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July 09, 2024, 09:01:27 PM
LeBron being voted as the best player on team USA by his peers is pretty crazy. He’s pushing 40 years old and the best players on the planet still think he’s the best of the best. Looking forward to seeing them start playing other teams this week. Anthony Edwards on the floor with Stephen Curry might be something special.
They did it out of respect. At least that's what I see that's why they voted him. I mean who in the USA team has as many achievements as Lebron has right now? There's no that comes close, not even Steph Curry or Durant. I see Lebron as one of the best NBA players ever played despite the controversies and his abuse in his power, but this USA team is just very dangerous in the Paris Olympics, aren't they?

Knicks are being overestimated without a doubt. They are in discussion with being similar to Celtics? Give me a break, not even a single player in Knicks could be considered good enough to be in Celtics, that's not the case at all.

We should consider the fact that Knicks are not doing that well and we will not see them do any better or greater, we are going to see them be a playoff level team and that's it nothing more. That should be the level they are stuck at now because they gave away their picks as well. Do not overestimate them, do not expect a finals from them, it requires a huge miracle for that group of players to be there, the skill level and the talent they have is nowhere to be close to what other teams have.
The Knicks are better with their current line up, but I should say that they are nowhere near the Celtics. The Celtics are still the kings of the East. Whoever said that the Knicks are as equal as the Celtics in terms of talent might be a bit bias and probably a Knicks fan. Cheesy

Anyway, I don't like how Thibs played his players during the playoffs. Hart, DiVincenzo and Brunson played more than 40+ minutes in most of their playoff games and there are times where Hart played every second of the game. That's not sustainable for a player in the long run. The Knicks doesn't have any reliable center since they gave away Hartenstein to the Thunder. They need a big that will help them defend the paint. The Celtics proved already that they are the Kings of the East because they won. Knicks? They even lost to the young Pacers team last playoffs. It's nowhere near.
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July 09, 2024, 07:04:24 PM
Knicks are being overestimated without a doubt. They are in discussion with being similar to Celtics? Give me a break, not even a single player in Knicks could be considered good enough to be in Celtics, that's not the case at all.

We should consider the fact that Knicks are not doing that well and we will not see them do any better or greater, we are going to see them be a playoff level team and that's it nothing more. That should be the level they are stuck at now because they gave away their picks as well. Do not overestimate them, do not expect a finals from them, it requires a huge miracle for that group of players to be there, the skill level and the talent they have is nowhere to be close to what other teams have.

I tend to agree with you. I thought they overperformed like crazy last year and some people started overestimating players like Brunson. This year I think they’re going to face much harder competition as teams begin game planning for them. I should also admit I hate the Knicks and have since the Ewing days.
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July 09, 2024, 03:41:49 PM
Knicks are being overestimated without a doubt. They are in discussion with being similar to Celtics? Give me a break, not even a single player in Knicks could be considered good enough to be in Celtics, that's not the case at all.

We should consider the fact that Knicks are not doing that well and we will not see them do any better or greater, we are going to see them be a playoff level team and that's it nothing more. That should be the level they are stuck at now because they gave away their picks as well. Do not overestimate them, do not expect a finals from them, it requires a huge miracle for that group of players to be there, the skill level and the talent they have is nowhere to be close to what other teams have.
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July 09, 2024, 02:11:13 PM
As for the Summer League, no I'm not going to bet or even watch the games, might be better to see the FIBA Olympics qualifiers over the NBA for now.
The practice of Team USA versus Team Select was even worthier to watch than the Summer League's.

I agree that I'd watch more of the Olympics qualifier matches even if they're replays than of the SLs.  Tongue

No hate but that's the reality, SL is like testing waters to check the teams who are they gonna continue to sign or not.
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July 09, 2024, 01:40:54 PM
LeBron being voted as the best player on team USA by his peers is pretty crazy. He’s pushing 40 years old and the best players on the planet still think he’s the best of the best. Looking forward to seeing them start playing other teams this week. Anthony Edwards on the floor with Stephen Curry might be something special.
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July 09, 2024, 10:11:55 AM
Look how Bronny perform on his past summer league performance he didn't end up well. So I guess Lakers already have a short glimpse of possible what performance he can provide to them. I guess Lakers just hire professional cheer leader in their bench and it seems that they will end up in bad place again this season. Hopefully there would be a better adjustment and improvements since its still good to see Lebron on Playoffs.

