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I’ve officially chosen the Minnesota Timberwolves as my pick to win the 2024-2025 NBA season. I think they may have peaked last year but Ant is certain to be better. With the right coaching I think they can get it done. As long as Giannis and Embiid get injured at some point and the Suns don’t figure out how to play together…

What a bold statement mate Grin

. But I won't argue with you, I mean we have seen ANT Man doing his thing last season and it looks like he has not yet reach his peak and prime yet. And he had a good showing in the Olympics, which means he has some experience from the GOAT like Durant, James and Curry. So he is building momentum already and it can trickle down to the current season.

And so far this is the odds listed in Stake,

So others could bet as early as they can as an outright, still very attractive odds.

Crazy that the 76ers are 3rd in the entire NBA. I'm still not buying it. Relying on injury prone guys over the age of 30 never works. Yeah maxey is nice, real nice but this team is gonna go with embiid and Paul george. Just can't see the stars aligning and those 2 play 82 games and well into the playoffs without some lingering injury. I'd say the Bucks shoukd be higher too. Giannis is a menace. I'd stick Minnesota up too from where they are at. Think this is the year ANT puts it all together.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 13, 2024, 04:33:09 AM

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Seriously even with the addition of Brony James in Lakers Roster you’re still not a believer?! Roll Eyes

Kidding aside, I think Lakers roster still has a potential assuming that 1 or 2 of their young talent will develop and step up this season. AR15 once just a substitute player until he show a good performance on a single season.

Lakers still has some solid young talent. They just need to stop circling their play to old talent like Lebron and Davis to maximize all their young roster potential.

Getting Bronny is like getting a free superstar with a contract of $2M per year. Cheesy

Jokes aside, I don't see them competing in this playoffs though for multiple reasons. Their current roster is for me an average one compared to other teams in the West. Another one is their coach is just a new one and yes we've seen coaches that became successful in their first year and one of them is Ime Udoka, but what are the chances that JJ Redick will be included on the list? I don't think so. Reaves might be a good player alongside Russell, but both of them sucks in terms of defense. They're offensive minded players, and that's another reason why I don't see them competing in the playoffs. Their defense is, well at the bottom (16th), and if you want to be a playoff contender, you must be better at defense.

Lakers might have young and talented players, but by the time they will be developed (if they will be), LeBron retired already.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 13, 2024, 04:33:09 AM

It's funny (or shocking) that odds makers still have the Lakers as the 9th pick to win the chip, ahead of teams like Phoenix for example. Sure, Phoenix will never win it this season as well but higher odds than the Lakers? Come on man, that's impossible. Guess the odds makers are die hard Lebron fans or something. Grin

Also the Mavs being only 7th after reaching the conference finals last season is wild for me as well!

Honestly, these odds on the Lakers don't surprise me. Obviously, the Lakers won't win a title in the upcoming season, but it's worth noting that they could surprise even if they make the playoffs via a play-in tournament. For example, in the 22-23 season, they somehow reached the Western Conference Finals, and then no one expected such a deep run from them in the playoffs.
As for the Suns, their roster looks too strong on paper. But in reality, they have had mediocre results in the last two playoffs.

Seriously even with the addition of Brony James in Lakers Roster you’re still not a believer?! Roll Eyes

Kidding aside, I think Lakers roster still has a potential assuming that 1 or 2 of their young talent will develop and step up this season. AR15 once just a substitute player until he show a good performance on a single season.

Lakers still has some solid young talent. They just need to stop circling their play to old talent like Lebron and Davis to maximize all their young roster potential.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on September 13, 2024, 06:55:02 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 13, 2024, 04:33:09 AM

It's funny (or shocking) that odds makers still have the Lakers as the 9th pick to win the chip, ahead of teams like Phoenix for example. Sure, Phoenix will never win it this season as well but higher odds than the Lakers? Come on man, that's impossible. Guess the odds makers are die hard Lebron fans or something. Grin

Also the Mavs being only 7th after reaching the conference finals last season is wild for me as well!

