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Quote from: btc_angela on October 05, 2023, 04:39:33 AM

They have Kuminga and Wiggins, and Klay didn't play power forward position as a Warriors. So I'm not really sure why you said that he will play that? Kerr is known to inject good adjustments in the game. And so with Green out for a at least a month, he could already have device a plan already with Dario Saric playing the PF/Center position.

It's too early to predict who is going to enter and who is going to exit, we haven't started the season yet. Just because Green is injured and won't be back for a month or shall we say 5 weeks means that they will exit the 2nd round or even not go to the playoffs.

Klay playing PF would not be all that terrible, he is a 6'7 guard and he could play the SG position if he wants to, but he could also play the SF position as we have seen, but since his injury, he hasn't been as fast as he used to be and he lacks all the lateral quickness that he used to have as well, which means that if he goes to PF position, which would be a weird experiment but at least an experiment, that would open up so many positions.

I still think that the best way for them to go with would be putting CP3 at PG, and Curry at SG, Klay at SF, Draymond at PF and find some center. Sure that means they are not using Wiggins and Kuminga at starters, or Kuminga at Center starter position maybe, but Wiggins could be a great sixth man that can replace any of those players and get as much as 25-30 minutes a game, sort of like Manu Ginobili.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 05, 2023, 11:45:49 AM

So finally the official NBA season starts. We are still in preseason though. Abu Dhabi, UAE is hosting the Mavericks and the Timberwolves. Very good team effort by the Wolves as they are leading double digits against the tandem of Luka and Kyrie. Edwards is still missing in action while Luka seems to be the only one scoring in his team with drama queen Kyrie still with zero points.

By the way, while the regular season is yet to start, is there anybody here playing NBA Fantasy on ESPN or Yahoo? I want to join a league but it should be serious to make it challenging and worth the time. Grin

I saw video of some NBA players playing Xbox in the desert. It seems like they’re having a good time over there. Speaking of international basketball, Joel Embiid has stated that he plans to play for team USA in the next Olympic Games. That seems a little weird to me considering he didn’t come to the US until later in life. A good addition to team USA though.

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So finally the official NBA season starts. We are still in preseason though. Abu Dhabi, UAE is hosting the Mavericks and the Timberwolves. Very good team effort by the Wolves as they are leading double digits against the tandem of Luka and Kyrie. Edwards is still missing in action while Luka seems to be the only one scoring in his team with drama queen Kyrie still with zero points.

By the way, while the regular season is yet to start, is there anybody here playing NBA Fantasy on ESPN or Yahoo? I want to join a league but it should be serious to make it challenging and worth the time. Grin

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I mean, it isn’t like he was cross dressing. He was just dressed in an emo style which he repeatedly had to say to the media. It’s an obvious joke and after the popularity of his dreadlock extensions last year you had to know this was coming. I’m sure this will be a staple in his career going forward as everyone seems to enjoy it.

Honestly, I don't think he's joking. Jimmy Butler was of course on the Chicago Bulls when he was drafted, so being a Bulls fan of course I got to know the guy a bit...he's an odd ball no question about it. He had a bit of an attitude problem and was just always sort of "different".

That being said my god thats an awful haircut lol

Jimmy Butler has to be trolling. And I kind of understand why he did this. He knew that this was going to make people talk about him a lot. And in this attention economy, that's what everybody wants. I am not saying what he did was right to get the attention. But it is what it is.

Right now James Harden is definitely having some trouble with his team. I hope they will be able to fix this. Otherwise, it is definitely not going to be very good for the morale of the team. But at the same time, if the team does not think that he is the best fit, what measures are going to be taken? And will the team give him what he wants?

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 05, 2023, 10:37:40 AM

Looks like this is going to be quite the life changing move for Damian Lillard. In addition to changing teams and moving to Milwaukee, he has also now filed for divorce from his wife. No idea if that will motivate him or cause him to have a terrible season, but one thing is certain, the man who was just being talked about as Mr loyalty is going through some changes.

Well, he's not exactly Mr. Loyalty anymore, is he? Jumping teams and who knows, maybe a change of wife is next on the list! But honestly, we've got no business poking our noses into his personal life. For me, I won't bother digging into why he's filing for divorce or trying to connect his personal stuff to his past or future performance with the Bucks. My main thing right now is, can he actually gel with the Bucks' superstars? You know, chemistry can be a make-or-break factor for this team.