It's just Bronny's first steps in the NBA, but I don't think anyone expects anything special from him anyway. After all, if a player couldn't prove himself in the NCAA, the chance that he will be able to prove himself in the NBA will tend to be zero. Moreover, I think Bronny is also emotionally pressured by his father's status and his influence in the league.

If he felt pressured, he should not have applied for the draft, but he did and got a chance to play in the NBA. I think this is by far his biggest achievement in his career as a professional basketball player. However, his statistics are not even close to his father's. The pressure was already high when he was still in the NCAA. Being the son of a future Hall of Famer, that's normal. But I'm sure he can handle that pressure as he is not the only son of a Hall of Famer who is not as good as his father. Even the sons of Michael Jordan are not in the NBA.
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July 09, 2024, 09:41:17 AM
Look how Bronny perform on his past summer league performance he didn't end up well. So I guess Lakers already have a short glimpse of possible what performance he can provide to them. I guess Lakers just hire professional cheer leader in their bench and it seems that they will end up in bad place again this season. Hopefully there would be a better adjustment and improvements since its still good to see Lebron on Playoffs.

It's just Bronny's first steps in the NBA, but I don't think anyone expects anything special from him anyway. After all, if a player couldn't prove himself in the NCAA, the chance that he will be able to prove himself in the NBA will tend to be zero. Moreover, I think Bronny is also emotionally pressured by his father's status and his influence in the league.
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July 09, 2024, 09:24:14 AM
Lakers management especially Pelinka seems not really good to handle their team and it seems he always commit bad decision which Lakers would suffer at the end.

Yeah, I don't know what Pelinka is still with the Lakers though, after winning a ring, all his decisions, including coaches are all failure and I don't understand why Jeannie Buss still keeps him. They should have fired him after the season that they won their championship. And now, they will have to chase to stay abreast with the Boston Celtics, as they won their 18 championship as compare to the Lakers which stands at 17.

The thing is they always blame their issues to their coach or to other people, while the fact is their management already been fuck up. If Pelinka will be fired out on his position due to his carelessness also wrong judgement of a lot of things in their organization then provably they can get their 18th championship. Boston now is ahead of 1 championship with them and I guess it will be so hard for Lakers to win a championship next season especially that they didn't made a good move on free agency plus the players they get from draft is not so really good especially Bronny. Lakers is just pure entertainment team and for sure they will be in talks because of controversy and circus happening on their team.

That's how it is, they will always have to put the blame on the coach, and that' why we said that their job tenure is not safe even if they have been awarded by a good contract, they can still be terminated but not the President or Vice President for Operations, they are untouchable unless it's the owner that will decide that they will have to find a new one and fire them but it will cost them a lot of money.

No offense to Bronny, but it seems that it's nepotism that really prevail that's they Rob Pelinka pick him at 55th. If not for Lebron's influence, his son will not be pick up any any team in the NBA in my opinion. So the Lakers will have to lose in the trade again as they didn't pick up good players to bolster their lineup.

But even they are not performing that well as long the business is doing good I guess the managements will keep him, that's how it works  more on the money side, I also feel that they are not bringing a competitive squad or preparing for the next season though they still have the trade deadlines if they also considering to be competitive but in this early stage not seeing that move aside from hiring a new coach and drafting controversial rookie.

No offense but it's the reality in terms of bringing Bronny to the team to keep LeBron considering him as still good for marketing and continue bringing money to the franchise.
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July 09, 2024, 09:01:47 AM
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Completely agree with what everybody has said about the Summer League games:
They are not something to bet on because they are just for teams to feel out the new prospects they had signed on to their teams and nothing more.
The players don't take it serious and just mess about on court just as it was back in the days on the street ball summers they had growing up.
It is worse than Pre-season matches from a betting perspective.
But it is basketball and for those who need their fix for this league now til the NBA season starts up again.

I could bet on the total but not on a team to win. The staregy here is very simple, not sure if it's a winning strategy but I have a feeling that most of the time the overe will hit since it does look like an exhibition games, so there will be less defense will result to higher points production. The same strategy I'm  using during the preseason as well.
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July 09, 2024, 08:48:46 AM
Lakers management especially Pelinka seems not really good to handle their team and it seems he always commit bad decision which Lakers would suffer at the end.

