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I know, I know that Draymond has been playing like he's in the streets where he can just play with physicality, but that's the Draymond we knew all throughout his career in Golden State, and to say that he must retire just because of that incident is just ridiculous. You're a Warrior fan like you said and you want a player who helped them to get 4 rings to retire already? He must be near past his prime, but he can still contribute to the team, especially with the defense.

Also, it isn't 5 days, but 5 games where he will be losing around ~$760,000, and he might have additional fines in the future. I believe that Coach Kerr will just speak with him, and they've been together for a long time. I'm sure that Green will come back way better than how he played in the last 3 games.

The question is who will be the center of the Lakers if Davis is traded? Hayes and Wood look like they aren't helping the team that much. Showing interest doesn't mean that it will push through at least in my perspective. Just imagine the Lakers without any reliable starting center. On the other hand though, they are trying to get the player who they didn't give the money that he needs, and that's Caruso. Overall, I don't see this happening just because of the fact that the Lakers will not have a center if they will trade Davis, but maybe they can still get either 1 of the three using other role players plus draft picks.

That will be a blockbuster trade if that happens in the future. And I do agree that the Lakers are going to win in this one if they dump Anthony Davis + some other players in order to get back Caruso to the Lakers again, and then add to that DeRozan and Lavine.

I'm just imaging though what will be the package that the Lakers will include with Davis, for sure a lot of them just to get the superstars in DeRozan and Lavine.

And Davis being prone to injuries, I think this could be a good excuse for the Lakers to dump him for good. And I think Davis has done enough for the Lakers, winning a ring and he might be thinking of going out as well and Bulls could be a good team for him.

I agree with both of you. The inconsistency is there right now and the Bulls commentators are just making it look good using their sweet words during home games. It's a waste that this should be one of the strong teams if only Lonzo was there to facilitate the game for them.
Actually, the rebuilding should've been done before the season started, now it's too late they may have a hard time looking for prospects that would be tempted to break their team in exchange for one of their players.
I think it can be done by doing it one by one and just looking for draft pick trades. Rebuild, like they say.
Regarding Vucevic, he is still playing on an average level and it's difficult to find a center who can shoot distance shots so he can be easily traded for something good.
It's just not working for the Bulls anymore and as I watch them in their previous games I still don't feel that vibe of chemistry like there's a wall that is separating them from each other.

Yeah, they need to improve first but it seems that they're proving themselves last year was a good start and all they need is to maintain the current roster and if they can add more, that's much better. Adding with more fine and someone who's got more experience during crucial times like in the playoffs. What they did last season was actually good because was it the first time again that they're back at playoffs?

I've seen this but if they're going to take any from those, it's best if they'll take DeMar DeRozan. I think that everyone is going to agree with that. But anyway, we've got different thoughts on who's going to be better with them and it's them that's going to decide, so let's see the development on who's going to be taken if this interest becomes reality.

Probably with his ego, much better if LAC rebuilds or shows interest of trading him off with someone from the other team just to get rid off him. Because if this continues, the problem might be bigger and they'll not be able to reach playoffs.

In a scenario where Lakers gave the farm, like all the picks they could possibly could give, AD and maybe some role players, and get Derozan, Caruso and Lavine, along with Lebron, I do not care who else they have left in that team, that four players alone would be more than enough to be a title contender EASILY. I am not saying they will, we all know that it would be very tough deal, Lakers could easily just trade away some players to get picks from third team, they could just knock on OKC's door, they have like 30+ picks in the next 7 years, they could just grap a few of them, OKC could definitely share some of it, and Lakers could use those along with their own picks they have and AD and role players, its not impossible, and one final push for Lebrons final ring would be possible. If not, this current team is barely playoff levels, would not win a title at all.

The Lakers are “showing interest” in Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, & Alex Caruso. Basically, the Lakers are going to try all they can to get a win out of the Bulls need for a rebuild. With Anthony Davis having shown interest in going to Chicago, something big could be happening with this. Getting Zach LaVine and Caruso while dumping Anthony Davis would be a huge win for them in my book.

Agreed I think every team that has Harden leave is almost a net positive for them.  Harden is good no doubt but he isn't a type of player that makes his team better.  Looks like his teammates get disinterested when he is on the court.  Think something is off with his ego and/or personality which makes it not work on the court.

Yeah I hear ya and totally agree.  Half the problem is Bulls ownership whom typically had a hard time making proper decisions.  Bt yeah at this point, sell/trade the stud veterans which includes of course Lavine as well as DeRozan.  Not to mention Vuc is a solid Center and I'm sure a few teams would be interested in his services.  I don't see any reason to keep him around.

Ball is a lost cause.  I mean talk about miserable luck, we never really god to see him play fully healthy along with the rest of the team.  Not say that would have been a championship team, but it would have been a lot more exciting.

Nah, they are good without Harden, Maxey is taking Harden's place now, it's that the Boston Celtics has the best duo in the NBA right now, Tatum and Brown, and they are very consistent this season.

For the Lakers, it's a up and down game against the Kings. The biggest issue with the team right now is that they simply allow their opponents to take a big lead and they have a hard time trying to catch up. Another team that is also inconsistent and I doubt that they are a championship caliber in the West right now. Kings kryptonite is the Warriors, but if the Warriors can't get their act together maybe if they play the Kings in the playoff, it will be a different story.

