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November 26, 2024, 03:32:32 PM

Dallas at the moment is such a strange team. It feels like "no Luka no problem" for me. They got some pretty decent wins with Luka sidelined, for example @ Denver and @ OKC. I mean how is this possible, the best man is out and suddenly the team somehow plays better. Maybe he has the ball too often or what is the difference here? I mean there must be something, right?

Most of the time, it's the rotation and ball movements. Teams usually rely on the superstars. They need to touch the ball the most in every possession, so that hinders the other player's ability to get red hot and start making their own shots. Well, that depends on how the superstar's impact to the team when he's on the floor.  Luka is the kind of player who always makes the right play. However, any team knows that he's the main man to prioritized the defense to. With his absence, the team's offense are now less predictable for any teams & that goes to every other team that has superstars.

AHOYBRAUSE considering how Luka has been playing for so long, this is a weird situation. Usually a team would want their overwhelming superstar to be out there to take the ball when it is the most important. But for the time being they seem to be getting along without him playing almost full-time. But under normal circumstances, he is the guy who wins them the games most of the time.

From Jovic's point of view I think it is good to see that they can do it without him and the other players realize that as well. If they are now being put together again, maybe some synergies are created.

But despite being sidelined more than usual, he is still averaging 28.1 points, which is probably why you raise the question how it is possible that a team actually improves without him.
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November 26, 2024, 01:36:34 PM

Dallas at the moment is such a strange team. It feels like "no Luka no problem" for me. They got some pretty decent wins with Luka sidelined, for example @ Denver and @ OKC. I mean how is this possible, the best man is out and suddenly the team somehow plays better. Maybe he has the ball too often or what is the difference here? I mean there must be something, right?

Most of the time, it's the rotation and ball movements. Teams usually rely on the superstars. They need to touch the ball the most in every possession, so that hinders the other player's ability to get red hot and start making their own shots. Well, that depends on how the superstar's impact to the team when he's on the floor.  Luka is the kind of player who always makes the right play. However, any team knows that he's the main man to prioritized the defense to. With his absence, the team's offense are now less predictable for any teams & that goes to every other team that has superstars.
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November 26, 2024, 01:25:05 PM
Looking forward to the Lakers and Suns matchup later today on TNT.  That should be a great one to watch.  Beal and KD are supposedly going to make a return from the injured list to see if they can take down LeBron and AD in the Emirates NBA Cup.  Gotta enjoy these TNT broadcasts while we can.  It seems that Shaq isn't under contract for next year and is pretty upset that NBA on TNT is potentially moving to another network and are still advertising the show as if Shaq will be a part of it.  Big fella is holding out for a serious payday.

Oh so this is why the Suns are the favorite against the Lakers, I thought that KD is still in the injured list.

However, maybe at the last minute their plan might chance so it's very hard to just bet on them. Might be better to wait till the last minute and see that KD and Beal will actually suit up for the Suns.

They are just a slight favorite as per ML though, and the opening line is -/+1.5.
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November 26, 2024, 01:21:19 PM
Looking forward to the Lakers and Suns matchup later today on TNT.  That should be a great one to watch.  Beal and KD are supposedly going to make a return from the injured list to see if they can take down LeBron and AD in the Emirates NBA Cup.  Gotta enjoy these TNT broadcasts while we can.  It seems that Shaq isn't under contract for next year and is pretty upset that NBA on TNT is potentially moving to another network and are still advertising the show as if Shaq will be a part of it.  Big fella is holding out for a serious payday.
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November 26, 2024, 08:33:15 AM
I'm always excited to watch WB plays on Nuggets since its like he's a good fit with this team.

Based on his stats, he's giving more assists and even scoring a little more points compared to what he had last season. However, Westbrook's stats are still mediocre and far from what he had even 3-4 seasons ago. In other words, Westbrook may be comfortable with the Nuggets at the moment, but the fact is that he's already in the sunset of his career.
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November 26, 2024, 08:29:13 AM

Dallas at the moment is such a strange team. It feels like "no Luka no problem" for me. They got some pretty decent wins with Luka sidelined, for example @ Denver and @ OKC. I mean how is this possible, the best man is out and suddenly the team somehow plays better. Maybe he has the ball too often or what is the difference here? I mean there must be something, right?

