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Quote from: livingfree on September 22, 2023, 07:09:34 PM

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Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

Man, that’s a bummer. I wonder what went wrong. It seemed like a done deal. Those reports seem like they’re from accurate sources though. Dwight Howard seemed like a perfect fit for them. He must either still be a chaotic individual off the court, or old age has come at him fast. He was just winning a championship ring 3 years ago.

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You want news everyone about Dwight Howard's development together with the Golde State Warriors? Here's what we've got.

Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 22, 2023, 04:19:54 PM

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At the end of the day even if Dame wants to go to Miami but if the management deals with other teams and he's willing to put there, he will just have to be obliged, right? Or he's got the right to decline that trade. Like for example this deal trade with the Bulls is agreed.

It seems that he is desperate to get out of the Blazers right now, that's how I see it, so maybe if his advisors or at least his agent will tell him to take that offer, and instead of him sitting this season as been reported, it's better for now to be traded somewhere else, but who knows.

Yeah, whatever comes that might be good for his desire to get out then just agreed with it. But he knows himself better and the team that he's in or wherever he's gonna be traded to.

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Yeah, most likely the Warriors will have to help Dwight with his conditioning, and for sure they have the right people to do that. They have superstars that is also ageing, so maybe they have a good program or at least put one for Dwight if they will get him for this season.

They likely have it. They've taken CP3 and now they're gonna have Dwight Howard on their wings and that's why they must be cooking something that's gonna work for them. I just hope that this isn't like the other teams that's super hyped before but became a lackluster during the actual season.

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I do understand why Dame would want out of Portland, they are not really doing all that great and it would make sense to see him leave, but I do not understand why Lavine would want to leave, they do have a good core there and could do fine. If Lavine leaves, with Dame at the helm along with Derozan, that team could be a very good team. Lavine would just be a tank commander at that point and leave after his contract is up, so its not really a good trade for him. I still think that Dame and Blazers could just come to an agreement to cancel the contract, its allowed, they do not have to pay him if he agrees, and then Dame can go wherever he wants but take a pay cut instead. Not many teams or players do that, I think it should be considered.

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We've got some rumors again that came out related to Damian Lillard and it's another team that's interested to trade him. It is the Chicago Bulls that are interested in acquiring Damian Lillard. What do you think about this? The article says that they're likely to trade LaVine for Lillard.
(https://fadeawayworld.net/chicago-bulls-interested-damian-lillard-trade)

I think before this news came out, there were was a rumor last year specially on how the Bulls was not able to get over the first round of playoffs, despite having a good tandem in Lavine and DeRozan, that Lavine is not happy and so he might want a trade.

But in this case, Damian Lillard said he wants Miami his as his preferred destination though. And not sure if Portland is willing to have a 1:1 trade here or if Lavine also wanted to be with Portland.

At the end of the day even if Dame wants to go to Miami but if the management deals with other teams and he's willing to put there, he will just have to be obliged, right? Or he's got the right to decline that trade. Like for example this deal trade with the Bulls is agreed.

It seems that he is desperate to get out of the Blazers right now, that's how I see it, so maybe if his advisors or at least his agent will tell him to take that offer, and instead of him sitting this season as been reported, it's better for now to be traded somewhere else, but who knows.

Yeah, most likely the Warriors will have to help Dwight with his conditioning, and for sure they have the right people to do that. They have superstars that is also ageing, so maybe they have a good program or at least put one for Dwight if they will get him for this season.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 22, 2023, 01:27:35 AM

I guess it's hard to find pieces for the other team to trade for a veteran superstar who most likely not going to make any difference if not being surrounded by another star or an excellent role players. Can't deny that Dame is not capable of leading a team to a championship, he'd be a great addition to any team who's already built to compete in the playoffs.
It's just ridiculous to think that some veteran superstars are now desperate to have a ring, bad thing is they'll create a drama to make their way out of their respective organisations lol.

I am not entirely sure if it was all about his issues or anything but if he had any issues at locker room, that is still a valid reason not to get him as well. Doesn't matter if he was an "elite" player, to be fair at that age I highly doubt that he could be elite, I watched his last season at NBA and he was nowhere near elite, but he was basically carrying some minutes so that the real center would relax.

However, if he was only let go and couldn't find a place in the NBA because of his personality or anything like that, then I am guessing that he is not going to end up with anything that would be any different here as well. What if he has some sort of locker room issues and ruins something perfectly running so far.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 22, 2023, 10:40:56 AM

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Looking at the pictures of yesterday’s workout with the Warriors, it appears like they are are more concerned with Dwight Howard’s conditioning than his basketball skills. I think this is a good sign that he will be a Warrior next season. Usually during these workouts you see a lot of basketball drills and less conditioning workouts. Unless Dwight did something inappropriate yesterday (entirely possible) I think we’ll see a deal announced soon.

