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Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 28, 2024, 01:28:17 PM

Timberwolves got the better end of this trade IMO, picked up an aging star along with a 3 point threat and a 1st rounder and got rid of an aging star who when on the court is dominant but has isn't always available. Brunson probably upset that 1 of his Villanova guys is gone, btu he will get over it.

KAT is 28, he is in his prime. Wouldn't call him aging at all actually. By the way, Julius Randle is actually older than KAT.
About the Villanova connection, well they got a new one in Bridges and lost DD which is obviously the worse player of those to. So the "swap" Villanova wise was still ok for JB I suppose. Grin

The draft pick has a lot of value I think since it's a Detroit one, unfortunately it's top 13 protected though. I don't see Detroit getting over the hump anytime soon. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Coin_trader on September 28, 2024, 09:47:48 AM

You can check KAT injury history here: https://www.foxsports.com/nba/karl-anthony-towns-player-injuries

He has knee injuries too often, and this is not good for such a player. It seems to me that he will not be able to recover quickly. After all, this is a place that requires constant rest in case of injury. And when to rest if you need to be in the game and show results? Well, not the best story. If you do not pay attention to this problem in time, you can fly out of big-time sports once and for all.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on September 28, 2024, 03:54:41 PM

This all depends on Rnalde staying healthy though, if he gets injured again, then I do not think that recovery will be that easy, plus he needs to adjust to Wolves, so he can't afford to miss that many games this season, he needs to play so that he can get used to until the playoffs.

That's the same as keeping KAT for them, they've got issues about being healthy but it's like that they've taken more in the roster with Randle and DiVicenzo.

Quote from: Fredomago on September 28, 2024, 10:50:31 AM

As per my opinion both KAT and Randle already on their past primes, and both already have another stars who's carrying their teams, AE is now the main man of Timverwolves while New york already got Brunson, these trades will give both stars new chance to help their respective teams, I guess both franchise knew what they are doing for the business, let just wait and see if who's going to maximize the trade and will show much better perfomrmances.

And the same as when Brunson was transferred from Mavs to Knicks, let's see how these transfers will do good for their careers.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 27, 2024, 11:37:18 PM

I actually like the deal for the Knicks. Towns give them some size and also decent 3 point shooting.
Dante is a solid player as well for the Wolfes and tbh I am not a fan of Julius Randle so NY did a good thing moving on from him. He gets injured all the time and his head often seems to be somewhere else. KAT though also has some issues of course, sometimes it feels like he doesn't take things too serious.

But anyway, this deal can benefit both teams, also financially.
I really love those trades that totally come out of nowhere, hopefully we will see some more before the season starts, even though I somehow doubt it.

The Knicks are in need of a big because they can't rely on an injury-prone Mitchell Robinson to defend the paint and it's reported that DiVincenzo doesn't want to have a reduced role on the team hence, he got included in the trade.

If I choose on who's the winner on this trade, I will say the Knicks just because they need a big more than a shooter like Randle and DiVincenzo. Speaking of shooting, we know that Randle averages around 15 shots per game when he's on NYK which is pretty high knowing that he isn't a shooting guard. Now that he's on a team where he isn't the main guy, will he make an adjustment and shoot less so that Edwards will not be affected? Or he will stay the same that will make a high number of shots every single game which might affect the team depending on how good he is on that night.

Like you, I also love these out-of-nowhere trades, and who knows, we might see more in the upcoming days before the regular season starts. It's hard to see which is the winner right now, so let's just see how these 2 teams play on the regular season now that they have a big roster change.

Anyway, KAT and Coach Thibs are on the same team again. Cheesy

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I am not sure if this was a contract thing, like when does contracts end in all these players, maybe Randle has a shorter one. Wolves tried out the big two towers thingy, where they have Gobert and KAT together, and obviously they decided that it doesn't work, and Randle would definitely fit perfectly along with Gobert, he is not short and he can defend but he can be perimeter defender too and he can play from outside on offense too, very good deal.

This all depends on Rnalde staying healthy though, if he gets injured again, then I do not think that recovery will be that easy, plus he needs to adjust to Wolves, so he can't afford to miss that many games this season, he needs to play so that he can get used to until the playoffs.

Wolves showed us this playoff run that the yare better than what people expect them to be, OKC for example finished at the top and still failed at playoffs, but Wolves ended up playing so well at the playoffs and beat most teams, so I think it is clear that this change was a hard one. You do not change something that works, and it worked for them, so changing this makes it harder for Wolves to repeat, or if it all works like intended then they may do even better.

