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In a scenario where Lakers gave the farm, like all the picks they could possibly could give, AD and maybe some role players, and get Derozan, Caruso and Lavine, along with Lebron, I do not care who else they have left in that team, that four players alone would be more than enough to be a title contender EASILY. I am not saying they will, we all know that it would be very tough deal, Lakers could easily just trade away some players to get picks from third team, they could just knock on OKC's door, they have like 30+ picks in the next 7 years, they could just grap a few of them, OKC could definitely share some of it, and Lakers could use those along with their own picks they have and AD and role players, its not impossible, and one final push for Lebrons final ring would be possible. If not, this current team is barely playoff levels, would not win a title at all.

LaVine and even Derozan will cost some first-round draft picks which the Lakers do not have. AD in the last few years has been showing signs of being injury-prone, so it'll be very costly in terms of assets to trade him with those Chicago players.

OKC has a lot of future picks but I doubt they'll give up even a single first-round draft at the moment without receiving something worth it. OKC is getting better and it seems they are a serious playoffs team in the next few years. So they might only start trading their future first-round picks when some of its young players mature a bit. Or when someone in their starting position isn't compatible with the rest of the players.

I agree with you, I think OKC will keep their squad and will continue developing their young core
SGA as alpha and the rest will give him the support that he needs to continue being competitive.

Just allow them to grow together and hopefully they will learn from the mistakes that they made before, keeping the young core
and making sure to established trust and good companionship.

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NBA fines Paul George $35K for criticizing refs after Clippers' 6th straight loss
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We heard this kind of cry before and it came from Chris Paul back when he was a Clipper too but I never heard him fined with such an amount even if he talks.

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"I thought we played great," George said. "It's tough, the adversity of playing against the extra three [officials]. I thought they were awful. But, [against the] defending champs, we got to play better. There's a lot to be positive about. I'm not one for moral victories, but I thought we showed more of a sign of a team tonight that's close to getting it over the hump."

C'mon, that's just emotion pouring especially after a 6th streak loss.
This is the only time I heard PG13 talk like that and I doubt he meant it in a bad way. He has a point but the referees took it back by not calling that traveling that was too obvious and even the fans know that their hands are signing a traveling violation.
This is how referees do their work, if they miss one call on one end then they will try to get it back on the other end. I guess the NBA just wants to protect the official too and what he said might ruin their reputation so a fine must be done against PG13 just to make it straight.

I actually lost my bet there because of that. If the refs called it a travel then I might have covered my spreads for the Nuggets.

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Quote from: EFS on November 16, 2023, 11:50:59 PM

Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

Warriors are in big trouble now, they could not pull a come back and OKC is still leading the game at the end of 3rd quarter. I don't think this undermanned team would be able to have a fourt quarter run to beat the OKC, you maybe right, OKC might win by 20+ points here. Kuminga is unexpectedly leading the team, what happened to Klay Thompson?

Yet Warriors manage to denied the 20+ score spread against them which many bettor might be upset with this result. I'm surprised that Warriors suffer with only this kind deficit against hype OKC while they are only playing with bench players and out of tune Thompson, CP3 and Wiggins. Warriors has no defense and offense with this kind of line-up.

They need Thompson to step up badly since he is the only one capable on shooting on the perimeter accurately when he is hot just like before.

We just hope he'll get back to his old form, but this season hasn't been going well for him. Klay Thompson is averaging 13.8 points per game, significantly lower than last season's 21.9. It seems like he has lost confidence in shooting, and I don't know what happened to him. Perhaps the side effects of sitting out a whole season due to his injury are affecting him now. It's not the best timing for him, considering he'll become an unrestricted free agent next year. So, he really needs an impressive season this year to secure a good contract.

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 17, 2023, 12:56:28 AM

Quote from: EFS on November 16, 2023, 11:50:59 PM

Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

Warriors are in big trouble now, they could not pull a come back and OKC is still leading the game at the end of 3rd quarter. I don't think this undermanned team would be able to have a fourt quarter run to beat the OKC, you maybe right, OKC might win by 20+ points here. Kuminga is unexpectedly leading the team, what happened to Klay Thompson?

