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February 10, 2023, 08:42:43 PM
Of course the biggest winner in this year's trade is Suns and I would say that Lakers is second.

Suns being called the biggest winner of that trade I guess shouldn't be the right term to be used. Don't just look at the status of how big the name Kevin Durant is but the Nets for me are the winner of that trade by looking at those several young prospects they got that might have good potential in the future. Durant can't even carry the Nets to a good position since he joined the team and you expect him to be a game-changer for the Suns?

The Suns are already good but since Durant shows interest to join the team, they grab it and it happened that they also want to ship Jae Crowder.

I don't even see and considered the Suns as a big threat to most teams. It's like just a usual day of trade in the NBA lol.
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February 10, 2023, 08:16:23 PM

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Nets, Suns Agree On Kevin Durant Trade
The Suns will acquire Kevin Durant from the Nets in exchange for Mikal Bridges, Cameron Johnson, four first-round picks and more draft consideration, tweets Shams Charania of The Athletic.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/02/nets-suns-agree-on-kevin-durant-trade.html

I'm quite sure that the Lakers can't afford that kind of trade because they doesn't have that much luxury anymore to give four 1st-round picks and a swap pick, and then giving away 3 players. But at least, Durant was traded to his preferred team as that's what he said last season.

Well, this time the Suns has a great chance of winning a championship. They mess up their chance before, but with Durant now, I believe they will b a better team. They have a great point guard who can also shoot, so having Durant and Booker will make them a very dangerous team.

Yes, that indeed mean that the Suns won't be the same anymore and the team who used to choke in the playoffs even after having a good run. This time, it will be a lot different because a new Big 4 of the Suns has been formed and the point god will not be having a hard time anymore to use his mastery when it comes to laying the table for the team because they now have a new additional which happens to be a very reliable shooter.
I think that will be the latest trend now in NBA, big a big solid big 4 and then see how far it goes. It's already a big roster upgrade for the Suns, it's just a matter of execution and there are no toxic environment with the team, Jae is already out and his situation with the team might be pulling them off for this season. They are now leading the Pacers end of the first half, Booker and CP3 are playing and it seems they have a different aura now knowing that they will have KD maybe after the all star break.
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February 10, 2023, 06:47:42 PM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?

Referring to Phoenix Suns, we can consider they won their recent trade move since:

a) they got what they wanted (Kevin Durant) without destroying, at least, the core lineup
b) the fact that they successfully get rid of Jae Crowder now which they working for a long already

However, if we looked at the long-term, Brooklyn Nets are a much more winner in that trade since they got those young cores who are currently doing great so far as role players. Aside from that, those 4 1st round picks that the Nets received are truly important and in most cases, might turn into an All-Star or Superstar caliber in their early years of playing.

Maybe the Suns put it all on this season so they gambled as this might be Chris Paul's last run, or taking advantage of Booker's dominance, or expecting Ayton's way of playing might be improved more as another superstar landed on their team.
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February 10, 2023, 06:19:07 PM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?
No doubt that it's them. Yeah, they're now a contender for the championship but that doesn't mean it's a guarantee for them.
Mavs also got a good addition so, this would really means that too many teams now are too good to be considered as a top caliber for this season. Lakers as well.

With this changes they can be considered as good contender  for this seasons title,  though I agree that it isn't a guarantee for them to win a title.

It will still depends from how they will utilize  KD and how they will adjust with the system that they will include KD from the rotation.

So many strong superteams now, it will nice to see great  competition as it will benefits the fans a lot.
Yeah, too many of them have become strong lately and gotten the help that they need. But as said, only if most of them are going to remain healthy until the end of this season.
We have a very good example from the Lakers. AD is strong, there's the only obstacle that he's getting that is being injured which stops him from playing well and contributing to the team. He's one of the big man of the team and when he's not there, we can see the clear difference.
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February 10, 2023, 05:46:48 PM
I would love to see how KD will add his greatness to the Suns franchise,  let's hope for the best on both Suns and KD partnerships.

They'll be tested once they already playing together I'm sure they'll find ways to make
Things workable in chasing  a ring, Booker and CP3 are longing to have a ring hopefully they'll going to adjust.
Well, that's true! I'll also be curious to see how Durant will benefit the Suns.
CP3 + KD + Booker + Ayton (I have no doubt this could be an excellent combination, but let's see if they have chemistry between them.

I'll be rooting for this combination to work out, and I hope even more that CP3 gets his dreamed champion ring
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February 10, 2023, 05:24:54 PM
With 20 points at halftime it’s looking like LeBron is going to break the record tonight. When they were showing all the celebrities in the house for the game I had a feeling I was going to be wrong. After missing his first two shots he’s been on fire. 16 points in a half is still no small feat, but I feel like he’s got a chance to get it done. Hopefully he can find a way to get a win also.