Honestly, these odds on the Lakers don't surprise me. Obviously, the Lakers won't win a title in the upcoming season, but it's worth noting that they could surprise even if they make the playoffs via a play-in tournament. For example, in the 22-23 season, they somehow reached the Western Conference Finals, and then no one expected such a deep run from them in the playoffs.
As for the Suns, their roster looks too strong on paper. But in reality, they have had mediocre results in the last two playoffs.

That is the truth about the Phoenix Suns but still, I won't underestimate the power of Durant and Booker. These guys had been playing isolation games and I think what they need is someone that would make them work as a team and not as individuals. I know it's not Bradley Beal but I am hoping he could become a point guard for them and not a shooting guard too.
Strong on paper, that's right, I think their recipe for winning a championship will depend on their health and chemistry.

As for the Lakers, I may agree with you. They might be the wild card in the upcoming season and I won't also underestimate that team even with Lebron aging and they still have Davis.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 13, 2024, 04:33:09 AM

It's funny (or shocking) that odds makers still have the Lakers as the 9th pick to win the chip, ahead of teams like Phoenix for example. Sure, Phoenix will never win it this season as well but higher odds than the Lakers? Come on man, that's impossible. Guess the odds makers are die hard Lebron fans or something. Grin

Also the Mavs being only 7th after reaching the conference finals last season is wild for me as well!

Honestly, these odds on the Lakers don't surprise me. Obviously, the Lakers won't win a title in the upcoming season, but it's worth noting that they could surprise even if they make the playoffs via a play-in tournament. For example, in the 22-23 season, they somehow reached the Western Conference Finals, and then no one expected such a deep run from them in the playoffs.
As for the Suns, their roster looks too strong on paper. But in reality, they have had mediocre results in the last two playoffs.

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Westbrook is a very high flying athlete, he is fast and he can jump high and he has a keen eye for rebounding as well. Well at least he used to be like that, I do not know how his body is anymore to be fair, but if he is still good enough, then I think he can command a second unit easily, he is still better than most bench players in the league, so he could just rebound and help with fast breaks and keep the second unit period under control.

But I highly doubt that he is a starting caliber player anymore, it doesn't matter which team he is on, he is not good enough to start, you should either have a better one, or a young kid with potential, nobody is as bad as westbrook as first option. So, he should probably be leading the bench to getting some points and getting scores. If he finishes the season at plus on +/- then he should be a good signing, it is not that easy but it can be done, he is good enough to make that happen if he agrees on coming off the bench again.

Westbrook used to be a very good basketball player, everyone admits that. So, is its performance in recent years good enough? You have to be honest about this. For a rotation player in the squad, he is still playing well, it would not be right to say that he has failed. But if he is among the top 5 players in a team, we can say that that team is not very good. He is now at an age where his experience should be used when the team needs support. He's not as good athletically as LeBron, I don't think he'll continue playing in a few years

He will not be in Hall of Fame discussion if he didn't a remarkable career. Everyone would provably agree that he is so great before despite of many say that he is stat padding. Although its hard to do those performance if you are not really good player. That's why NBA credit those performance he provide.

Right now he's performance is declining and normal for aging player but those remarks he left before as Mr. Triple Double will remain in history of NBA.

For sure his role in Nuggets will be a support for their stars. So despite of declining performance still Westbrook could able to provide good contribution to help their team to get a win or maybe help on advising young players to perform more better in their team.

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Quote from: xzone on September 13, 2024, 06:21:44 AM

Westbrook used to be a very good basketball player, everyone admits that.

Some players are good in one team but bad in another. Westbrook was a triple-double machine back in OKC but that was before he had the freedom to do what he wanted, not to mention his stat padding. You can really see a player’s skill if they can still excel regardless of the team they play for, like LeBron James and Kawhi Leonard. Since Westbrook moved teams, his production has gradually decreased, which has also lowered his value, leading to a smaller contract with the Clippers last season.

I think Westbrook is just looking for a championship because that’s the only thing missing in his career. He’s already a Hall of Famer, but it would be better if he also wins a championship. So, I’d say he’s in the right team now because the Nuggets are championship contenders.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 12, 2024, 03:29:50 PM

Westbrook is a very high flying athlete, he is fast and he can jump high and he has a keen eye for rebounding as well. Well at least he used to be like that, I do not know how his body is anymore to be fair, but if he is still good enough, then I think he can command a second unit easily, he is still better than most bench players in the league, so he could just rebound and help with fast breaks and keep the second unit period under control.

