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September 04, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
James Harden's stats are still fine; he averaged 21 PPG last season. However, we didn't see a significant impact on the team, which is why we are a bit frustrated with him.

His PPG is significantly drop compared when he is on prime during his rockets days. His FG% is still averaging 44% which is same from before but his scoring potential drops significantly. This is important factor to be considered since this guy is known for no defense at all since his defense is his offense before.

He needs to step up with 76ers now that he already have Embiid that can penetrate inside easily.

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September 04, 2023, 10:44:09 AM

Don't ever think that they need harden on the rooster since they are good team already. Considering adding him might create a bad atmosphere on the team knowing his attitude is not good if he didn't get want. Mitchell might be a good addition to them if he became a team player and can able to share the ball with his team mates but if he always want the ball in his hands maybe this is another fall down for them.

The Suns right now are really a good team unless they are looking for more players to increase their probability of winning a championship without taking into account the consequences it may bring. They seem a misunderstand James Harden because all they talked about was his skills and they forgot the market value he would bring to the team, I think what he can give is more of what he can take because he will be using his 100% whenever he is in the new team.
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September 04, 2023, 10:39:03 AM
So it was like GSW and now Lakers also wants to step in with this potential trade that Giannis might ask in the future? AD is the one that they can trade for him. I don't think that's a worth trade for them just as what everyone is saying. He's just gonna get more injury and he won't be usable if the trade is done. Now, what if the Bucks will offer Giannis something that he can't decline? Then, it's really on him that he wants an exit to the team and wants to try something new that will make him explore with many options and play as well with other teams. Speaking of Giannis, his brother Alex signed and waived by Bucks as well. (Bucks sign and waive Alex Antetokounmpo, brother of Giannis, in apparent plan to keep him on G League team

Yeah, it all on him to decide, if by chance Bucks let him go for sure there are many teams that will be interested and will try all the possible offers that they can provide to see if they can acquire his service.
That's pretty sure when they give a hint that they're going to allow him to be released. Most of the teams are probably going to let go some of their key players just for Giannis to be taken. This is all about business and Giannis has that experience that every team needs and was also one of the pillars that have brought championship to the Bucks. Maybe some valid reason he'd say when the contract expires as he's honoring that.

While with the bucks, personally, you may not let your main alpha go without any valid reason or without any
try to keep him to stay, 2 years from now we will see what future will dictate for this issue, or maybe if by chance
it will be earlier if a problem happens or this rumor will continue to break relationship between Giannis and
the Bucks management.
He's not just too vulgar unlike with Harden. It's not about his attitude but there's something wrong with Harden's team and management but for Giannis, there's not much of an issue to be addressed for his expression of moving to another team.
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September 04, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
The present Harden is already a liability to any team that he gets into and worse is, he's not that kind of clutch anymore or can make some shots in crucial minutes/seconds because he is growing old already. I don't know what happened to him, I'm not that sure if it's his age but I do know that he's not that useful anymore.

Furthermore, any team that will get him might have the same situation like the Nets had and now the Sixers, I mean it's not that new anymore that he's too desperate to get a ring and would use his status, if it's any good, to go to a team that can give what he wanted. Suns don't probably want that.

James Harden's stats are still fine; he averaged 21 PPG last season. However, we didn't see a significant impact on the team, which is why we are a bit frustrated with him. I don't know if we can entirely blame him, as there are often chemistry issues within a team, especially when playing alongside a franchise player. It's different from his time with the Rockets when he was the best player and had the freedom to shoot whenever he wanted. With the Sixers, he's the second option, and it's even more challenging with the Nets, where Durant and Irving, who were both alphas on their previous teams, are also in the mix.
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September 04, 2023, 09:46:04 AM
Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of talk about the Suns trading Bradley Beal...  I don't even know if that's an option or something they would want, but I'm hearing names like Donovan Mitchell and James Harden.  I doubt the Suns would be willing to take on Harden as he's a huge risk and has already said he wants to be the number one option on whatever team he lands on, but Mitchell might be a legitimate option if they were trying to flip Beal.  I'd personally rather have Beal as I think he fits in better with other stars, but Mitchell is an elite player when it comes time to show it.

