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September 27, 2023, 01:27:26 PM
I just saw this on Facebook.: Rudy Gay has agreed on a one-year deal with the Golden State Warriors.

https://www.facebook.com/NBA.updates4all/posts/pfbid02akbi8ucCxXD5C97zonDD6A9QHZ3WaCBRSsjbfQjKwZ9FoU1BefoxWqHRzD4gQ3ttl

I thought this guy was already done in the NBA but it looks like he still has a contract, unlike Dwight Howard who humorously claimed to be with the Golden State Warriors this season.
Rudy Gay averaged only 5 points per game while playing an average of 15 minutes last season.
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September 27, 2023, 08:30:13 AM
Even if a team on the west manages to beat Denver this year, which could be done because most teams are not three peat type of teams and just win it once (look at bucks for example) but that doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with East teams just letting whoever is the new west team to win that easily. If Suns ends up going to finals this year, they would still have to play against the team from the east and they may end up losing that as well, so its never guaranteed. I am hoping that it would be good to see a bunch of teams trying to end up good, its not good to have bad parity and just good teams at the top, 1-2 good teams and rest sucks would be terrible.
The East will be almost predictable again if there aren't any changes in their roster, I am sure the Boston Celtics will dominate especially with the addition of the Unicorn Kristaps Porzingis. Now, the 76ers have a big problem on their roster with James Harden, the Miami Heat will still be an underrated team, Milwaukee Bucks seem to be silent too.
I can see the Orlando Magic taking a good spot in the East too.

I am also optimistic that the Boston Celtics will once again dominate in the East, especially during the regular games. Hopefully, Porzingis can stay healthy throughout the whole season. It would be really nice if the 76ers could trade James Hardin as early as possible so they can just focus more on their games and strategies without him. The same with the Miami Heat, they are busy trying hard to get Damian Lillard this season. The Bucks is a poor team compared to the other teams and it is located in a smaller city unlike LA, Houston, Boston, etc. They should be happy to have Giannis staying with them over the years.

Nonetheless, it will be another tough season. I have Denver and Phoenix as the top teams in the West while it might be more competitive in the East with some dark horse teams.
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September 27, 2023, 08:23:48 AM
And if I'm not mistaken, it was supposedly the East that should dominate last season, with Giannis had a good run with the Bucks in the regular games. And also Boston Celtics, who has the formidable duo of Tatum and Brown and then former Celtic defensive specialist in Marcus Smart. And then the Sixers with Joel winning the MVP and James Harden at the helm.

But the Nuggets has total different mentally in the West. They take the lead, the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers falter with injuries and it seems the focus that time is Lebron breaking Kareem's record. So let's see if the East can bounce back again and win the NBA trophy for this season to even up.
I think this could be a good question! I was also hopeful that the East would win last season, but that didn't happen.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Celtics play soon (even if it's preseason)
I have no doubt that Tatum, Brown and others will do everything they can to become champions

I feel like the Celtics had their chance and now the window is closing. With Smart gone a major piece of their team is missing. Plus a lot of their guys are getting older and while Tatum and Brown are still on top of their game, I don’t see them improving enough to make up for the rest of the team’s decay. They need another piece to get by the Bucks and Sixers.

I agree, perhaps it was the best Celtics that we have seen in years, I mean Brown is averaging good points and Tatum playing MVP caliber and Smart doing his thing as a defensive player. Bucks too, but what an upset by the Heat and Butler proving himself as a playoff player. But it might be different this year as their core or at least 2-3 players are out from that team that goes to the NBA finals.

But I do agree, without Smart now as their leader, Tatum will have to lead all the way. And if he can't do that, then the doors is going to close for them as there could be a lot of chances right after this season if they can't go to the Finals with this lineup.
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September 27, 2023, 07:58:51 AM
The East will be almost predictable again if there aren't any changes in their roster, I am sure the Boston Celtics will dominate especially with the addition of the Unicorn Kristaps Porzingis. Now, the 76ers have a big problem on their roster with James Harden, the Miami Heat will still be an underrated team, Milwaukee Bucks seem to be silent too.
I can see the Orlando Magic taking a good spot in the East too.

