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February 10, 2023, 01:24:29 PM
Lakers upgraded their roster, but might not be enough for this season to carry them to the playoffs.

We'll see how well the new guys fit in.  I actually really like the idea of Mo Bamba and LeBron James on the floor together.  I think they will either be a terrifying matchup on the floor or will not work at all.  Similar to how I felt about Russ and Bron, which didn't work out.  DLo could be a big spark as well.  I don't consider him much of a spot up shooter, but I assume he's capable of it.  He's definitely going to be getting the most wide open shots of his career.  My question is when do we get to see them in action?  Saturday vs the Warriors on ABC maybe?
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February 10, 2023, 01:16:02 PM
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And why is it that the Miami Heat aren't making any moves before the deadline? From keeping cap space in order to chase Giannis and then to KD to nothing.
It's not surprising anymore. I don't remember any big trades they have done since JB. There are still rumors about Westbrook contract buyout with the Jazz and one of the teams that's interested to get him is the Heat. He's probably better than Lowry right now so he could find a good place there.

Yeah, there is still chance for Miami to get Russ since they are somewhat interested on him. I think Lowry is way past his prime already, injury prone and no longer the same guard that we have seen him in Raptors uniform.

Bucks too get a good player in Jae Crowder, can play good defense and then score as well.

Lakers upgraded their roster, but might not be enough for this season to carry them to the playoffs.
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February 10, 2023, 12:19:08 PM
The Lakers rearmed themselves and are making great deals. If they remain healthy, they seemed very serious about becoming a championship contender once again. As per Dallas, Suns, and Brooklyn trades, I wish KD was just sent to Dallas to team up with Luka. Kardashian bad luck is still on Booker and CP3. Cheesy But actually, I really thought that Luka and KD make a great combo. Kyrie's dramatic skills should be in Phoenix.

And why is it that the Miami Heat aren't making any moves before the deadline? From keeping cap space in order to chase Giannis and then to KD to nothing. Sad   

I am also hopeful about the Lakers. But the problem is they need to improve a lot. And they also have to be very consistent if they want to actually find success. The way they are playing right now, I do not know if they honestly will be able to become the championship contender once again.

Do not hear anything special from Miami Heat right now. I heard they were actually interested in Gordon. But I also have not heard anything about that recently as well.

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February 10, 2023, 11:25:11 AM
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And why is it that the Miami Heat aren't making any moves before the deadline? From keeping cap space in order to chase Giannis and then to KD to nothing.
It's not surprising anymore. I don't remember any big trades they have done since JB. There are still rumors about Westbrook contract buyout with the Jazz and one of the teams that's interested to get him is the Heat. He's probably better than Lowry right now so he could find a good place there.
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February 10, 2023, 08:32:40 AM
The Lakers rearmed themselves and are making great deals. If they remain healthy, they seemed very serious about becoming a championship contender once again. As per Dallas, Suns, and Brooklyn trades, I wish KD was just sent to Dallas to team up with Luka. Kardashian bad luck is still on Booker and CP3. Cheesy But actually, I really thought that Luka and KD make a great combo. Kyrie's dramatic skills should be in Phoenix.

And why is it that the Miami Heat aren't making any moves before the deadline? From keeping cap space in order to chase Giannis and then to KD to nothing. Sad   
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February 10, 2023, 08:04:00 AM
The NBA went a really crazy trades in the last 48 hrs. The Lakers could've obtained Kyrie if the Nets did not demand too much for the trade. However, the Lakers have somehow upgraded their roster. I'm not sure how this will turn out for them but they've got shooters and rebounder. The most recent one they acquired was Mo Mamba, he's traded for Pat Bev.
On the other side, the Phoenix Suns immediately became the heave favorites to win the championship this year after acquiring KD. What a crazy big 4.

