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June 29, 2023, 06:18:42 AM
Maybe they made that announcement to confuse other teams on what is their plan to their current roster. Since it can ruin their plan if they show what will be the role of their new acquired player. We might see Paul playing at bench since this is the best position where he can be placed to make sure their team still have fire power even if their main guys like Steph setting on bench. But lets watch what will happen since current roster of Warriors is pretty interesting next season.

This isn't a playoff game, so it will have no effect on confusing people. Remember that we have a whole new season ahead with numerous games and ample time to adjust. Whatever they are planning, I wouldn't question or doubt it because they have been champions for a reason.
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June 29, 2023, 06:11:01 AM
Now that CP3 is on the Warriors, I think so too that he will be in the starting line-up but that won't be long as they cannot afford to lose CP3 via injury and will just let him rest in-between or where the Warriors needed him the most.
He'll surely be in the starting line up, the Warriors won't spend millions on him on this trade if he won't be on the starting five. We'll get to see those days if it happens as he's an injury prone player.

But at least on this matter, GSW got someone who would take care of the job and will have the assist for open shots for Klay and Steph.

He's the one to take care of it.

I thought they were getting him as a backup so I’m surprised that they’re planning to have him alongside Steph and Klay. That’s a pretty small and not very athletic 3 players. Not to mention Green is undersized and aging. I’m not sure what kind of basketball they’ll be playing, but they won’t be getting very many rebounds while doing it.

Maybe they made that announcement to confuse other teams on what is their plan to their current roster. Since it can ruin their plan if they show what will be the role of their new acquired player. We might see Paul playing at bench since this is the best position where he can be placed to make sure their team still have fire power even if their main guys like Steph setting on bench. But lets watch what will happen since current roster of Warriors is pretty interesting next season.
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June 29, 2023, 04:13:46 AM


This was Jokic's stats for the 2022/2023 season. He had a wonderful season and played the biggest role in Denver's becoming champions for the first time in team history. He had so many extra performances during the play-offs as well and totally deserved to be the MVP of the finals as well. After a solid season like this I wonder how things will go for Denver from now on.

Can they be one of the biggest title contenders again? To be able to maintain this level this time Jokic's enormous effort might not be enough. Murray had better have a consistent and productive season together with Jokic. Because if he also makes a big contribution during a whole season I don't see any reason hindering them from being one of the favourites again.
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June 29, 2023, 01:11:10 AM
Now that CP3 is on the Warriors, I think so too that he will be in the starting line-up but that won't be long as they cannot afford to lose CP3 via injury and will just let him rest in-between or where the Warriors needed him the most.
He'll surely be in the starting line up, the Warriors won't spend millions on him on this trade if he won't be on the starting five. We'll get to see those days if it happens as he's an injury prone player.

But at least on this matter, GSW got someone who would take care of the job and will have the assist for open shots for Klay and Steph.

He's the one to take care of it.

I thought they were getting him as a backup so I’m surprised that they’re planning to have him alongside Steph and Klay. That’s a pretty small and not very athletic 3 players. Not to mention Green is undersized and aging. I’m not sure what kind of basketball they’ll be playing, but they won’t be getting very many rebounds while doing it.
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June 28, 2023, 10:50:08 PM
Now that CP3 is on the Warriors, I think so too that he will be in the starting line-up but that won't be long as they cannot afford to lose CP3 via injury and will just let him rest in-between or where the Warriors needed him the most.
He'll surely be in the starting line up, the Warriors won't spend millions on him on this trade if he won't be on the starting five. We'll get to see those days if it happens as he's an injury prone player.

But at least on this matter, GSW got someone who would take care of the job and will have the assist for open shots for Klay and Steph.

He's the one to take care of it.

Actually, they didn't spend millions. They got rid of JP's bad contract which would cost them much more over the next 4 years. They have CP3 for only 1 year if I am not mistaken and then this money will be off the book.