The skills are definitely there; he was a superstar during his prime. But he is aging now, already 37 years old, so he is not the same player anymore. However, if the team knows how to utilize him, he could be a significant factor for the team. His wide body could be very useful for Curry in setting screens, and he can also be physical inside in grabbing rebounds. In addition, CP3 would make him even better, so he better be in peak condition, as he might be the key to the Warriors' success this season.

@OgNasty I mean he is 37 years old. So people are definitely going to be worried about his conditioning. At the same time, basketball skills are also very important. Basketball skills are actually more important I will say. But both skills go hand-in-hand. One is pretty much useless without the other. Especially when we are talking about playing basketball. He was definitely a great player during his prime. But at this age, they are definitely not going to expect that kind of performance from him. If he is able to provide what they are expecting from him, I don’t think there will be any problems.

And I agree with @Distinctin that for him to be useful for the team, he will have to be in great physical condition.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 21, 2023, 04:05:15 PM

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We've got some rumors again that came out related to Damian Lillard and it's another team that's interested to trade him. It is the Chicago Bulls that are interested in acquiring Damian Lillard. What do you think about this? The article says that they're likely to trade LaVine for Lillard.
(https://fadeawayworld.net/chicago-bulls-interested-damian-lillard-trade)

I think before this news came out, there were was a rumor last year specially on how the Bulls was not able to get over the first round of playoffs, despite having a good tandem in Lavine and DeRozan, that Lavine is not happy and so he might want a trade.

But in this case, Damian Lillard said he wants Miami his as his preferred destination though. And not sure if Portland is willing to have a 1:1 trade here or if Lavine also wanted to be with Portland.

At the end of the day even if Dame wants to go to Miami but if the management deals with other teams and he's willing to put there, he will just have to be obliged, right? Or he's got the right to decline that trade. Like for example this deal trade with the Bulls is agreed.

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We've got some rumors again that came out related to Damian Lillard and it's another team that's interested to trade him. It is the Chicago Bulls that are interested in acquiring Damian Lillard. What do you think about this? The article says that they're likely to trade LaVine for Lillard.
(https://fadeawayworld.net/chicago-bulls-interested-damian-lillard-trade)

I would say the Blazers will reject all of the Bulls' offer for sure.
The Heat has better assets compare to the Bulls, and yet they didn't make a deal with them. What are the assets Chicago has? Lavine? Hardly an all-star caliber anymore. Vucevic? Who will be their center if they will trade him? After those 2, they don't have any attractive assets anymore that will make the Blazers trade Dame. Overall, I would say Miami would be a better team for Dame than Chicago.

They might not have that much but some support players could also be dealt with upon for this trade if ever this happens. But again, this is just a rumor and we'll never know until a deal settles if it's with Miami or Bulls or any other interested team.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 22, 2023, 10:35:08 AM

But it could be that Phoenix is looking for something that values more. I just checked Ayton's contract and he is paid an average of around $33 million. Jusuf Nurkic has lower but nearly the same output as Ayton and is only paid an average of around $16 million yearly.

So, if the trade were to happen, it should involve Nurkic and a bunch of players in exchange for Ayton, right? Well, that seems fair, but personally, I'm more concerned about Nurkic's health as he seems to be injury-prone already compared to Ayton. Also, I've seen him in the playoffs, like when the Blazers were playing against the Nuggets, and it's evident that he couldn't effectively stop Jokic. So, in terms of defense and maturity in the game, I would lean towards Ayton. But I understand that teams involved in a possible trade look at how valuable the players they acquire will be, and they wouldn't agree to it if they didn't see benefits. At this moment, I would say it's a crucial decision.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 22, 2023, 10:32:48 AM

Looking at the pictures of yesterday’s workout with the Warriors, it appears like they are are more concerned with Dwight Howard’s conditioning than his basketball skills. I think this is a good sign that he will be a Warrior next season. Usually during these workouts you see a lot of basketball drills and less conditioning workouts. Unless Dwight did something inappropriate yesterday (entirely possible) I think we’ll see a deal announced soon.

The skills are definitely there; he was a superstar during his prime. But he is aging now, already 37 years old, so he is not the same player anymore. However, if the team knows how to utilize him, he could be a significant factor for the team. His wide body could be very useful for Curry in setting screens, and he can also be physical inside in grabbing rebounds. In addition, CP3 would make him even better, so he better be in peak condition, as he might be the key to the Warriors' success this season.

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Phoenix news is reporting that the Dallas Mavericks made a trade offer to the Phoenix Suns for DeAndre Ayton but it apparently was a very bad offer so they declined. I’m actually glad they did and hope they hold onto him. I think Ayton was a big part of their run for the Finals and with a new coach I’m expecting him to have a big year.