Yet Warriors manage to denied the 20+ score spread against them which many bettor might be upset with this result. I'm surprised that Warriors suffer with only this kind deficit against hype OKC while they are only playing with bench players and out of tune Thompson, CP3 and Wiggins. Warriors has no defense and offense with this kind of line-up.

They need Thompson to step up badly since he is the only one capable on shooting on the perimeter accurately when he is hot just like before.

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Quote from: EFS on November 16, 2023, 11:50:59 PM

Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

They should be thankful because this is just the start of the season and they can still review and fix where they have gone wrong if they cannot win against some easy teams without Curry, then it would be hard for them to gather as many wins without exhausting their star players whenever they play and this will result in a high chance of injuries. They need to change their strategies obviously and I'm sure they will be able to develop some new hope to make their team a great competitor once again.

They had a promising start, and I thought they were for real, especially with CP3 on board and the trade involving Poole. However, it seems to be messing up the Wizards' chemistry now. Just like what we witnessed last season, their persistent lack of inside presence has been a problem. They're getting dominated inside, and to make it worse, their 3-point shooting has dropped significantly.

As we can see, the Warriors are now only rank number 7 in 3 point percentage.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-rate

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on November 16, 2023, 06:07:02 PM

In a scenario where Lakers gave the farm, like all the picks they could possibly could give, AD and maybe some role players, and get Derozan, Caruso and Lavine, along with Lebron, I do not care who else they have left in that team, that four players alone would be more than enough to be a title contender EASILY. I am not saying they will, we all know that it would be very tough deal, Lakers could easily just trade away some players to get picks from third team, they could just knock on OKC's door, they have like 30+ picks in the next 7 years, they could just grap a few of them, OKC could definitely share some of it, and Lakers could use those along with their own picks they have and AD and role players, its not impossible, and one final push for Lebrons final ring would be possible. If not, this current team is barely playoff levels, would not win a title at all.

LaVine and even Derozan will cost some first-round draft picks which the Lakers do not have. AD in the last few years has been showing signs of being injury-prone, so it'll be very costly in terms of assets to trade him with those Chicago players.

OKC has a lot of future picks but I doubt they'll give up even a single first-round draft at the moment without receiving something worth it. OKC is getting better and it seems they are a serious playoffs team in the next few years. So they might only start trading their future first-round picks when some of its young players mature a bit. Or when someone in their starting position isn't compatible with the rest of the players.

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Quote from: EFS on November 16, 2023, 11:50:59 PM

Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

They should be thankful because this is just the start of the season and they can still review and fix where they have gone wrong if they cannot win against some easy teams without Curry, then it would be hard for them to gather as many wins without exhausting their star players whenever they play and this will result in a high chance of injuries. They need to change their strategies obviously and I'm sure they will be able to develop some new hope to make their team a great competitor once again.

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Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

That's why they need to find a solution for their team since if GSW will heavily rely on Curry then they will be in huge trouble for more games if Steph is out of the game. They already have those shooters so they should maximize this guy and make them play hard so that once Steph is out they have other guys to step up for them.

They are having a good start earlier but suddenly they fall short and I think they are losing some morale for current happening on their team.

I really thought earlier that they are fine even if Steph is out but SGA and the rest of the gang prove that they are not so easy and they give a huge problem to more stronger team then show how good their current roster this season.

Yes, same here I thought that the Warriors even as underdog have a big chance to win this game at home because they have still have the other half of the Splash Brothers. But it seems that Klay doesn't have a good start of the season. And we know that his contract is up, so he better produce big numbers so that the Warriors will have to retain him, otherwise, their championship core might break and this could be his last season if he doesn't have that numbers that they are expecting of him.