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Looks like this is going to be quite the life changing move for Damian Lillard. In addition to changing teams and moving to Milwaukee, he has also now filed for divorce from his wife. No idea if that will motivate him or cause him to have a terrible season, but one thing is certain, the man who was just being talked about as Mr loyalty is going through some changes.

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Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that any player will lose market value if he changes teams every season and acts like Simmons did earlier or like Harden this offseason. Who knows, maybe Harden will purposely misbehave both on and off the court during the upcoming season, and the 76ers will have no choice but to trade him. Of course, it's unlikely that will happen, though I wouldn't be surprised by it.

They really need to act and give these kinds of players some harsh punishment in order not to be followed by others because there has not been a problem like this before. yes, players back then had their own life outside the court like Dennis Rodman when he attended some parties and other stuff but when he got inside the court with the Bulls he still played and managed to take his role as the crucial rebounder for the team. while in this NBA era that we have right now, the players will do everything they can just to be traded or get out from their team if they want to.

There's a reason why a player would want to leave a team.

Once a player signs a contract with a certain team, they have a mutual understanding that they will follow the contract. Part of that understanding is that a player could request a trade if they do not feel happy playing with the team. There are many factors that could affect this decision. The same goes for the team; if they are not happy with a player's performance or for whatever reason, they can arrange a trade. So what happens here is that both the team owners and the player have 50/50 rights to do what they want, as long as it does not violate the contract. If it does, that's another story, and it could lead to a legal battle.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 05, 2023, 04:59:01 AM

Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that any player will lose market value if he changes teams every season and acts like Simmons did earlier or like Harden this offseason. Who knows, maybe Harden will purposely misbehave both on and off the court during the upcoming season, and the 76ers will have no choice but to trade him. Of course, it's unlikely that will happen, though I wouldn't be surprised by it.

They really need to act and give these kinds of players some harsh punishment in order not to be followed by others because there has not been a problem like this before. yes, players back then had their own life outside the court like Dennis Rodman when he attended some parties and other stuff but when he got inside the court with the Bulls he still played and managed to take his role as the crucial rebounder for the team. while in this NBA era that we have right now, the players will do everything they can just to be traded or get out from their team if they want to.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on October 05, 2023, 06:54:40 AM

Finally the time has come, the NBA is back with the preseason starting off with the Timberwolfes facing the Mavs tonight in Abu Dhabi.

As a Dirk Nowitzki fan even now I still have a place in my heart for Dallas.
Hopefully Kyrie and Luka built some chemistry over the short offseason break that Luka had and can finally who what this dynamic duo is capable of.

Nur sure if we see both tonight, I saw conflicting reports with some sites saying they will play and others saying that Dallas might take it slow on Luka since he still has some minor issues with injuries.
But whatever happens, let's hope for a fine game tonight. I will switch from NBA preseason to Euroleague offcasionally though as this kicks off tonight as well. Grin

Yes! Finally! But the sad part of it is it's starting at 12 a.m. here in our timeline. Cry

About the Dallas Mavericks, I am a follower of their page on Facebook and I can see some good chemistry between the two of them in practice. I think they are having fun playing with each other and Kyrie looks fresh again unlike the time when he was playing with other superstars. The positive vibe of Luka Doncic must've affected him.

It's preseason so I guess if ever the two will come out, it will just be in limited minutes. More playtime for their bench trying to build their own chemistry so that they will be ready if needed.

8 hours after that game will be Golden State Warriors against the LA Lakers. NBA is kicking off with some good games to hype the league. Nicely done. That's 8:30 AM here so I am guessing at night in Eastern Time.

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But his performance is also crucial because the Sixers chose not to trade him. Once his contract expires, and if he does not produce good statistics, he won't be able to secure a good contract with a team that might interest him. In short, his market value will drop. Let's just see how the season will go. At least for now, the Sixers' headache has eased a bit, as Harden is already participating in practice.

Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that any player will lose market value if he changes teams every season and acts like Simmons did earlier or like Harden this offseason. Who knows, maybe Harden will purposely misbehave both on and off the court during the upcoming season, and the 76ers will have no choice but to trade him. Of course, it's unlikely that will happen, though I wouldn't be surprised by it.

Not really because the market price of player depends on how he plays and what achievements he gets in each season because even though he moves from team to team being able to play competitively and make big contribution to the team will be really needed by other teams who and from here he will remain player with fairly high or stable price.

