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July 13, 2023, 06:59:06 PM
The PR of Mat Ishbia is surely slow. Why only answer now? It was already a month when Chris Paul said that about the Isiah Thomas having a role about kicking him out.
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"When decisions are made in the organization, (team president of basketball operations and GM) James Jones, myself, (CEO) Josh Bartelstein, (head coach) Frank Vogel, our executive team make decisions. Outside people don't have any role in our decision-making process. They never have, they never will. I've asked for advice from a lot of people, specifically Tom Izzo, Isiah Thomas, Mateen Cleaves, Charlie Bell. I talk to a lot of people, but honestly, on this situation, not one of those people were consulted on this decision."
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/suns-owner-mat-ishbia-denies-that-isiah-thomas-had-anything-to-do-with-chris-paul-trade/
Well, what's done is done, and explaining things will just heighten the issue, he actually revived the buried discussion. I think CP3 is happy with where he is now, if the Suns' new owner doesn't like him then do so. He cannot actually do anything about it.
And I doubt Isiah Thomas is going to lose his job on NBA TV even if it is proven true or not. That's one power of being a Hall of Famer and there's no way anyone can prove it if the discussion is only with Mat and Isiah, they could just keep it a secret for the rest of their lives.
If I am the owner of the Suns I'd rather keep it silent, explaining this things will just damage his reputation.
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July 13, 2023, 05:06:13 PM
James Harden has stated again that he wants to be traded to the Sixers management.
Harden wants to leave the team, Los Angeles Clippers are being considered for a trade, but there is no progress at the moment.
Harden is not a special player anymore. He is more a liability IMO as anyone who takes him has to worry that they will be the 4th team he wants traded from. He's not worth the risk or the money.

I agree with you on this. It used to be very good, but now it's not like that.
James Harden has stated again that he wants to go to the Clippers next season.
What players can the Clippers give up for him, what drafts can they give up?
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July 13, 2023, 04:32:09 PM
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Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe.
We can't blame him for that since he hasn't experienced the real one yet but I'm pretty sure some US players who read that are going to get a piece of him. He's in for a rude awakening hehe.

Exactly, I’m starting to doubt him due to his recent opinion since Spurs is currently at the bottom of the standings. I wonder if he can play even a full quarter on NBA regular season especially against hard core big man like Giaanis, Jokic and Embiid. I'm sure that his hamstring will gonna ache much once he receive consecutive blows on a real physical game.

He even struggling on summer league. I think his comment is just to boost his morale since people is expecting a lot on him while he can't display a very dominant performance to carry his teammates.

Victor's comment sounds a bit cocky, considering he only played 2 games in the summer league. As I see it, summer league games and regular season games are completely different things, and it makes no sense to compare them. As for whether Victor can play against other big guys, I think he will have a hard time in the paint because guys like Jokic and Embiid weigh a lot more than Victor, and they will probably dominate him.

Honestly with the amount of press and attention he is getting you don't think the NBA bigs didn't read that?  Dude should keep his mouth shut he is playing in the summer league against fringe players who will be working construction during the season.  He doesn't think, that's how the NBA is does he?  Just wish Shaq was still in the league 😅
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July 13, 2023, 03:56:00 PM
I agree with you that it might be tough for them placing him as they already have lots of scorers who
can give them good offense. And same with the Warriors, though let see if what's the next update about Wood we never
know which team will sign him.

The Lakers faced the Nuggets because they were a strong team, with the Nuggets holding the top spot during the season while the Lakers barely made it to the playoffs. From my personal observation, what seemed to be lacking for the Lakers at that time was support for Davis. While Davis could effectively guard Jokic, he appeared to be burdened with both scoring and defensive responsibilities, leading to potential fatigue. It might have been beneficial for Davis to focus on one specific role, whether it be offense or defense, in order to maximize his impact.

That is true! The Denver Nuggets held the top seed for quite a long time until the season ends because it's like they have got the perfect team and right players to do the job without having someone in the team to carry some of their responsibilities, other than that, height is quite a factor as well because it is clear that the Lakers are having a hard time defending their rim from the Nuggets attacks, leaving Lebron and Davis to be the primary players to do everybody else's job.
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July 13, 2023, 03:42:21 PM
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Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe.
We can't blame him for that since he hasn't experienced the real one yet but I'm pretty sure some US players who read that are going to get a piece of him. He's in for a rude awakening hehe.

Exactly, I’m starting to doubt him due to his recent opinion since Spurs is currently at the bottom of the standings. I wonder if he can play even a full quarter on NBA regular season especially against hard core big man like Giaanis, Jokic and Embiid. I'm sure that his hamstring will gonna ache much once he receive consecutive blows on a real physical game.

