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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 02, 2023, 08:17:03 PM

Just to stretch the details about the "MrBeast" news. I don't know why he picked the Hornets but this will be a good one for them.

I don't know exactly how much this kind of jersey-patch partnership costs, but I assume he probably didn't have much of a choice. Most likely, the more popular teams are no longer available to new sponsors because they already have long-term partnerships with big brands. However, it's really cool that an influencer like MrBeast can promote himself this way.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 02, 2023, 10:28:33 AM

James Harden skipped media day… The 76ers are finding themselves in quite a bind. Will Harden sit out the season? I can’t recall a playing having done that before over contract disputes. Maybe Pippen with his surgery right before the season…

Isn't that what Ben Simmons did? I am not sure about the details though.

Quote from: OgNasty on October 02, 2023, 10:28:33 AM

EDIT:
MrBeast sponsoring the Charlotte Hornets is wild…

Just to stretch the details about the "MrBeast" news. I don't know why he picked the Hornets but this will be a good one for them.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38547974/hornets-launch-jersey-patch-deal-influencer-mrbeast

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The Charlotte Hornets are launching a jersey-patch partnership with YouTube and social media sensation MrBeast, a novel entrée between an influencer and an NBA franchise.

MrBeast -- whose real name is Jimmy Donaldson -- will advertise his Feastables logo on the Hornets' uniforms and media backdrops for news conferences, the team said on Monday.

How about this?

Media Day Jimmy Buckets. Grin

Nice hairstyle.
I'm trying to figure out a Hollywood artist from a certain movie that he looks like. Was it from the Blade? Wesley Snipes? Cheesy

This is the first time I saw Jimmy have that kind of hair and it's somehow unusual. If he didn't wear that Miami Heat outfit, I might not recognize him.

Yes, give me a chuckle seeing Jimmy with that kind of hair style, and some of his team mates are also laughing like Bam because they are somewhat confused just like the rest of us. Lol. He said that he is emo right now, and there are interview about him saying goodluck to Dame and the Bucks but he is still going to beat them.

However, I don't think that he will have that kind of hair during the game itself, it's going to bother him. So this is just maybe for publicity stunt and so we can talk about him with this kind of hair.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on October 02, 2023, 01:28:41 PM

I do agree that its not going to ending up with trying to move it all the time. Kevin Garnett and some other people talked about it on their podcast and basically said that you do not get infinite wiggles. Any team that could get him will not want him because they will know that he may want to leave in the end so they will not want to pay much for him. Anyone who gets Harden and one that plays well too, would be happy to have him and should trade a lot for him, but at the same time they all know that Harden could be just making a big trouble for him and should not be really doing anything that would be reasonable if they kept doing that. So all in all his value is incredibly low and no team would get him at any point for the time being.

With the way he's showing his attitude, I think team owners are not willing to let their respective team to be break out just to
acquire him, if you are not sure with the commitment a player can bring to your team, then why bother to trade your players right?

I guess it will be difficult for him to find another team to sign him up unless there's another star who'll ask for a trade and have the same or almost
same value as Harden.

If there's none, he will be ending up playing with the current team who's handling his contract, else he will be penalized for not cooperating with them.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 02, 2023, 10:28:33 AM

James Harden skipped media day… The 76ers are finding themselves in quite a bind. Will Harden sit out the season? I can’t recall a playing having done that before over contract disputes. Maybe Pippen with his surgery right before the season…

^ I don't know. But the indications that we are currently getting definitely do not suggest anything positive in my opinion. I don't know if he is going to sit out the season or not. I hope he will not do that. But at the same time, he is definitely not happy with the situation. Is it just me or does anyone else think that players right now are getting a little too cocky? As you said, we have not seen something like this happen before. At least I have never seen anything like this happening. Let's see what happens.

TBH, there's a chance that he might sit out knowing that he really don't want to play with the Sixers anymore.
He's the only one that's cocky right now. He isn't as great as Lillard, and no team wants him in their team that's why he isn't get traded until now. Lillard already find his home, while Harden on the other hand is still out there hoping that he will get traded.