Yeah, I don't know what Pelinka is still with the Lakers though, after winning a ring, all his decisions, including coaches are all failure and I don't understand why Jeannie Buss still keeps him. They should have fired him after the season that they won their championship. And now, they will have to chase to stay abreast with the Boston Celtics, as they won their 18 championship as compare to the Lakers which stands at 17.

The thing is they always blame their issues to their coach or to other people, while the fact is their management already been fuck up. If Pelinka will be fired out on his position due to his carelessness also wrong judgement of a lot of things in their organization then provably they can get their 18th championship. Boston now is ahead of 1 championship with them and I guess it will be so hard for Lakers to win a championship next season especially that they didn't made a good move on free agency plus the players they get from draft is not so really good especially Bronny. Lakers is just pure entertainment team and for sure they will be in talks because of controversy and circus happening on their team.

That's how it is, they will always have to put the blame on the coach, and that' why we said that their job tenure is not safe even if they have been awarded by a good contract, they can still be terminated but not the President or Vice President for Operations, they are untouchable unless it's the owner that will decide that they will have to find a new one and fire them but it will cost them a lot of money.

No offense to Bronny, but it seems that it's nepotism that really prevail that's they Rob Pelinka pick him at 55th. If not for Lebron's influence, his son will not be pick up any any team in the NBA in my opinion. So the Lakers will have to lose in the trade again as they didn't pick up good players to bolster their lineup.
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July 09, 2024, 05:39:30 AM
Lakers management especially Pelinka seems not really good to handle their team and it seems he always commit bad decision which Lakers would suffer at the end.

Yeah, I don't know what Pelinka is still with the Lakers though, after winning a ring, all his decisions, including coaches are all failure and I don't understand why Jeannie Buss still keeps him. They should have fired him after the season that they won their championship. And now, they will have to chase to stay abreast with the Boston Celtics, as they won their 18 championship as compare to the Lakers which stands at 17.

The thing is they always blame their issues to their coach or to other people, while the fact is their management already been fuck up. If Pelinka will be fired out on his position due to his carelessness also wrong judgement of a lot of things in their organization then provably they can get their 18th championship. Boston now is ahead of 1 championship with them and I guess it will be so hard for Lakers to win a championship next season especially that they didn't made a good move on free agency plus the players they get from draft is not so really good especially Bronny. Lakers is just pure entertainment team and for sure they will be in talks because of controversy and circus happening on their team.

I do agree, he has been firing coach after coach and yet the way he builds his team? Is lacking. Now, DeRozan is with the Kings and Buddy Hield a shooter that they want, is with the Warriors, and then they left go of Klay as well? And what they got? Bronnie James? Lol. So how long will the Lakers need to suffer and allow Rob Pelinka to lead them to another disaster year?

As for the Summer League, no I'm not going to bet or even watch the games, might be better to see the FIBA Olympics qualifiers over the NBA for now.



They didn't get impressive addition this free agency and its like they are just hyping up their crowd to make it look likes they still do better. But in reality they didn't get much great acquisitions and what they currently do is pure entertainment.

Look how Bronny perform on his past summer league performance he didn't end up well. So I guess Lakers already have a short glimpse of possible what performance he can provide to them. I guess Lakers just hire professional cheer leader in their bench and it seems that they will end up in bad place again this season. Hopefully there would be a better adjustment and improvements since its still good to see Lebron on Playoffs.
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July 09, 2024, 05:18:44 AM
^^
Completely agree with what everybody has said about the Summer League games:
They are not something to bet on because they are just for teams to feel out the new prospects they had signed on to their teams and nothing more.
The players don't take it serious and just mess about on court just as it was back in the days on the street ball summers they had growing up.
It is worse than Pre-season matches from a betting perspective.
But it is basketball and for those who need their fix for this league now til the NBA season starts up again.
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July 09, 2024, 04:43:57 AM
Lakers management especially Pelinka seems not really good to handle their team and it seems he always commit bad decision which Lakers would suffer at the end.

Yeah, I don't know what Pelinka is still with the Lakers though, after winning a ring, all his decisions, including coaches are all failure and I don't understand why Jeannie Buss still keeps him. They should have fired him after the season that they won their championship. And now, they will have to chase to stay abreast with the Boston Celtics, as they won their 18 championship as compare to the Lakers which stands at 17.