Simmons and Harden are actually two quite great players but some people may not really like them but it seems like these two players experienced decline in market value after officially moving or swapping teams last season.
It just that when has selling price low on the market it possible that the team will never sell him.

What's important for Harden is that he still enjoys a huge contract he earned with the 76ers, but his performance will have a major impact on his future. Maybe Harden is no longer in his prime, but being a star player with the Rockets, for which he had a huge contract, I'm sure money is not his main focus, and that it's winning a championship.

With the current state of the 76ers and the conflicts involving Harden, they might decide to trade him if they can't resolve the problem. Harden doesn't trust the team anymore, so it's hard to expect him to help the team in the same way as before.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 05, 2023, 04:59:01 AM

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But his performance is also crucial because the Sixers chose not to trade him. Once his contract expires, and if he does not produce good statistics, he won't be able to secure a good contract with a team that might interest him. In short, his market value will drop. Let's just see how the season will go. At least for now, the Sixers' headache has eased a bit, as Harden is already participating in practice.

Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that any player will lose market value if he changes teams every season and acts like Simmons did earlier or like Harden this offseason. Who knows, maybe Harden will purposely misbehave both on and off the court during the upcoming season, and the 76ers will have no choice but to trade him. Of course, it's unlikely that will happen, though I wouldn't be surprised by it.

Not really because the market price of player depends on how he plays and what achievements he gets in each season because even though he moves from team to team being able to play competitively and make big contribution to the team will be really needed by other teams who and from here he will remain player with fairly high or stable price.

Simmons and Harden are actually two quite great players but some people may not really like them but it seems like these two players experienced decline in market value after officially moving or swapping teams last season.
It just that when has selling price low on the market it possible that the team will never sell him.

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Finally the time has come, the NBA is back with the preseason starting off with the Timberwolfes facing the Mavs tonight in Abu Dhabi.

As a Dirk Nowitzki fan even now I still have a place in my heart for Dallas.
Hopefully Kyrie and Luka built some chemistry over the short offseason break that Luka had and can finally who what this dynamic duo is capable of.

Nur sure if we see both tonight, I saw conflicting reports with some sites saying they will play and others saying that Dallas might take it slow on Luka since he still has some minor issues with injuries.
But whatever happens, let's hope for a fine game tonight. I will switch from NBA preseason to Euroleague offcasionally though as this kicks off tonight as well. Grin

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 05, 2023, 04:59:01 AM

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But his performance is also crucial because the Sixers chose not to trade him. Once his contract expires, and if he does not produce good statistics, he won't be able to secure a good contract with a team that might interest him. In short, his market value will drop. Let's just see how the season will go. At least for now, the Sixers' headache has eased a bit, as Harden is already participating in practice.

Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that any player will lose market value if he changes teams every season and acts like Simmons did earlier or like Harden this offseason. Who knows, maybe Harden will purposely misbehave both on and off the court during the upcoming season, and the 76ers will have no choice but to trade him. Of course, it's unlikely that will happen, though I wouldn't be surprised by it.

The case could be worst than the Ben Simmons drama though, at least Ben keep quiet like Harden is going on the public and telling what he doesn't like with the 76ers. So yes, I also wouldn't be surprised if we still attends the first day training camp and then disappear because he doesn't want to play with them anymore and no one can stop him from wanting to get out of the 76ers.

So this drama will drag the 76ers once more, after getting Joel his 1st MVP as a 76ers, now they are into this messed again and it doesn't look good for the franchise at the start of the season. If they could released Harden, then they should do it so that they won't be affected mentally.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 05, 2023, 01:55:06 AM

But his performance is also crucial because the Sixers chose not to trade him. Once his contract expires, and if he does not produce good statistics, he won't be able to secure a good contract with a team that might interest him. In short, his market value will drop. Let's just see how the season will go. At least for now, the Sixers' headache has eased a bit, as Harden is already participating in practice.

Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that any player will lose market value if he changes teams every season and acts like Simmons did earlier or like Harden this offseason. Who knows, maybe Harden will purposely misbehave both on and off the court during the upcoming season, and the 76ers will have no choice but to trade him. Of course, it's unlikely that will happen, though I wouldn't be surprised by it.