Dallas is a really good team. I remember in the past when they were in the playoffs, and Luka didn’t play in that series, but Dallas surprisingly won with Brunson leading the team. Now, they have Irving, and the chemistry is already looking great, so they definitely have a chance to win. Maybe it was even a good thing that Klay didn’t play last night since he hasn’t been shooting well in the past few games.
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November 26, 2024, 08:17:48 AM

If they can make everything works well then they can take the advantage of that situation since there's no doubt that both of these players is a threat on their respected areas they just need to maximize their talent and trust each other in each situations happened in the court.

Although many people question their capability to win a lot of games but if they execute well their plays and have good chemistry with each other then provably the current roster of Nuggets is enough to compete again on playoffs or maybe they can reach again on finals. I'm always excited to watch WB plays on Nuggets since its like he's a good fit with this team.

Same to what I mentioned, either Murray or Jokic both stars creates collapses with the defenses and with WB strongly penetrating inside they can easily pass the ball to him and make a score, that's the same way how they use Gordon adding WB with that same attack the defense will need to adjust a good opportunity to both Jokic and Murray to easily take their shots if no help defense came because of that threat.

Let see if how they can maximize and execute this system, WB and Gordon are always ready if that incoming pass from Jokic and Murray comes up they are very much willing to take it.
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November 26, 2024, 08:08:03 AM

Even right now at Dallas, he is having one of the worst shooting performances of his career, and his defense isn't all that amazing neither, still decent enough but he isn't the defense lockdown he used to be. This is why I believe that they are going to have some trouble coming up, Dallas got Klay for a three pointer threat and help a bit with Luka on defense but that looks like not the Klay he used to be so he is causing a bit more trouble than they imagined.

I don't know how Dallas will recover from this, but I know that Warriors just replaced a bad Klay with a better Hield, sure Buddy is worse than peak Klay, but he is better than current Klay so this worked out great for them.

You are focusing all the blame to Klay while he is performing a decent performance before he got injured recently. You are just focusing on his bad game while discrediting all the contributions he made on the other matches.

Even Luka has a bad game or Kyrie yet people like keep focusing on Klay mistake because that’s the trend. Mavs are good even without Klay back then while they always have a bad start in the season and later on recover that’s why they always on the lower spot during playoffs.

Mavs is fine and stop being a blamer.

Crazy that they blame everything to Klay, it doesn't mean he's having a bad day automatically Dallas will lost. People should remember that he have good teammates like Kyrie and Luka. If everything struggle then automatically they provably end up losing their games.

Some people can't still move on on Klay's past issue and I think they need to move on in that situation since overall Klay still perform decently on Mavs. There maybe an issue happening now in their roster right now but if these people could familiarize on how they can blend together as a team and gain more chemistry also experience then Mavs would became more dangerous. I'm not surprise that they are losing since this is how Mavs perform last season. They surprise us when they give good fight on each team they faced and reach up to finals. There's a chance that they could also do that this season.
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November 26, 2024, 07:53:05 AM

Dallas at the moment is such a strange team. It feels like "no Luka no problem" for me. They got some pretty decent wins with Luka sidelined, for example @ Denver and @ OKC. I mean how is this possible, the best man is out and suddenly the team somehow plays better. Maybe he has the ball too often or what is the difference here? I mean there must be something, right?
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November 26, 2024, 05:35:06 AM
Westbrook had been a great help for Jokic in these past few games. Rebounding, defense, although his offense is on and off. But, you could always see his energy and aggressiveness, his will to win has never faded away, it's still there and I bet he now thinks he might get a ring in this team. Finally, if ever.

About that slap shot by Jokic, that could've been amazing if he made that. Here in our country who plays street basketball, we call that "pulso" although the English term for it is pulse, the real definition for us (street basketball) is wrist strength. The same with those who play badminton and who can always spike the shuttlecock like it's a speeding bullet. I think Jokic has a soft hand but a strong wrist and I don't think that can be taught, it's natural.
With the way Jokic players, Westbrook is a great help for him because of their playstyles complimenting each other a lot. Westbrook was never a great passer, sure he did average triple double, meaning he had seasons with 10+ assists per game, but he wasn't really a "passer", he just took on the offense a lot by himself, closed the defense on himself, and passed out, but the basketball IQ that is required to be a playmaker, someone like Lebron or Stockton, wasn't there.