His ego is just too high. He don't want to play with the Sixers, but at the same time, no team wants him. This will affect his value at the end of his contract. He has no choice, but to play with the Sixers. With only few days remaining until the start of the season, I don't think that Harden will be traded to another team. I guess I'll be readying my popcorn, and wait for the next chapter of Harden Saga. Will he get traded? Will he stay with the Sixers? If he stays, will he play there knowing that he already said that he will not play under Daryl Morey? Let's just wait.

Quote from: danherbias07 on October 02, 2023, 08:17:03 PM

How about this?

Media Day Jimmy Buckets. Grin

Nice hairstyle.
I'm trying to figure out a Hollywood artist from a certain movie that he looks like. Was it from the Blade? Wesley Snipes? Cheesy

This is the first time I saw Jimmy have that kind of hair and it's somehow unusual. If he didn't wear that Miami Heat outfit, I might not recognize him.

From a braided hair last season, to now Emo one.
This will be his trade mark for sure. New season, new hair cut, and TBH it's quite funny knowing that hairstyle like that isn't as popular as it is years ago. Cheesy

Funny hair.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 02, 2023, 10:28:33 AM

James Harden skipped media day… The 76ers are finding themselves in quite a bind. Will Harden sit out the season? I can’t recall a playing having done that before over contract disputes. Maybe Pippen with his surgery right before the season…

Isn't that what Ben Simmons did? I am not sure about the details though.

Quote from: OgNasty on October 02, 2023, 10:28:33 AM

EDIT:
MrBeast sponsoring the Charlotte Hornets is wild…

Just to stretch the details about the "MrBeast" news. I don't know why he picked the Hornets but this will be a good one for them.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38547974/hornets-launch-jersey-patch-deal-influencer-mrbeast

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The Charlotte Hornets are launching a jersey-patch partnership with YouTube and social media sensation MrBeast, a novel entrée between an influencer and an NBA franchise.

MrBeast -- whose real name is Jimmy Donaldson -- will advertise his Feastables logo on the Hornets' uniforms and media backdrops for news conferences, the team said on Monday.

How about this?

Media Day Jimmy Buckets. Grin

Nice hairstyle.
I'm trying to figure out a Hollywood artist from a certain movie that he looks like. Was it from the Blade? Wesley Snipes? Cheesy

This is the first time I saw Jimmy have that kind of hair and it's somehow unusual. If he didn't wear that Miami Heat outfit, I might not recognize him.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on October 02, 2023, 01:28:41 PM

I do agree that its not going to ending up with trying to move it all the time. Kevin Garnett and some other people talked about it on their podcast and basically said that you do not get infinite wiggles. Any team that could get him will not want him because they will know that he may want to leave in the end so they will not want to pay much for him. Anyone who gets Harden and one that plays well too, would be happy to have him and should trade a lot for him, but at the same time they all know that Harden could be just making a big trouble for him and should not be really doing anything that would be reasonable if they kept doing that. So all in all his value is incredibly low and no team would get him at any point for the time being.

Wouldn't it be nice if we start seeing Harden getting paid minimum vet salary or him offering huge pay cuts so teams would actually take him? I mean it's going to happen anyway unless he retires early but I still want to see it hehe. Being served some humble pie would probably knock some sense to other players who over value themselves.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 01, 2023, 07:16:30 PM

I don't know why this surprised you since rumors of Blazers trading Jrue has started right after the Dame trade and Celtics has been mentioned as top destination mainly because of his defensive abilities.