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I'm glad the Warriors kept Kuminga. Though he wasn't very useful last playoffs, I still believe in this player as the athleticism is already there. He just needs to mature more and play with great chemistry with the team. He's a young talent that they can develop. Hopefully, he won't act like Poole once he improves his play.

Well, losing Draymond, although temporarily, is really huge, but there's still time for him to come back.

I'm sure the Warriors won't struggle too much.

Yes, I think the Warriors can adjust without Draymond in the early part of the next season, they have recently acquired Dario Saric. So this is a big test for him to somewhat be in the position that Draymond used.

As for Kuminga, him and Andrew Wiggins should take part of the PF to SF position. Either can have a night wherein they are going to be the biggest contributor in Warriors offense. And Kuminga is very athletic indeed that's why the Warriors chooses to still be in team as he can improved a lot and not just like Poole who complains a lot and seems the be the fame gets into his head last season.

I don't know why GSW didn't sign Howard this season and now they will force Klay to play power forward. They will risk Klay's health by making him a power forward (We all know that Klay had a ruptured right Achilles) and for sure this will be a hard time for Klay.

It's possible they can make the playoffs again this year, but they will likely exit in the first or 2nd round once more.

They have Kuminga and Wiggins, and Klay didn't play power forward position as a Warriors. So I'm not really sure why you said that he will play that? Kerr is known to inject good adjustments in the game. And so with Green out for a at least a month, he could already have device a plan already with Dario Saric playing the PF/Center position.

It's too early to predict who is going to enter and who is going to exit, we haven't started the season yet. Just because Green is injured and won't be back for a month or shall we say 5 weeks means that they will exit the 2nd round or even not go to the playoffs.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 05, 2023, 01:55:06 AM

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He just showed up so he gets paid. I do not for 1 second think that the issues in Philly are over not do I think they will make a deep run in the playoffs if they reach them. The east is shaping up to be pretty tough.

But his performance is also crucial because the Sixers chose not to trade him. Once his contract expires, and if he does not produce good statistics, he won't be able to secure a good contract with a team that might interest him. In short, his market value will drop. Let's just see how the season will go. At least for now, the Sixers' headache has eased a bit, as Harden is already participating in practice.

His contract will expire next season, so it's unlikely that he will be traded. What Harden did is just a sign of professionalism; he is under contract and needs to honor it by playing. Aside from a possible lawsuit, the amount he won't earn next season if he doesn't play is $35,640,000, which is a substantial sum.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/philadelphia-76ers/james-harden-6312/

AFAIK, the rule is, no play, no pay, especially intentional.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 04, 2023, 06:50:48 AM

Quote from: Natalim on October 04, 2023, 05:52:32 AM

I'm glad the Warriors kept Kuminga. Though he wasn't very useful last playoffs, I still believe in this player as the athleticism is already there. He just needs to mature more and play with great chemistry with the team. He's a young talent that they can develop. Hopefully, he won't act like Poole once he improves his play.

Well, losing Draymond, although temporarily, is really huge, but there's still time for him to come back.

I'm sure the Warriors won't struggle too much.

Yes, I think the Warriors can adjust without Draymond in the early part of the next season, they have recently acquired Dario Saric. So this is a big test for him to somewhat be in the position that Draymond used.

As for Kuminga, him and Andrew Wiggins should take part of the PF to SF position. Either can have a night wherein they are going to be the biggest contributor in Warriors offense. And Kuminga is very athletic indeed that's why the Warriors chooses to still be in team as he can improved a lot and not just like Poole who complains a lot and seems the be the fame gets into his head last season.

I don't know why GSW didn't sign Howard this season and now they will force Klay to play power forward. They will risk Klay's health by making him a power forward (We all know that Klay had a ruptured right Achilles) and for sure this will be a hard time for Klay.

It's possible they can make the playoffs again this year, but they will likely exit in the first or 2nd round once more.

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Quote from: Questat on October 04, 2023, 09:54:39 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 04, 2023, 07:47:50 PM

Many are focusing about other things here, but they forgot the James Harden drama.
Just so we know, he's went to the training camp, played some drills, and even his coach said that he's good.
https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nba/james-harden-returns-to-philadelphia-76ers-training-camp-despite-his-trade-request

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James Harden made his return to the Philadelphia 76ers on Wednesday for training camp. He went through most of the drills. His new coach said he “looked good.”