He even struggling on summer league. I think his comment is just to boost his morale since people is expecting a lot on him while he can't display a very dominant performance to carry his teammates.

Victor's comment sounds a bit cocky, considering he only played 2 games in the summer league. As I see it, summer league games and regular season games are completely different things, and it makes no sense to compare them. As for whether Victor can play against other big guys, I think he will have a hard time in the paint because guys like Jokic and Embiid weigh a lot more than Victor, and they will probably dominate him.

His eyes are still close when it comes to the reality inside the NBA, it will be more believable if those comments came from Nikola Jokic or Giannis Antetokounmpo. But since the comment came from a kid who just played two mere games in the summer league and just got drafted this summer, it's still too premature for him to give that since he haven't got the experience what it feels like if you play in normal games inside the normal season.

Now, after this comment, I know coach Pop didn't liked it and because of that comment, it will be safe to say that some of the players in the league will target him to open his eyes about the reality. So, to you Victor Wembanyama, good luck to your rookie days.
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July 13, 2023, 02:53:46 PM
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Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe.
We can't blame him for that since he hasn't experienced the real one yet but I'm pretty sure some US players who read that are going to get a piece of him. He's in for a rude awakening hehe.

Exactly, I’m starting to doubt him due to his recent opinion since Spurs is currently at the bottom of the standings. I wonder if he can play even a full quarter on NBA regular season especially against hard core big man like Giaanis, Jokic and Embiid. I'm sure that his hamstring will gonna ache much once he receive consecutive blows on a real physical game.

He even struggling on summer league. I think his comment is just to boost his morale since people is expecting a lot on him while he can't display a very dominant performance to carry his teammates.

Victor's comment sounds a bit cocky, considering he only played 2 games in the summer league. As I see it, summer league games and regular season games are completely different things, and it makes no sense to compare them. As for whether Victor can play against other big guys, I think he will have a hard time in the paint because guys like Jokic and Embiid weigh a lot more than Victor, and they will probably dominate him.
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July 13, 2023, 02:41:15 PM
Everyone talking about Ja Morant and thought neighborhoods or lack of role models is absolutely crazy. He grew up in a rich neighborhood, went to private school, his parents are still happily married and judging from the pictures of them growing up, their household was not in any way gangsta. This being hard stuff happened after they all got money and wanted to play pretend Scarface. That’s why he has teenagers at his house he’s bullying. This is going to end badly for him if he keeps playing a fake role and it won’t be loss of sponsors.
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July 13, 2023, 01:42:39 PM
Ja Morant's best friend Davonte Pack has been arrested.
An 18-year-old was assaulted at Ja Morant's house.
There has been no charge yet against Ja Morant.
Things haven't been going well for Ja Morant lately.

Even though it's not directly him, but rather his friends, it can still reflect poorly on him. He really needs to distance himself from that circle he's currently involved with because his future is at risk. At such a young age, he has the potential to earn much more than he currently does. He just needs to ensure that he sets a good example for others and makes positive choices for himself.

Exactly. He need to find other people to surround him because if that same circle will be with him in the next couple of years, he will not improve as a human being and his status of being an active NBA player will put to risks because his name will always be involved whenever he or his friends did commit something illegal. It will be very unfortunate if his future will be gone just because of his childish act, he need to pull himself together if he still wanted to play in the league for at least a decade.

I mean at a certain point I'm wondering where his parents are at, at this point.  Dude obviously has a lot of growing up to do and needs a positive role model to be around 24/7.  Not gonna lie its gonna be tough for him since that is all he seems to know.  He is risking it all but he wouldn't be the first nor last person to do that.  Sad.

Unfortunately, that is the reality especially if you grew in a neighborhood where there is a huge chance that you will be influenced about what they are doing. For Ja Morant, it's not that he grew poor but while growing up, he made a choice to be relevant in his generation even if that means that he will be doing some stuffs that is not really likeable when he grows older and indeed, that happens right now to him. Well, he still have some chance but those chances are not unlimited so he better think twice.
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July 13, 2023, 12:59:33 PM
A bit of a Hollywood drama for everyone; Apparently Britney Spears tried to run behind Victor Wemby and take a photo, but as soon as she reached him the guards protected him and not recognize Britney spears, which could happen I understand that.