I think what surprised me the most was Robert Williams III being traded considering how good he played last year. I thought he was going to be part of the Celtics team wearing a green jersey for a long time in his career since it's hard to find a center who can play like him, especially on the defensive end. It looks like general manager Brad Stevens is aiming for the "win now" motto. Their roster is probably the best one today when we talk about back-court players. JB and JT can save their energy if they have a defensive guard in their team, not that I am underestimating Marcus Smart when he was there.
I actually predicted that it would be the Bulls who would try to get Jrue Holiday since they are the ones who are desperately looking for a guard who can make plays.
Anyway, the trade is done so there's no use thinking about it anymore. But that's a sweet offer by the Celtics that the Trail Blazers would have a hard time declining. Cheesy

The weirder part is that Celtics already has a good defender guard, not like they needed Jrue for any reason at all and for some reason they gave a position that they were lacking to get a player that they were not needing. I believe that was a big big mistake but they are going to end up trying to see how it goes.

I believe that Celtics hasn't been good for a while and that should not really change anything for the time being, they will keep on being not that great. That finals run was a good thing but if a team gets as bad as they did after a finals run that easily, then it feels like maybe they are not really doing a good job of it at all. I know that life is not all that simple and maybe they will turn things around but I doubt that would be the case with trades like these, they need to do a lot better.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 02, 2023, 10:28:33 AM

James Harden skipped media day… The 76ers are finding themselves in quite a bind. Will Harden sit out the season? I can’t recall a playing having done that before over contract disputes. Maybe Pippen with his surgery right before the season…

EDIT:
MrBeast sponsoring the Charlotte Hornets is wild…

I can't remember a contract holdout because someone wanted to trade. You watch him get blackmailed right out of basketball. Owners aren't going to want to sign this dude up to a contract. He better be careful on how he proceeds to a certain degree I think these owners have a gentleman's agreement of some sort for these types of things so it doesn't become the norm.

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I do agree that its not going to ending up with trying to move it all the time. Kevin Garnett and some other people talked about it on their podcast and basically said that you do not get infinite wiggles. Any team that could get him will not want him because they will know that he may want to leave in the end so they will not want to pay much for him. Anyone who gets Harden and one that plays well too, would be happy to have him and should trade a lot for him, but at the same time they all know that Harden could be just making a big trouble for him and should not be really doing anything that would be reasonable if they kept doing that. So all in all his value is incredibly low and no team would get him at any point for the time being.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 02, 2023, 10:28:33 AM

James Harden skipped media day… The 76ers are finding themselves in quite a bind. Will Harden sit out the season? I can’t recall a playing having done that before over contract disputes. Maybe Pippen with his surgery right before the season…

^ I don't know. But the indications that we are currently getting definitely do not suggest anything positive in my opinion. I don't know if he is going to sit out the season or not. I hope he will not do that. But at the same time, he is definitely not happy with the situation. Is it just me or does anyone else think that players right now are getting a little too cocky? As you said, we have not seen something like this happen before. At least I have never seen anything like this happening. Let's see what happens.

My thoughts exactly. Players are getting more and more ridiculous every year. Harden is unfortunately quite spoiled in these issues and he is the one being unreasonable. It is just too much. What kind of legacy he can left with this career. Consistency is also one of the key aspects of a super star. I don't think he has good consistency at all. I find his talents and style quite good but his attitude is terrible. Such a waste of talent. He could be one of the most important stars of the league but just because these drama, his career will probably not be remembered fondly.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 02, 2023, 10:28:33 AM

James Harden skipped media day… The 76ers are finding themselves in quite a bind. Will Harden sit out the season? I can’t recall a playing having done that before over contract disputes. Maybe Pippen with his surgery right before the season…

^ I don't know. But the indications that we are currently getting definitely do not suggest anything positive in my opinion. I don't know if he is going to sit out the season or not. I hope he will not do that. But at the same time, he is definitely not happy with the situation. Is it just me or does anyone else think that players right now are getting a little too cocky? As you said, we have not seen something like this happen before. At least I have never seen anything like this happening. Let's see what happens.