Westbrook is a physical beast, and you use him as such, with Murray being younger, Nuggets never needed anyone else, but right now they are dealing with Westbrook from the bench and that means they are doing great help and could be very happy with the result.

Yeah WB gain a lot with how Jokic played the game, with his high IQ in terms of finding the open man when the defense already focusing on him that guy can be a big threat in finishing the basket, I like how Jokic really compensating him and that trade really works well for them, as you mentioned, Jamal is a solo artist who can really gain the attention of the defense again WB also can benefit as he can get the offensive rebounds and put back the basket.

If they can make everything works well then they can take the advantage of that situation since there's no doubt that both of these players is a threat on their respected areas they just need to maximize their talent and trust each other in each situations happened in the court.

Although many people question their capability to win a lot of games but if they execute well their plays and have good chemistry with each other then provably the current roster of Nuggets is enough to compete again on playoffs or maybe they can reach again on finals. I'm always excited to watch WB plays on Nuggets since its like he's a good fit with this team.
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November 26, 2024, 05:30:52 AM

Even right now at Dallas, he is having one of the worst shooting performances of his career, and his defense isn't all that amazing neither, still decent enough but he isn't the defense lockdown he used to be. This is why I believe that they are going to have some trouble coming up, Dallas got Klay for a three pointer threat and help a bit with Luka on defense but that looks like not the Klay he used to be so he is causing a bit more trouble than they imagined.

I don't know how Dallas will recover from this, but I know that Warriors just replaced a bad Klay with a better Hield, sure Buddy is worse than peak Klay, but he is better than current Klay so this worked out great for them.

You are focusing all the blame to Klay while he is performing a decent performance before he got injured recently. You are just focusing on his bad game while discrediting all the contributions he made on the other matches.

Even Luka has a bad game or Kyrie yet people like keep focusing on Klay mistake because that’s the trend. Mavs are good even without Klay back then while they always have a bad start in the season and later on recover that’s why they always on the lower spot during playoffs.

Mavs is fine and stop being a blamer.
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November 26, 2024, 04:35:31 AM
Warriors probably figured out that if they could get someone who could shoot even a bit decent from threes, they could deal with everything else. Last Klay Thompson was there, he wasn't defending that great because of his injury, and he wasn't shooting that well neither.

Even right now at Dallas, he is having one of the worst shooting performances of his career, and his defense isn't all that amazing neither, still decent enough but he isn't the defense lockdown he used to be. This is why I believe that they are going to have some trouble coming up, Dallas got Klay for a three pointer threat and help a bit with Luka on defense but that looks like not the Klay he used to be so he is causing a bit more trouble than they imagined.

I don't know how Dallas will recover from this, but I know that Warriors just replaced a bad Klay with a better Hield, sure Buddy is worse than peak Klay, but he is better than current Klay so this worked out great for them.
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November 26, 2024, 04:29:11 AM
So Porzingis is back, I didn't notice that as I missed the Celtics game against the Clippers. He finished strong with 16 points in 23 minutes of playtime and I think that's decent enough considering he was injured and just returned. Sadly, I didn't bet for the Celtics as it was at -10.5 before the game started and  I never thought Porzingis would suddenly play. Cheesy I think even the bookmakers were surprised as the handicap would've been adjusted if they knew he would play.
Anyway, they won against the Clippers in a strong game, and that makes their 6th winning streak although they are still number 2 in the East with the Cavaliers having the top spot.
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November 26, 2024, 03:36:54 AM
Westbrook had been a great help for Jokic in these past few games. Rebounding, defense, although his offense is on and off. But, you could always see his energy and aggressiveness, his will to win has never faded away, it's still there and I bet he now thinks he might get a ring in this team. Finally, if ever.

About that slap shot by Jokic, that could've been amazing if he made that. Here in our country who plays street basketball, we call that "pulso" although the English term for it is pulse, the real definition for us (street basketball) is wrist strength. The same with those who play badminton and who can always spike the shuttlecock like it's a speeding bullet. I think Jokic has a soft hand but a strong wrist and I don't think that can be taught, it's natural.
With the way Jokic players, Westbrook is a great help for him because of their playstyles complimenting each other a lot. Westbrook was never a great passer, sure he did average triple double, meaning he had seasons with 10+ assists per game, but he wasn't really a "passer", he just took on the offense a lot by himself, closed the defense on himself, and passed out, but the basketball IQ that is required to be a playmaker, someone like Lebron or Stockton, wasn't there.