But I highly doubt that he is a starting caliber player anymore, it doesn't matter which team he is on, he is not good enough to start, you should either have a better one, or a young kid with potential, nobody is as bad as westbrook as first option. So, he should probably be leading the bench to getting some points and getting scores. If he finishes the season at plus on +/- then he should be a good signing, it is not that easy but it can be done, he is good enough to make that happen if he agrees on coming off the bench again.

Westbrook used to be a very good basketball player, everyone admits that. So, is its performance in recent years good enough? You have to be honest about this. For a rotation player in the squad, he is still playing well, it would not be right to say that he has failed. But if he is among the top 5 players in a team, we can say that that team is not very good. He is now at an age where his experience should be used when the team needs support. He's not as good athletically as LeBron, I don't think he'll continue playing in a few years

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Quote from: TravelMug on September 13, 2024, 04:43:10 AM

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 13, 2024, 03:45:43 AM

And so far this is the odds listed in Stake,

So others could bet as early as they can as an outright, still very attractive odds.

It's funny (or shocking) that odds makers still have the Lakers as the 9th pick to win the chip, ahead of teams like Phoenix for example. Sure, Phoenix will never win it this season as well but higher odds than the Lakers? Come on man, that's impossible. Guess the odds makers are die hard Lebron fans or something. Grin

Also the Mavs being only 7th after reaching the conference finals last season is wild for me as well!

That's why it's good to really bet on it as early. I don't know what the odds are for the Mavs to reach the finals last year, but for sure it is huge and if there are gamblers who take that risk at the early stage and waited for the whole season, he could really win big here.

Not surprised by the Boston Celtics, they are the defending champions.

And also the question on whether we have gamblers here who bet on the outright? Or we should get in early and have the mental fortitude to wait for the results.

I agree to that, if you have decent spare you can bet for your favorite team to win the title, let your money be save inside the sports house and treat it as you already lose it, hahaha, we never know what luck bring us and like what you mentioned not sure how decent the odds for Mavs to win the conference title and those who bet for them in the early days manage to win decent.

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Westbrook was never a good three point shooter, and while he had a marvellous career at OKC, it was done as soon as he left because he was getting stat padding and friendly leadership benefits there, the moment he left it meant that nobody cared about what they can do for westbrook and only cared about what westbrook could do for them. He got famous for a moment about being mad at "westbrick" memes, and the reality is that if he doesn't want to be memed, then he should stop shooting so awful from three point line.

I would say that any shots outside the paint are not Westbrook's strong suit, not just shots from the three-point line. Overall, in my opinion, Westbrook's best strength has always been his power layups, and when he was in his prime, not every center could stop him at that point.

And that is the point though, he is no longer in his prime and so now he is being challenge when he goes to the rim. Centers are now not afraid of him because they know that Westbrook is not the same player anymore. And then he really didn't evolved as a outside shooting threat throughout in his career and now it's evident as he losses his superior athleticism, and now being branded as Westbrick. For sure it has come to his attention and yet he is not doing anything about it and wanted to remain the player that he is. As compare to Lebron or even Steph Curry. They continue to set boundaries and still polarizing today because they didn't rest and continue to grow as player.

His past reputation as lethal finisher is gone since players now know what he is capable to do. That's why if he want to perform better he need to adjust the changes of the game. As said he is getting old and prime Westbrook is not there anymore so he need to work on his perimeter shoot since he really need it to avoid being called as Westbrick again. Mental challenges also caught him up so he need to get over with it and focus on his game. Let see what Nuggets could do but I also don't expect much from him especially that Nuggets have two reliable players and with that for sure he cannot get more possessions just like what he use to get on other team.

But for sure he's still capable to bring good contribution to Nuggets and he will be good bench energizer if he could just adapt his role in his new team.