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Timberwolves got the better end of this trade IMO, picked up an aging star along with a 3 point threat and a 1st rounder and got rid of an aging star who when on the court is dominant but has isn't always available. Brunson probably upset that 1 of his Villanova guys is gone, btu he will get over it.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on September 28, 2024, 09:47:48 AM

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A massive trade which popped right out of nowhere have been reportedly completed with the New York Knicks acquiring Karl-Anthony Towns from Timberwolves for Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo and a first round pick (protected) via Detroit. As reported by Shams Charania on X

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1839851169968984211

This is my opinion is quite a disruption deal for both franchise, while I'm really curious to see how it will all play out, I'm currently convinced that it's more of win for the Wolves than for Knicks, I could be wrong, though.

Agreed, KAT is very inconsistent and injury prone while Knicks player that they give up is reliable and versatile. I wonder how Knicks will utilize this trade by giving up a lot of key player that was supposed vital to build a solid team for them.

If you say that KAT is injury prone then why they take that risk to get him? Same with the Wolves as well, Randle is coming off from a injury and we don't know the extend of it. If by unfortunate chance, he got injured again, it could be another season ending and obviously, they will lose the capacity of that big men.

He is literally injured every year. With this big man size and the way he play makes him injury prone that’s why his game play sometimes so play safe because he doesn’t want to have a hard contact frequently or else he will be out again.

Wolves allow this trade since they knew that KAT still has some premium because of his dominating game when he is on it. They already have Gobert as big man while the addition will be very good to help ANT have some space which KAT can’t provide consistently.

You can check KAT injury history here: https://www.foxsports.com/nba/karl-anthony-towns-player-injuries

As per my opinion both KAT and Randle already on their past primes, and both already have another stars who's carrying their teams, AE is now the main man of Timverwolves while New york already got Brunson, these trades will give both stars new chance to help their respective teams, I guess both franchise knew what they are doing for the business, let just wait and see if who's going to maximize the trade and will show much better perfomrmances.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on September 28, 2024, 09:47:48 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on September 27, 2024, 10:01:20 PM

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Quote from: Harkorede on September 27, 2024, 09:43:58 PM

A massive trade which popped right out of nowhere have been reportedly completed with the New York Knicks acquiring Karl-Anthony Towns from Timberwolves for Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo and a first round pick (protected) via Detroit. As reported by Shams Charania on X

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1839851169968984211

This is my opinion is quite a disruption deal for both franchise, while I'm really curious to see how it will all play out, I'm currently convinced that it's more of win for the Wolves than for Knicks, I could be wrong, though.

Agreed, KAT is very inconsistent and injury prone while Knicks player that they give up is reliable and versatile. I wonder how Knicks will utilize this trade by giving up a lot of key player that was supposed vital to build a solid team for them.

If you say that KAT is injury prone then why they take that risk to get him? Same with the Wolves as well, Randle is coming off from a injury and we don't know the extend of it. If by unfortunate chance, he got injured again, it could be another season ending and obviously, they will lose the capacity of that big men.

He is literally injured every year. With this big man size and the way he play makes him injury prone that’s why his game play sometimes so play safe because he doesn’t want to have a hard contact frequently or else he will be out again.

Wolves allow this trade since they knew that KAT still has some premium because of his dominating game when he is on it. They already have Gobert as big man while the addition will be very good to help ANT have some space which KAT can’t provide consistently.

You can check KAT injury history here: https://www.foxsports.com/nba/karl-anthony-towns-player-injuries

Yeah KAT has his history of getting injured and since he started his nba career early in age 28 is pretty "old". Knicks locked in on him for 4 years. Leon rose was his agent before he came to the Knicks as the GM. I'm sure between that and playing for thibs already was a key factor in all of this. Can't figure out if this is a good deal or bad. I guess Knicks running with OG at the 4 at this point. Leaves a huge hole if OG gets injured too. Wish the Knicks just stayed pat would have been fine with the squad adding mikal amd run with that. Will never see the nova Knicks on the court all at once.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 27, 2024, 10:01:20 PM

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A massive trade which popped right out of nowhere have been reportedly completed with the New York Knicks acquiring Karl-Anthony Towns from Timberwolves for Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo and a first round pick (protected) via Detroit. As reported by Shams Charania on X

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1839851169968984211

This is my opinion is quite a disruption deal for both franchise, while I'm really curious to see how it will all play out, I'm currently convinced that it's more of win for the Wolves than for Knicks, I could be wrong, though.