I believe the 76ers will struggle next season as long as they have James Harden. We know that Embiid alone won't be able to carry the team to the playoffs. With him being the main player carrying most of the load, it's not going to be helpful for his health, especially considering his past serious injuries. I think the team that has made a great addition here is the Boston Celtics; they'll be a tough team to beat, provided Porzingis remains healthy, especially in the playoffs.
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September 27, 2023, 07:51:31 AM
And if I'm not mistaken, it was supposedly the East that should dominate last season, with Giannis had a good run with the Bucks in the regular games. And also Boston Celtics, who has the formidable duo of Tatum and Brown and then former Celtic defensive specialist in Marcus Smart. And then the Sixers with Joel winning the MVP and James Harden at the helm.

But the Nuggets has total different mentally in the West. They take the lead, the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers falter with injuries and it seems the focus that time is Lebron breaking Kareem's record. So let's see if the East can bounce back again and win the NBA trophy for this season to even up.
I think this could be a good question! I was also hopeful that the East would win last season, but that didn't happen.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Celtics play soon (even if it's preseason)
I have no doubt that Tatum, Brown and others will do everything they can to become champions

Yeah Boston will be interesting to watch.
Now it's not only Tatum and Brown anymore. Adding Porzingis in this mix basically gave them a big 3. Of course we have to wait and see how this plays out but I have a good feeling about it.
When he is healthy he he can be a force. Last season in Washington he had great numbers with 23 points and over 8 rebounds per game. Actually ppg wise it was the best season of his career last year. Adding this to the mix might be bad news for the league and especially the east.

Roster wise they have the best team in the east. The bucks are getting old, Miami is not that deep ( but they have other  advantages ), Philly has a lot of trouble and who else is there at the moment?

At the moment all the other star players are in the west so the door is wide open for the Celtics to make this their season, at least in the east.


I'm not sure, man. I don't want to get caught up in the hype, especially since I've seen scenarios in the past where Porzingis joined a team, and it didn't meet our expectations. While his personal stats are quite impressive, his overall impact on the team hasn't always matched. So, I'm not entirely convinced that he's a good addition to the Boston Celtics. Last season, he played 65 games for the Wizards, and hopefully, he'll stay as healthy with the Celtics as he was last season.
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September 27, 2023, 06:55:31 AM
It should be that CP3 now being a Warriors is now on the side of Klay. Funny thing is that when Booker talked trash, the team losses. Just like in the playoffs when him and Luka did have their own rivalry and trash talking. But at the end of the end, the Suns has no answer for Luka. But now with KD at his back, for sure Booker will open his mouth more this season, I reckon.

But it's going to be interesting to see, Booker and KD against the Warriors maybe in the finals of the West and it's a hard playoff series. It's early though, there is still the defending champions in Nuggets that this 2 teams has to reckon.
That I am sure too. He will open his mouth more now that his backup is an assassin.
It doesn't really need to be in the Finals for them to start the rivalry again, just the playoffs will do because I am still rooting for the Denver Nuggets to win back-to-back or the Sacramento Kings to take the crown for the first time in Kings' history.

Even if a team on the west manages to beat Denver this year, which could be done because most teams are not three peat type of teams and just win it once (look at bucks for example) but that doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with East teams just letting whoever is the new west team to win that easily. If Suns ends up going to finals this year, they would still have to play against the team from the east and they may end up losing that as well, so its never guaranteed. I am hoping that it would be good to see a bunch of teams trying to end up good, its not good to have bad parity and just good teams at the top, 1-2 good teams and rest sucks would be terrible.
The East will be almost predictable again if there aren't any changes in their roster, I am sure the Boston Celtics will dominate especially with the addition of the Unicorn Kristaps Porzingis. Now, the 76ers have a big problem on their roster with James Harden, the Miami Heat will still be an underrated team, Milwaukee Bucks seem to be silent too.
I can see the Orlando Magic taking a good spot in the East too.
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September 27, 2023, 06:32:14 AM
And if I'm not mistaken, it was supposedly the East that should dominate last season, with Giannis had a good run with the Bucks in the regular games. And also Boston Celtics, who has the formidable duo of Tatum and Brown and then former Celtic defensive specialist in Marcus Smart. And then the Sixers with Joel winning the MVP and James Harden at the helm.