Westbrook is a physical beast, and you use him as such, with Murray being younger, Nuggets never needed anyone else, but right now they are dealing with Westbrook from the bench and that means they are doing great help and could be very happy with the result.

Yeah WB gain a lot with how Jokic played the game, with his high IQ in terms of finding the open man when the defense already focusing on him that guy can be a big threat in finishing the basket, I like how Jokic really compensating him and that trade really works well for them, as you mentioned, Jamal is a solo artist who can really gain the attention of the defense again WB also can benefit as he can get the offensive rebounds and put back the basket.
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November 26, 2024, 01:44:51 AM
Westbrook had been a great help for Jokic in these past few games. Rebounding, defense, although his offense is on and off. But, you could always see his energy and aggressiveness, his will to win has never faded away, it's still there and I bet he now thinks he might get a ring in this team. Finally, if ever.

About that slap shot by Jokic, that could've been amazing if he made that. Here in our country who plays street basketball, we call that "pulso" although the English term for it is pulse, the real definition for us (street basketball) is wrist strength. The same with those who play badminton and who can always spike the shuttlecock like it's a speeding bullet. I think Jokic has a soft hand but a strong wrist and I don't think that can be taught, it's natural.
With the way Jokic players, Westbrook is a great help for him because of their playstyles complimenting each other a lot. Westbrook was never a great passer, sure he did average triple double, meaning he had seasons with 10+ assists per game, but he wasn't really a "passer", he just took on the offense a lot by himself, closed the defense on himself, and passed out, but the basketball IQ that is required to be a playmaker, someone like Lebron or Stockton, wasn't there.

Westbrook is a physical beast, and you use him as such, with Murray being younger, Nuggets never needed anyone else, but right now they are dealing with Westbrook from the bench and that means they are doing great help and could be very happy with the result.
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November 25, 2024, 05:58:58 PM
I was thinking that the Warriors with Steph Curry probably always win, but it is not the case. It's crazy how he landed the 3 pointers nonstop. There are so crazy videos about it, how is this even possible. But yesyou've got the talent or you don't. He has it.
It's like saying that teams with Jordan, Kobe and Lebron could always win but it's not. With the debates of which era is better.

I'm not into any of these eras saying that this one is better because both of them have their own best moments.

But you have probably quoted the wrong quote and not mine.  Tongue

Oh I noticed this just now, but anyway. In regards to 3 pointers I think there has never been a player of that same level. That's like playing on the play station. The guy has scored from the middle of the court not only once, but several times in his career and he never have to have his feet close to the 3 pointer line, he just took the shot from anywhere. There so many points where it felt like a bug when he made them. Cheesy What can you even do as an opponent when there is a guy running around who scores with a higher precision than anyone else...
I wouldn't argue about Steph because he surely indeed the goat in terms of having those 3s. When the time of Ray Allen, I really like him and he's very dependable and so as Steph.

There are other good 3 point shooters there but that's only one from the many of them.


I think there are some very basic abilities in any sport that allow you to compare across eras. Everyone saying something different is lying. As far as I can remember and have watched some highlights on Youtube, I have never seen a 3 shooter like that.

With some research you could clearly find the best free kick shooter in football. There are some objective measures where someone can stand out from all others. It doesn't apply to everything in every sport, but a few objective measures are there that are independent from the rules and technologies used.

In the case of Steph I think he has created miracle shots in a frequency that at some point I started not being surprised and this is when you know that someone is about stand out. Could other players do some shots like Steph? Yes they can, but can they do it so continuously that it doesn't impress you anymore? I think there has never been someone who scored 3 pointers like Steph did in terms of frequency. That is what sets him apart. What we would call a lucky shot for someone else, for him it is standard. That's what makes a GOAT with respect to a certain skill.
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November 25, 2024, 04:36:25 PM
Nice to see Westbrook have himself a hell of a game. Complete with some great highlights too. Same with Jokic, who nearly made a full court shot by slapping the ball off an inbounds play. I can’t even imagine the strength it must take to be able to do something like that. The guy is on another level.

Westbrook had been a great help for Jokic in these past few games. Rebounding, defense, although his offense is on and off. But, you could always see his energy and aggressiveness, his will to win has never faded away, it's still there and I bet he now thinks he might get a ring in this team. Finally, if ever.