Mitchell would be a nice switch but doubt cavs would do that, and Harden just doesn't make any sense for the Suns.  Why would they already give up on Beal.  Where have ypu seen this chatter?  And last isn't there a set period of time that has to go by before he can be traded again?  If there is bad blood on that team already I'd be surprised.

Yes, that just don't make any sense because the Suns have poured enough resources to acquire Beal and then now they suddenly want to trade him so that they can make some space for Harden and Donovan. If it's Donovan, it would make sense but Harden? I don't think so. That man is already out of his prime, he can do some help but most of the time, he's just a star who is now a liability to any team that he lands on.

Well when they acquire Beal from the Wizards, it make no sense at all because of the huge contract that they have to inherit. But it seems the plan is to used him as leverage for future trade, for sure if there is a superstar that they want to trade, it won't be KD and not likely their franchise player in Booker.

So this is the only reason why the talks and the name of Beal suddenly pop up for a trade with Harden or even Donovan Mitchell. Sometimes it really doesn't make sense at all for teams to trade their superstars, it's a risk that the owners will have to take.

If it's Donovan Mitchell then I think it's worth it because acquiring Bradley Beal really hurt them because of his big contract like you've said, but I don't see any reasons why the Phoenix Suns would want to add James Harden in their roster, Mitchell would suffice. Harden's name might pop up in this rumored trade because of what he said against the Sixers but I don't think that it'll be a criteria for any team right now to acquire him because he's not that the same anymore.

Don't ever think that they need harden on the rooster since they are good team already. Considering adding him might create a bad atmosphere on the team knowing his attitude is not good if he didn't get want. Mitchell might be a good addition to them if he became a team player and can able to share the ball with his team mates but if he always want the ball in his hands maybe this is another fall down for them.

The present Harden is already a liability to any team that he gets into and worse is, he's not that kind of clutch anymore or can make some shots in crucial minutes/seconds because he is growing old already. I don't know what happened to him, I'm not that sure if it's his age but I do know that he's not that useful anymore.

Furthermore, any team that will get him might have the same situation like the Nets had and now the Sixers, I mean it's not that new anymore that he's too desperate to get a ring and would use his status, if it's any good, to go to a team that can give what he wanted. Suns don't probably want that.
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September 04, 2023, 09:04:05 AM
I don't know if this is right but if Giannis really wanted to be traded then that's the only way if they can get some good offer from the Lakers if the other teams cannot give them more players for Giannis and some good offers specifically for him. nevertheless, if the players wanted to get out from the team, the team like the 76ers would have nothing to do but accept their request since they might not want to play intensively anymore for that team.
So it was like GSW and now Lakers also wants to step in with this potential trade that Giannis might ask in the future? AD is the one that they can trade for him. I don't think that's a worth trade for them just as what everyone is saying. He's just gonna get more injury and he won't be usable if the trade is done. Now, what if the Bucks will offer Giannis something that he can't decline? Then, it's really on him that he wants an exit to the team and wants to try something new that will make him explore with many options and play as well with other teams. Speaking of Giannis, his brother Alex signed and waived by Bucks as well. (Bucks sign and waive Alex Antetokounmpo, brother of Giannis, in apparent plan to keep him on G League team

Yeah, it all on him to decide, if by chance Bucks let him go for sure there are many teams that will be interested and will try all the possible offers that they can provide to see if they can acquire his service.

While with the bucks, personally, you may not let your main alpha go without any valid reason or without any
try to keep him to stay, 2 years from now we will see what future will dictate for this issue, or maybe if by chance
it will be earlier if a problem happens or this rumor will continue to break relationship between Giannis and
the Bucks management.
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September 04, 2023, 08:49:15 AM
He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.
The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.


I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.

Maybe they are exploring about possibilities that might happen. But for now that's not possible to happen since for sure Bucks provably can do all just retain Giannis on their roster.

He is their main star so I'm sure that they can't afford to lose him since this could be a long drought to their team if that happen.
But I'm sure Giannis will stay and sill not go to other teak since he is the type of guy which is so committed on his team.
Yes, everything is still on the speculation phase, Giannis will still have to play the whole season and see how Bucks will go. Maybe what Giannis is feeling is that after their championship, they even had a hard time getting into the 2nd round of the playoffs.