I wouldn't say that they are a underrated team, they also ousted the Warriors in last year's playoff and they have a good record as well last year. But now when they are healthy plus with the experience they gain from the last season, they are really coming very hard and beating great teams.

But I do agree, if there is a team from California right now, it's the Kings which is the best.

@ YuginKadoya - maybe you can call it chemistry issues with the Bulls, they they still have the core of Lavine, deRozan, Caruso and Vucevic, so they are still intact. But there might be internal problems that we might not be aware of and that's why this trade rumor surfaces.

I'm glad to see Lebron James doing a triple double at his age but I'm really sad to see how Lakers are playing so far during this season and if they don't wake up soon enough , I'm afraid we will witness another failed season for them where they barely made play offs.

Also Celtics kinda showed us that 76ers are not what they look like and as soon as they block Embiid , there is nowhere left to actually carry the game for them and now I do think that maybe they made a mistake letting Harden go ? could be.

For sure if Giannis Antetokounmpo is in the court Damian Lillard is having trouble getting his rhythm this is due to the Milwaukee Bucks is not used to getting their main score if it is Lillard or Antetokounmpo, or Damian Lillard can not see his position if Antetokounmpo was on the court playing aswell but for sure this kind of problem will be easily fixed if the team's Chemistry will likely improve,

But in the last game of the Milwaukee Bucks against the Toronto Raptors yesterday Giannis Antetokounmpo did not play for the Milwaukee Bucks which is why the team then made Damian Lillard their main scoring player while Malik Beasley was the back up scorer for the team and it went well for sure,


For sure they are a team that has played the game and was doing well regardless of who is playing for the team, for sure the Chicago Bulls is a great team right now regardless of who is their opponent, and just like the Milwaukee Bucks and the Los Angeles Clippers problem because of the newer players they are having Chemistry issues for sure if they can cut off a player on the team they will then get the chemistry for the team fixed a lot faster and will also cut of the money needed for the team if they will trade out Zach LaVine

This roster is good, but to think that they'll win a championship, I think that's too early to expect. I mean, they need to improve their ranking first in the playoffs. Last time, they had a first-round exit, if I'm not mistaken. So maybe one step at a time, this time their target could be getting to the WCF or just the Semis first.

Woah, that's a lot and yeah that's already a hit on him and if he's going to feel that much then he'd be careful with the next time he reacts with situations like that.

They've been consistent and I like this team now. Last season, they ended up greatly, and for sure they're going to end up better this time. Just more chemistry and this team is going to be liked and noticed by most NBA fans. Will this roster that they now have is going to be the roster that they'll win their 2nd NBA championship? Because the last one that they have was from 1951.

They beat a complete LA Lakers team; they seem to have really improved. I'm proud of this team because the assistant coach is our very own Jimmy Alapag, so the success of this team is also a success for his career.

It's really different in the playoffs, though, but the Sac Kings have been in the playoffs, played against the defending champion last playoffs, and gave them a good series. So, I guess they are really for real.


I haven't come across that kind of odds, though. What I know is the odds on the total wins this season (under/over) and the championship odds.

Actually make that 6.

Here are the 6 teams that beat them;
1- Lakers
2- Knicks
3-Nets
4-Dallas
5-Memphis
6-Denver.


If they didn't struggle, that rumor would not have come out. But if this problem continues to persist, the Clippers' management will be forced to trade Harden. They were a decent team before he arrived, and they just want to get back to normal so they still have a chance to be in the playoffs, even if their standing is not that good.

I love it, a silent underrated team. They're now in a 4 straight win and they just beat the Lakers for the second time this season. What made it better is they won in LA.

Hopefully, they learned a lot last season and will do better in the coming playoff games. But I am not underestimating the Warriors, the Lakers, and the Clippers since these teams are too well experienced. The regular season is far from playoff games where every team is willing to do everything to get a win.

But if there's a betting odd on which California teams do better in the regular season, I am also taking the Kings over the other 3 teams.

It's in deniable that he brings disaster after being traded to Clippers,
5 losing streaks is something that affects him personally, and yes, chances that it may be true that he wanted to go out might be possible.

Though without any official statement that kind of information can't be validated, a rumor will stay as it is without any valid updates regarding that statement.

They need to figure things out as a team, from the coaching staff up to all the players that are involved to fix the problem and start winning games.

I guess the penalty does seem a little bigger when you look at how much money he makes per game. According to Woj, Draymond Green is going to lose more than 3 quarters of a million dollars due to this suspension. I don’t care who you are, that’s not peanuts. I still think it should have been worse, but I’m glad it will sting a bit.

Link to the post here: https://x.com/wojespn/status/1724962628252954930

I remember something happened in that game at the last minute of it.
Westbrook was subbed out and Harden came in, and then the commentators said something about, "Do they trust Harden more than Westbrook at those crucial times?". Something like that.
I think that simple statement made a great impact on whoever heard it. There's also a time when Westbrook was subbed for Harden again at the early stage of the game. I think this is going to be a locker room issue as there's really no way Coach Ty Lue could create a better rotation for all the stars that he is handling now.
Westbrook is probably feeling bad, he already accepted a low salary for a chance to win, and the very least they could do is give him the minutes.
Five-game losses with Harden recording most of it 20+ minutes and some 30+ minutes, more than WB. Maybe Westbrook is not happy that he sacrificed his salary for nothing.
About the rumor, there is no official news about it. Let's wait.