I know, I know that he still wants to get traded, but he might realize in the next few weeks that no team wants him anymore. I hope nobody is a fan of die-hard fan of Harden here, and will say that "Yes there will be a team that wants him blah blah" because nobody wants him. He forced his way out of Houston, he also forced his way out of Brooklyn, now he's doing the same with Philly, and other teams knew this already. Add also the fact that he's on his last year of his contract, other team might lose him for nothing in return because he will already be a free agent after this season.

Harden left with no choice, but to play with the Sixers, or his value will decrease significantly. I hope he's attitude must change. Yes, he has been a big piece on Embiid's MVP, but if he will not change his attitude, he might be out of the league sooner than we expect. Attitude matters in the league, and we know that.

With this, I guess the Sixers have won the battle. Now, the 76ers are complete, and it's guaranteed that they will reach the playoffs. I'm happy with this development as I was expecting that we would again see a scenario like Simmons in the past where he sat out the entire season while waiting to get traded. Harden is still a superstar; it's just that maybe there's a need for the Sixers to improve, probably a good second unit is necessary as I find them struggling, especially when Embiid is sitting.

And it will be just odd if we see a image of video of James Harden though, just going back to the motions of going in the camp but didn't talk to his team mates or coach. Because it will be similar to Ben Simmons 2 years ago. If we will remember, there are video's of him in the training camp with his phones and just shows no interest whatsoever to train at all because he wanted to get out of the 76ers team that time and after wards he was traded to the Brooklyn Nets.

Quote from: Questat on October 04, 2023, 09:54:39 PM

He was vocal about his intention not to play with the team anymore. Now that he is back, hopefully, that will not affect his performance. He needs to stay professional and forget about the conflict with the top management. He is a pro; he should act like one.

I think there's more to it though. This is just the start and there could be more coming as I'm not that confident that Harden suddenly changes his heart and wanted to go back to the team after what he has said to the public specially against the owners.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 04, 2023, 11:38:43 PM

He just showed up so he gets paid. I do not for 1 second think that the issues in Philly are over not do I think they will make a deep run in the playoffs if they reach them. The east is shaping up to be pretty tough.

But his performance is also crucial because the Sixers chose not to trade him. Once his contract expires, and if he does not produce good statistics, he won't be able to secure a good contract with a team that might interest him. In short, his market value will drop. Let's just see how the season will go. At least for now, the Sixers' headache has eased a bit, as Harden is already participating in practice.

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Quote from: Questat on October 04, 2023, 09:54:39 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 04, 2023, 07:47:50 PM

Many are focusing about other things here, but they forgot the James Harden drama.
Just so we know, he's went to the training camp, played some drills, and even his coach said that he's good.
https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nba/james-harden-returns-to-philadelphia-76ers-training-camp-despite-his-trade-request

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James Harden made his return to the Philadelphia 76ers on Wednesday for training camp. He went through most of the drills. His new coach said he “looked good.”

I know, I know that he still wants to get traded, but he might realize in the next few weeks that no team wants him anymore. I hope nobody is a fan of die-hard fan of Harden here, and will say that "Yes there will be a team that wants him blah blah" because nobody wants him. He forced his way out of Houston, he also forced his way out of Brooklyn, now he's doing the same with Philly, and other teams knew this already. Add also the fact that he's on his last year of his contract, other team might lose him for nothing in return because he will already be a free agent after this season.

Harden left with no choice, but to play with the Sixers, or his value will decrease significantly. I hope he's attitude must change. Yes, he has been a big piece on Embiid's MVP, but if he will not change his attitude, he might be out of the league sooner than we expect. Attitude matters in the league, and we know that.

With this, I guess the Sixers have won the battle. Now, the 76ers are complete, and it's guaranteed that they will reach the playoffs. I'm happy with this development as I was expecting that we would again see a scenario like Simmons in the past where he sat out the entire season while waiting to get traded. Harden is still a superstar; it's just that maybe there's a need for the Sixers to improve, probably a good second unit is necessary as I find them struggling, especially when Embiid is sitting.

He was vocal about his intention not to play with the team anymore. Now that he is back, hopefully, that will not affect his performance. He needs to stay professional and forget about the conflict with the top management. He is a pro; he should act like one.

He just showed up so he gets paid. I do not for 1 second think that the issues in Philly are over not do I think they will make a deep run in the playoffs if they reach them. The east is shaping up to be pretty tough.

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