Agreed, KAT is very inconsistent and injury prone while Knicks player that they give up is reliable and versatile. I wonder how Knicks will utilize this trade by giving up a lot of key player that was supposed vital to build a solid team for them.

If you say that KAT is injury prone then why they take that risk to get him? Same with the Wolves as well, Randle is coming off from a injury and we don't know the extend of it. If by unfortunate chance, he got injured again, it could be another season ending and obviously, they will lose the capacity of that big men.

He is literally injured every year. With this big man size and the way he play makes him injury prone that’s why his game play sometimes so play safe because he doesn’t want to have a hard contact frequently or else he will be out again.

Wolves allow this trade since they knew that KAT still has some premium because of his dominating game when he is on it. They already have Gobert as big man while the addition will be very good to help ANT have some space which KAT can’t provide consistently.

You can check KAT injury history here: https://www.foxsports.com/nba/karl-anthony-towns-player-injuries

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 28, 2024, 12:28:37 AM

Karl Anthony Towns is a great player. I’m actually a little surprised they would let him go and not Rudy Gobert, but I think Anthony Edwards wanted to be the number 1 option on the Timberwolves.

Maybe Gobert is next until then find another big man. But for them, I guess they'd take and keep the DPOY than KAT. Looks that the Timberwolves are changing the circles of Edwards for his development. Anderson, KAT and maybe we'd see more trades but they'll keep ANT as their franchise player.

Quote from: OgNasty on September 28, 2024, 12:28:37 AM

I’m not sure how Randle will fit in on Minnesota, so to me that is the big question mark with this trade. I’m expecting Ant to have a breakout year statistically though.

Randle is a choker for crucial games but as everyone is saying maybe it will change and both are winners to their own perspective by doing this trade. It's funny that these teams are announcing the trades first with the media before they announce it to the players being traded. KATs comment was "stunned".

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He has played a handful of games ypu can't say he is a choker based on a small sample set. Dude is a bully and one of the most underappreciated 4 in the game. Throws up 25/10/5 in his sleep. As a knicks fan I don't like the trade. I know they needed a 5 but I like a good traditional 5 one that doesn't sit outside the 3 point line. He does fill a gap that Robinson filled with him being out to start the year. Hope KAT can stay on the court.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 28, 2024, 04:51:02 AM

I don't know what the Minnesota Timberwolves were thinking when they made that move. Yeah, the KAT trade.
https://www.nba.com/news/karl-anthony-towns-trade-knicks-timberwolves
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Per Shams Charania and Jon Krawczynski of The Athletic, New York is adding All-Star big man Karl-Anthony Towns, sending back All-Star forward Julius Randle to the Timberwolves, along with guard Donte DiVincenzo and a protected first-round pick (via Detroit).

KAT may have made some mistakes in the Western Conference Finals but he did come back strong in Game 4. He just needed that experience and I bet he is somewhat confused because he had never been there. They just wasted a now experienced KAT although I would not say they acquired bad players.

I think there could be some noises inside the Wolves dugout, and I surmise that they might have felt that KAT didn't give his everything at their playoff and blame him. That usually happens in a team, I have hinted that it could be some player as well, but who knows.

Quote from: danherbias07 on September 28, 2024, 04:51:02 AM

Also, what is the Knicks thinking about wasting away Donte DiVincenzo? Dude is a hero in the playoffs stepping up his game and the chemistry with Brunson and Hart was so strong that they can defeat teams even without OG and Randle when they are injured. What both teams did was so surprising and I think they are taking a big risk here. I hope it works out for them.

Yeah, I see some highlights of Donte during his stint with the Knicks and that killer 3's. For sure they could have other players to step in for him and they are filled with shooting guards. But we can't take that away from him, on what he did in the Knicks and fans surely love him for that. As for Randle, I might have been a few who thinks that he is going to be traded as we have seen Jalen Brunson's performance. And the management thinks that he is no longer needed.

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I don't know what the Minnesota Timberwolves were thinking when they made that move. Yeah, the KAT trade.
https://www.nba.com/news/karl-anthony-towns-trade-knicks-timberwolves
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Per Shams Charania and Jon Krawczynski of The Athletic, New York is adding All-Star big man Karl-Anthony Towns, sending back All-Star forward Julius Randle to the Timberwolves, along with guard Donte DiVincenzo and a protected first-round pick (via Detroit).