Steve Kerr will have to make a lot of adjustments right now if they will have a lot of players that is going to be in the injury list. There's so much hype with them when they got rid of Poole and get CP3, however, we can't see the injuries on Curry and Thompson's dismal performance.

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Quote from: EFS on November 16, 2023, 11:50:59 PM

Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

That's why they need to find a solution for their team since if GSW will heavily rely on Curry then they will be in huge trouble for more games if Steph is out of the game. They already have those shooters so they should maximize this guy and make them play hard so that once Steph is out they have other guys to step up for them.

They are having a good start earlier but suddenly they fall short and I think they are losing some morale for current happening on their team.

I really thought earlier that they are fine even if Steph is out but SGA and the rest of the gang prove that they are not so easy and they give a huge problem to more stronger team then show how good their current roster this season.

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The Lakers are “showing interest” in Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, & Alex Caruso. Basically, the Lakers are going to try all they can to get a win out of the Bulls need for a rebuild. With Anthony Davis having shown interest in going to Chicago, something big could be happening with this. Getting Zach LaVine and Caruso while dumping Anthony Davis would be a huge win for them in my book.

Davis' systematic injuries are certainly his big drawback and a problem for both the Lakers and Davis himself. By the way, in the game against the Kings, he seemed to aggravate his injury again... However, I personally think the Lakers won't want to give him to the Bulls because trading a top PF for a PG and SG doesn't seem like the best idea. If such a trade were to happen, the Lakers would be too weak in the paint. That is not a good thing.

Agreed. They would most definitely need to sign another big man. I could see them sharing the role between multiple players and maybe bringing in someone like DeMarcus Cousins (who says he would still be a top 5 center in the league). I’m sure there are other potential free agents out there as well. What I’m reading seems to suggest they can get Zach Lavine for DeAngelo Russell & Rui, but I’m not sure I’d be willing to trade Rui.

I like how Rui able to fit himself with the Lakers. He was a major player in their last playoff run, stepping up big time on defense and really boosting the team's overall performance. Now, about D'lo, I'm all for trading the guy. He's been inconsistent enough, and let's face it, he tends to go missing in action during the playoffs. Maybe trading him could snag a solid big man who'd do great on the defense.

And....., talking about centers, the Warriors might want to think over grabbing one. That small ball lineup's cool and all, but they've gotta watch out for getting exploited. Time to improve that defense a bit, you know?

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 16, 2023, 05:59:58 PM

The Lakers are “showing interest” in Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, & Alex Caruso. Basically, the Lakers are going to try all they can to get a win out of the Bulls need for a rebuild. With Anthony Davis having shown interest in going to Chicago, something big could be happening with this. Getting Zach LaVine and Caruso while dumping Anthony Davis would be a huge win for them in my book.

Davis' systematic injuries are certainly his big drawback and a problem for both the Lakers and Davis himself. By the way, in the game against the Kings, he seemed to aggravate his injury again... However, I personally think the Lakers won't want to give him to the Bulls because trading a top PF for a PG and SG doesn't seem like the best idea. If such a trade were to happen, the Lakers would be too weak in the paint. That is not a good thing.

Agreed. They would most definitely need to sign another big man. I could see them sharing the role between multiple players and maybe bringing in someone like DeMarcus Cousins (who says he would still be a top 5 center in the league). I’m sure there are other potential free agents out there as well. What I’m reading seems to suggest they can get Zach Lavine for DeAngelo Russell & Rui, but I’m not sure I’d be willing to trade Rui.

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Quote from: EFS on November 16, 2023, 11:50:59 PM

Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

3rd quarter was all Warriors and they cut the lead by 7 but at the 4th quarter, they cannot find their offensive man. The Warriors are badly lacking something in their offensive area, this is the time when I want to see Wiggins stepping up his game big time but that didn't happen. Sure, his defense is good but what the Warriors need today is someone who can score for them.
3 minutes and they might lose this one with a double-digit lead by the Thunder.