And remember that Middleton and Holiday are going to be in their mid 30's. And Lopez too is in his 30's if I'm not mistaken. So the team is getting old and most likely this is what in the minds of Giannis rightn now that's why he said that he might leave the Bucks for another good team.
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September 04, 2023, 08:47:45 AM
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Philadelphia 76ers receive: Kyrie Irving

Dallas Mavericks receive: James Harden
I doubt this could happen, if it does, I will be totally surprised.
IMO, Mark Cuban liked Kyrie Irving on their roster. It will be difficult for him to let go of such a star who was just recently signed. And I think Kyrie is still a better option than Harden.
This trade would be mind blowing hehe. Just imagine what would happen if you exchange one player with diva tendencies with another one?
It will be hilarious. Grin Both have management problems and they have mood swings, so it will just be based on their skill on how the trade will come to an end, if ever.

That is a very interesting article. I like that kind of journalism for something so vague like trades. I also think the last one, Kyrie-Harden, trade is quite unlikely. And first two somehow possible. I think Spurs could trade KAT for everyone's sake. That trade would be beneficial for everyone. That is the one I'd like to actually see happen.
I wholeheartedly agree. I want to see KAT somewhere else. He had been wearing the Timberwolves jersey for a long time but we don't really see a surprising improvement on their team. I thought it would be different when Anthony Edwards landed on them but it's not that big of a change.
A Spurs jersey might be a good change for him especially with Pops on his side which has a good record for building big men to reach the top of the rankings.
KAT has the skills, he can shoot too, but it seems like the spotlight of Timberwolves is focused on Edwards now and not him.
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September 04, 2023, 08:46:43 AM
He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.
The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.


I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.

Maybe they are exploring about possibilities that might happen. But for now that's not possible to happen since for sure Bucks provably can do all just retain Giannis on their roster.

He is their main star so I'm sure that they can't afford to lose him since this could be a long drought to their team if that happen.
But I'm sure Giannis will stay and sill not go to other teak since he is the type of guy which is so committed on his team.

They cannot retain a player if they are already asking to be traded, just like what happened with Lillard and Harden; they will surely get traded because there's no reason to keep them when they are not 100% dedicated to playing for the team. Things have changed a lot; players now can dictate trades and exert pressure on team management. So, at the end of the day, their desires are often followed because teams don't want to miss the chance to compete for a championship with players who are fully committed.
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September 04, 2023, 08:36:05 AM
He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.
The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.


I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.

Maybe they are exploring about possibilities that might happen. But for now that's not possible to happen since for sure Bucks provably can do all just retain Giannis on their roster.

He is their main star so I'm sure that they can't afford to lose him since this could be a long drought to their team if that happen.
But I'm sure Giannis will stay and sill not go to other teak since he is the type of guy which is so committed on his team.
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September 04, 2023, 08:04:02 AM
I don't know if this is right but if Giannis really wanted to be traded then that's the only way if they can get some good offer from the Lakers if the other teams cannot give them more players for Giannis and some good offers specifically for him. nevertheless, if the players wanted to get out from the team, the team like the 76ers would have nothing to do but accept their request since they might not want to play intensively anymore for that team.
So it was like GSW and now Lakers also wants to step in with this potential trade that Giannis might ask in the future? AD is the one that they can trade for him. I don't think that's a worth trade for them just as what everyone is saying. He's just gonna get more injury and he won't be usable if the trade is done. Now, what if the Bucks will offer Giannis something that he can't decline? Then, it's really on him that he wants an exit to the team and wants to try something new that will make him explore with many options and play as well with other teams. Speaking of Giannis, his brother Alex signed and waived by Bucks as well. (Bucks sign and waive Alex Antetokounmpo, brother of Giannis, in apparent plan to keep him on G League team
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September 04, 2023, 07:08:56 AM
Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of talk about the Suns trading Bradley Beal...  I don't even know if that's an option or something they would want, but I'm hearing names like Donovan Mitchell and James Harden.  I doubt the Suns would be willing to take on Harden as he's a huge risk and has already said he wants to be the number one option on whatever team he lands on, but Mitchell might be a legitimate option if they were trying to flip Beal.  I'd personally rather have Beal as I think he fits in better with other stars, but Mitchell is an elite player when it comes time to show it.