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Quote from: bitgolden on September 11, 2024, 02:23:31 PM

Westbrook was never a good three point shooter, and while he had a marvellous career at OKC, it was done as soon as he left because he was getting stat padding and friendly leadership benefits there, the moment he left it meant that nobody cared about what they can do for westbrook and only cared about what westbrook could do for them. He got famous for a moment about being mad at "westbrick" memes, and the reality is that if he doesn't want to be memed, then he should stop shooting so awful from three point line.

I would say that any shots outside the paint are not Westbrook's strong suit, not just shots from the three-point line. Overall, in my opinion, Westbrook's best strength has always been his power layups, and when he was in his prime, not every center could stop him at that point.

And that is the point though, he is no longer in his prime and so now he is being challenge when he goes to the rim. Centers are now not afraid of him because they know that Westbrook is not the same player anymore. And then he really didn't evolved as a outside shooting threat throughout in his career and now it's evident as he losses his superior athleticism, and now being branded as Westbrick. For sure it has come to his attention and yet he is not doing anything about it and wanted to remain the player that he is. As compare to Lebron or even Steph Curry. They continue to set boundaries and still polarizing today because they didn't rest and continue to grow as player.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 13, 2024, 04:33:09 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on September 13, 2024, 03:45:43 AM

And so far this is the odds listed in Stake,

So others could bet as early as they can as an outright, still very attractive odds.

It's funny (or shocking) that odds makers still have the Lakers as the 9th pick to win the chip, ahead of teams like Phoenix for example. Sure, Phoenix will never win it this season as well but higher odds than the Lakers? Come on man, that's impossible. Guess the odds makers are die hard Lebron fans or something. Grin

Also the Mavs being only 7th after reaching the conference finals last season is wild for me as well!

That's why it's good to really bet on it as early. I don't know what the odds are for the Mavs to reach the finals last year, but for sure it is huge and if there are gamblers who take that risk at the early stage and waited for the whole season, he could really win big here.

Not surprised by the Boston Celtics, they are the defending champions.

And also the question on whether we have gamblers here who bet on the outright? Or we should get in early and have the mental fortitude to wait for the results.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 13, 2024, 03:45:43 AM

And so far this is the odds listed in Stake,

So others could bet as early as they can as an outright, still very attractive odds.

It's funny (or shocking) that odds makers still have the Lakers as the 9th pick to win the chip, ahead of teams like Phoenix for example. Sure, Phoenix will never win it this season as well but higher odds than the Lakers? Come on man, that's impossible. Guess the odds makers are die hard Lebron fans or something. Grin

Also the Mavs being only 7th after reaching the conference finals last season is wild for me as well!

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 11, 2024, 02:30:04 PM

I’ve officially chosen the Minnesota Timberwolves as my pick to win the 2024-2025 NBA season. I think they may have peaked last year but Ant is certain to be better. With the right coaching I think they can get it done. As long as Giannis and Embiid get injured at some point and the Suns don’t figure out how to play together…

What a bold statement mate Grin

. But I won't argue with you, I mean we have seen ANT Man doing his thing last season and it looks like he has not yet reach his peak and prime yet. And he had a good showing in the Olympics, which means he has some experience from the GOAT like Durant, James and Curry. So he is building momentum already and it can trickle down to the current season.

And so far this is the odds listed in Stake,

So others could bet as early as they can as an outright, still very attractive odds.

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If they had kept most of these players, they're for sure going to reach that far but.....

I don’t understand why they did that, normally when a team wins a championship, they don’t replace their players because the chemistry is already there. Just like what happened with the Warriors, after winning the championship, they traded Poole, and now they keep losing. I’m just asking because I don’t really get it, but maybe they know better if it was the right thing to do.

Well, the answer mostly is that it's all about business. They've won a chip altogether and that's enough for them and they need to make way for some "stronger" roster in their opinion.

Only the superstar for each them and the representative of their franchise really are kept.

This has also happened to some Denver Nuggets players that have contributed to their very first championship.

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Here’s a wild statistic for you. Onlyfans girls are out earning NBA players (at least when it comes to their main salary). That’s hard to believe. Although most of the big name NBA players make more money from their endorsements than their salaries, I still wouldn’t have thought that OnlyFans girls are bringing home bigger paychecks.

Haha, I've seen this.