Man I love Pat Bev, he's such a sympathetic guy. Lakers made the right move though, sending a veteran to get a young Center looks like a good deal. Now this trade is understandable as they sent Thomas Bryant for almost nothing.
After this trade deadline I should check latest rosters to weigh positives and negatives as this is one of the busiest deadline days last years.
I couldn't agree with you more; Pat Bev is a fantastic athlete and a really kind person. Because of this, I understand why you adore him. Getting a young, talented center like Bamba was a smart decision by the Lakers. His potential is high, and I believe he will be a good match for the Lakers.

What happens at the trade deadline is usually a fascinating storyline. As you say, there were a number of major shifts on what was one of the busiest deadline days in recent memory. Given the little tools they had, the Lakers succeeded well. I believe that acquiring Beasley was one of the most undervalued decisions of the deadline and that he will have a major impact for them.
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February 10, 2023, 07:31:56 AM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?

The Suns' starting lineup looks really impressive on paper after this deal. However, I think it's too early to call this team a contender for the championship because there are a lot of strong teams in the Western Conference. I mean, the way to the final series will be difficult for the Suns. Also, we still don't know whether Durant and Booker will be able to share the ball or not.
It's not just the sharing too. It's the holes that were left by Bridges and Johnson. First, Defense. Torrey Craig and Josh Okogie will need to step up their game one more notch. Bridges is known for his steals and sometimes a block because of his long arm span, and it's not just that but he has the speed to defend guards too.
CP3 and Booker will deal with a lot of switches especially when they are up against teams whose guards are their stars. i.e. Ja Morant, SGA, Mitchell, Luka, and more.
Phoenix Suns may look menacing on the offensive end but I want to see how they will perform defensively without Bridges anymore.
As of sharing the ball, there will always be a CP3 to handle that.

Okogie or Damion Lee might be the one replacing the twins, Cam Johnson and Mikhail Bridges departure from the Suns roster. Even Ayton has hard time digesting the event leading up to acquiring Durant, but this is the brutal business of basketball everyone is dispensable.

So let's look at the lineup, Durant, Booker, CP3 and Ayton plus one. I think that is solid already and it can play defense too.

Unless they are really trying to go full defense, then maybe they are going to rotate more.
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February 10, 2023, 07:15:28 AM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?

The Suns' starting lineup looks really impressive on paper after this deal. However, I think it's too early to call this team a contender for the championship because there are a lot of strong teams in the Western Conference. I mean, the way to the final series will be difficult for the Suns. Also, we still don't know whether Durant and Booker will be able to share the ball or not.
It's not just the sharing too. It's the holes that were left by Bridges and Johnson. First, Defense. Torrey Craig and Josh Okogie will need to step up their game one more notch. Bridges is known for his steals and sometimes a block because of his long arm span, and it's not just that but he has the speed to defend guards too.
CP3 and Booker will deal with a lot of switches especially when they are up against teams whose guards are their stars. i.e. Ja Morant, SGA, Mitchell, Luka, and more.
Phoenix Suns may look menacing on the offensive end but I want to see how they will perform defensively without Bridges anymore.
As of sharing the ball, there will always be a CP3 to handle that.
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February 10, 2023, 07:04:54 AM
Durant's trade is very exciting, the Phoenix Suns had a good chance to be champions. I hope Durant recovers soon and becomes a useful player for the team. If the Suns don't win this year, it will be much more difficult to become champions in the coming years.
The draft picks they've given and Durant's advanced age will create negative situations for them

Yes, they are, after this trade, most likely all eyes are on them and wanting to see how it gonna affect the growth of the Phoenix Suns now that KD is one of them. The Phoenix Suns were extremely lucky that they were able to climb to the NBA finals last 2 year ago last year was so tough for them that they even got knocked out by the Mavs and they are really working on it to not experiencing the same nightmare again by acquiring KD. But the question here is, how he will gonna be effective for the Suns? well, if they gonna reach the NBA finals again, they better work really hard and not spoil again their chance to win the NBA championship.