Mitchell would be a nice switch but doubt cavs would do that, and Harden just doesn't make any sense for the Suns.  Why would they already give up on Beal.  Where have ypu seen this chatter?  And last isn't there a set period of time that has to go by before he can be traded again?  If there is bad blood on that team already I'd be surprised.

Yes, that just don't make any sense because the Suns have poured enough resources to acquire Beal and then now they suddenly want to trade him so that they can make some space for Harden and Donovan. If it's Donovan, it would make sense but Harden? I don't think so. That man is already out of his prime, he can do some help but most of the time, he's just a star who is now a liability to any team that he lands on.

Well when they acquire Beal from the Wizards, it make no sense at all because of the huge contract that they have to inherit. But it seems the plan is to used him as leverage for future trade, for sure if there is a superstar that they want to trade, it won't be KD and not likely their franchise player in Booker.

So this is the only reason why the talks and the name of Beal suddenly pop up for a trade with Harden or even Donovan Mitchell. Sometimes it really doesn't make sense at all for teams to trade their superstars, it's a risk that the owners will have to take.

If it's Donovan Mitchell then I think it's worth it because acquiring Bradley Beal really hurt them because of his big contract like you've said, but I don't see any reasons why the Phoenix Suns would want to add James Harden in their roster, Mitchell would suffice. Harden's name might pop up in this rumored trade because of what he said against the Sixers but I don't think that it'll be a criteria for any team right now to acquire him because he's not that the same anymore.

Don't ever think that they need harden on the rooster since they are good team already. Considering adding him might create a bad atmosphere on the team knowing his attitude is not good if he didn't get want. Mitchell might be a good addition to them if he became a team player and can able to share the ball with his team mates but if he always want the ball in his hands maybe this is another fall down for them.
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September 04, 2023, 06:09:11 AM
Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of talk about the Suns trading Bradley Beal...  I don't even know if that's an option or something they would want, but I'm hearing names like Donovan Mitchell and James Harden.  I doubt the Suns would be willing to take on Harden as he's a huge risk and has already said he wants to be the number one option on whatever team he lands on, but Mitchell might be a legitimate option if they were trying to flip Beal.  I'd personally rather have Beal as I think he fits in better with other stars, but Mitchell is an elite player when it comes time to show it.

Mitchell would be a nice switch but doubt cavs would do that, and Harden just doesn't make any sense for the Suns.  Why would they already give up on Beal.  Where have ypu seen this chatter?  And last isn't there a set period of time that has to go by before he can be traded again?  If there is bad blood on that team already I'd be surprised.

Yes, that just don't make any sense because the Suns have poured enough resources to acquire Beal and then now they suddenly want to trade him so that they can make some space for Harden and Donovan. If it's Donovan, it would make sense but Harden? I don't think so. That man is already out of his prime, he can do some help but most of the time, he's just a star who is now a liability to any team that he lands on.

Well when they acquire Beal from the Wizards, it make no sense at all because of the huge contract that they have to inherit. But it seems the plan is to used him as leverage for future trade, for sure if there is a superstar that they want to trade, it won't be KD and not likely their franchise player in Booker.

So this is the only reason why the talks and the name of Beal suddenly pop up for a trade with Harden or even Donovan Mitchell. Sometimes it really doesn't make sense at all for teams to trade their superstars, it's a risk that the owners will have to take.

If it's Donovan Mitchell then I think it's worth it because acquiring Bradley Beal really hurt them because of his big contract like you've said, but I don't see any reasons why the Phoenix Suns would want to add James Harden in their roster, Mitchell would suffice. Harden's name might pop up in this rumored trade because of what he said against the Sixers but I don't think that it'll be a criteria for any team right now to acquire him because he's not that the same anymore.
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September 04, 2023, 04:15:03 AM
He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.
The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.


I'm curious now because, as far as I know, Giannis was rumored not to re-sign with the Bucks once he becomes a free agent. So, why are we discussing a possible trade here? I also gave my opinion about the potential trade, but now I realize that, is the trade really going to happen?