The thing is they always blame their issues to their coach or to other people, while the fact is their management already been fuck up. If Pelinka will be fired out on his position due to his carelessness also wrong judgement of a lot of things in their organization then provably they can get their 18th championship. Boston now is ahead of 1 championship with them and I guess it will be so hard for Lakers to win a championship next season especially that they didn't made a good move on free agency plus the players they get from draft is not so really good especially Bronny. Lakers is just pure entertainment team and for sure they will be in talks because of controversy and circus happening on their team.

I do agree, he has been firing coach after coach and yet the way he builds his team? Is lacking. Now, DeRozan is with the Kings and Buddy Hield a shooter that they want, is with the Warriors, and then they left go of Klay as well? And what they got? Bronnie James? Lol. So how long will the Lakers need to suffer and allow Rob Pelinka to lead them to another disaster year?

As for the Summer League, no I'm not going to bet or even watch the games, might be better to see the FIBA Olympics qualifiers over the NBA for now.

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July 09, 2024, 04:34:33 AM
Not sure if anybody noticed but the NBA Summer League started playing yesterday.
I wouldn't have noticed unless somebody didn't say something in my sportschat I frequent to see what events are inprogress.
At first I thought they were talking about an SRL match they were betting on or something.
But then noticed some teams showing up and then put two and two together and said, yeah. It is the Summer Time! NBA is on the menu!
One match that stood out to me was the Charlotte Hornets playing China. Cheesy

I saw post on the Warriors facebook page saying they won, but I didn't know which tournament it was. So, I searched for the start date of the NBA preseason because I thought it was the preseason. It said October 5. I only found out from your post that it was the Summer League. Lol. Anyway, I sometimes watch but I don't bet on the NBA Summer League or preseason, only the NBA regular season.

Betting on NBA Summer League? This must be really crazy, I don't think it's right to do this. In summer, teams are not interested in their own players, but in the players they want to sign a new contract with. Betting on these matches is pure luck, so there is no need to gamble. We already lose a lot of money in the season, there is no need to lose more in the summer Cheesy

Yeah, it's really hard to beat on them, and it's going to be very unpredictable as we know that there could be teams that are going to play very well, and then some just going to the motions of it.

So it's better not to bet and just simply watch those players and I do agree, just save enough, we still have months to go before the start, so at least plenty of rooms for us to move and then just bet when the actual season starts in October. Just take a break or just bet on other professional league and not on NBA Summer league.
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July 08, 2024, 10:19:45 PM
And speaking of KCP, he moved to Orlando from Denver, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope leaves Nuggets, signs with Magic.
It's too bad that the Nuggets management overpaid Michael Porter Jr. because now they can't sign KCP to a new contract yet again. Just for context, the top 3 most paid players in the Nuggets are obviously Jokic, Murray and MPJ. They overpaid Porter Jr, and can't sign KCP that's why he went to the Orlando Magic that has a huge cap space for a veteran like him to sign with. The Magic got lucky to have a good defender, and at the same time, a good three-point shooter as well

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In a vacuum, Mikal Bridges isn't worth five first-round picks and another swap. But in the context of this Knicks team, he is. With OG Anunoby re-signed, the Knicks are one of the few teams that can match the Celtics' blueprint of a whole squad of top-shelf perimeter defenders funneling scorers toward an elite rim protector, which will likely be Mitchell Robinson with Isaiah Hartenstein on his way to Oklahoma City. It's impossible to overstate how much Bridges elevates this already very good team.

I agree. The Knicks are only lacking defensive players because Brunson can already bring chaos on the offensive end. He may be small but he cannot be easily stopped. Hart did try to cover for defense but the effect was exhausting nights with 40+ minutes per game, that cannot happen which is why Bridges is a good addition for their team.
I knew it already. Losing Hartenstein isn't a big problem for them. What made them winners is getting Bridges, and re-signing Anunoby. If Randle will not play on his best self this regular season, I'm afraid they will be trading him to another team... or maybe he's on the trade talks already, but it isn't being publicize yet. Whatever the case it is, the Knicks are winners for now because they got Bridges, Anunoby and they still have a chance to get some since they have draft picks.