How about the Miami Heat? That was some game in their home.
Jimmy Buckets playing like a monster.
But I enjoyed watching another dude more than him. Duncan Robinson. A lot of expectations from him and I am glad about Robinson's development. This is how he should be, he cannot just be a shooter, he must develop his defensive skills too so that he won't be benched again the next time they go to the playoffs. He is now attacking the paint, running off the ball, playmaking, and more. That's the value of a player with a $20 million dollar contract.
Whoever is training him, he is doing good and it's now being realized.
His shooting skills are now scarier because he has the attacking skills and can use them for hesitation moves, he is suddenly unpredictable, and without Tyler Herro, I bet he will shine more.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 16, 2023, 05:59:58 PM

The Lakers are “showing interest” in Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, & Alex Caruso. Basically, the Lakers are going to try all they can to get a win out of the Bulls need for a rebuild. With Anthony Davis having shown interest in going to Chicago, something big could be happening with this. Getting Zach LaVine and Caruso while dumping Anthony Davis would be a huge win for them in my book.

Davis' systematic injuries are certainly his big drawback and a problem for both the Lakers and Davis himself. By the way, in the game against the Kings, he seemed to aggravate his injury again... However, I personally think the Lakers won't want to give him to the Bulls because trading a top PF for a PG and SG doesn't seem like the best idea. If such a trade were to happen, the Lakers would be too weak in the paint. That is not a good thing.

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Quote from: EFS on November 16, 2023, 11:50:59 PM

Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

Warriors are in big trouble now, they could not pull a come back and OKC is still leading the game at the end of 3rd quarter. I don't think this undermanned team would be able to have a fourt quarter run to beat the OKC, you maybe right, OKC might win by 20+ points here. Kuminga is unexpectedly leading the team, what happened to Klay Thompson?

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Easy game for Thunder. Warriors without Curry is already tasteless, they don't have Green as well. Klay plays awful and Payton is injured now. Warriors can only score with Looney and Kuminga, which is quite contradictional for them. Warriors can't compete against Thunder with only points in the paint. SGA started good, I expect an early Thunder win by 20+ points margin.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 16, 2023, 10:18:56 PM

Maybe the package would look like AD + D'Lo + Prince or Rui and maybe future picks. So I do agree that the winner in this trade is the Lakers as what we have seen, AD is injury prone and very fragile that you felt nervous whenever he goes for a rebound and then land awkward and starting to grimace because of some pain he felt going down.

That's something Lakers need to work on, D'Lo and AD + Rui wow that's a huge package though AD is like what you mentioned, an injury prone
asset but if you will offer that trade proposal, plus a future pick not bad for the bulls I guess.

They are not working anymore, with the current squad they are not performing and risking to this kind of trade will help them if ever.

Let see if what future will bring us, especially for both bulls and Lakers fans if this blockbuster trades will take place.

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The Warriors have been up against OKC, and it hasn't been going too well. Without Draymond and Curry, it's a major challenge for them. Even with CP3, Kuminga, Wiggins, and Thompson, they're still undermanned. I think OKC might take the win, spelling another disappointing loss for the Warriors.

Just looking at the height difference, OKC has a significant advantage, making it tough for the Warriors, especially in stopping SGA.

By the way, the first game is already done – the Heat beat the Nets, and Butler scored a season-high 36 points.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 16, 2023, 05:59:58 PM

The Lakers are “showing interest” in Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, & Alex Caruso. Basically, the Lakers are going to try all they can to get a win out of the Bulls need for a rebuild. With Anthony Davis having shown interest in going to Chicago, something big could be happening with this. Getting Zach LaVine and Caruso while dumping Anthony Davis would be a huge win for them in my book.

That will be a blockbuster trade if that happens in the future. And I do agree that the Lakers are going to win in this one if they dump Anthony Davis + some other players in order to get back Caruso to the Lakers again, and then add to that DeRozan and Lavine.

I'm just imaging though what will be the package that the Lakers will include with Davis, for sure a lot of them just to get the superstars in DeRozan and Lavine.

