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Quote from: Oasisman on September 26, 2024, 11:06:53 PM

Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

That kind of expected after he got waived by Memphis. He could have retired much earlier, but his got a huge heart in trying to be resilient after all the years the injury has made him. Now, it's safe to say that he's done. I mean it does look like he had like a short career after being named as the youngest MVP, but I guess he have already accepted his fate.
With a lot of talent in the free agency, I doubt that he can get another veteran deal with any team next season.

That news showed up on my device today too, glad someone shared it, even if it slipped in my mind. It’s good for D Rose that he made his decision to retire; we definitely won’t forget him as the youngest MVP in NBA history, and that achievement alone cements his place in the books. He was explosive back then, but we never really know what the future holds for any player; injuries can end careers, and that’s what happened to him, just slowly over time.

But on the bright side, he earned $166,120,847 throughout his basketball career, not bad at all!

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/earnings/_/id/6095/derrick-rose

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

That kind of expected after he got waived by Memphis. He could have retired much earlier, but his got a huge heart in trying to be resilient after all the years the injury has made him. Now, it's safe to say that he's done. I mean it does look like he had like a short career after being named as the youngest MVP, but I guess he have already accepted his fate.
With a lot of talent in the free agency, I doubt that he can get another veteran deal with any team next season.

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Its hard to say that current Lakers roster is title contender since they don't do any big moves this season. So provably that this year there's nothing much to expect for their team so fans should lower down their expectation that Lakers would win a championship.

Throughout the offseason, the Lakers have not been in the trading news as often as fans would like. Honestly, I don't see any significant improvement in their roster compared to last season. So I'm inclined to think that either the play-in tournament or the first round of the playoffs will be the cap for the Lakers in the upcoming season.

Do you think drafting Bronny doesn’t really make a big difference? Tongue

Honestly, they’re pretty much the same team, but it seems they trust their current roster, believing that the real issue last season was the coaching style. With a new coach, who they think is an upgrade over Darvin Ham, there’s an expectation for the team to improve. I like where the Lakers stand now...there’s not too much hype around them. This makes me consider placing a future bet on them, as their odds are high, which to me means value. I have a feeling we might be surprised this coming season, but not because of Bronny. Just to clarify my stance on that.

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Quote from: avp2306 on September 26, 2024, 06:18:21 PM

Its hard to say that current Lakers roster is title contender since they don't do any big moves this season. So provably that this year there's nothing much to expect for their team so fans should lower down their expectation that Lakers would win a championship.

Throughout the offseason, the Lakers have not been in the trading news as often as fans would like. Honestly, I don't see any significant improvement in their roster compared to last season. So I'm inclined to think that either the play-in tournament or the first round of the playoffs will be the cap for the Lakers in the upcoming season.

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Quote from: avp2306 on September 26, 2024, 06:18:21 PM

We don't know what's gonna happen if there's no influence intervention gonna happen since Bronny still have a chance to get drafted since he's decent player anyways.

Sorry but I 100% have to disagree on that. If he wasn't Lebron's son he would have NEVER been drafted this summer, and I mean never.
Was was already just drafted 55th overall and I honestly believe if the draft had 100 players to be drafted he wouldn't have a chance to make the cut.
Don't forget, he played for a USC team that had the worst record in years only winning 8 or 20 games. And even on a bad team like this he only managed to get under 5ppg (with terrible shooting splits), under 3 rebounds per game and around 2 assists per game in almost 20 min playing time.
These numbers say one thing, NOT NBA READY.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 26, 2024, 06:11:44 PM

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 07:33:35 AM

That's the advantage, LeBron uses his influence to make things possible for his son and there's nothing we can do about that, Lakers knows how to run their business and they use that edge giving James Jr a decent contract, like what you mentioned basing from his past stats we can't expect too much from him, just watch when the regular season's start and see if there's improvements that he can contribute to his team.

Lebron even had a say to the roster with the teams that he was in. So, obviously the decision of picking his son by the Lakers was already intact even before.

That's because he has mentioned that whichever team picks his son, he'll also go there. On the business side, Lakers takes this but they still have a good roster though.

Let's see how Bronny will be given the playing time there, but I am not expecting a lot from him.

Well there was never really a chance of any other team picking Bronny anyway since Rich Paul (their agent) called all the teams to let them know that if they pick Bronny he will got to Australia and they wasted their pick on him. So LA was the only real landing spot for him anyway after this.
I don't see the team as being competitive. Their best player ( AD ) is injury prone and LBJ obviously is turning 39 end of this year, so you can't expect him to carry the work load over a 82 game regular season as well. Who else is there to carry the team? I don't see anybody.