Yes, their is a huge tip on the balance, now the West is pretty much stack up, when KD and Kyrie move to Suns and Dallas respectively. As for the Nets, they got a good picks as well so it's time for them to rebuild anew. Lakers did move a lot of pieces, but the question, is the move too late for them to get at least to a playoff spot? They are in the 13th spot so there are a lot of winnings that they need in order to at least vie for a play-in this season. For now I wouldn't comment on the chemistry of KD and the Suns, too early to see what's going to happen.
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February 10, 2023, 07:02:01 AM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?

The Suns' starting lineup looks really impressive on paper after this deal. However, I think it's too early to call this team a contender for the championship because there are a lot of strong teams in the Western Conference. I mean, the way to the final series will be difficult for the Suns. Also, we still don't know whether Durant and Booker will be able to share the ball or not.
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February 10, 2023, 06:40:42 AM
Durant's trade is very exciting, the Phoenix Suns had a good chance to be champions. I hope Durant recovers soon and becomes a useful player for the team. If the Suns don't win this year, it will be much more difficult to become champions in the coming years.
The draft picks they've given and Durant's advanced age will create negative situations for them

Yes, they are, after this trade, most likely all eyes are on them and wanting to see how it gonna affect the growth of the Phoenix Suns now that KD is one of them. The Phoenix Suns were extremely lucky that they were able to climb to the NBA finals last 2 year ago last year was so tough for them that they even got knocked out by the Mavs and they are really working on it to not experiencing the same nightmare again by acquiring KD. But the question here is, how he will gonna be effective for the Suns? well, if they gonna reach the NBA finals again, they better work really hard and not spoil again their chance to win the NBA championship.
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February 10, 2023, 06:18:14 AM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?

I think Phoenix Suns has the biggest advantage, well, Dallas has benefited on Irving trade but Durant is a different bread that Kyrie, he is more matured and has the size to dominate his opponents. We haven't seen him played yet though, although the Suns have the biggest names already, but it's the chemistry that is the most important.

CP3 might have his first championship this season. Smiley
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February 10, 2023, 05:38:24 AM
Phoenix Suns new contender for championship?

Ayton - Booker - Durant - Paul Shocked

Which team has the biggest advantage after trades?
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February 10, 2023, 04:14:23 AM
Warriors fans will be happy bringng back Gary Payton II back to the team.
On the other hand, John Wall return as well to the Houston Rockets,  Grin
Pat Bev traded to Magic, in exchange of Mo Bamba, I guess we have the answers now. After losing Thomas Bryant, now they got Bamba as a back up center for Anthony Davis. So the Lakers Flip Bryant, Russ and Pat Bev -> Mo Bamba, D’Lo, Beasley, and Vanderbilt.
Yes. And I bet GPII is also happy about the trade. His salary went up and now he is back to his former team and perhaps he will perform better in the Warriors with their chemistry intact.

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The Los Angeles Lakers continued their roster remodel on trade deadline day by sending Thomas Bryant to the Denver Nuggets in a four-team deal with the LA Clippers and Orlando Magic. Denver sends guard Davon Reed and a second-round pick to the Lakers and guard Bones Hyland to the Clippers as part of the deal.
https://www.nba.com/news/lakers-trade-thomas-bryant-to-nuggets
The Nuggets management also did a great job here. Hyland's skills are being wasted sitting on the bench and now this will give a great opportunity for him to show it in the Clippers uniform. While the Clippers just recently traded Reggie Jackson, Hyland will have more minutes. I do appreciate the Nuggets thinking about their players too while they are gaining more.
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February 10, 2023, 02:55:14 AM
Now that Irving and Durant have been traded, Brooklyn is likely out of the championship race.
That much is already known but they may still make it to the playoffs or in the play-in at least. Too bad the young guys won't have a mentor right now but Cam Thomas is enjoying his new role and has given the Nets over 40 points in three consecutive games.