But the Nuggets has total different mentally in the West. They take the lead, the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers falter with injuries and it seems the focus that time is Lebron breaking Kareem's record. So let's see if the East can bounce back again and win the NBA trophy for this season to even up.
I think this could be a good question! I was also hopeful that the East would win last season, but that didn't happen.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Celtics play soon (even if it's preseason)
I have no doubt that Tatum, Brown and others will do everything they can to become champions

Yeah Boston will be interesting to watch.
Now it's not only Tatum and Brown anymore. Adding Porzingis in this mix basically gave them a big 3. Of course we have to wait and see how this plays out but I have a good feeling about it.
When he is healthy he he can be a force. Last season in Washington he had great numbers with 23 points and over 8 rebounds per game. Actually ppg wise it was the best season of his career last year. Adding this to the mix might be bad news for the league and especially the east.

Roster wise they have the best team in the east. The bucks are getting old, Miami is not that deep ( but they have other  advantages ), Philly has a lot of trouble and who else is there at the moment?

At the moment all the other star players are in the west so the door is wide open for the Celtics to make this their season, at least in the east.
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September 27, 2023, 05:18:46 AM
What I see is that the Bucks and Celtics have good rosters, but unfortunately, they don't have a good coach as skilled as the Heat's.

Erik Spoelstra has been with the Heat for over 26 seasons, and he got his first championship experience back in the 05/06 season when the Heat won their first title under Riley. At that point, he was still just an assistant coach. But when he became the head coach, he also gained valuable experience leading the Heat's big trio. So Spo is indeed a very experienced coach, but it seems that it is not enough, considering that the Heat have already failed literally one step away from the title a few times.

I guess their lineup isn't that strong because Coach Spo has already proven in the past that with a good roster, he can help them win a championship. Remember that LeBron got his first championship with Coach Spo, and it was actually a back-to-back championship in 2012 and 2013. The roster then consisted of a big three, all of whom were Hall of Famers, especially Wade and LeBron. I'm not sure about Chris Bosh, though, as he wasn't able to finish his career due to health issues.

I believe that if LeBron didn't return to the Cleveland Cavaliers, the Miami Heat might have won more championships. It was LeBron who made the team stronger. No disrespect to Dwayne Wade, though, as he also won a championship without LeBron, but the 'Big Three' was unstoppable. Even a strong Warriors team might not have been able to stop them. So, Coach Spoelstra is already a fulfilled coach, winning multiple championships as a head coach.

Now, let's shift our focus to the current Miami Heat roster. I think if Damian Lillard were to join, that's when we would see the Heat having a legitimate chance of winning the championship. It wouldn't rely solely on Butler, as sometimes he isn't consistent, and you know, many factors could affect him. If he carries the team, he will be more prone to injury or at least fatigue.
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September 27, 2023, 04:35:29 AM
What I see is that the Bucks and Celtics have good rosters, but unfortunately, they don't have a good coach as skilled as the Heat's.

Erik Spoelstra has been with the Heat for over 26 seasons, and he got his first championship experience back in the 05/06 season when the Heat won their first title under Riley. At that point, he was still just an assistant coach. But when he became the head coach, he also gained valuable experience leading the Heat's big trio. So Spo is indeed a very experienced coach, but it seems that it is not enough, considering that the Heat have already failed literally one step away from the title a few times.

I guess their lineup isn't that strong because Coach Spo has already proven in the past that with a good roster, he can help them win a championship. Remember that LeBron got his first championship with Coach Spo, and it was actually a back-to-back championship in 2012 and 2013. The roster then consisted of a big three, all of whom were Hall of Famers, especially Wade and LeBron. I'm not sure about Chris Bosh, though, as he wasn't able to finish his career due to health issues.
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September 27, 2023, 03:04:08 AM
What I see is that the Bucks and Celtics have good rosters, but unfortunately, they don't have a good coach as skilled as the Heat's.