If there's something that the Knicks are lacking, it's their interior defense. You can't rely too much on Mitchell Robinson on that as well because he's injury-prone, and right now, he's the only center the Knicks got.
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July 08, 2024, 07:22:41 PM
Betting on NBA Summer League? This must be really crazy, I don't think it's right to do this. In summer, teams are not interested in their own players, but in the players they want to sign a new contract with. Betting on these matches is pure luck, so there is no need to gamble. We already lose a lot of money in the season, there is no need to lose more in the summer Cheesy
I agree.

It's risky and but if you're going to put just a bare amount there, it won't hurt your pocket no matter what the results will be. But if you're going to bet there seriously, don't forget to have fun.

Summer league isn't as serious as the actual season in the NBA and who knows if there are some fixed matches here or just throwing the game as results won't really be important to a team.
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July 08, 2024, 07:15:36 PM
Speaking of summer league, here's some news about Bronny James.

Bronny James has 4 points in summer league debut for Lakers

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James finished with 4 points on 2-for-9 shooting, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 steal in 22 minutes.

"The atmosphere," Bronny said when asked what surprised him the most after the Los Angeles Lakers' 108-94 loss to the Sacramento Kings to open the California Classic.

And they lost to the Kings by 14 points, so Bronny not really the kind of player we are expecting, he is just an ordinary player having the skills of a bench player but he is popular, that's all he is. However, everyone has a chance to grow, hopefully that's the case for Bronny.

I usually don't put any stock into summer game results.  Coaches use to to have players work on certain things.  Some that they might not be all that good at.  How many times have we seen summer league superstars barely get on the edge of a bench in the NBA.  Whereas others have flourished but stunk it up in the summer league.  With that being said at 6'2" bronny doesn't have the explosiveness he would need to succeed in the NBA long term. Don't see his career going anywhere.
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July 08, 2024, 04:53:43 PM
Funny to say but that's reality, it indeed even before LBJ went to Lakers, but for the James family they don't mind them as they still getting their paycheck especially now that Bronny sign his contracts that's sure money for him.
Yup, the hate is there from the fans that don't like them but their paycheck keep on coming for both of them.

Compared to Thanasis, there are also other bench players that have gone through the championship by heating their seat on the bench. No offense, they've earned their spot and Thanasis, I don't see hate on him but pure memes.  Grin

As for Bronny, he's got a lot of time to prove his worth but no doubt that his dad influenced the draft.

Yeah right, not just Thanasis but there are players who win a ring without playing they are more successful compared to those superstar who finished their careers without winning a ring achievements wise.
I can remember that Deandre Jordan was also given some meme like that last year when the Nuggets won a ring.  Grin

But despite that, we don't know what happens during practice game. Maybe that's how they contribute better than our thoughts.
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July 08, 2024, 08:58:01 AM
Lakers management especially Pelinka seems not really good to handle their team and it seems he always commit bad decision which Lakers would suffer at the end.

Yeah, I don't know what Pelinka is still with the Lakers though, after winning a ring, all his decisions, including coaches are all failure and I don't understand why Jeannie Buss still keeps him. They should have fired him after the season that they won their championship. And now, they will have to chase to stay abreast with the Boston Celtics, as they won their 18 championship as compare to the Lakers which stands at 17.

The thing is they always blame their issues to their coach or to other people, while the fact is their management already been fuck up. If Pelinka will be fired out on his position due to his carelessness also wrong judgement of a lot of things in their organization then provably they can get their 18th championship. Boston now is ahead of 1 championship with them and I guess it will be so hard for Lakers to win a championship next season especially that they didn't made a good move on free agency plus the players they get from draft is not so really good especially Bronny. Lakers is just pure entertainment team and for sure they will be in talks because of controversy and circus happening on their team.
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July 08, 2024, 08:41:28 AM
Speaking of summer league, here's some news about Bronny James.

Bronny James has 4 points in summer league debut for Lakers

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James finished with 4 points on 2-for-9 shooting, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 steal in 22 minutes.

"The atmosphere," Bronny said when asked what surprised him the most after the Los Angeles Lakers' 108-94 loss to the Sacramento Kings to open the California Classic.

And they lost to the Kings by 14 points, so Bronny not really the kind of player we are expecting, he is just an ordinary player having the skills of a bench player but he is popular, that's all he is. However, everyone has a chance to grow, hopefully that's the case for Bronny.
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