So basically, in my opinion, playing wise this deal didn't make a lot of sense ( we will see how it plays out ) but money wise it is good for them.
Of course Jordan Poole might punish them and suddenly remember he can play but since this is just speculation it was a good idea to get him off the books. It was a mistake to give him this much money anyway, he just got lucky he got punched be Green and they felt bad for him.  Grin

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June 28, 2023, 09:47:55 PM
It is a shame too. The Blazers were on their way to a dynasty but Greg Oden’s injury devastated them. Brandon Roy also could have been great, not to mention they had LaMarcus Aldridge and even Zach Randolph. It was just a series of unfortunate incidents that kept Dame from getting a ring, so I think everyone is fine with him ring chasing now. Poor Portland. What could have been.

In fact, Oden had potential, but he didn't even have time to prove himself due to constant injuries. Just imagine how good the Blazers could have been if Lillard, Roy, Aldridge, and Oden had been healthy and played at the same time in their prime. They probably would have been able to win a couple of titles at the time.
As for Randolph, he was really good in the Blazers early in his career. However, I personally associate him more with a Grizzlies uniform than a Blazers uniform.

Yeah, it's just pity how things turn out for Greg, and he has become the epitome of a bust in the NBA, like Kwame Brown. Brandon Roy story as well, his knees didn't cooperate and worst there's no cartilage left on him after many surgeries to repair it.

And then Aldridge + Lillard could have been great by LA chooses to go to San Antonio and he was still in his prime that time, but after a couple of years, his game decline. I also agree that Randolph associated with Grizzlies because that's where he made his name and not in Portland's uniform.
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June 28, 2023, 08:34:42 PM
Maybe seeing Paul and Steph starting at the same time.
There is a possibility that this approach would help Curry conserve his energy, as they would already have a facilitator, while he and Thompson focus on finding open shots. It would result in a smaller lineup, but adjustments can always be made.

I guess right now we can't really say what will be the adjustments that Steve Kerr is going to put here. Yes, Chris Paul is prone to injury, but I think it might be effective if Curry will not bring the ball and put it to Paul as their main point guard.

They will still be good with Looney and they they will play small, which has been the trend for now in the NBA. Although it was proven by the Nuggets that you still need big men, like Jokic to bring championship. Nevertheless, I doubt that the Warriors are going to get another big men to help Looney.

I was seeing the pictures on Twitter of people showing the Warriors’ starting five next year. I was surprised to see that the expectation is for both Chris Paul and Stephen Curry to start. I’m not sure that’ll be what happens. They’re both pretty weak defensive guards. I can’t imagine they’d both be playing lots of minutes together. Seems like a liability.
Maybe they can offset it in their offense, for me, Steph is a underrated defensive guard, remember when he has to guard Ja Morant in their series a couple of years ago and was able to do that and even block his shots going to his left?

Perhaps it will be on the side of CP3 on how to play defense, but he might cover it thru his defense and his passing as he usually does. So if ever there is a liability on their starting five, it might just be CP3.
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June 28, 2023, 05:34:47 PM
Now that CP3 is on the Warriors, I think so too that he will be in the starting line-up but that won't be long as they cannot afford to lose CP3 via injury and will just let him rest in-between or where the Warriors needed him the most.
He'll surely be in the starting line up, the Warriors won't spend millions on him on this trade if he won't be on the starting five. We'll get to see those days if it happens as he's an injury prone player.

But at least on this matter, GSW got someone who would take care of the job and will have the assist for open shots for Klay and Steph.

He's the one to take care of it.
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June 28, 2023, 05:21:46 PM
Maybe seeing Paul and Steph starting at the same time.
There is a possibility that this approach would help Curry conserve his energy, as they would already have a facilitator, while he and Thompson focus on finding open shots. It would result in a smaller lineup, but adjustments can always be made.

A very big adjustment here, in my opinion,

with how the Nuggets use that advantage against the Heat during the finals, we might see them duplicating
the same system, though I agree that CP3 will be a big help in terms of giving Curry and Thompson a good
breathing in, finding their spot to take much clear and open shots. He can provide space as he can also shoot
with a good percentage.

He won't be called as the Point-God if he himself cannot do the shots whenever the players that he is facilitating doesn't have any window but his shooting expertise comes 2nd as he is more useful in setting up the table for the team and for the Splash Brothers to do their thing with less hassle. And now that he's becoming more and more prone to injury, just like what others are saying, I guess the Warriors will just use him during the most important minutes of the game.