Yup! and for me even though they have Kevin Durant or Kyrie Irving on the team they would likely just be sitting on the play-offs but for me now that the Brooklyn Nets have seen the potential of Cam Thomas they will really going to improve the team revolving around that newcomer, but Cam Thomas and Edmond Sumner, but in getting Spencer Dinwiddie and Mikal Bridges Maybe they can revolutionize the Brooklyn Nets with just this team,

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Meanwhile, I wonder if Jazz will improve now that they have Westbrook. Now that he is in Jazz, he could be potentially their main player as that is how Westbrook is. Maybe can have if not near or maybe half of his performance while he was still in OKC.
I honestly do not know. At least WB will be given more room to play his own style so hopefully that will benefit the Jazz.

WOW! Russell WestBrick is in the Utah Jazz that was surprising at all and I highly doubt if that will be OK for me the team really is struggling to win, and right now they will surely struggle even more, and I really doubt he could change something that is awful right now,

Still digesting the Durant to Phoenix move. I wonder if Durant will buy a house in the valley…

One situation I can’t say I understand is that the Cavaliers are rumored to be considering buying out Kevin Love’s contract. He’s on the last year of his deal so I don’t know what they’d get from doing that and I’m sure Love isn’t going to take a massive loss on his contract to be a free agent a few months sooner. If he is bought out though, I imagine a contender will scoop him up. I think he’d be a good fit for the Warriors.

Yeah, he is nearing the verge of getting rid of him, Kevin Love is probably a 1-dimensional player and probably they want a versatile one now that he is getting out of the Cavaliers, but right now let's just wait for what may happen to him, he is now out of the rotation for the team and this could be a time for the Cleaveland Cavaliers to strike him out,
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February 10, 2023, 02:51:21 AM
Durant's trade is very exciting, the Phoenix Suns had a good chance to be champions. I hope Durant recovers soon and becomes a useful player for the team. If the Suns don't win this year, it will be much more difficult to become champions in the coming years.
The draft picks they've given and Durant's advanced age will create negative situations for them
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February 10, 2023, 01:48:52 AM
I’m reading reports now that the Warriors are or have (depending on the report) traded James Wiseman. I’m surprised by this. I thought he’d give them the athletic center they need, but I guess he didn’t fit into the system. I think if they gave him more minutes he could’ve been a much better player than he is viewed as and probably could have gotten them a better trade package, but it looks like they’ve given up on him. This opens a spot for Kevin Love…
No surprise for me at all.
He isn't fit for the whole Warriors team, and he doesn't fit to how the Warriors are playing right now. Like you said, he doesn't fit to the current system of the Warriors and that's true and that's why he's playing most of the time in the G-league affiliate of the Warriors instead of him playing in the NBA. A good thing that they traded him away.

Warriors fans will be happy bringng back Gary Payton II back to the team.
On the other hand, John Wall return as well to the Houston Rockets,  Grin
Pat Bev traded to Magic, in exchange of Mo Bamba, I guess we have the answers now. After losing Thomas Bryant, now they got Bamba as a back up center for Anthony Davis. So the Lakers Flip Bryant, Russ and Pat Bev -> Mo Bamba, D’Lo, Beasley, and Vanderbilt.
Hell yeah!!!! As a Warriors fan, I'm happy that they got GPII again. I mean the crowd likes him because of his hustle on the court and his great defensive skills. Now that they got him again, at least there will be an upgrade with their defense because they are currently at the 18th spot.

After spitting some sh*t about the Rockets in one of the podcasts and how bad the culture is, John Wall just came back and playing with them as well. I don't know, but after his contract, his career will be over. He will be like Kemba Walker who is performing very well in one season and because of injuries, their career got ruined and ended. It will be the same thing with John Wall. He can't redeem himself when he's in Clippers. He's a liability to the team.

I'm quite surprised that after having a good season, they still traded Thomas Bryant. Mo Bamba is once the starting center of the Magic, but after having Wendell Carter Jr. they put him as a reserved big and then traded. I want Thomas Bryant to be the starting center of the Magic TBH because of how he played in the Lakers. Pat Bev to Magic? I remember he said something regarding him and D'Angelo Russell being with the same team again. Cheesy Just days after he said that, he got traded as well. Funny thing.

