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November 18, 2023, 07:40:11 AM
I am curious about this NBA In-Season Tournament. Is this something significant? Are there 2 championships each year in the NBA right now? I don't get the essence of it since all the participating teams are just the same teams so what makes this necessary when the playoffs are already exciting to watch?'

I reckon you should take a peek at the rules yourself. Here's the link: https://www.nba.com/news/in-season-tournament-101

Honestly, I didn't dig deep into this in-season tournament stuff. Wasn't too keen on it, you know? I'm all about enjoying the action and expecting the same old format, like the playoffs leading to the championship.

Seems like the NBA is trying to do the same in European soccer leagues where the teams are playing not just in a single league but in some other tournaments and the most coveted Champions League. The big difference however is the European teams are playing teams from other leagues in the other tournaments they are joining or qualifying for.

Whatever they were thinking when they came up with this tournament, I don't think it's winning over the fans. We're used to the old format as it's easy to understand and that gets us excited. Like in the Jazz vs. Suns game, one of the announcers mentioned the Lakers being 3-0 during the in-season tournament, but honestly, I couldn't care less, LOL.
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November 18, 2023, 07:36:30 AM
^^ The Los Angeles Clippers won, all because of Westbrook giving up the starting role. But if James Harden were absent, this would have been a more dominating win just like before. Ty Lue's offensive game plan was to play Paul George for a lot of minutes, let him force a lot of shots—dribble, dribble, and shoot. 40 mins for PG 13 vs Rockets. That's messing up the gameplays.

Respect and salute to Westbrook 🫡, who requested to be on the bench.

Yeah, I guess WB saw something that might help them win at least, and that's what really happens here, although I would say that if not for Harden making a three or Kawhi making a pass, it could be watching OT game. I thought that Kawhi is going to shoot it, but he was defended and so he pass it to the next guy which is Harden. And we all know that Harden can make 3 and get a contact. And it was mentioned that he leads the league with 4 point play and that's why happen here. At least for Clippers fans, it's good that they finally get a W but it was not that easy against a very improved Houston Rockets team.
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November 18, 2023, 07:17:36 AM
I am curious about this NBA In-Season Tournament. Is this something significant? Are there 2 championships each year in the NBA right now? I don't get the essence of it since all the participating teams are just the same teams so what makes this necessary when the playoffs are already exciting to watch?

Seems like the NBA is trying to do the same in European soccer leagues where the teams are playing not just in a single league but in some other tournaments and the most coveted Champions League. The big difference however is the European teams are playing teams from other leagues in the other tournaments they are joining or qualifying for.
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November 18, 2023, 05:56:10 AM
^^ The Los Angeles Clippers won, all because of Westbrook giving up the starting role. But if James Harden were absent, this would have been a more dominating win just like before. Ty Lue's offensive game plan was to play Paul George for a lot of minutes, let him force a lot of shots—dribble, dribble, and shoot. 40 mins for PG 13 vs Rockets. That's messing up the gameplays.

Respect and salute to Westbrook 🫡, who requested to be on the bench.
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November 18, 2023, 05:33:17 AM
Rockets won 6 in a row and Clippers lost 6 in a row. Most people expect Rockets to win but I thought the exact opposite. This must be the game that both streaks are over. Rockets were close to win the game but Harden said the last word. He played like his Rockets days against Rockets ironically.
This Clippers should be in higher places, since that bad streak is over I believe they'll climb up fast. They promise so much with that roster. Harden is back to normal, Westbrook accepted his bench role, with Kawhi and George they should be in top 5 in the West.

I’m glad the Clippers finally won a game with James Harden on the roster. I was beginning to get embarrassed for them. The highlight of the night for me was definitely watching Russell Westbrook try to posterize Dillon Brooks. All Brooks could do was foul and hope he doesn’t end up on a poster. Even though Russ missed the dunk, I’m guessing it is still going to make an amazing poster. 
I guess the confidence in the Clippers roster with Harden is now starting to come back after that and-one three-point shot that made them end their losing streak. On the other hand, the Rockets ended their winning streak at 6 which is a pretty good thing already knowing how they played last season.