They say that the Nuggets were able to crack on what to do with Westbrook and so far he was thriving in team. And also I think we discussed that he will have games wherein we might see a prime Westbrook and that's what we are seeing right now.

They will be facing Knicks are their homecourt, and there are reports that Towns is injured, lots of great games tonight actually,

Going to be very hard again to bet or even put like a 2-3 game parlay.
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November 25, 2024, 10:40:24 AM
Nice to see Westbrook have himself a hell of a game. Complete with some great highlights too. Same with Jokic, who nearly made a full court shot by slapping the ball off an inbounds play. I can’t even imagine the strength it must take to be able to do something like that. The guy is on another level.

Westbrook had been a great help for Jokic in these past few games. Rebounding, defense, although his offense is on and off. But, you could always see his energy and aggressiveness, his will to win has never faded away, it's still there and I bet he now thinks he might get a ring in this team. Finally, if ever.

About that slap shot by Jokic, that could've been amazing if he made that. Here in our country who plays street basketball, we call that "pulso" although the English term for it is pulse, the real definition for us (street basketball) is wrist strength. The same with those who play badminton and who can always spike the shuttlecock like it's a speeding bullet. I think Jokic has a soft hand but a strong wrist and I don't think that can be taught, it's natural.
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November 25, 2024, 03:58:42 AM
They probably get the correct personnel again, like in their last championship year, everyone is contributing from the bench, regardless if it is defense or offense. I don't like to say this, but probably Thompson leaving them is the best thing that happened to them this season.

Now, they move differently, Draymond Green is still anchoring their defense, and then Wiggins is coming back like a true GSW in 2022 and so is Kuminga. Looney although lost his position as starting center, it still very dominant inside and can give you double digits in a given good night. And definitely, Buddy Hield and Slow Mo and Melton (although he is injured again right?), is a perfect fit for the Warriors kind of play.
I hate to agree, but yeah it looks like Thompson leaving was something that benefited them a lot, not that it's bad for Thompson neither, Dallas is 9th right now but looking better everyday, they are adjusting to new team structure and getting used to each other, they will get better with time, and 9th isn't bad in this day and age, they could be in play-in, and I believe we are going to see them in like 5th or so seed as well if they get a bit better.

Klay has been scoring the least amount of points per game in his career since his rookie year, so we are seeing him not shooting like he used to so far, but I bet that when he gets used to it, he will score a lot more, which will bring in success. Golden State meanwhile is literally leading the west at the moment, looking amazing and I believe we are going to see them do much better with time as well, they have that championship calibre team all over and that should be something very exciting for them.

Yes, probably they needed that breathe of fresh air and we have seen teams in the part as well, so that's what really happen to Golden State Warriors. And again, during their last game, you can see Curry still pump up with Klay leaving them, but that's the way it is.

Dallas is struggling this season, same with the Nuggets although Denver seems to be slowly back in the game, while Dallas is very inconsistent and winning games that they should be winning by double digits but it's not.
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November 25, 2024, 03:48:22 AM
They probably get the correct personnel again, like in their last championship year, everyone is contributing from the bench, regardless if it is defense or offense. I don't like to say this, but probably Thompson leaving them is the best thing that happened to them this season.

Now, they move differently, Draymond Green is still anchoring their defense, and then Wiggins is coming back like a true GSW in 2022 and so is Kuminga. Looney although lost his position as starting center, it still very dominant inside and can give you double digits in a given good night. And definitely, Buddy Hield and Slow Mo and Melton (although he is injured again right?), is a perfect fit for the Warriors kind of play.
I hate to agree, but yeah it looks like Thompson leaving was something that benefited them a lot, not that it's bad for Thompson neither, Dallas is 9th right now but looking better everyday, they are adjusting to new team structure and getting used to each other, they will get better with time, and 9th isn't bad in this day and age, they could be in play-in, and I believe we are going to see them in like 5th or so seed as well if they get a bit better.

Klay has been scoring the least amount of points per game in his career since his rookie year, so we are seeing him not shooting like he used to so far, but I bet that when he gets used to it, he will score a lot more, which will bring in success. Golden State meanwhile is literally leading the west at the moment, looking amazing and I believe we are going to see them do much better with time as well, they have that championship calibre team all over and that should be something very exciting for them.
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