I got no doubts about him that he will really break the record in the game earlier, right after the game commenced, I know that he will do it even if 36 points sounds big and that would mean that he should carry the ball mostly. I just had a small heartache when his eyes were slightly injured by the one of the Thunders elbow when he drove the ball towards the ring. Fortunately, what happened wasn't that big of a deal and the historical game went smoothly.

As soon as LeBron called it the headband game I knew dude wasn't messing around.  The part that will get lost on the whole thing is that lebron did it in a loss to the young okc team to drop into 13th place in the west.  In terms of a game it was a non event.  Now let's talk about the folks that spent $10s of thousands for tickets on Thursday night to watch him break the record only to be there for another game for a team out of contention 😆

If I remember it correctly, the house was already fully booked in less than 24 hours before the game commences and the last price that was established on sale was $100,000 per seat. Imagine that, but people are still neglecting the price because that game was a very rare in a lifetime event and it would at least take a few decades again before it will be broken by somebody. Anyway, the Lakers now got a huge chance that they won't be playing again in the post-season.
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February 10, 2023, 04:59:27 PM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?
No doubt that it's them. Yeah, they're now a contender for the championship but that doesn't mean it's a guarantee for them.
Mavs also got a good addition so, this would really means that too many teams now are too good to be considered as a top caliber for this season. Lakers as well.

I haven't looked yet but they have to have the highest odds.  This literally is the best situation for Durant.  He doesn't need to bring the ball up and is going to have cp setting the table for him lol.  If everyone stays healthy not a single team is going to want to deal with them.
I agree with the latter part. It's always on how healthy everyone is going to survive the season until they reach their goal, which could be the playoffs, semis, and even the finals.
A team that does have healthy stars are likely the one to be landing the goal of every team and that's to be part of those that I have mentioned. KD surely can go everywhere and I just find it odd this time that the Nets was able to trade him quickly unlike the last time when they're also looking to trade him but no team has taken him.

Between Durant and cp3 and book they've been out a decent amount this year.  Suns will probably "manage" minutes while competing for the top 4 slots in the west to assure 1st round home court.  At least kd and cp3 they are on the wrong side of time in terms of nba minutes.  Hope they all male a run in the playoffs they will be fun to watch.
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February 10, 2023, 04:15:33 PM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?

It pretty the Phoenix Suns got their upgrade, but right now Kevin Durant is out and injured when he returns that will be the worst case for the other teams and the teams that are not in the seed for the playoffs because when Chris Paul, Devin Booker, Deandre Ayton, and Kevin Durant are playing this could surely be a death lineup for the other teams, but regarding this team, I think the Los Angeles Lakers had a great upgrade aswell, from ejecting Russell WestBrick they have gotten an incredible upgrade, D'Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley, and Rui Hachimura, imagine this 3 with Lebron James and Anthony Davis this is a scary team for sure, but right now the Los Angeles Lakers have a lot of catching up to do because they were way below the standings, I was surely surprised they have got a chance in taking out WestBrick, and for me Utah Jazz just got a downgrade in getting WestBrick in the team, Sorry WestBrick fans but this is my opinion,


Yes, their is a huge tip on the balance, now the West is pretty much stack up, when KD and Kyrie move to Suns and Dallas respectively. As for the Nets, they got a good picks as well so it's time for them to rebuild anew. Lakers did move a lot of pieces, but the question, is the move too late for them to get at least to a playoff spot? They are in the 13th spot so there are a lot of winnings that they need in order to at least vie for a play-in this season. For now I wouldn't comment on the chemistry of KD and the Suns, too early to see what's going to happen.

Well, right now the Los Angeles Lakers are in a very difficult spot, but all they need to do is keep winning this, but can they keep on winning, right now it is really hard to say if they can make it to the playoffs, but after Lebron James break the all-time record he is starting to get hungry, and this time the championship he really wants to be champion this season, for what is this for but surely it will be a tough season for the Los Angeles Lakers for sure even though they have gotten Beasley, Hachimura and Russell (Not WestBrick),
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February 10, 2023, 04:06:09 PM

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Nets, Suns Agree On Kevin Durant Trade
The Suns will acquire Kevin Durant from the Nets in exchange for Mikal Bridges, Cameron Johnson, four first-round picks and more draft consideration, tweets Shams Charania of The Athletic.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/02/nets-suns-agree-on-kevin-durant-trade.html

I'm quite sure that the Lakers can't afford that kind of trade because they doesn't have that much luxury anymore to give four 1st-round picks and a swap pick, and then giving away 3 players. But at least, Durant was traded to his preferred team as that's what he said last season.