TBH, I don't want to highlight James Harden's three-point shot. What I want to highlight is the adjustment made by Russell Westbrook. I mean just imagine him going to the coaching staff saying that he will come off the bench. Well, he has experienced it already when the Clippers gave him another chance, and if this is the way for them to be better in their future games, he will gladly stay and play off the bench. I believe that the adjustment made them better at least just on that game.

Your highlight of the night was Westbrook trying to posterize Brooks. Mine is when 2 Rockets players posterized Daniel Theis on his debut game Cheesy. It's like "Welcome to your new team. Here's a posterized dunk for you." Cheesy Feel sorry for him.
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November 18, 2023, 05:11:49 AM
Rockets won 6 in a row and Clippers lost 6 in a row. Most people expect Rockets to win but I thought the exact opposite. This must be the game that both streaks are over. Rockets were close to win the game but Harden said the last word. He played like his Rockets days against Rockets ironically.
This Clippers should be in higher places, since that bad streak is over I believe they'll climb up fast. They promise so much with that roster. Harden is back to normal, Westbrook accepted his bench role, with Kawhi and George they should be in top 5 in the West.

Glad they won since its so bad for them to stretch up there losing streak since for sure this will create a lot of trouble on their roster. What I really like about what's happening there is Westbrook is now willing to cooperate with his teammate and he really show that he want to win that's why he suggest then agree to play at the bench since they really need that. Hopefully can also accept that if he will be called to play at the bench if there's roster adjustment will happen depends on their opponent roster since if they are willing to cooperate what's best for their team then for sure they can easily climb up to the top knowing how high caliber they are and they only need a good chemistry to work together.

Clippers should supposed to be in higher place since they have 4 players that can score 20+ to 30+ pts in a game but they just need to have chemistry together.

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November 18, 2023, 03:27:20 AM
Watching this In-season tournament deal right now...just feel really odd.  Watching my Chicago Bulls facing off against the Orlando Magic.  The court is painted all red which is actually kind of cool.  


As for me, the color of the court looks too bright, and I personally don't like it because it distracts from the performance of the teams. I don't know if the players are comfortable playing on such a court and if it somehow affects their performance in general, but I think the fans, especially in the upper rows, are unlikely to appreciate this coloring of the court.
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November 18, 2023, 02:54:49 AM
Rockets won 6 in a row and Clippers lost 6 in a row. Most people expect Rockets to win but I thought the exact opposite. This must be the game that both streaks are over. Rockets were close to win the game but Harden said the last word. He played like his Rockets days against Rockets ironically.
This Clippers should be in higher places, since that bad streak is over I believe they'll climb up fast. They promise so much with that roster. Harden is back to normal, Westbrook accepted his bench role, with Kawhi and George they should be in top 5 in the West.

I’m glad the Clippers finally won a game with James Harden on the roster. I was beginning to get embarrassed for them. The highlight of the night for me was definitely watching Russell Westbrook try to posterize Dillon Brooks. All Brooks could do was foul and hope he doesn’t end up on a poster. Even though Russ missed the dunk, I’m guessing it is still going to make an amazing poster. 
It was a while ending, I thought that the Clippers is going to lose this one again as the Rockets build a 5 point lead with 2 minutes to go. But the Clippers was able to pull some stops and then they have 2 miscues from the young Jalen Green.

And then Harden, who make a 3 plus a foul when the score is tied at 100 each. So I guess this is redeem time for him, as he was able to make a 4 point play to give them that lead for good and then VanFleet misses a 3. At least they have broken the curse already, but still though, we need to look for more games to see if this Clippers team has want it takes to become a solid contender in the West.
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November 18, 2023, 02:36:02 AM
Rockets won 6 in a row and Clippers lost 6 in a row. Most people expect Rockets to win but I thought the exact opposite. This must be the game that both streaks are over. Rockets were close to win the game but Harden said the last word. He played like his Rockets days against Rockets ironically.
This Clippers should be in higher places, since that bad streak is over I believe they'll climb up fast. They promise so much with that roster. Harden is back to normal, Westbrook accepted his bench role, with Kawhi and George they should be in top 5 in the West.