KAT may have made some mistakes in the Western Conference Finals but he did come back strong in Game 4. He just needed that experience and I bet he is somewhat confused because he had never been there. They just wasted a now experienced KAT although I would not say they acquired bad players.

Also, what is the Knicks thinking about wasting away Donte DiVincenzo? Dude is a hero in the playoffs stepping up his game and the chemistry with Brunson and Hart was so strong that they can defeat teams even without OG and Randle when they are injured. What both teams did was so surprising and I think they are taking a big risk here. I hope it works out for them.

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Quote from: Harkorede on September 27, 2024, 09:43:58 PM

A massive trade which popped right out of nowhere have been reportedly completed with the New York Knicks acquiring Karl-Anthony Towns from Timberwolves for Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo and a first round pick (protected) via Detroit. As reported by Shams Charania on X

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1839851169968984211

This is my opinion is quite a disruption deal for both franchise, while I'm really curious to see how it will all play out, I'm currently convinced that it's more of win for the Wolves than for Knicks, I could be wrong, though.

Agreed, KAT is very inconsistent and injury prone while Knicks player that they give up is reliable and versatile. I wonder how Knicks will utilize this trade by giving up a lot of key player that was supposed vital to build a solid team for them.

I think they are relying heavily to Brunson and KAT tandem that might be explosive once synchronized assuming KAT will be healthy all throughout the season. On the other hand, Wolves will be more lethal on this trade since they already have more key players than can take a shot on both first 5 and second team.

Kath injury prone? No he's fine he's total contributor and star of their team. Its just they need to get rid of him due to avoid paying huge luxury tax. Wolves are in focus with ANT that's why they decide to let go KAT on Wolves.

If you say Randle well there's no question with that he just came out coming from huge injury so provably that Wolves is taking huge gamble taking him. But still the trade went fine for them since they got DiVincenzo and first round draft pick that's why I can say that Wolves won in this trade. I don't know how Knicks could easily make Kat adapt to their system. But what I see here is Wolves became more stronger team.

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Quote from: Harkorede on September 28, 2024, 12:54:27 AM

I think that's the same question I'm asking of KAT into the Knicks team, Randle to me is player that could score in a number of ways and his style should easily match that of ANT, I guess we'll see as soon as the season gets underway.

It seems they don't really need Randle after all, as their offense actually looks better without him. The Knicks have plenty of shooters, and their pace is quicker, so all they need is a strong inside presence, which KAT perfectly provides. I believe they'll improve as they build better chemistry, with KAT potentially taking on a different role that suits the team’s style.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 27, 2024, 10:01:20 PM

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Quote from: Harkorede on September 27, 2024, 09:43:58 PM

A massive trade which popped right out of nowhere have been reportedly completed with the New York Knicks acquiring Karl-Anthony Towns from Timberwolves for Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo and a first round pick (protected) via Detroit. As reported by Shams Charania on X

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1839851169968984211

This is my opinion is quite a disruption deal for both franchise, while I'm really curious to see how it will all play out, I'm currently convinced that it's more of win for the Wolves than for Knicks, I could be wrong, though.

Agreed, KAT is very inconsistent and injury prone while Knicks player that they give up is reliable and versatile. I wonder how Knicks will utilize this trade by giving up a lot of key player that was supposed vital to build a solid team for them.

If you say that KAT is injury prone then why they take that risk to get him? Same with the Wolves as well, Randle is coming off from a injury and we don't know the extend of it. If by unfortunate chance, he got injured again, it could be another season ending and obviously, they will lose the capacity of that big men.

I'm not judging by which player could possibly get injured or not, that's a factor beyond either of these players or any other player as matter of fact, I'm inclined towards what each players bring to the table on the court and what it could mean for their new respective roster, while KAT is probably the best 3 point scoring big man in the league, I'm not sure how that ticks the boxes that the Knicks could be looking out for, meanwhile Julius Randle and Donte DiVincenzo seem to tick the box perfectly with the Timberwolves, while Randle is also an elite scorer, the Wolves would be getting a elite primary defender in DiVincenzo who can also easily get hot from behind the arc, and that's thought process for saying the Wolves are the most benefitting party of this said trade.

Quote from: OgNasty on September 28, 2024, 12:28:37 AM

I’m not sure how Randle will fit in on Minnesota, so to me that is the big question mark with this trade. I’m expecting Ant to have a breakout year statistically though.