They need point guard that can set some plays to them while Curry is out of the game so I can still say that Paul's addition in the roster still fine in Warriors. They still have money to use to add a big man on their team so I guess they really plan this that's why they trade Poole just to reduce their cap space and get the players they want to add in their rotation plus to retain Green in the roster.
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June 28, 2023, 03:32:07 PM
It is a shame too. The Blazers were on their way to a dynasty but Greg Oden’s injury devastated them. Brandon Roy also could have been great, not to mention they had LaMarcus Aldridge and even Zach Randolph. It was just a series of unfortunate incidents that kept Dame from getting a ring, so I think everyone is fine with him ring chasing now. Poor Portland. What could have been.

In fact, Oden had potential, but he didn't even have time to prove himself due to constant injuries. Just imagine how good the Blazers could have been if Lillard, Roy, Aldridge, and Oden had been healthy and played at the same time in their prime. They probably would have been able to win a couple of titles at the time.
As for Randolph, he was really good in the Blazers early in his career. However, I personally associate him more with a Grizzlies uniform than a Blazers uniform.

Statistically speaking if you look at Oden’s stats for the amount of time he played, he was one of the most dominant players the NBA has ever seen. He would have been a hall of famer if he could have stayed healthy in my opinion. He just didn’t have the time. Most people have no idea that bad luck kept Portland from one of the most dominant teams of all time.
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June 28, 2023, 03:04:20 PM
Maybe seeing Paul and Steph starting at the same time.
There is a possibility that this approach would help Curry conserve his energy, as they would already have a facilitator, while he and Thompson focus on finding open shots. It would result in a smaller lineup, but adjustments can always be made.

A very big adjustment here, in my opinion,

with how the Nuggets use that advantage against the Heat during the finals, we might see them duplicating
the same system, though I agree that CP3 will be a big help in terms of giving Curry and Thompson a good
breathing in, finding their spot to take much clear and open shots. He can provide space as he can also shoot
with a good percentage.

He won't be called as the Point-God if he himself cannot do the shots whenever the players that he is facilitating doesn't have any window but his shooting expertise comes 2nd as he is more useful in setting up the table for the team and for the Splash Brothers to do their thing with less hassle. And now that he's becoming more and more prone to injury, just like what others are saying, I guess the Warriors will just use him during the most important minutes of the game.
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June 28, 2023, 01:29:49 PM
^ We’ll see. The Trailblazers have been praising Dame for years and saying that they’d help him get to where he wants to go if he ever wanted to leave the franchise, so I could see them letting him go for a lot of picks instead of trying to get a star player. Dame is also starting to age, so from a business standpoint it’s probably time to part ways with him anyway.

At this point in time, I just don’t see why he would even want to stay in Portland. It’s been pretty clear they aren’t willing to spend the money to bring in some big guns to help give him at least a chance to compete for a championship.

Dame is easily one of the best shooters of all time and one of the best players I’ve ever seen, his window of being a star is now limited, so in my opinion he needs to ask to be traded to a contender.

I agree. Now if Dame will not force a trade then unfortunately, I think he will be one of those stars that will be up for retirement without having any chips on their shoulders and was just wasted for staying for a team while hoping that maybe someday they will provide you some help by bringing good players that can get the team to a much higher position in the upcoming seasons. But hopefully he will make a move though.
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June 28, 2023, 01:21:47 PM
Maybe seeing Paul and Steph starting at the same time.
There is a possibility that this approach would help Curry conserve his energy, as they would already have a facilitator, while he and Thompson focus on finding open shots. It would result in a smaller lineup, but adjustments can always be made.

It's quite evident already that the Golden State Warriors aren't looking to change their line-up to keep up with the giant players nowadays that can literally protect the rim and paint, instead, they are giving more focus in what they have and the strengths where they are famous for, small ball.