I’m glad the Clippers finally won a game with James Harden on the roster. I was beginning to get embarrassed for them. The highlight of the night for me was definitely watching Russell Westbrook try to posterize Dillon Brooks. All Brooks could do was foul and hope he doesn’t end up on a poster. Even though Russ missed the dunk, I’m guessing it is still going to make an amazing poster. 
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November 18, 2023, 02:18:12 AM
Rockets won 6 in a row and Clippers lost 6 in a row. Most people expect Rockets to win but I thought the exact opposite. This must be the game that both streaks are over. Rockets were close to win the game but Harden said the last word. He played like his Rockets days against Rockets ironically.
This Clippers should be in higher places, since that bad streak is over I believe they'll climb up fast. They promise so much with that roster. Harden is back to normal, Westbrook accepted his bench role, with Kawhi and George they should be in top 5 in the West.
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November 17, 2023, 09:20:20 PM
Watching this In-season tournament deal right now...just feel really odd.  Watching my Chicago Bulls facing off against the Orlando Magic.  The court is painted all red which is actually kind of cool. 

Might be one of the final games we see DeRozan, Vuc, Lavine and potentially others, so I'm going to try and enjoy it..but it is truly time to move on and they all could make for VERY nice fill in pieces elsewhere. Anti-up boys and girls, give my bulls some young talent!  Cheesy


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November 17, 2023, 08:35:44 PM
Caruso is definitely a must, it will help them, but in that case they are keeping AD, I mean they could just give some other players and get Caruso, that's not really impossible. They probably do not have any picks left, but that's why I said get some picks from OKC, or any other team really, if Chicago doesn't want players, Lakers could give the players to OKC and get picks and give that, that would still work, plus AD and you got yourself a whole team. I do agree that the ywon't get all three, and Derozan is getting older, so Lavine and Caruso together could be even better, but just one of these three doesn't seem like it would turn them into a title team, it would just make them slightly better, all three, or even two would make them quite strong. I really hope to see some big changes in the league, we haven't seen that much change aside from maybe Dame, that was the only one, and I am not sure how well that will go.
If the Lakers will pursue to make a trade with the Lakers, the best 2 players that they can get are Caruso and Lavine.

I don't know how they will make it without Davis being included in the trade package. Trading some role players plus some draft picks maybe, or include a 3rd team with the trade maybe. One thing's for sure though and that's LaVine is on the trading list already, and both already agreed on it. Getting LaVine on the team will boost them offensively because as of this moment, there is no player who's consistent offensively aside from Lebron. It's like him carrying the whole team "AGAIN" and he's f-ing tired of it already. If he will be using his Le-GM skills, he will do everything to get Caruso, and maybe LaVine.

As for the big changes, it already happened during the off-season, and at the start of the season, and that's the Dame and Harden trade. The next one will be at mid-season where we will see teams trading the players who aren't fit for their team. Speaking of not fit for their team, I remember a user here who is arguing that Jordan Poole will become an all-star, and might be a scoring champ. He's -16 on offense when he's on the court, and -15.5 in defense with a total combined of -31.5 (just saw it on YouTube). He can't handle the hype, he's trash, and he's all trash talk. He's becoming the next Dillon Brooks now. Cheesy
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November 17, 2023, 08:21:02 PM
Caruso is definitely a must, it will help them, but in that case they are keeping AD, I mean they could just give some other players and get Caruso, that's not really impossible. They probably do not have any picks left, but that's why I said get some picks from OKC, or any other team really, if Chicago doesn't want players, Lakers could give the players to OKC and get picks and give that, that would still work, plus AD and you got yourself a whole team. I do agree that the ywon't get all three, and Derozan is getting older, so Lavine and Caruso together could be even better, but just one of these three doesn't seem like it would turn them into a title team, it would just make them slightly better, all three, or even two would make them quite strong. I really hope to see some big changes in the league, we haven't seen that much change aside from maybe Dame, that was the only one, and I am not sure how well that will go.
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November 17, 2023, 08:17:25 PM
In a scenario where Lakers gave the farm, like all the picks they could possibly could give, AD and maybe some role players, and get Derozan, Caruso and Lavine, along with Lebron, I do not care who else they have left in that team, that four players alone would be more than enough to be a title contender EASILY. I am not saying they will, we all know that it would be very tough deal, Lakers could easily just trade away some players to get picks from third team, they could just knock on OKC's door, they have like 30+ picks in the next 7 years, they could just grap a few of them, OKC could definitely share some of it, and Lakers could use those along with their own picks they have and AD and role players, its not impossible, and one final push for Lebrons final ring would be possible. If not, this current team is barely playoff levels, would not win a title at all.