Since there are no trade rumors, all the discussions about which team could potentially land Giannis and which players would be exchanged for him don't make sense.

Perhaps the more appropriate discussion is which team could potentially sign Giannis in the upcoming offseason.
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September 04, 2023, 02:18:05 AM
He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.
The Bucks don't want him. PERIOD.

Can Davis be the franchise player of the Bucks? How can you put your trust into a player who's injury prone, and anytime, there's a chance that he might be out for the whole season? If healthy, he is a double-double machine, and one of the best bigs out there, but there's an "IF" on it. His performance last season is pretty well. Lesser injuries, and played well, but still there are still doubts if he can sustain to play that way knowing that he's been injured, and play only a few games for a number of years in the past.

The Bucks don't want to risk getting Davis for Giannis, and they will rather find another team that can give them better players than the Lakers. I believe those who has many draft picks are the ones that has the highest chance in getting him.

I don’t think the Bucks will trade him. They have to get every game out of him they can before they fade back into irrelevance. Giannis doesn’t want to be traded either. He wants to run out his contract and then sign with a major contender to create a super team. I think Golden State makes all the sense in the world, or maybe the Lakers if they were able to dump AD or something happens to Bron.
For now, Giannis might not to get traded, but like he said in an interview, if he sees that the management isn't going to a point where they don't want to win a title, then he will be opting out, and will not sign that extension.

The brother knows that he has a huge value, and many teams are interested in him if he don't sign the contract. That confidence is at it's highest, but we know what a player like him can contribute to any team that he will go. Golden State? Lakers? I respect your opinion, but I have a different one. I'd rather pick the Thunder, or the Spurs as the ones who has a higher chance in getting him.

Assuming that he will be traded, the Bucks will go into a rebuilding phase, picking some draft picks, and some good players. Bucks don't have young players right now aside from Giannis, and some bench players, so if they will trade Giannis, it would be better if they will just get younger players that has a talent. I'd rather go for the Thunder. The Thunder can just give Holmgren, Giddey, some role players, and draft picks just to get Giannis. That would be a better trade for the Bucks. It's a win-win for both teams because just imagine SGA, and Giannis in one team. I just watched it online, and it seems good.
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September 03, 2023, 07:35:51 PM

He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.

I don't know if this is right but if Giannis really wanted to be traded then that's the only way if they can get some good offer from the Lakers if the other teams cannot give them more players for Giannis and some good offers specifically for him. nevertheless, if the players wanted to get out from the team, the team like the 76ers would have nothing to do but accept their request since they might not want to play intensively anymore for that team.

Nothing will happen to them if they push a player to play with them if he's not for the team anymore. But I believe Giannis case is different since he just like his team to be more competent and will not rely on current situations or asset that they have. This is a good move made by him since he might know if Bucks do something to win another championship again and if they want to retain him .

I don’t think the Bucks will trade him. They have to get every game out of him they can before they fade back into irrelevance. Giannis doesn’t want to be traded either. He wants to run out his contract and then sign with a major contender to create a super team. I think Golden State makes all the sense in the world, or maybe the Lakers if they were able to dump AD or something happens to Bron.
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September 03, 2023, 07:08:02 PM

He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.

I don't know if this is right but if Giannis really wanted to be traded then that's the only way if they can get some good offer from the Lakers if the other teams cannot give them more players for Giannis and some good offers specifically for him. nevertheless, if the players wanted to get out from the team, the team like the 76ers would have nothing to do but accept their request since they might not want to play intensively anymore for that team.

Nothing will happen to them if they push a player to play with them if he's not for the team anymore. But I believe Giannis case is different since he just like his team to be more competent and will not rely on current situations or asset that they have. This is a good move made by him since he might know if Bucks do something to win another championship again and if they want to retain him .
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September 03, 2023, 07:01:49 PM

He's not a good player to trade for Giannis. There's no question that Davis is talented, but it's a big gamble for the Bucks to accept Davis because he's known to be injury-prone. While we're not hoping he will get injured, history has shown that he has been plagued by injuries most of the time. This is also the reason he was traded to the Lakers from the Pelicans.