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James Harden skipped media day… The 76ers are finding themselves in quite a bind. Will Harden sit out the season? I can’t recall a playing having done that before over contract disputes. Maybe Pippen with his surgery right before the season…

EDIT:
MrBeast sponsoring the Charlotte Hornets is wild…

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Could be better if he will retire already. He has one heck of a career during his prime years with the Clippers. But he is also a case wherein a injury can ruin someone's career. He was a high flyer during his prime and one of the best dunkers we have seen, he is very athletic when he started his career. Unfortunately, it was just pure show during the Clippers with him and CP3 and a prime DJordan. Wasn't enough to be in the finals in the West.

He will always be remembered as one of the great dunkers in NBA history because of those explosive dunks and posterizers he made during his prime and to consider retiring this year is not a bad idea. if only injury hadn't struck him in his early NBA career, he could become a threat and probably brought the Clippers to the NBA finals and competed for the championship but they were always left behind and lost in the NBA playoffs even with CP3 with them. nevertheless, if he is still healthy this season, he could be a big help for Celtics but I guess that's not the case anymore.

I honestly do not understand why there are many NBA superstars that continue to play even in their past prime and even if they are already in their late 30s. They were worth millions of dollars in the past and now they are getting minimum salaries that are actually peanuts from their previous contracts. I doubt they are financially unstable but it'll be too sad if they end up in bad financial situations reason why they continue to play.

Maybe they can play in other leagues with less pressure if they enjoy it. At least in the case of Dwight Howard in Taiwan, he was really given the playing time unlike sitting in the bench. But in the NBA, it's not like you're only on the bench two or three times a week. In the NBA it's like only 1 to 3 days of rest per week since even if they are not traveling for hours or have homecourt games, they need to attend regular team practice and team events.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 02, 2023, 06:12:47 AM

Quote from: Yogee on October 01, 2023, 07:16:30 PM

I don't know why this surprised you since rumors of Blazers trading Jrue has started right after the Dame trade and Celtics has been mentioned as top destination mainly because of his defensive abilities.

I think what surprised me the most was Robert Williams III being traded considering how good he played last year. I thought he was going to be part of the Celtics team wearing a green jersey for a long time in his career since it's hard to find a center who can play like him, especially on the defensive end. It looks like general manager Brad Stevens is aiming for the "win now" motto. Their roster is probably the best one today when we talk about back-court players. JB and JT can save their energy if they have a defensive guard in their team, not that I am underestimating Marcus Smart when he was there.
I actually predicted that it would be the Bulls who would try to get Jrue Holiday since they are the ones who are desperately looking for a guard who can make plays.
Anyway, the trade is done so there's no use thinking about it anymore. But that's a sweet offer by the Celtics that the Trail Blazers would have a hard time declining. Cheesy

I think the decision was just right as they had already acquired a versatile big which is Porzingis. I looked at their current roster and I can see that they have Centers that could fill the gap, so I think the management are ensuring to improve their offense, as more offensive threat from the team is more effective.

https://www.espn.ph/nba/team/roster/_/name/bos/boston-celtics

Here; the centers are

Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis
Al Horford.

I think they are still loaded.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 01, 2023, 07:16:30 PM

I don't know why this surprised you since rumors of Blazers trading Jrue has started right after the Dame trade and Celtics has been mentioned as top destination mainly because of his defensive abilities.

I think what surprised me the most was Robert Williams III being traded considering how good he played last year. I thought he was going to be part of the Celtics team wearing a green jersey for a long time in his career since it's hard to find a center who can play like him, especially on the defensive end. It looks like general manager Brad Stevens is aiming for the "win now" motto. Their roster is probably the best one today when we talk about back-court players. JB and JT can save their energy if they have a defensive guard in their team, not that I am underestimating Marcus Smart when he was there.
I actually predicted that it would be the Bulls who would try to get Jrue Holiday since they are the ones who are desperately looking for a guard who can make plays.
Anyway, the trade is done so there's no use thinking about it anymore. But that's a sweet offer by the Celtics that the Trail Blazers would have a hard time declining. Cheesy

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on October 01, 2023, 11:48:49 AM

Wow Boston just landed jrue holiday for a couple picks and so.e bench pieces (I like Robert Williams a lot though). That's a great pick up from Boston. Now I need to see the Bucks and Boston play, those games will be fun to watch.