Erik Spoelstra has been with the Heat for over 26 seasons, and he got his first championship experience back in the 05/06 season when the Heat won their first title under Riley. At that point, he was still just an assistant coach. But when he became the head coach, he also gained valuable experience leading the Heat's big trio. So Spo is indeed a very experienced coach, but it seems that it is not enough, considering that the Heat have already failed literally one step away from the title a few times.
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September 27, 2023, 02:52:19 AM
And if I'm not mistaken, it was supposedly the East that should dominate last season, with Giannis had a good run with the Bucks in the regular games. And also Boston Celtics, who has the formidable duo of Tatum and Brown and then former Celtic defensive specialist in Marcus Smart. And then the Sixers with Joel winning the MVP and James Harden at the helm.

But the Nuggets has total different mentally in the West. They take the lead, the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers falter with injuries and it seems the focus that time is Lebron breaking Kareem's record. So let's see if the East can bounce back again and win the NBA trophy for this season to even up.
I think this could be a good question! I was also hopeful that the East would win last season, but that didn't happen.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Celtics play soon (even if it's preseason)
I have no doubt that Tatum, Brown and others will do everything they can to become champions

I feel like the Celtics had their chance and now the window is closing. With Smart gone a major piece of their team is missing. Plus a lot of their guys are getting older and while Tatum and Brown are still on top of their game, I don’t see them improving enough to make up for the rest of the team’s decay. They need another piece to get by the Bucks and Sixers.
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September 27, 2023, 02:07:59 AM
And if I'm not mistaken, it was supposedly the East that should dominate last season, with Giannis had a good run with the Bucks in the regular games. And also Boston Celtics, who has the formidable duo of Tatum and Brown and then former Celtic defensive specialist in Marcus Smart. And then the Sixers with Joel winning the MVP and James Harden at the helm.

But the Nuggets has total different mentally in the West. They take the lead, the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers falter with injuries and it seems the focus that time is Lebron breaking Kareem's record. So let's see if the East can bounce back again and win the NBA trophy for this season to even up.
I think this could be a good question! I was also hopeful that the East would win last season, but that didn't happen.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Celtics play soon (even if it's preseason)
I have no doubt that Tatum, Brown and others will do everything they can to become champions

This changed when the Heat advanced to the NBA Finals. If we revisit the betting odds, the Heat were heavy underdogs, and the public was right in favoring the Nuggets to win. The issue in the Eastern Conference is that these teams, the Heat, Bucks, and Celtics, seem to know each other very well. The Heat were able to exploit their weaknesses in the last playoffs, which is why they won. However, as in the past, when they advanced to the Finals, they easily lost.

The last time they reached the Finals, they faced the Lakers and also lost convincingly.

What I see is that the Bucks and Celtics have good rosters, but unfortunately, they don't have a good coach as skilled as the Heat's.
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September 27, 2023, 12:57:29 AM
And if I'm not mistaken, it was supposedly the East that should dominate last season, with Giannis had a good run with the Bucks in the regular games. And also Boston Celtics, who has the formidable duo of Tatum and Brown and then former Celtic defensive specialist in Marcus Smart. And then the Sixers with Joel winning the MVP and James Harden at the helm.

But the Nuggets has total different mentally in the West. They take the lead, the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers falter with injuries and it seems the focus that time is Lebron breaking Kareem's record. So let's see if the East can bounce back again and win the NBA trophy for this season to even up.
I think this could be a good question! I was also hopeful that the East would win last season, but that didn't happen.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Celtics play soon (even if it's preseason)
I have no doubt that Tatum, Brown and others will do everything they can to become champions
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September 26, 2023, 11:49:50 PM
Even if a team on the west manages to beat Denver this year, which could be done because most teams are not three peat type of teams and just win it once (look at bucks for example) but that doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with East teams just letting whoever is the new west team to win that easily. If Suns ends up going to finals this year, they would still have to play against the team from the east and they may end up losing that as well, so its never guaranteed. I am hoping that it would be good to see a bunch of teams trying to end up good, its not good to have bad parity and just good teams at the top, 1-2 good teams and rest sucks would be terrible.