That means that there are more simps than the typical sports person. Well, no offense but going on with NSFW contents is seen to be a profitable business.

And no wonder why the entire OF verse have earned with its content creators more than the NBA's high paychecks last year.

I'm not familiar with that ONLYFANS ladies either, so I did a quick search on YouTube, and it seems like it’s related to adult content. Am I right? I’m surprised by how much they can make, though. It’s confusing, but I don’t really plan to dig deeper into it since it’s not really my thing.

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Someone is even willing to buy a bathe water from these girls or feet pics, kinda cringe but real.

I also read before that an NBA player wanted to drink the bath water of an actress. Guess who it is?

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Quote from: boyptc on September 12, 2024, 05:11:06 AM

If they had kept most of these players, they're for sure going to reach that far but.....

I don’t understand why they did that, normally when a team wins a championship, they don’t replace their players because the chemistry is already there. Just like what happened with the Warriors, after winning the championship, they traded Poole, and now they keep losing. I’m just asking because I don’t really get it, but maybe they know better if it was the right thing to do.

Quote from: danherbias07 on September 12, 2024, 06:50:52 PM

I guess bad luck also got to him just like the other named players.

I wouldn’t call it bad luck though, let’s use words not too negative instead—they’re just not lucky. But the players mentioned are exceptional, so they’ll still be remembered despite not winning a championship. There are even players who didn’t play much but still became champions, like Giannis’ brother, right? Didn’t he win a championship too?

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Here’s a wild statistic for you. Onlyfans girls are out earning NBA players (at least when it comes to their main salary). That’s hard to believe. Although most of the big name NBA players make more money from their endorsements than their salaries, I still wouldn’t have thought that OnlyFans girls are bringing home bigger paychecks.

I don't think we should be surprised though, I mean we all know that strippers take home a lot of money every day from tips and other 'extra service' from their customers. And the sex industry together with gambling is the most lucrative businesses in the world.

And so just for selling your videos in only fans, this girls are raking big money, and we all know what's their selling point is.

So there are more fans for this OnlyFans content creator that's why they profited big than NBA.

In their defense I guess you could say that the OnlyFans models are causing more people to see bricks up than the NBA players… I digress… I’m also sure the NBA and owners are taking a much larger cut of the overall revenue than OnlyFans as a company. I think NBA players get like 45% of revenue while OF models get around 85%, but someone can google me and correct those numbers. If I’m accurate, the NBA is still a bigger company with a larger revenue source.

Off topic, but IMO anyone giving money to these OF ladies is a moron. Porn hub is free. People should have more important things to spend their money on that subscribing to a channel, paying some good looking girl to touch themselves or someone else, and jacking off.

Back on topic, no matter what both are generating an obscene amount of money but OF is growing in popularity while the NBA is declining. Basketball needs something to make it more relevant before it fades away. A new electric star like the WNBA found with Caitlin Clark.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 12, 2024, 08:08:14 AM

That's a fact. Westbrook could have been one of the most unstoppable PG if he worked on his mid-range and long range shots. I don't know why, but he doesn't seem to have improved it a bit. The game is evolving so as the new players. They are as explosive as Westbrook and more importantly can score anywhere. I even came to realize that a basketball player must-have is always going to be the ability to score everywhere. Without mid-range and 3 point shooting ability, you'll not getting anywhere. Westbrook got traded 5 times after he won MVP. I mean I'm starting to doubt if he's really valuable when he has been traded around and been into 4-5 teams after OKC.

Let's not forget Dwyane Wade. He almost has the same skills as Russell Westbrook. Attack the paint and some midrange shooting. WB was actually one of the most unstoppable PGs in his prime. He just doesn't have the team recipe to bring a championship. What happened to him is what happened to other great players.
Chris Paul, Gary Payton, Sam Cassell, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, and a lot more. I would not say it could've been better if he took classes on long-range shooting, it's just there are better teams out there. Basketball ain't a one-man team.
Still, I am putting this guy in my Hall of Fame players because of his damn stats that will be difficult to erase. High amount of triple-doubles, great battles in championships, and his perseverance as a basketball player.

I guess bad luck also got to him just like the other named players.

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