She claims she was thrown to ground, which from the video looks like it didn't happen, she was just swatted away which is still a serious thing of course but so is running behind an NBA player to take a pic, if it was a random person we would understand why it wasn't allowed but because it's Britney spears it became a much bigger thing than it needed to be, and I am pretty sure that there will be Britney Stans everywhere constantly trying to find a weakness in wemby forever now, a hard career start for sure. He has nothing to do with it by the way, it was between her and his bodyguard, but because HE hasn't apologized for something he hasn't done, she still attacks him.
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July 13, 2023, 11:07:20 AM
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Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe.
We can't blame him for that since he hasn't experienced the real one yet but I'm pretty sure some US players who read that are going to get a piece of him. He's in for a rude awakening hehe.

Exactly, I’m starting to doubt him due to his recent opinion since Spurs is currently at the bottom of the standings. I wonder if he can play even a full quarter on NBA regular season especially against hard core big man like Giaanis, Jokic and Embiid. I'm sure that his hamstring will gonna ache much once he receive consecutive blows on a real physical game.

He even struggling on summer league. I think his comment is just to boost his morale since people is expecting a lot on him while he can't display a very dominant performance to carry his teammates.
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July 13, 2023, 10:43:02 AM
A lot of veteran floppers will have to adjust to this now hehe. Good for the game.
This changes their style of getting a foul so, there's a big adjustment that they have to do especially the ones that do it every game.

That will indeed make the games more exciting to watch, as the mastered "flopping" style employed by some players will be penalized in the upcoming new season. It is a necessary move that the NBA has made, considering the complaints and frustration expressed by fans, especially when prominent floppers like James Harden benefit from unfair techniques.
It is long overdue but this is just one of the many changes that the NBA basketball is having for the next season. They don't mind about the thoughts of their fans about it.
But it's just that they have to change something and it's been abused by many veterans in the league for so long and that's why this should have been implemented long time ago but just happened and approved this upcoming season 23-24.
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July 13, 2023, 09:43:12 AM
[....]If Miami Heat cannot execute a good deal before the start of the season, then they are in for a rude awakening after losing Struss and Vincent who are both vital for the team.
Some proposals trading Robinson and Herro for Bulls' Lavine in case they don't get Dame soon. I don't know if that's going to be the case but I think it's not a good deal for the Heat.
AFAIK, the rookie Nikola Jovic is also part of the proposal and that's why the Heat is just trying to get rid of them just to get Zach. I also don't think it's a good deal for the Heat but then, they know what's best for their team and what they lack.

With CP3 and Curry, the rotations might be different when Woods manages to blend his game with the Warriors stars.
So, it's going to be a trio with Klay as well. The rotation is going to be good and new but I still think that they lack of big man although they've got Dray on their side. Too many trade rumors that have became a meme on social media that I am seeing and sometimes people are too gullible to believe those fake trade proposals.
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July 13, 2023, 09:25:30 AM
[....]If Miami Heat cannot execute a good deal before the start of the season, then they are in for a rude awakening after losing Struss and Vincent who are both vital for the team.
Some proposals trading Robinson and Herro for Bulls' Lavine in case they don't get Dame soon. I don't know if that's going to be the case but I think it's not a good deal for the Heat.

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Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe.
We can't blame him for that since he hasn't experienced the real one yet but I'm pretty sure some US players who read that are going to get a piece of him. He's in for a rude awakening hehe.

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July 13, 2023, 09:14:35 AM
I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.


He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.html

But if Lakers or the Warriors are the team that are looking for a good center, then they are loaded with scorers already, which make Christian Wood a liability to them. And again, he is a good scoring threat, but it seems they are looking for a center that is in the mold of let's say Ayton or even Joel Embiid.

So as much as his stats is that good, he might not be a perfect fit for a offensive team, in my opinion.

You know, the Warriors are indeed a strong team, and they have a good track record of developing players. In contrast, the Lakers already have Anthony Davis and they don't prioritize ball movement as much as the Warriors do. Personally, I believe the Warriors would be more likely to sign Wood. However, I could be mistaken, so if the Lakers were to pursue him, it could be a good move for them, providing a solid backup for Davis as the latter is an injury prone big already.

Warriors for me is a good place to develop Woods capabilities, still young and have that quality to work with how
the Warrior's work, he can run and for me, that's a good edge for him if Warriors will bring him in.

A good replacement for Looney, not a scoring weapon but for sure if given a chance he will be a good backup for the Warriors
as he also has that threat outside.

With CP3 and Curry, the rotations might be different when Woods manages to blend his game with the Warriors stars.
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July 13, 2023, 09:13:12 AM
Dang Portland is willing for the waiting game on the Damian Lillard trade. So it seems that the Miami Heat only has a 50% chance of getting Lillard. The open market is silent right now, but the teams are pretty sure busy making negotiations away from public eyes. If Miami Heat cannot execute a good deal before the start of the season, then they are in for a rude awakening after losing Struss and Vincent who are both vital for the team.