Now that CP3 is on the Warriors, I think so too that he will be in the starting line-up but that won't be long as they cannot afford to lose CP3 via injury and will just let him rest in-between or where the Warriors needed him the most.
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June 28, 2023, 12:29:48 PM
It is a shame too. The Blazers were on their way to a dynasty but Greg Oden’s injury devastated them. Brandon Roy also could have been great, not to mention they had LaMarcus Aldridge and even Zach Randolph. It was just a series of unfortunate incidents that kept Dame from getting a ring, so I think everyone is fine with him ring chasing now. Poor Portland. What could have been.

In fact, Oden had potential, but he didn't even have time to prove himself due to constant injuries. Just imagine how good the Blazers could have been if Lillard, Roy, Aldridge, and Oden had been healthy and played at the same time in their prime. They probably would have been able to win a couple of titles at the time.
As for Randolph, he was really good in the Blazers early in his career. However, I personally associate him more with a Grizzlies uniform than a Blazers uniform.
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June 28, 2023, 12:15:04 PM
Maybe seeing Paul and Steph starting at the same time.
There is a possibility that this approach would help Curry conserve his energy, as they would already have a facilitator, while he and Thompson focus on finding open shots. It would result in a smaller lineup, but adjustments can always be made.

A very big adjustment here, in my opinion,

with how the Nuggets use that advantage against the Heat during the finals, we might see them duplicating
the same system, though I agree that CP3 will be a big help in terms of giving Curry and Thompson a good
breathing in, finding their spot to take much clear and open shots. He can provide space as he can also shoot
with a good percentage.
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June 28, 2023, 11:41:07 AM
Maybe seeing Paul and Steph starting at the same time.
There is a possibility that this approach would help Curry conserve his energy, as they would already have a facilitator, while he and Thompson focus on finding open shots. It would result in a smaller lineup, but adjustments can always be made.

I guess right now we can't really say what will be the adjustments that Steve Kerr is going to put here. Yes, Chris Paul is prone to injury, but I think it might be effective if Curry will not bring the ball and put it to Paul as their main point guard.

They will still be good with Looney and they they will play small, which has been the trend for now in the NBA. Although it was proven by the Nuggets that you still need big men, like Jokic to bring championship. Nevertheless, I doubt that the Warriors are going to get another big men to help Looney.

I was seeing the pictures on Twitter of people showing the Warriors’ starting five next year. I was surprised to see that the expectation is for both Chris Paul and Stephen Curry to start. I’m not sure that’ll be what happens. They’re both pretty weak defensive guards. I can’t imagine they’d both be playing lots of minutes together. Seems like a liability.
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June 28, 2023, 09:37:45 AM
Maybe seeing Paul and Steph starting at the same time.
There is a possibility that this approach would help Curry conserve his energy, as they would already have a facilitator, while he and Thompson focus on finding open shots. It would result in a smaller lineup, but adjustments can always be made.

I guess right now we can't really say what will be the adjustments that Steve Kerr is going to put here. Yes, Chris Paul is prone to injury, but I think it might be effective if Curry will not bring the ball and put it to Paul as their main point guard.

They will still be good with Looney and they they will play small, which has been the trend for now in the NBA. Although it was proven by the Nuggets that you still need big men, like Jokic to bring championship. Nevertheless, I doubt that the Warriors are going to get another big men to help Looney.
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June 28, 2023, 09:25:13 AM
I'm glad to hear that the Suns are apparently willing to keep DeAndre Ayton now instead of trade him for next to nothing.  Pretty crazy that they almost dealt him for JaVale McGee, Tim Hardaway Jr. & Richaun Holmes.  I think Ayton is worth a lot more than that and I hope he's able to have another year like in their Finals run a couple years back.  He's definitely capable of being one of the top centers in the league, he just needs some development help.  Monty Williams did a horrible job with him and I think if the Suns focus on him they'll have their best chance at getting back into the Finals.
It would be better for the Suns to just keep him TBH.

Their coach is a defensive minded coach therefore, it would be more beneficial for Ayton as he would be focusing more on defense, and let the other 3 shooters focus on offense as well. What they Suns need is a bunch of role players that's also good on defense, and some offense players that would sub out if anybody of the three are in the bench, or got injured. Overall, it's pretty obvious that the Suns will decline on the Mavericks trade because like you said, Ayton's worth is more than that. On the other hand, I guess the Suns are still interested in trading Ayton, but they will just trade him if they will get some good defensive players.