And I don't know who Dallas Mavericks offer though, I mean they already lost some of their good players when they acquire Kyrie, so I doubt that they still have some to offer in the trade.

Good that Ayton remain with the team, I think what he needs is motivation and not criticism as what his former coach do to him. And with a solid line up already, I don't think that the Suns needs to messed up everything as they need Ayton, just like when they had a good run in the finals years ago against the Bucks.

Deandre Ayton has been in trade rumors for the past years and it surprised me since he's playing well in Phoenix. But there are critics that he should be producing more as a top 1 pick and dominate the game. Maybe his potential as a player is limited. But he is still young and can be developed.

But it could be that Phoenix is looking for something that values more. I just checked Ayton's contract and he is paid an average of around $33 million. Jusuf Nurkic has lower but nearly the same output as Ayton and is only paid an average of around $16 million yearly.

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Looking at the pictures of yesterday’s workout with the Warriors, it appears like they are are more concerned with Dwight Howard’s conditioning than his basketball skills. I think this is a good sign that he will be a Warrior next season. Usually during these workouts you see a lot of basketball drills and less conditioning workouts. Unless Dwight did something inappropriate yesterday (entirely possible) I think we’ll see a deal announced soon.

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Phoenix news is reporting that the Dallas Mavericks made a trade offer to the Phoenix Suns for DeAndre Ayton but it apparently was a very bad offer so they declined. I’m actually glad they did and hope they hold onto him. I think Ayton was a big part of their run for the Finals and with a new coach I’m expecting him to have a big year.

They cannot mess up the current roster as they are starting to build great chemistry already. Ayton is not a bad player; he probably just had a problem with the previous coach, so we have to give him the benefit of the doubt and see if he can perform well in the coming season. With Durant as their new leader, I expect to see a dominant team, as Bradley Beal will surely be 100% healthy when the season starts.

There will be significant changes in the lineup that could affect their chemistry. Having a versatile center with great perimeter shooting is already a significant advantage over others. I think they should keep him, as there are only a few big men who can do that nowadays. Ayton is still young and healthy, so it's necessary for him to be in the lineup, while Durant, Booker, and Beal should focus on offense.

I agree, it seems that coach Monty has singled out Ayton's performance and so Andre wants to leave Phoenix that time. But with a new coach and it seems that the roster has been overhauled already, I think Ayton might be thinking of staying with the Suns for now.

Dallas Mavericks? they seems to can't find a perfect fit with Luka and I don't think that Ayton will be the missing pieces, in my opinion. Luka should be getting like maybe some role players that will do the job.

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Nothing new on the Harden front according to the article I read. He still wants to go to the Clippers apparently, but so far that hasn't happened. There are other teams interested like Miami, but only if they don't get Lillard and people are also complaining he is a hard player to coach. Very unprofessional and getting old.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/philadelphia-76ers-many-around-the-nba-question-james-harden-s-professionalism/ar-AA1h4ezs

The Heat management will make a big mistake if they decide to sign a contract with Harden. I hope that doesn't happen.
As for Lillard, it's worth noting that there have been many rumors that he could be traded before training camp starts, i.e. before October 2 or even earlier. So if the Heat are still hungry to get him, they will need to involve a third or even fourth team for this deal.

Correct, Harden is just chasing a ring and if he cannot get that on Miami for sure the same scenario what he do from his past teams he would leave them. Imagine the assets wasted if that scenario will happen to them so maybe its better for them to stick with their current roster and improve by signing some free agents that can help their team to became more stronger on certain areas. Harden is working for his own stats and not for his team so hopefully Miami will not gamble to get a toxic player in their team.

If it's true that he is very unprofessional and hard to coach, then no team would be interested in him. He might just end up with the 76ers if the team decides not to trade him, but they will bear the losses for not letting James Harden play or allowing Harden to choose not to play. The 76ers were a struggling team before but improved when they had Embiid, and it looks like they are regressing to a past scenario.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 22, 2023, 02:30:53 AM

Phoenix news is reporting that the Dallas Mavericks made a trade offer to the Phoenix Suns for DeAndre Ayton but it apparently was a very bad offer so they declined. I’m actually glad they did and hope they hold onto him. I think Ayton was a big part of their run for the Finals and with a new coach I’m expecting him to have a big year.

And I don't know who Dallas Mavericks offer though, I mean they already lost some of their good players when they acquire Kyrie, so I doubt that they still have some to offer in the trade.

Good that Ayton remain with the team, I think what he needs is motivation and not criticism as what his former coach do to him. And with a solid line up already, I don't think that the Suns needs to messed up everything as they need Ayton, just like when they had a good run in the finals years ago against the Bucks.