They are likely attempting to secure players or a player who would be valuable in a potential trade for Lillard. However, the longer they wait, the more it could impact their upcoming season's journey. Lillard's future with the team may become uncertain, especially in light of his statement expressing a desire to no longer play with the team. If the situation persists, there is a possibility that Lillard may not participate or the team may consider him unavailable for the season.


Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe. I don't know if it is the San Antonio management that wanted the kid to stay out of the media for a while but it is a good decision. The kid is still young and maybe immature with his thoughts just like when he said before that he doesn't need to gain weight in the NBA. Cheesy

Perhaps it would have been wise for him to wait a little longer before making that statement. The experience he had was just during the summer league, and it's possible that his perspective could change once the regular season begins.
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July 13, 2023, 09:05:36 AM
Not only that, but the team that he wanted to be traded is already loaded with stars and good second stringers. If Clippers will pursue him, then obviously they will lose a lot of good rotational players and most likely future draft picks as well.
And as you have said, he might not be in his prime years or maybe he has lost some steps. And he could be a liability for anytime right now specially if he will commit a lot of turnovers which he is prone to.

He thinks that he can no longer help the 76ers to get the championship they really wanted because he seems not to find the right chemistry with the team and he is planning to get it with the help of the players he needs. He really wanted to get that ring as he is now close to retiring from the NBA and when his skills are no longer there, he will also lose his value and eventually might not gonna be there in the NBA and be forced to play in the other country just like the other NBA players recently. this is probably his last chance to be traded in a team that he thinks has the ability to take him to the NBA championship this upcoming season.
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July 13, 2023, 08:43:19 AM
Dang Portland is willing for the waiting game on the Damian Lillard trade. So it seems that the Miami Heat only has a 50% chance of getting Lillard. The open market is silent right now, but the teams are pretty sure busy making negotiations away from public eyes. If Miami Heat cannot execute a good deal before the start of the season, then they are in for a rude awakening after losing Struss and Vincent who are both vital for the team.

Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe. I don't know if it is the San Antonio management that wanted the kid to stay out of the media for a while but it is a good decision. The kid is still young and maybe immature with his thoughts just like when he said before that he doesn't need to gain weight in the NBA. Cheesy
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July 13, 2023, 08:19:44 AM
We already see it on Lakers series where they are been dominated on rebounding so maybe they can put some guy to possible solve the issue depends on the game flow. They can still use the small ball line up but as stated its good to have another alternative if their small ball line up will not work.
No, the Lakers getting outrebounded does not happen frequently, and it's not their main problem. If we recall their performance in the playoffs, they were dominant in the paint due to their size advantage. However, their main issue was their poor shooting from the outside, particularly from the 3-point line, during the playoffs.
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July 13, 2023, 07:20:12 AM
I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.


He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.html

But if Lakers or the Warriors are the team that are looking for a good center, then they are loaded with scorers already, which make Christian Wood a liability to them. And again, he is a good scoring threat, but it seems they are looking for a center that is in the mold of let's say Ayton or even Joel Embiid.

So as much as his stats is that good, he might not be a perfect fit for a offensive team, in my opinion.

You know, the Warriors are indeed a strong team, and they have a good track record of developing players. In contrast, the Lakers already have Anthony Davis and they don't prioritize ball movement as much as the Warriors do. Personally, I believe the Warriors would be more likely to sign Wood. However, I could be mistaken, so if the Lakers were to pursue him, it could be a good move for them, providing a solid backup for Davis as the latter is an injury prone big already.

Time is ticking up for Warriors and if they didn't take Wood most provably he goes on another team which they can use him as back up center like lakers. Warriors should add this guy in the rooster since they really need a big man to help them up if they are out rebounded by big teams.

We already see it on Lakers series where they are been dominated on rebounding so maybe they can put some guy to possible solve the issue depends on the game flow. They can still use the small ball line up but as stated its good to have another alternative if their small ball line up will not work.
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July 13, 2023, 06:19:47 AM
I agree with you that it might be tough for them placing him as they already have lots of scorers who
can give them good offense. And same with the Warriors, though let see if what's the next update about Wood we never
know which team will sign him.

The Lakers faced the Nuggets because they were a strong team, with the Nuggets holding the top spot during the season while the Lakers barely made it to the playoffs. From my personal observation, what seemed to be lacking for the Lakers at that time was support for Davis. While Davis could effectively guard Jokic, he appeared to be burdened with both scoring and defensive responsibilities, leading to potential fatigue. It might have been beneficial for Davis to focus on one specific role, whether it be offense or defense, in order to maximize his impact.
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