There is also a news that Donte DiVincenzo is entering unrestricted free agency and will not sign with his player option with Warriors. So I guess the Warriors will have to lost another part of their rotation in Donte, coming off the bench, scoring almost 10 points per game.

So Poole and then Donte, I guess the Warriors bench will not be that deep, but they are going to totally rely on their offense.

Maybe seeing Paul and Steph starting at the same time.
It's expected (at least for me) since many are saying that DiVincenzo will be a UFA next season, and it really happened.

They can still get some good role players out there. I did a quick search on who are the free agents right now that is in the Guard position, and I see names like Bruce Brown, Max Strus, Seth Curry & Ty Jerome. These are just UFA currently, and some of them might be resigned by their teams last season. Overall, there are many guards out there who can cover the offense that Poole, and DiVincenzo can give. Steve Kerr is very good at developing players, and we've seen it when he became the head coach of the team.

As for CP3, and Steph starting at the same time, I don't think that it will happen, and it would be beneficial for the whole team if he will play as a bench. The Warriors are one of the top teams in terms of pacing, and CP3's way of playing is very slow, and he's injury prone. Teams who have fast pace playstyle tend to injure their hamstring the most. I think the reason why the Warriors get Paul is to cover the PG position if Steph is on the bench.

Them being together in the same court might be possible at some time, but both of them as a starter? I don't think that it will happen unless they will get 2 big players as starters as well, but that also affects their pacing.
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June 28, 2023, 09:19:30 AM
Maybe seeing Paul and Steph starting at the same time.
There is a possibility that this approach would help Curry conserve his energy, as they would already have a facilitator, while he and Thompson focus on finding open shots. It would result in a smaller lineup, but adjustments can always be made.

I thought CP3 would lead the second unit. It would be risky for him to play as a starter, considering his tendency to get injured again with increased minutes. CP3's current value lies primarily in his leadership abilities, as he is no longer the consistent playoff performer who could put up significant numbers. That's just my perspective.


I'm on the side where Curry and Thompson will benefit when CP3 will play with them on the starting unit, he can give them spaces
when he facilitating the ball.

With his scoring capabilities, it will add up on their offensive threat. I think the downside is the defense if 3 of them will play together
the opposing side might use the size and speed to take advantage of the small lineup.

We will know that once they start playing together, looking to see how coach Kerr will design the system.

Hmm, offensively this can work but what's with defense? A back court of Klay, Steph and CP3 can stop nobody these days. They are all getting old and slow on D. Klay always was a good 2 way player but after all his injuries and with age this has changed. Wiggins and Green will have to make all the work by themselves and especially Green will be gassed real quick I think.

Also, they will have no size at all, which can also be a problem. They still have to figure out a lot of stuff before the season!
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June 28, 2023, 08:57:31 AM
I'm glad to hear that the Suns are apparently willing to keep DeAndre Ayton now instead of trade him for next to nothing.  Pretty crazy that they almost dealt him for JaVale McGee, Tim Hardaway Jr. & Richaun Holmes.  I think Ayton is worth a lot more than that and I hope he's able to have another year like in their Finals run a couple years back.  He's definitely capable of being one of the top centers in the league, he just needs some development help.  Monty Williams did a horrible job with him and I think if the Suns focus on him they'll have their best chance at getting back into the Finals.
He was not worth trading and he looks good when he is in the Phoenix Suns because he already established strong bonds with the team. He will also be a huge asset in making it to the playoffs again because, without his help, it would be a disaster for the Suns because they already lose Chris Paul this upcoming season. What they need to do right now is get ready and train well to synchronize their play with their new teammates so that they will have another high chance to compete in the NBA playoffs again.

Yes, I also think that this was the right decision. A trade wouldn’t have been worth it. And it is always going to be better to keep him if he is actually going to be an asset for the team. Which I think he will be because he has good chemistry with all the players.

I believe they will have to put good plans in place. If there is good understanding between the players and on the court, everyone knows what each player is doing then I think they will have a good chance against any team.
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