LaVine and even Derozan will cost some first-round draft picks which the Lakers do not have. AD in the last few years has been showing signs of being injury-prone, so it'll be very costly in terms of assets to trade him with those Chicago players.

OKC has a lot of future picks but I doubt they'll give up even a single first-round draft at the moment without receiving something worth it. OKC is getting better and it seems they are a serious playoffs team in the next few years. So they might only start trading their future first-round picks when some of its young players mature a bit. Or when someone in their starting position isn't compatible with the rest of the players.

DO the Lakers have any first round picks left? I mean they gave away a lot in the previous years. Maybe the next picks the have are in like 5 years or something.
I don't think they really need Lavine, they are ok at scoring, what they need is support from the bench and some defense. Lavine won't change that.
Getting Caruso back would be a good move for example. He is a solid defends, can be a spark on offense and already have a good connection to some players of the team.
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November 17, 2023, 06:57:03 PM
Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

They should be thankful because this is just the start of the season and they can still review and fix where they have gone wrong if they cannot win against some easy teams without Curry, then it would be hard for them to gather as many wins without exhausting their star players whenever they play and this will result in a high chance of injuries. They need to change their strategies obviously and I'm sure they will be able to develop some new hope to make their team a great competitor once again.

They had a promising start, and I thought they were for real, especially with CP3 on board and the trade involving Poole. However, it seems to be messing up the Wizards' chemistry now. Just like what we witnessed last season, their persistent lack of inside presence has been a problem. They're getting dominated inside, and to make it worse, their 3-point shooting has dropped significantly.

As we can see, the Warriors are now only rank number 7 in 3 point percentage.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-rate
Of course it is understandable even if the biggest stars have a bad game but Klay was desperately needed by his team and he just didn't perform at all. He should have stepped up more when he was needed. I don't expect Warriors can accomplish anything this season. Then maybe they will have a rebuilding(and get rid of Draymond hopefully). Warriors was a blast to witness in this last decade but every good thing needs to come to an end. Especially after seeing Poole also not doing so good(I know he was traded but still), I feel like time for Warriors is over. Unless something miraculous comes from Curry, I don't expect them to be good at all.

Maybe we can safely say that small ball era is already end since to many teams already find solution on how to defeat them so they need to adjust with current trend like getting big man who can defend on paint and can shoot 3s. If they continue to insist that small ball still working for them then for sure that they encounter huge defeat just like what's happening on their past games.

And they reall need Klay also Wiggins to step up since Warriors need offensive threat on rainbow country if Steph is out since if they can't do for sure they will be badly beaten by big guys on court since for sure they might struggle to penetrate inside.
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November 17, 2023, 06:12:11 PM
Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

They should be thankful because this is just the start of the season and they can still review and fix where they have gone wrong if they cannot win against some easy teams without Curry, then it would be hard for them to gather as many wins without exhausting their star players whenever they play and this will result in a high chance of injuries. They need to change their strategies obviously and I'm sure they will be able to develop some new hope to make their team a great competitor once again.

They had a promising start, and I thought they were for real, especially with CP3 on board and the trade involving Poole. However, it seems to be messing up the Wizards' chemistry now. Just like what we witnessed last season, their persistent lack of inside presence has been a problem. They're getting dominated inside, and to make it worse, their 3-point shooting has dropped significantly.