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Nothing new on the Harden front according to the article I read. He still wants to go to the Clippers apparently, but so far that hasn't happened. There are other teams interested like Miami, but only if they don't get Lillard and people are also complaining he is a hard player to coach. Very unprofessional and getting old.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/philadelphia-76ers-many-around-the-nba-question-james-harden-s-professionalism/ar-AA1h4ezs

The Heat management will make a big mistake if they decide to sign a contract with Harden. I hope that doesn't happen.
As for Lillard, it's worth noting that there have been many rumors that he could be traded before training camp starts, i.e. before October 2 or even earlier. So if the Heat are still hungry to get him, they will need to involve a third or even fourth team for this deal.

Correct, Harden is just chasing a ring and if he cannot get that on Miami for sure the same scenario what he do from his past teams he would leave them. Imagine the assets wasted if that scenario will happen to them so maybe its better for them to stick with their current roster and improve by signing some free agents that can help their team to became more stronger on certain areas. Harden is working for his own stats and not for his team so hopefully Miami will not gamble to get a toxic player in their team.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 22, 2023, 02:30:53 AM

Phoenix news is reporting that the Dallas Mavericks made a trade offer to the Phoenix Suns for DeAndre Ayton but it apparently was a very bad offer so they declined. I’m actually glad they did and hope they hold onto him. I think Ayton was a big part of their run for the Finals and with a new coach I’m expecting him to have a big year.

There's nothing wrong with Andrew Ayton and seems to doing everything he can to get them back to the NBA finals so there's no reason for him to be traded to the other teams with some low offers. with the new fresh coach and other new players recently added, they will get back to that easily if they have some sort of player that can stop Jokic this year. I think KD will be able to play more comfortably this season because he rests well and finally gets back on track.

I think you are referring to Deandre Ayton, and yes, there's nothing wrong with him because his stats during the finals against the Bucks is just good enough. We can check his stats and we can see that he was really contributing to the team, it's just that Booker has some struggle too, but that was 6 games, so the team is still good in competing with the Bucks who are the bigger team I think.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 22, 2023, 02:30:53 AM

Phoenix news is reporting that the Dallas Mavericks made a trade offer to the Phoenix Suns for DeAndre Ayton but it apparently was a very bad offer so they declined. I’m actually glad they did and hope they hold onto him. I think Ayton was a big part of their run for the Finals and with a new coach I’m expecting him to have a big year.

There's nothing wrong with Andrew Ayton and seems to doing everything he can to get them back to the NBA finals so there's no reason for him to be traded to the other teams with some low offers. with the new fresh coach and other new players recently added, they will get back to that easily if they have some sort of player that can stop Jokic this year. I think KD will be able to play more comfortably this season because he rests well and finally gets back on track.

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Let's not get ahead just yet. Dwight Howard is not yet signed with the Golden State Warriors just yet but he got the approval of most veterans of the team so it's a good sign.

IMO, I like to see him play one more time in the NBA. I want to see that bully ball that he played against Nikola Jokic and every big man in the league.
I don't really care if he scores or not, just that mere defensive strength will get my hopes high about him. He may be seasoned but he can still play and looking at his physical attributes, he still got it.
It will just depend on Coach Kerr if he will give him the minutes if ever the Warriors management will sign him even for a veteran contract.

If today’s workout with Green and CP3 goes well, I think he’ll be a Warrior. I’m excited about it not just from a defensive end, but for what he brings to the table on offense. I thought having a roll to the basket alley-oop threat has been missing since they got rid of JaVale McGee. Dwight would likely open up things for Curry and Klay to get more looks.

I agree. Looney is also not that type of a player, he mostly gets his score from offensive rebounds and then a put-back. Now, the Warriors could widen their options with an alley-oop play for Dwight Howard and since most teams are playing small ball he could dominate on that end. Defensively, he ain't a problem, we saw that during the bubble and it was just 3 years ago, I doubt he changed that much in just 3 years. Speed, agility, following the pace and chemistry, should be enhanced during their training if they want to be champions one more time.

Oh, and Draymond Green is not happy about how the news about Dwight Howard working out with him and Chris Paul leaked out that fast. I think they meant to do this as a secret and will just surprise everyone when the contract is given to Dwight.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 21, 2023, 09:08:51 PM

Nothing new on the Harden front according to the article I read. He still wants to go to the Clippers apparently, but so far that hasn't happened. There are other teams interested like Miami, but only if they don't get Lillard and people are also complaining he is a hard player to coach. Very unprofessional and getting old.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/philadelphia-76ers-many-around-the-nba-question-james-harden-s-professionalism/ar-AA1h4ezs

The Heat management will make a big mistake if they decide to sign a contract with Harden. I hope that doesn't happen.
As for Lillard, it's worth noting that there have been many rumors that he could be traded before training camp starts, i.e. before October 2 or even earlier. So if the Heat are still hungry to get him, they will need to involve a third or even fourth team for this deal.

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