Anyways, for the complete list of the trades that happened this season, you can see it here:
https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/lists/2023-nba-trade-deadline-tracker-kevin-durant-kyrie-irving/
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February 09, 2023, 10:09:16 PM
I’m reading reports now that the Warriors are or have (depending on the report) traded James Wiseman. I’m surprised by this. I thought he’d give them the athletic center they need, but I guess he didn’t fit into the system. I think if they gave him more minutes he could’ve been a much better player than he is viewed as and probably could have gotten them a better trade package, but it looks like they’ve given up on him. This opens a spot for Kevin Love…
What a crazy day. And this thread is going crazy too.  Grin My brain is all over the place now trying to remember all the trades that are happening.
@OgNasty, Wiseman was given minutes, in G-League. Cheesy
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Warriors receive: Gary Payton II (via Blazers)
Pistons receive: James Wiseman (via Warriors)
Trail Blazers receive: Kevin Knox (via Pistons), five future second-round picks (via Hawks)
Hawks receive: Saddiq Bey (via Pistons)
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-grades-warriors-earn-high-mark-for-getting-gary-payton-ii-back-but-take-hit-for-james-wiseman/
I am not sure what the Trail Blazers are trying to achieve. Future second-round picks? Dame is getting older, do it now! I bet that dude is frustrated again as this management is not giving him what he wants.

The Warriors might have seen how weak they are now on the defensive end especially against guards after the game yesterday versus the Blazers. Damian Lillard only made 1 field goal in long-distance shot and yet he made 33 points to win the game. That's not normal. It means he had been successfully attacking the paint in an easy path.

About Kevin Love.
https://news.yahoo.com/cavaliers-not-expecting-buyout-veteran-225004365.html
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Kevin Love wasn't moved at the NBA's trade deadline, and the Cavaliers don't expect him to leave anytime soon.
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February 09, 2023, 09:07:58 PM
Warriors fans will be happy bringng back Gary Payton II back to the team.
On the other hand, John Wall return as well to the Houston Rockets,  Grin
Pat Bev traded to Magic, in exchange of Mo Bamba, I guess we have the answers now. After losing Thomas Bryant, now they got Bamba as a back up center for Anthony Davis. So the Lakers Flip Bryant, Russ and Pat Bev -> Mo Bamba, D’Lo, Beasley, and Vanderbilt.
And John Wall taking shit about the Houston Rockets on his last stint with them, unfortunately, he will be coming back so no love lost for him and the fans of the Rockets.

I guess the Lakers did great on the trading deadline, getting Mo Bamba is great as a back up center and then D'Lo as well to play as guard. So for me it's a win win for LA and this could be the final push for them for the playoff this year. We have witnessed Lebron breaking the record, it's time for them to at least make a run after the all star break.

The name Mamba is all related to Bryant, LOL.. they are keeping the vibes. Lebron is still playing with the Mamba, and this guy has a decent record though, so for sure as long as he is healthy, he'll be able to provide enough help for the Lakers. Westbrook is gone, we knew he will be traded due to his inconsistency, but we cannot deny he'll have a bigger chance of winning the 6th man of the year.
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February 09, 2023, 09:04:48 PM
Warriors fans will be happy bringng back Gary Payton II back to the team.
On the other hand, John Wall return as well to the Houston Rockets,  Grin
Pat Bev traded to Magic, in exchange of Mo Bamba, I guess we have the answers now. After losing Thomas Bryant, now they got Bamba as a back up center for Anthony Davis. So the Lakers Flip Bryant, Russ and Pat Bev -> Mo Bamba, D’Lo, Beasley, and Vanderbilt.
And John Wall taking shit about the Houston Rockets on his last stint with them, unfortunately, he will be coming back so no love lost for him and the fans of the Rockets.

I guess the Lakers did great on the trading deadline, getting Mo Bamba is great as a back up center and then D'Lo as well to play as guard. So for me it's a win win for LA and this could be the final push for them for the playoff this year. We have witnessed Lebron breaking the record, it's time for them to at least make a run after the all star break.
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