And Davis being prone to injuries, I think this could be a good excuse for the Lakers to dump him for good. And I think Davis has done enough for the Lakers, winning a ring and he might be thinking of going out as well and Bulls could be a good team for him.

Its great package to acquire by Lakers since they really need a efficient player that can help them to win every games they play and beside that players they can acquire from blockbuster trade are healthy also a great player so provably Lakers would really take a win in that possible trade to happen.

Imagine Caruso + Reaves will play? For sure fans will get hype for this since they are their favorite player to watch. They don't really need Davis since his injury prone already so he should let go those liabilities and go what's best for the team.

The Original White Mamba and the heir apparent in Lakers, yeah it could be too good to be true watching them play together. But Caruso turns out to be the defensive player that he is with the Bulls, as compare to when he was still with the Lakers, when he contribute more on the offense giving us highlight dunks with Lebron James.

Maybe the package would look like AD + D'Lo + Prince or Rui and maybe future picks. So I do agree that the winner in this trade is the Lakers as what we have seen, AD is injury prone and very fragile that you felt nervous whenever he goes for a rebound and then land awkward and starting to grimace because of some pain he felt going down.

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Also Celtics kinda showed us that 76ers are not what they look like and as soon as they block Embiid , there is nowhere left to actually carry the game for them and now I do think that maybe they made a mistake letting Harden go ? could be.

Nah, they are good without Harden, Maxey is taking Harden's place now, it's that the Boston Celtics has the best duo in the NBA right now, Tatum and Brown, and they are very consistent this season.

For the Lakers, it's a up and down game against the Kings. The biggest issue with the team right now is that they simply allow their opponents to take a big lead and they have a hard time trying to catch up. Another team that is also inconsistent and I doubt that they are a championship caliber in the West right now. Kings kryptonite is the Warriors, but if the Warriors can't get their act together maybe if they play the Kings in the playoff, it will be a different story.

Agreed I think every team that has Harden leave is almost a net positive for them. Harden is good no doubt but he isn't a type of player that makes his team better. Looks like his teammates get disinterested when he is on the court. Think something is off with his ego and/or personality which makes it not work on the court.

True, perhaps the best team that Harden really put up a lot of effort is with the Houston Rockets, he partnered with CP3 and they almost made it to the finals and he is putting insane numbers and he shows he can carry a team, but not enough though.

And probably that is his mentality, that he can still carry the team but he keeps on joining super teams, so that is a contradictory itself. To be honest, I thought that he will stay with the Sixers, but I guess he understand that it is Joel's team and he will not make it as the alpha or the leader so he demanded a trade and just hiding on the excuse that the owner is a liar.

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The Lakers are “showing interest” in Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, & Alex Caruso. Basically, the Lakers are going to try all they can to get a win out of the Bulls need for a rebuild. With Anthony Davis having shown interest in going to Chicago, something big could be happening with this. Getting Zach LaVine and Caruso while dumping Anthony Davis would be a huge win for them in my book.

That will be a blockbuster trade if that happens in the future. And I do agree that the Lakers are going to win in this one if they dump Anthony Davis + some other players in order to get back Caruso to the Lakers again, and then add to that DeRozan and Lavine.

I'm just imaging though what will be the package that the Lakers will include with Davis, for sure a lot of them just to get the superstars in DeRozan and Lavine.

And Davis being prone to injuries, I think this could be a good excuse for the Lakers to dump him for good. And I think Davis has done enough for the Lakers, winning a ring and he might be thinking of going out as well and Bulls could be a good team for him.

Its great package to acquire by Lakers since they really need a efficient player that can help them to win every games they play and beside that players they can acquire from blockbuster trade are healthy also a great player so provably Lakers would really take a win in that possible trade to happen.

Imagine Caruso + Reaves will play? For sure fans will get hype for this since they are their favorite player to watch. They don't really need Davis since his injury prone already so he should let go those liabilities and go what's best for the team.

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