Low key Portland is stacking 2028-20230 first round picks. If these kids end up good and Blazers are a top team in the west by the end of the decade they are gonna have some serious draft capital to play with. Great move all around.

Boston management just plain knows what they’re doing when it comes to making trades and signing players. Other than the Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving disasters, their record has been phenomenal. This deal puts them back up with the top tier teams in the East. A great pickup for them and a nice side effect to the Lillard trade.

Yeah, they lost Marcus Smart and Rob Williams, but they were able to get Jrue and then KP. So they are still in the top tier of the Eastern conference together with the Bucks. So it's going to be a good fight for the top spot in the East and it will be amazing to see this two fighting it out.

So great move and hopefully it will translate to something like the Celtics rejuvenated this season even if they lost their lead in Marcus Smart. It's just funny though that Miami, the first team that Dame wanted to play has end up nothing. But they have stack up future picks and so as what we have thought, they are in the rebuilding phase for the next 3-5 years.

Heat would like Damian Lillard to go there, but the Bucks made it happen and managed to bring Dame to Milwaukee

Regarding the Celtics, I believe that the team completely rebuilt itself, Willians and Smart left, but on the other hand Jrue and KP went to Boston.
I even believe that the Blazers made an interesting negotiation, Brogdon and Willians are good players and they also acquired draft picks for the next seasons... I believe that the Blazers are thinking about the future and a possible major restructuring of the team in the next years

And the Bucks are still not done with their acquisition as they get Cam Payne from Phoenix with a 1 year deal.

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The Milwaukee Bucks are signing former Sun point guard Cameron Payne to a one-year contract, a story broken by Shams Charania of The Athletic.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/bucks-sign-point-guard-cameron-payne-to-one-year-contract

And obviously, he will be a back up guard with the Bucks, Lillard will be the primary for sure and then Payne coming to replace him as just what he did with CP3 and him at Phoenix. For sure they are also banking on Cam as he got plenty of experience as well from CP3 as he is the mentor. So let's see how far he can stretch the guard position, maybe contributing around 10 points as average will be good enough for Milwaukee as the bulk of their offense will be Dame and Giannis.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on October 01, 2023, 11:48:49 AM

Wow Boston just landed jrue holiday for a couple picks and so.e bench pieces (I like Robert Williams a lot though). That's a great pick up from Boston. Now I need to see the Bucks and Boston play, those games will be fun to watch.

It's great that they landed Jrue Holiday. They needed a player who can step up in clutch moments and also play good defense. Losing Smart is okay because they have Jrue Holiday now. This guy is not only good in defense but can also attack the paint and shoot from outside. He will be a great addition to the team, and Boston will surely benefit from his experience as a champion.

However, losing Malcolm Brogdon and center Rob Williams is significant, especially Rob Williams, who is a good rim protector.

I'm not sure what their plan is here, but getting Holiday required sacrificing a bit of their lineup. Let's see how it goes.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on October 01, 2023, 11:48:49 AM

Wow Boston just landed jrue holiday for a couple picks and so.e bench pieces (I like Robert Williams a lot though). That's a great pick up from Boston. Now I need to see the Bucks and Boston play, those games will be fun to watch.

Low key Portland is stacking 2028-20230 first round picks. If these kids end up good and Blazers are a top team in the west by the end of the decade they are gonna have some serious draft capital to play with. Great move all around.

Boston management just plain knows what they’re doing when it comes to making trades and signing players. Other than the Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving disasters, their record has been phenomenal. This deal puts them back up with the top tier teams in the East. A great pickup for them and a nice side effect to the Lillard trade.