We don't know what's gonna happen if there's no influence intervention gonna happen since Bronny still have a chance to get drafted since he's decent player anyways. Also he has a name on basketball scene so provably the hype he could bring is useful for other team. What I think other team could use him as LBJ kryptonite since provably that he will not do any nasty action to his son in court. But guess teams made already a deal that Bronny will go to Lakers that's why they didn't interfere this event to happen. But let see how LBJ and Bronny will perform together if we can see something exciting with their duo or team up.

Its hard to say that current Lakers roster is title contender since they don't do any big moves this season. So provably that this year there's nothing much to expect for their team so fans should lower down their expectation that Lakers would win a championship.

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Quote from: livingfree on September 26, 2024, 06:03:00 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 07:33:35 AM

That's the advantage, LeBron uses his influence to make things possible for his son and there's nothing we can do about that, Lakers knows how to run their business and they use that edge giving James Jr a decent contract, like what you mentioned basing from his past stats we can't expect too much from him, just watch when the regular season's start and see if there's improvements that he can contribute to his team.

Lebron even had a say to the roster with the teams that he was in. So, obviously the decision of picking his son by the Lakers was already intact even before.

That's because he has mentioned that whichever team picks his son, he'll also go there. On the business side, Lakers takes this but they still have a good roster though.

Let's see how Bronny will be given the playing time there, but I am not expecting a lot from him.

Well there was never really a chance of any other team picking Bronny anyway since Rich Paul (their agent) called all the teams to let them know that if they pick Bronny he will got to Australia and they wasted their pick on him. So LA was the only real landing spot for him anyway after this.
I don't see the team as being competitive. Their best player ( AD ) is injury prone and LBJ obviously is turning 39 end of this year, so you can't expect him to carry the work load over a 82 game regular season as well. Who else is there to carry the team? I don't see anybody.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 07:33:35 AM

That's the advantage, LeBron uses his influence to make things possible for his son and there's nothing we can do about that, Lakers knows how to run their business and they use that edge giving James Jr a decent contract, like what you mentioned basing from his past stats we can't expect too much from him, just watch when the regular season's start and see if there's improvements that he can contribute to his team.

Lebron even had a say to the roster with the teams that he was in. So, obviously the decision of picking his son by the Lakers was already intact even before.

That's because he has mentioned that whichever team picks his son, he'll also go there. On the business side, Lakers takes this but they still have a good roster though.

Let's see how Bronny will be given the playing time there, but I am not expecting a lot from him.

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Yeah I seen that amd pre knee injury dude was insane. Had such a smooth game, didn't talk just let his game play. He was going to be one of the best points to do it but that knee injury killed that all off. Was a huge D rose fan. He was so much better than russ and that's not a knock on russ, just how good dude was.

One of the most athletic point guards to ever do it. I definitely enjoyed watching him play that MVP season. I’m going to go the other way though and say that he didn’t deserve the MVP that year. He won because they didn’t want LeBron to keep winning every year. When they met in the playoffs, LeBron shut Rose down hard and showed who the real MVP was.

Can't hate on that take. Pretty much any year lebron has been in the league after his first couple of years ypu can make the argument for him. Just think he was a fresh new look in the NBA which probably swayed some voters. My favorite point guard to watch besides AI.

AI was something special. I doubt we’ll ever see another like him. I just wish he didn’t stop dunking when he got in the NBA. His highlight reel at Georgetown is insane.

AI, John Wall, Russell Westbrook, Penny Hardaway, Derrick Rose… they were all some thing special in that they had the skill set to play point guard but could also dunk over anyone in the league.

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One of the most athletic point guards to ever do it. I definitely enjoyed watching him play that MVP season. I’m going to go the other way though and say that he didn’t deserve the MVP that year. He won because they didn’t want LeBron to keep winning every year. When they met in the playoffs, LeBron shut Rose down hard and showed who the real MVP was.

Can't hate on that take. Pretty much any year lebron has been in the league after his first couple of years ypu can make the argument for him. Just think he was a fresh new look in the NBA which probably swayed some voters. My favorite point guard to watch besides AI.

That is definitely something Lebron had to fight so many times in a row. Lebron could have like 6-7 MVP's by now looking at the stats and what he did, probably even more. This dude turns a team that would normally tank, into a team that will go to finals, so it's clear that we are going to see Lebron deserving a lot more, but you can't just keep giving MVP to same player every single season.

From his first stint at Cavs, to his Miami years, to his second stint at Cavs, dude could have won as much as 10 if you just sway a little bit to him. But MVP (unlike ballon) is given to different players very frequently, people dislike giving it to same person too many times in a row, and they do two in a row at best, then start looking for others.