I think that's the same question I'm asking of KAT into the Knicks team, Randle to me is player that could score in a number of ways and his style should easily match that of ANT, I guess we'll see as soon as the season gets underway.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 28, 2024, 12:28:37 AM

Karl Anthony Towns is a great player. I’m actually a little surprised they would let him go and not Rudy Gobert, but I think Anthony Edwards wanted to be the number 1 option on the Timberwolves.

Maybe Gobert is next until then find another big man. But for them, I guess they'd take and keep the DPOY than KAT. Looks that the Timberwolves are changing the circles of Edwards for his development. Anderson, KAT and maybe we'd see more trades but they'll keep ANT as their franchise player.

Quote from: OgNasty on September 28, 2024, 12:28:37 AM

I’m not sure how Randle will fit in on Minnesota, so to me that is the big question mark with this trade. I’m expecting Ant to have a breakout year statistically though.

Randle is a choker for crucial games but as everyone is saying maybe it will change and both are winners to their own perspective by doing this trade. It's funny that these teams are announcing the trades first with the media before they announce it to the players being traded. KATs comment was "stunned".

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 28, 2024, 12:28:37 AM

Karl Anthony Towns is a great player. I’m actually a little surprised they would let him go and not Rudy Gobert, but I think Anthony Edwards wanted to be the number 1 option on the Timberwolves. I’m not sure how Randle will fit in on Minnesota, so to me that is the big question mark with this trade. I’m expecting Ant to have a breakout year statistically though.

KAT is definitely a great player, but I feel like he still wants to be the first option on offense for the Wolves. Last season, especially against Dallas when they lost, there were games where KAT wasn’t contributing effectively (he was shooting a lot but with a poor percentage). Honestly, I think that was a key reason for their loss. Now, with Randle (who's recently recovered from injury) in the mix, he can also create his own scoring opportunities, and I just hope it pays off for the team. I still remember how, before facing Dallas, the Wolves' twin towers of KAT and Gobert were giving their opponents a hard time, especially the Nuggets and Jokic.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 27, 2024, 05:22:25 AM

Maybe he can improve after that criticizm that being thrown to him, else, it just give more reason to criticize him and whatever he'll do will always be monitored by those people who loves using his name or his dad's name, he's inside the industry where being public gives other people reason to criticize,

it' more on how he will do his best and who knows with those new upgrades technology that's available for him, he may bring something on the league that will lead him to earn his own supporters and fans.

Only time will tell. He is still young enough to contribute to the league. He needs to gain experience, not just use his father's legendary name. He will need to prove to many people what this player is worth. Only then think about fame and other attributes.

How many times have we seen how arrogance perverts a person and makes him much worse. Bronny should not go down this path, as it is fraught with sad consequences.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 27, 2024, 11:37:18 PM

I actually like the deal for the Knicks. Towns give them some size and also decent 3 point shooting.
Dante is a solid player as well for the Wolfes and tbh I am not a fan of Julius Randle so NY did a good thing moving on from him. He gets injured all the time and his head often seems to be somewhere else. KAT though also has some issues of course, sometimes it feels like he doesn't take things too serious.

But anyway, this deal can benefit both teams, also financially.
I really love those trades that totally come out of nowhere, hopefully we will see some more before the season starts, even though I somehow doubt it.

Karl Anthony Towns is a great player. I’m actually a little surprised they would let him go and not Rudy Gobert, but I think Anthony Edwards wanted to be the number 1 option on the Timberwolves. I’m not sure how Randle will fit in on Minnesota, so to me that is the big question mark with this trade. I’m expecting Ant to have a breakout year statistically though.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 27, 2024, 01:30:06 PM

Truly a lot of what ifs for him. We can't just hate this guy and he's one of the players that's probably has less haters than the known ones.

Him being in the hall of fame has got 10% chance with what I've seen. Come on league, he's the youngest player to win an MVP and with that chance?

He doesn't have the swag even during his prime when he was just steam rolling teams as he won the MVP awards. And he has this personality that most of like. Not sure though if he can still make it to the basketball HOF as he didn't have a good career because of him getting injured.

And as far as I know, him and Lebron were teammates, post DRose prime. But only played just a couple of games with the Cavs. But him during his prime? He is really that explosive, he has one of the best first time and then posterizing big men.

You said that he doesn't have swag but then you've said that he's really an explosive player.

But well then, let's just all agree to that and he's one of the best and he had proved himself worthwhile during his prime and it's not easy to get an MVP while young.

And with the trade of Wolves and Knicks, both have got what they want and are winners on that trade.

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