I don't know if this is right but if Giannis really wanted to be traded then that's the only way if they can get some good offer from the Lakers if the other teams cannot give them more players for Giannis and some good offers specifically for him. nevertheless, if the players wanted to get out from the team, the team like the 76ers would have nothing to do but accept their request since they might not want to play intensively anymore for that team.
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September 03, 2023, 05:42:50 PM
Giannis is not that different and he thinks that it's much better that way rather than to be called as a star player with no history in the league. And indeed, duplicating what they did in the past couple of years will be hard to them because the league has improved along with its teams.

We certainly cannot blame him if he doesn't want to play as a hypocrite because in this industry, let's be real, you might be a superstar but you sure cannot make your name unforgettable to the people specially to the future generations if you don't have that much achievements and cannot win more rings along with the team of your choosing. The era today is already very different to the era that we've known and today, it's not that surprising anymore to see star players requesting a trade to get strong chances.

Not surprising at all, Star needs more stars to win a title, and Giannis just wanted to be practical, without the support he needs that
chance of winning another title is far from reality.

I like that opinion of being practical, if the managements can't give him the squad who can win a title then
better to find the place where the management will grant that request and risk that budget for the sake
of winning the title.
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September 03, 2023, 05:11:31 PM
There is also a wild speculation on Giannis, him and Anthony Davis of LA Lakers for a 1:1 trade? I'm not sure though if the Lakers are going to make this trade, but for me this make sense. AD is already fragile and we all know that it was a cringe to watch him attempting to get rebounds or block shot as he might get injured once he lands down. This is just speculation though. Everything though depends on the performance of the Buck and Giannis, or maybe this is a sign that they might not be as good as the previous years as everyone for sure have heard about Giannis comments and it might have crack the relationship of the team right now.

I would love to see Giannis and LeBron play together. They can be a pretty good duo, combined with LeBron's experience and Giannis' athletic performance, we can watch a very good game.
But I don't know how necessary or how logical it would be to make this transfer. It doesn't look like it will be very profitable for the Bucks. anyway, this is just a rumor, I don't think the chance of such a thing to be true is very high Smiley
Yeah, even if they offer Anthony Davis I doubt the Milwaukee Bucks will accept that kind of trade especially because of the history of injuries of AD. Giannis is a man with talent, height, body, and speed. It's difficult to find someone who will be equal to the trade. They may have to wait for his contract to expire but I doubt Lebron will still be in the Lakers. Maybe in the management section.

Anyway, Bleacher Report made an article about a more realistic trade that could happen.
Realistic Trades That Would Shock the NBA In 2023-24
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10087884-realistic-trades-that-would-shock-the-nba-in-2023-24

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Chicago Bulls receive: Trae Young and Garrison Mathews

Atlanta Hawks receive: Lonzo Ball, Patrick Williams, Coby White, Dalen Terry, 2027 first-round pick, 2029 first-round pick and 2028 first-round pick swap
Yes, it could happen. Trae Young is a point guard and there are so many guards in the league right now so trading him will be easy for the Atlanta Hawks considering they still have DeJounte Murray to keep the play.

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San Antonio Spurs receive: Karl-Anthony Towns

Minnesota Timberwolves receive: Keldon Johnson, Devonte' Graham, Cameron Payne, 2024 first-round pick (top-six-protected, via TOR) and 2025 first-round pick (via ATL)
KAT is inconsistent and with the Ant-Man on the Minnesota Timberwolves, they can rebuild and surround him with good players. It's possible.

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Philadelphia 76ers receive: Kyrie Irving

Dallas Mavericks receive: James Harden
I doubt this could happen, if it does, I will be totally surprised.
IMO, Mark Cuban liked Kyrie Irving on their roster. It will be difficult for him to let go of such a star who was just recently signed. And I think Kyrie is still a better option than Harden.
That is a very interesting article. I like that kind of journalism for something so vague like trades. I also think the last one, Kyrie-Harden, trade is quite unlikely. And first two somehow possible. I think Spurs could trade KAT for everyone's sake. That trade would be beneficial for everyone. That is the one I'd like to actually see happen.

On the first subject, I don't want to watch an NBA with Lebron and Giannis on the same team. They are both alpha dogs and franchise players. Giannis is not like AD. That should just not happen. And it will most probably not because of AD being easily injured. Thankfully.
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