If the Nuggets didn't let Bruce Brown go to the other team, I would say the Nuggets are the new dynasty. I don't have any idea why they let go of the piece who made a good contribution during their playoff run. Well, they might have a good plan, but they just sacrificed the team chemistry.
Nevertheless, the Nuggets could still be a good team even without him, they will just need to fill another piece that could perfectly complement the style of play Jokic and Murray brings to the team.
If I'm to be ask if the Nuggets could make a repeat? I would say 70% yes, until I can find a team in the upcoming regular season that eventually worked out after rebuilding.

If the same competitiveness that they will bring the chance is still high for the Nuggets to defend their title, they still have the same core
and even Brown already been traded the possibility that they can fill that space again is not by far.

Having Jokic, Murray and Gordon healthy will allow the competitiveness to continue, with a good two-way role player like Gordon, they've got a
good stopper and a finisher in one.

Though we all see that teams will not just sit and let the defending champion to easily take another title, it would be really interesting
to see what the new season will bring to every fan who loves supporting their teams.
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September 26, 2023, 11:33:02 PM
Even if a team on the west manages to beat Denver this year, which could be done because most teams are not three peat type of teams and just win it once (look at bucks for example) but that doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with East teams just letting whoever is the new west team to win that easily. If Suns ends up going to finals this year, they would still have to play against the team from the east and they may end up losing that as well, so its never guaranteed. I am hoping that it would be good to see a bunch of teams trying to end up good, its not good to have bad parity and just good teams at the top, 1-2 good teams and rest sucks would be terrible.

Yeah the east is getting better and at anytime the power can shift from the west back to the east and vice versa.  Who knows who is gonna have a breakout year or what these young guys are gonna do from one year to the next.  Anything could happen especially injuries which unfortunately shapes the league every year.

And if I'm not mistaken, it was supposedly the East that should dominate last season, with Giannis had a good run with the Bucks in the regular games. And also Boston Celtics, who has the formidable duo of Tatum and Brown and then former Celtic defensive specialist in Marcus Smart. And then the Sixers with Joel winning the MVP and James Harden at the helm.

But the Nuggets has total different mentally in the West. They take the lead, the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers falter with injuries and it seems the focus that time is Lebron breaking Kareem's record. So let's see if the East can bounce back again and win the NBA trophy for this season to even up.
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September 26, 2023, 05:37:03 PM
Even if a team on the west manages to beat Denver this year, which could be done because most teams are not three peat type of teams and just win it once (look at bucks for example) but that doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with East teams just letting whoever is the new west team to win that easily. If Suns ends up going to finals this year, they would still have to play against the team from the east and they may end up losing that as well, so its never guaranteed. I am hoping that it would be good to see a bunch of teams trying to end up good, its not good to have bad parity and just good teams at the top, 1-2 good teams and rest sucks would be terrible.

Yeah the east is getting better and at anytime the power can shift from the west back to the east and vice versa.  Who knows who is gonna have a breakout year or what these young guys are gonna do from one year to the next.  Anything could happen especially injuries which unfortunately shapes the league every year.
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September 26, 2023, 04:43:48 PM
And with the case of Howard, he had a good time in Taiwan, numbers are good and yet his team failed. P

Sure he had a good time but he treated it like a circus.
He took more 3 points shots in 1 game than in his whole NBA career. Of course if miraculously hit some but yet the overall % was underwhelming, haha.

He had problems with players that had a similar built and height as him, even in Taiwan.
And as we all know, his team came in dead last, not even close to the next position.
Yeah, no matter what he did it, he's paid and that's probably what he thought there that it's just like a showmatch and can't even go with the big men of other teams.

He struggled facing them honestly and he didn't just wanna go further on it. Well, can treat his stay there as a marketing purpose for the league.

About the preseason. The first 1 or 2 games of each team will be exiting since the teams mostly play all their stars before shutting them down for the rest of the games.
Players that participated in the world cup ( it's not many anyway ) maybe won't play I guess but the rest should be locked and loaded I expect.
They won't give their all in on the pre season games but at least we get to see the NBA is back in action again.
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We only see a few of those kinds of altercations in the NBA, and that adds to the excitement of the game, actually. Klay vs. Booker, there's no way I will side with Booker, even though he is the better player. Basketball is a team game, not an individual one. Booker may boast about his stats, but Klay will just remind him of his 4 rings. I think Booker needs to win a championship first.