Well, this time the Suns has a great chance of winning a championship. They mess up their chance before, but with Durant now, I believe they will b a better team. They have a great point guard who can also shoot, so having Durant and Booker will make them a very dangerous team.

Yes, that indeed mean that the Suns won't be the same anymore and the team who used to choke in the playoffs even after having a good run. This time, it will be a lot different because a new Big 4 of the Suns has been formed and the point god will not be having a hard time anymore to use his mastery when it comes to laying the table for the team because they now have a new additional which happens to be a very reliable shooter.
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February 10, 2023, 02:58:32 PM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?
No doubt that it's them. Yeah, they're now a contender for the championship but that doesn't mean it's a guarantee for them.
Mavs also got a good addition so, this would really means that too many teams now are too good to be considered as a top caliber for this season. Lakers as well.

With this changes they can be considered as good contender  for this seasons title,  though I agree that it isn't a guarantee for them to win a title.

It will still depends from how they will utilize  KD and how they will adjust with the system that they will include KD from the rotation.

So many strong superteams now, it will nice to see great  competition as it will benefits the fans a lot.
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February 10, 2023, 02:53:00 PM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?
No doubt that it's them. Yeah, they're now a contender for the championship but that doesn't mean it's a guarantee for them.
Mavs also got a good addition so, this would really means that too many teams now are too good to be considered as a top caliber for this season. Lakers as well.

I haven't looked yet but they have to have the highest odds.  This literally is the best situation for Durant.  He doesn't need to bring the ball up and is going to have cp setting the table for him lol.  If everyone stays healthy not a single team is going to want to deal with them.
I agree with the latter part. It's always on how healthy everyone is going to survive the season until they reach their goal, which could be the playoffs, semis, and even the finals.
A team that does have healthy stars are likely the one to be landing the goal of every team and that's to be part of those that I have mentioned. KD surely can go everywhere and I just find it odd this time that the Nets was able to trade him quickly unlike the last time when they're also looking to trade him but no team has taken him.
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February 10, 2023, 02:46:15 PM
CP3, Durant, Booker, and Ayton, yeah that will be scary.
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Kyrie Irving reacts to Kevin Durant trade from Nets to Suns: 'I'm just glad that he got out of there'
Just as I thought it was Kyrie who will push KD to get out. #Brotherhood.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kyrie-irving-reacts-to-kevin-durant-trade-from-nets-to-suns-im-just-glad-that-he-got-out-of-there/


I'm not sure how all of these will work out for the Brooklyn Nets, it looks like a tough situation to be in, but I'm really glad they let go of both KD and Kyrie together there's no point letting one go and keeping the other, and the Brooklyn Nets will be better off in a couple of years with this decision even if not immediately, because now they're having a younger squad with less ego.

As for the Suns, I smell trouble in paradise, but I hope I am actually wrong on this because, it's a different thing to look scary and to actually be scary, I'm sure we had a similar opinion of Brooklyn Nets with James Harden, Kyrie and Durant on the same roster, and I'd say that looked more scarier than this Phoenix Suns, but it might all ball down to the chemistry and relationship they are able to build at end the of the day though, but I guess we can only just imagine until it begins to happen, right?

It was just unfortunate for the Brooklyn Nets because they poured a big amount just to settle Kevin Durant's and Kyrie Irving's contract but in the end, this is what they got. Started with a Big Three and was replaced by another Big Three, now they are a star-less team once again. But that's okay, they aren't that unfortunate because they had a good package in-exchange for KD. It's time for them to rebuild the team again and yes, that will take some time.

For the Suns, I like their move because I just want as well that CP3 will earn his 1st ring before he retires. But after thinking about it, I guess it won't be an easy journey as they are now packed with players with histories. Let's see soon how would the Valley react about their new add-on.
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February 10, 2023, 02:41:21 PM
The NBA went a really crazy trades in the last 48 hrs. The Lakers could've obtained Kyrie if the Nets did not demand too much for the trade. However, the Lakers have somehow upgraded their roster. I'm not sure how this will turn out for them but they've got shooters and rebounder. The most recent one they acquired was Mo Mamba, he's traded for Pat Bev.
On the other side, the Phoenix Suns immediately became the heave favorites to win the championship this year after acquiring KD. What a crazy big 4.

Man I love Pat Bev, he's such a sympathetic guy. Lakers made the right move though, sending a veteran to get a young Center looks like a good deal. Now this trade is understandable as they sent Thomas Bryant for almost nothing.
After this trade deadline I should check latest rosters to weigh positives and negatives as this is one of the busiest deadline days last years.