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Yeah I seen that amd pre knee injury dude was insane. Had such a smooth game, didn't talk just let his game play. He was going to be one of the best points to do it but that knee injury killed that all off. Was a huge D rose fan. He was so much better than russ and that's not a knock on russ, just how good dude was.

One of the most athletic point guards to ever do it. I definitely enjoyed watching him play that MVP season. I’m going to go the other way though and say that he didn’t deserve the MVP that year. He won because they didn’t want LeBron to keep winning every year. When they met in the playoffs, LeBron shut Rose down hard and showed who the real MVP was.

Can't hate on that take. Pretty much any year lebron has been in the league after his first couple of years ypu can make the argument for him. Just think he was a fresh new look in the NBA which probably swayed some voters. My favorite point guard to watch besides AI.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 26, 2024, 10:23:22 AM

Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Yeah I seen that amd pre knee injury dude was insane. Had such a smooth game, didn't talk just let his game play. He was going to be one of the best points to do it but that knee injury killed that all off. Was a huge D rose fan. He was so much better than russ and that's not a knock on russ, just how good dude was.

One of the most athletic point guards to ever do it. I definitely enjoyed watching him play that MVP season. I’m going to go the other way though and say that he didn’t deserve the MVP that year. He won because they didn’t want LeBron to keep winning every year. When they met in the playoffs, LeBron shut Rose down hard and showed who the real MVP was.

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Yeah I seen that amd pre knee injury dude was insane. Had such a smooth game, didn't talk just let his game play. He was going to be one of the best points to do it but that knee injury killed that all off. Was a huge D rose fan. He was so much better than russ and that's not a knock on russ, just how good dude was.

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

I am really sad about what happened to Derrick Rose but that is the life of an athlete. Sometimes you continue your goal with great health and sometimes you will be injured which could ruin your career. Many players have gone through the same thing as him but still, what he showed during his prime was so amazing and entertaining.
I could still remember my colleagues non-stop talking about him every day about how great he is and how he will become a champion someday. Sadly, that never happened in his career but I am still happy to be a part of the viewers for his very entertaining show in Chicago.

Retiring. He is just 35 years old but I think he feels that his career is already below and no one will pay for him anymore. Maybe this is the best decision so that he will be remembered for how solid of a player he was back in the Bulls' days.

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In short he is not NBA ready, and for sure they will be rough against him. I can't imagine other players, even rookie or sophomore trash talking Bronny, as we have found out that he shouldn't be in the league for now, but because he is the son of Lebron, Lakers have no choice but to get him.

So I'm anticipating him like guarding lots of young players like him, like Jalen Green for example of the Houston Rockets. And if Bronny but any chance guard this kid, then there could be some trash talking and it will be good to see what will be the reaction of Bronny. Grin

Bronny has his whole career ahead of him. He just entered the major league and it is difficult for him to adapt to everything new. Let the boy get used to the new circumstances and then the game will go up. Not everything at once. Yes, there may be difficulties at the very beginning, but this goes away with experience. So do not pay attention to this now. Let everything go its own way and there is no need to rush things.

We never know what future will be it's a matter of experienced and enough playing time, if he got that chance then maybe he'll improve something but for sure criticizm will always be there as many eyes from those people who loves to attract readers and viewers will drag his name to earn clicks and views.

Along the way, he got his paycheck critics will get their views and both sides will benefits from it, he just need to get use of it.

It's not that we don't know his future, but we can look back at his stats and there are videos of him playing already in the NBA. And by that, we can see how good or bad he is as let's say compare to his father.

If he wanted enough playing time, then he should at least finished his college. But I guess Lebron can't wait for that as they wanted to make a history in the sports. So he was drafted by the Lakers and now it's going to be a make or break for him.

That's the advantage, LeBron uses his influence to make things possible for his son and there's nothing we can do about that, Lakers knows how to run their business and they use that edge giving James Jr a decent contract, like what you mentioned basing from his past stats we can't expect too much from him, just watch when the regular season's start and see if there's improvements that he can contribute to his team.

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

First it was Grizzlies waiving his contract and now, it's just the recent about his retirement. He even posted a cryptic video on his socials.

Well, he doesn't have an extravagant retirement and many probably are surprised with his announcement. He can enjoy his life with his family.

That's what retirement is for or he can pursue other things and continue his love and passion for the ball.

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I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 03:01:47 AM

Quote from: fruktik on September 26, 2024, 12:49:04 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on September 25, 2024, 10:33:11 PM

In short he is not NBA ready, and for sure they will be rough against him. I can't imagine other players, even rookie or sophomore trash talking Bronny, as we have found out that he shouldn't be in the league for now, but because he is the son of Lebron, Lakers have no choice but to get him.