If not for CP3, the Suns wouldn't be a playoff team, that's a fact.

Too bad KD is in the Suns this season and Booker couldn't prove anything as long as KD is there except by going into the NBA championship this season. anyway, if they can go to the playoffs and win against the Denver Nuggets if ever they happen to be fighting to get to the next round, then that would be a huge improvement for them because we all know after that, it would be easy games unless they gonna go against the GSW once again but this time without CP3 and that's the best game we will ever see in the NBA playoffs this season.

Winning against the Nuggets, I would say that's a major success already because the Nuggets are the defending champions. Their confidence will be overflowing if that happens. Of course, we cannot expect that other teams will be the same as last season; the Warriors and the Lakers will probably improve, and that makes their journey still unpredictable. CP3 is a good facilitator. I don't know if their individual offenses (Durant, Booker, and Beal) would be enough to make the team stronger now without CP3.

If individual talent will be able to align with the system that might work both within their offense and defense,

though it's really tough to combine individual talents most of the time they will either rely or take charge in each plays that they will going to call.

We can't conclude what can it be for the Suns till we don't see them playing all together,.

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September 26, 2023, 03:19:39 PM

We only see a few of those kinds of altercations in the NBA, and that adds to the excitement of the game, actually. Klay vs. Booker, there's no way I will side with Booker, even though he is the better player. Basketball is a team game, not an individual one. Booker may boast about his stats, but Klay will just remind him of his 4 rings. I think Booker needs to win a championship first.

If not for CP3, the Suns wouldn't be a playoff team, that's a fact.

Too bad KD is in the Suns this season and Booker couldn't prove anything as long as KD is there except by going into the NBA championship this season. anyway, if they can go to the playoffs and win against the Denver Nuggets if ever they happen to be fighting to get to the next round, then that would be a huge improvement for them because we all know after that, it would be easy games unless they gonna go against the GSW once again but this time without CP3 and that's the best game we will ever see in the NBA playoffs this season.

I don’t think the Warriors match up well against the Suns. I also don’t think the Suns match up well against the Nuggets. With all the super teams seemingly in the west this year, I believe the playoff bracket may be more important this year than in those previous. I still think there are probably only 6 teams that could win it all this year.
With Bradley Beal on Suns, I think it's a pretty good match up against the Warriors. But I imagine warriors beating Suns on outside shooting if Curry plays like a point god then it is over for the Suns with their weak Center. just saying.

Suns against Nuggets is ridiculous, Jokic will eat Ayton alive. I'm still rooting for the Nuggets this year!

I agree with your take that Jokic would outplay Ayton. I disagree that Ayton is a weak center that would be exploited by the Warriors though. I actually think Ayton would end up being the deciding factor in that series, as I think the Warriors are missing a piece in the middle that can determine the outcome of the game. We’ll have to see how Ayton looks this year though. Last year showed some regression in his skills, but that may have been a coaching issue.
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September 26, 2023, 03:17:27 PM
Even if a team on the west manages to beat Denver this year, which could be done because most teams are not three peat type of teams and just win it once (look at bucks for example) but that doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with East teams just letting whoever is the new west team to win that easily. If Suns ends up going to finals this year, they would still have to play against the team from the east and they may end up losing that as well, so its never guaranteed. I am hoping that it would be good to see a bunch of teams trying to end up good, its not good to have bad parity and just good teams at the top, 1-2 good teams and rest sucks would be terrible.

If the Nuggets didn't let Bruce Brown go to the other team, I would say the Nuggets are the new dynasty. I don't have any idea why they let go of the piece who made a good contribution during their playoff run. Well, they might have a good plan, but they just sacrificed the team chemistry.
Nevertheless, the Nuggets could still be a good team even without him, they will just need to fill another piece that could perfectly complement the style of play Jokic and Murray brings to the team.
If I'm to be ask if the Nuggets could make a repeat? I would say 70% yes, until I can find a team in the upcoming regular season that eventually worked out after rebuilding.
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