The problem that I see though with the current Celtics roster is their inside defense.
I mean who are their big players right now? Porzingis, and a near-post prime player in Horford? What if Porzingis gets injured, and we know he's an injury-prone player? Who will help them defend the paint? Robert Williams is a great inside defender, and now they traded him alongside with Grant Williams, and Marcus Smart which are their best defenders.

Well, I don't see anything wrong with the trade. It's just that their inside defense is for me a concern. They got Holiday though to stop Dame because we know that the East is now Celtics-Bucks conference, but who will try to stop opponent's big players? I guess let's just see how this will come up. I mean the Warriors manage to win a title even though they don't have a legitimate center in their starting 5, so I guess the Celtics are trying to do the same as well.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 01, 2023, 01:37:05 PM

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on October 01, 2023, 11:48:49 AM

Wow Boston just landed jrue holiday for a couple picks and so.e bench pieces (I like Robert Williams a lot though). That's a great pick up from Boston. Now I need to see the Bucks and Boston play, those games will be fun to watch.

Low key Portland is stacking 2028-20230 first round picks. If these kids end up good and Blazers are a top team in the west by the end of the decade they are gonna have some serious draft capital to play with. Great move all around.

Boston management just plain knows what they’re doing when it comes to making trades and signing players. Other than the Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving disasters, their record has been phenomenal. This deal puts them back up with the top tier teams in the East. A great pickup for them and a nice side effect to the Lillard trade.

Yeah, they lost Marcus Smart and Rob Williams, but they were able to get Jrue and then KP. So they are still in the top tier of the Eastern conference together with the Bucks. So it's going to be a good fight for the top spot in the East and it will be amazing to see this two fighting it out.

So great move and hopefully it will translate to something like the Celtics rejuvenated this season even if they lost their lead in Marcus Smart. It's just funny though that Miami, the first team that Dame wanted to play has end up nothing. But they have stack up future picks and so as what we have thought, they are in the rebuilding phase for the next 3-5 years.

Heat would like Damian Lillard to go there, but the Bucks made it happen and managed to bring Dame to Milwaukee

Regarding the Celtics, I believe that the team completely rebuilt itself, Willians and Smart left, but on the other hand Jrue and KP went to Boston.
I even believe that the Blazers made an interesting negotiation, Brogdon and Willians are good players and they also acquired draft picks for the next seasons... I believe that the Blazers are thinking about the future and a possible major restructuring of the team in the next years

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on October 01, 2023, 11:48:49 AM

Wow Boston just landed jrue holiday for a couple picks and so.e bench pieces (I like Robert Williams a lot though). That's a great pick up from Boston. Now I need to see the Bucks and Boston play, those games will be fun to watch.

Low key Portland is stacking 2028-20230 first round picks. If these kids end up good and Blazers are a top team in the west by the end of the decade they are gonna have some serious draft capital to play with. Great move all around.

Boston management just plain knows what they’re doing when it comes to making trades and signing players. Other than the Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving disasters, their record has been phenomenal. This deal puts them back up with the top tier teams in the East. A great pickup for them and a nice side effect to the Lillard trade.

Yeah, they lost Marcus Smart and Rob Williams, but they were able to get Jrue and then KP. So they are still in the top tier of the Eastern conference together with the Bucks. So it's going to be a good fight for the top spot in the East and it will be amazing to see this two fighting it out.

So great move and hopefully it will translate to something like the Celtics rejuvenated this season even if they lost their lead in Marcus Smart. It's just funny though that Miami, the first team that Dame wanted to play has end up nothing. But they have stack up future picks and so as what we have thought, they are in the rebuilding phase for the next 3-5 years.

Yeah, and we know what Jrue can provide a 2-way star who can give out everything for the team,

I like his defense and the adjustments that he can take just to fit himself with the team, playing with young stars like Tatum and Brown,
they have a lot of time to build a good chemistry.

Now that the trade has been done, it's time to start forming a system that needed to be executed and plays that will fit both Jrue and KP
together with both Tatum and Brown, possible to see them in full working together to win a game.

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