Yes, Pat Bev will surely be missed wearing the yellow-purple jersey just like Russell Westbrook, but we should move-on as well like how the NBA moved-on after the all the trades happened just recently. So much surprising news every now and then about these trades, the Bucks as well is taking a move by taking Jae Crowder by sending some of their players with few 3rd round picks.
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February 10, 2023, 02:36:16 PM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?
No doubt that it's them. Yeah, they're now a contender for the championship but that doesn't mean it's a guarantee for them.
Mavs also got a good addition so, this would really means that too many teams now are too good to be considered as a top caliber for this season. Lakers as well.

I haven't looked yet but they have to have the highest odds.  This literally is the best situation for Durant.  He doesn't need to bring the ball up and is going to have cp setting the table for him lol.  If everyone stays healthy not a single team is going to want to deal with them.
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February 10, 2023, 02:19:45 PM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?
No doubt that it's them. Yeah, they're now a contender for the championship but that doesn't mean it's a guarantee for them.
Mavs also got a good addition so, this would really means that too many teams now are too good to be considered as a top caliber for this season. Lakers as well.
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February 10, 2023, 02:16:01 PM
I am not sure what the Trail Blazers are trying to achieve. Future second-round picks? Dame is getting older, do it now! I bet that dude is frustrated again as this management is not giving him what he wants.

The Warriors might have seen how weak they are now on the defensive end especially against guards after the game yesterday versus the Blazers. Damian Lillard only made 1 field goal in long-distance shot and yet he made 33 points to win the game. That's not normal. It means he had been successfully attacking the paint in an easy path.
I think Blazers do not try to aim during the Dame era, but afterwards. It's obvious that they have failed to put a team around Dame, and I do not think that they can start doing that right now, it's too late for that or even if not, they won't be able to provided that they haven't already. However, they could get future second round picks turn into one first round pick, and a high one at that as well.

It means that they could have a season with 2 first round picks that are high, and could build a good team after Dame, or when Dame is older at least and that could help them a bit. Look at the past 10 years or so, Portland failed to make a good team and I am sure they will keep on failing at that.
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February 10, 2023, 02:13:42 PM
With all these trades, I am optimistic of what OKC is standing for. They're all having the first and second pick advantages that are about to come.
They'll for sure going to pick all of those great prospects during the draft and this is what they're focusing on.
While some teams are focusing on the current state of the team, there goes this team that are preparing themselves for the future.
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February 10, 2023, 02:13:39 PM
Lakers upgraded their roster, but might not be enough for this season to carry them to the playoffs.

We'll see how well the new guys fit in.  I actually really like the idea of Mo Bamba and LeBron James on the floor together.  I think they will either be a terrifying matchup on the floor or will not work at all.  Similar to how I felt about Russ and Bron, which didn't work out.  DLo could be a big spark as well.  I don't consider him much of a spot up shooter, but I assume he's capable of it.  He's definitely going to be getting the most wide open shots of his career.  My question is when do we get to see them in action?  Saturday vs the Warriors on ABC maybe?

Not really sure if they will be ready, I will assume that they will have to go to some test before playing? D'Lo might benefit from James though, we all know that Lebron loves to dribble penetrate and then pass outside, during their championship stint he has the luxury to it, with KCP, Caruso, Avery Bradley and Kuzma. So hopefully D'Lo can fill that role.

Of course the biggest winner in this year's trade is Suns and I would say that Lakers is second.
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February 10, 2023, 01:24:29 PM
Lakers upgraded their roster, but might not be enough for this season to carry them to the playoffs.

We'll see how well the new guys fit in.  I actually really like the idea of Mo Bamba and LeBron James on the floor together.  I think they will either be a terrifying matchup on the floor or will not work at all.  Similar to how I felt about Russ and Bron, which didn't work out.  DLo could be a big spark as well.  I don't consider him much of a spot up shooter, but I assume he's capable of it.  He's definitely going to be getting the most wide open shots of his career.  My question is when do we get to see them in action?  Saturday vs the Warriors on ABC maybe?
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February 10, 2023, 01:16:02 PM
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And why is it that the Miami Heat aren't making any moves before the deadline? From keeping cap space in order to chase Giannis and then to KD to nothing.
It's not surprising anymore. I don't remember any big trades they have done since JB. There are still rumors about Westbrook contract buyout with the Jazz and one of the teams that's interested to get him is the Heat. He's probably better than Lowry right now so he could find a good place there.

Yeah, there is still chance for Miami to get Russ since they are somewhat interested on him. I think Lowry is way past his prime already, injury prone and no longer the same guard that we have seen him in Raptors uniform.

Bucks too get a good player in Jae Crowder, can play good defense and then score as well.

Lakers upgraded their roster, but might not be enough for this season to carry them to the playoffs.
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