As we can see, the Warriors are now only rank number 7 in 3 point percentage.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-rate
Of course it is understandable even if the biggest stars have a bad game but Klay was desperately needed by his team and he just didn't perform at all. He should have stepped up more when he was needed. I don't expect Warriors can accomplish anything this season. Then maybe they will have a rebuilding(and get rid of Draymond hopefully). Warriors was a blast to witness in this last decade but every good thing needs to come to an end. Especially after seeing Poole also not doing so good(I know he was traded but still), I feel like time for Warriors is over. Unless something miraculous comes from Curry, I don't expect them to be good at all.
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November 17, 2023, 04:40:17 PM
In a scenario where Lakers gave the farm, like all the picks they could possibly could give, AD and maybe some role players, and get Derozan, Caruso and Lavine, along with Lebron, I do not care who else they have left in that team, that four players alone would be more than enough to be a title contender EASILY. I am not saying they will, we all know that it would be very tough deal, Lakers could easily just trade away some players to get picks from third team, they could just knock on OKC's door, they have like 30+ picks in the next 7 years, they could just grap a few of them, OKC could definitely share some of it, and Lakers could use those along with their own picks they have and AD and role players, its not impossible, and one final push for Lebrons final ring would be possible. If not, this current team is barely playoff levels, would not win a title at all.

LaVine and even Derozan will cost some first-round draft picks which the Lakers do not have. AD in the last few years has been showing signs of being injury-prone, so it'll be very costly in terms of assets to trade him with those Chicago players.

Yeah, I think it will cost more than just a player swap for the Lakers, and teams right now are also very intelligent to request first round picks if they are going to trade some of their superstars in this case Lavine and DeRozan.

OKC has a lot of future picks but I doubt they'll give up even a single first-round draft at the moment without receiving something worth it. OKC is getting better and it seems they are a serious playoffs team in the next few years. So they might only start trading their future first-round picks when some of its young players mature a bit. Or when someone in their starting position isn't compatible with the rest of the players.

That's their benefits when they have traded the likes of WB before and then some with CP3 and Paul George as well. And it seems that it has been paying off already, they have good picks recently and the team looks solid this season. They will have to just get the needed experience to go the playoffs to make this young player hardened and become tough players.
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November 17, 2023, 03:56:30 PM
Some interesting games on tonight all in season playoff games.  Interested to see how all this plays out.  As a knicks fan unsure how they proceed since they already lost to the Bucks.  I guess if they run it out and Bucks lose a couple or they are a top wild card they can make it?

For the wild card only the top two none group winning teams make it out.  What happens if 3 teams end up with the same record?  Since there isn't head to head how do they put two forward?
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November 17, 2023, 03:22:10 PM
Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.
That's why they need to find a solution for their team since if GSW will heavily rely on Curry then they will be in huge trouble for more games if Steph is out of the game. They already have those shooters so they should maximize this guy and make them play hard so that once Steph is out they have other guys to step up for them.

They are having a good start earlier but suddenly they fall short and I think they are losing some morale for current happening on their team.

I really thought earlier that they are fine even if Steph is out but SGA and the rest of the gang prove that they are not so easy and they give a huge problem to more stronger team then show how good their current roster this season.
I feel like in normal situations Klay will not play this badly, this was one of those worst games of my life type of situations for him and normally he will play much better than this. OKC got to have this win because Klay played terribly, they needed GSW to have curry out, draymond out and klay missing bunch of shots all at the same game to get this win, if GSW was full squad and playing alright? They would get an easy win without a doubt.

I think it is important to remember that Curry has always been the most important piece of this team, they got CP3 to make sure that their second unit was good enough, now using him as started because Curry is missing, when the time comes and they are all 100% healthy, they will be a great team.
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November 17, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

Unless Stephen Curry is there, I think GSW is not a good team. The team has already been able to achieve success for years thanks to his energy, but now this situation seems to be over. Klay Thompson couldn't score any points, and Wiggins couldn't provide enough support. It was an easy game for OKC, they are playing well this season Smiley
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