So I'm anticipating him like guarding lots of young players like him, like Jalen Green for example of the Houston Rockets. And if Bronny but any chance guard this kid, then there could be some trash talking and it will be good to see what will be the reaction of Bronny. Grin

Bronny has his whole career ahead of him. He just entered the major league and it is difficult for him to adapt to everything new. Let the boy get used to the new circumstances and then the game will go up. Not everything at once. Yes, there may be difficulties at the very beginning, but this goes away with experience. So do not pay attention to this now. Let everything go its own way and there is no need to rush things.

We never know what future will be it's a matter of experienced and enough playing time, if he got that chance then maybe he'll improve something but for sure criticizm will always be there as many eyes from those people who loves to attract readers and viewers will drag his name to earn clicks and views.

Along the way, he got his paycheck critics will get their views and both sides will benefits from it, he just need to get use of it.

It's not that we don't know his future, but we can look back at his stats and there are videos of him playing already in the NBA. And by that, we can see how good or bad he is as let's say compare to his father.

If he wanted enough playing time, then he should at least finished his college. But I guess Lebron can't wait for that as they wanted to make a history in the sports. So he was drafted by the Lakers and now it's going to be a make or break for him.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 25, 2024, 10:33:11 PM

In short he is not NBA ready, and for sure they will be rough against him. I can't imagine other players, even rookie or sophomore trash talking Bronny, as we have found out that he shouldn't be in the league for now, but because he is the son of Lebron, Lakers have no choice but to get him.

So I'm anticipating him like guarding lots of young players like him, like Jalen Green for example of the Houston Rockets. And if Bronny but any chance guard this kid, then there could be some trash talking and it will be good to see what will be the reaction of Bronny. Grin

Bronny has his whole career ahead of him. He just entered the major league and it is difficult for him to adapt to everything new. Let the boy get used to the new circumstances and then the game will go up. Not everything at once. Yes, there may be difficulties at the very beginning, but this goes away with experience. So do not pay attention to this now. Let everything go its own way and there is no need to rush things.

But he is the son of Lebron James, that's why all attention is on him and how fans are not going to react to it. Initially we say that he is not yet ready, so be it, it's either he should displayed what to be expect of him or just be another player who didn't get the chance to show his talent. So everything is on him and we can't blame fans and players alike to treat him differently.

So you do think with no college experience and we have seen him play is enough for him to be in the league with the big boys? What if they rough him up? So it's really up to him on how he is going to response and it's better for him to be tested this early.

Yeah after watching him he won't play any meaningful minutes on an NBA floor in a regular season game. In college against kids he shot under 40% from 2s, under 30% from 3s and mid 60s from the free throw line. Same in the summer league. At his height you need to be an elite sharpshooter to make it. An undersize guard who can't shoot 2s, 3s or even free throws at a clip better than a big man is useless in the NBA. He gets some charity minutes on the floor with dad then off to the g league where he will get embarrassed off the court.

Honestly selfish by Bron if ypu ask me. Might kill the kid before he even gets started. He definitely needed a couple of years in college to get used to the next level.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 26, 2024, 12:24:37 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on September 25, 2024, 10:33:11 PM

In short he is not NBA ready, and for sure they will be rough against him. I can't imagine other players, even rookie or sophomore trash talking Bronny, as we have found out that he shouldn't be in the league for now, but because he is the son of Lebron, Lakers have no choice but to get him.

So I'm anticipating him like guarding lots of young players like him, like Jalen Green for example of the Houston Rockets. And if Bronny but any chance guard this kid, then there could be some trash talking and it will be good to see what will be the reaction of Bronny. Grin

Isn't Bronny embarrassed yet? I mean, even before being drafted, a lot of people were already criticizing him since everyone knows he'll likely get drafted due to LeBron's connections and influence with the Lakers. I think we shouldn't criticize him too much, as we already know his capabilities. Instead, consider it a gift to LeBron, who sees playing with his son as one of his greatest fulfillments.

I do agree, with Lebron influence, it's obvious that we will see getting drafted by no less than the Lakers. And then we are hinting on a history between the two, first father and son duo to play in the NBA, so that is already huge.

And talking about the Lakers, their new coach, JJ Reddick said that their starting five will be

Lebron
AD
Rui
Reaves
D'Lo

That's their starting five from last year, so it's good that JJ are not going to chance any for the upcoming season as it looks solid already.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lakers-coach-jj-redick-reveals-teams-starting-lineup-before-training-camp-005437073.html

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