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September 17, 2024, 07:20:03 AM
I do not think that the Miami Heat will be pushing that trade although it's only a rumor and a possible trade scenario.

Yeah, I see a lot of speculation in the media about Butler. Apparently, teams like the Rockets, Spurs, Nuggets, Lakers, and Warriors could be the top contenders for Butler if the Heat want to trade him.
Honestly, I think if the Heat decide to trade him, it might be the beginning of a rebuilding phase on their team that will take a few seasons.
Mostly people would like to see him go either with Lakers or Warriors but again, this is all rumors and we shouldn't be heavily invested on the idea of it.
The media keeps on spreading these rumors that might tend to become a false rumor in the end. Or if it's not the media but the loyal fans and supporters of those teams that are linking to this rumor.
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September 17, 2024, 05:55:12 AM
Butler definitely looks like he would be great for Warriors but that doesn't mean that we are looking at something that will get a great deal but at the same time this is not a real trade and not even a rumour but just a thought experiment and nothing more.
That goes for the clout and fans that likes to create rumors are like that.

But if it goes and becomes a real thing, trades like this is going to be a surprising one. What I think is the better rumor and close to reality is about Giannis wanting to move to Dallas.

It's more likely as we've heard it last season IIRC that he wants out of the Milwaukee Bucks.

No way the Bucks move giannis there is no reason too.  No reason to take on Dame without having giannis on the team.  He is locked in for 3 more years amd then a player option for another one.  And I'm not entirely sure he would ever want to leave.  A lot of people don't know but the Bucks organization had a huge part in getting his whole family to the united states.  There's things outside of basketball which makes people want to stay working for a certain team.

It's just born out of frustrations for Giannis if he wanted to get out of the Bucks. I think it's fair though, last year, they are expecting to have a good team with Dame as the new teammate. Nevertheless, they have a lot of issues, fired their head coach, have a interim that did good for them but eventually replace by Doc Rivers who have been criticized as well.

For Butler, same, maybe he wanted reset of his career and a good destination could be Warriors for him to team up with Steph Curry. But if the Heat will counter offer, not in terms of money, but in terms of players that will surround him, maybe he will stay at least for 2-3 season.
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September 17, 2024, 05:47:22 AM
I do not think that the Miami Heat will be pushing that trade although it's only a rumor and a possible trade scenario.

Yeah, I see a lot of speculation in the media about Butler. Apparently, teams like the Rockets, Spurs, Nuggets, Lakers, and Warriors could be the top contenders for Butler if the Heat want to trade him.
Honestly, I think if the Heat decide to trade him, it might be the beginning of a rebuilding phase on their team that will take a few seasons.

I’ve seen the joke reports that Butler is going to the Warriors but I don’t believe it. I think he is going to stay put in Miami. The season will be starting before too much longer. I’m curious to see how Ant and Wemby have gotten better during the offseason

Yeah most of these reports are always pure speculation. In the offseason channels and outlets always jump on stories and report a lot on them just because there is not much else going on. And since JB is a big name in a big market obviously he is worth reporting on. Miami doesn't need to hurry but they als don't want to give Jimmy the extension he is seeking. So if they want to get something for him before his contract expires it would be as soon as possible. Sure there are still 2 seasons left on his current contract but the last year is a player option. I doubt though that he would opt out of a 52 million last year.
On the other hand, if another team would give him what he wants there is still the possibility this might happen.

It's just a question on whether if there is a smoke, there is fire. So obviously, this could be half meant news, I mean there could be insider that leaking this kind of information from Butler side that he might not be happy anymore from the Miami Heat as they have been around for many years, reach the championships but never won.

So maybe Butler is thinking of going to another team, a championship team that can give him a ring. However, going to the Warriors will not be a good option as the Warriors will also have to trade a lot of their players just to get them. They already lost Klay already, and so they will have to experiment this season if they can still go and reach at least the playoff for this year before thinking of trading their big players.
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September 17, 2024, 04:22:12 AM
I do not think that the Miami Heat will be pushing that trade although it's only a rumor and a possible trade scenario.

Yeah, I see a lot of speculation in the media about Butler. Apparently, teams like the Rockets, Spurs, Nuggets, Lakers, and Warriors could be the top contenders for Butler if the Heat want to trade him.
Honestly, I think if the Heat decide to trade him, it might be the beginning of a rebuilding phase on their team that will take a few seasons.

I’ve seen the joke reports that Butler is going to the Warriors but I don’t believe it. I think he is going to stay put in Miami. The season will be starting before too much longer. I’m curious to see how Ant and Wemby have gotten better during the offseason
True, it doesn't make sense for Butler to leave the Heat and then goes to the Warriors? I think he is fine with the Heat as their alpha, they just have to surround himself with another set of new role players as some of them have really left the team for higher pay. But for sure they will have to thank the management for that, for their coach to give him the time and exposure and believed on themselves to be a great players. If Butler will go on other teams, it should be that he will be the leader, just like when he went to the Sixers before, with Joel as the leader that time and with Ben Simmons, there are friction and it was not a fruitful stay with the Sixers.
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September 17, 2024, 02:07:56 AM


Actually yesterday I saw a video about possible trade scenarios for Butler to the Golden state warriors. It would be beneficial for both teams I guess but I think the Warriors would lose several contributors if they want to pursue Jimmy. Obviously Miami likes young talent and who else of the Warriors would be Kuminga or maybe Podziemski. I think Kuminga has more upside and he would need to be part of a possible package.
Well, for now not much will happen anyway I guess.


 I agree to that, kuminga is a valuable asset and if ever Warriors will push for this possible trade then letting Kuminga might be the risk that they take to get Jimmy, If the managements is aiming for quick outcome then maybe Butler might be a good option for them, let see if there's progress about this or maybe just another fan or poster who loves to catch out attentions that may be forgotten along the  way.

The GSW should never settle for this trade. I mean, Kuminga and Podziemski is a much better pieces for the team than Jimmy Butler. Plus, they are young, Jimmy has like maybe a couple or more years and he's done. Jimmy would mist likely going to retire before the GSW gets another momentum to take a shot for another championship.
The GSW should build a team around these young talents and not send them away.
I don't honestly think they'll do this trade.

They are good fit on the system already and changing it might put them on big risk to lose especially that Butler is a type of player that want to be the main man on the team, So maybe they encounter a problem with this if they make that trade to happen. They don't need a star to join their team and what they need is good chemistry together with their existing teammates. Also what I think their current roster is strong already compare last season. So everything is already fine on their end and they should not entertain this kind of trade.

What GSW need is to develop these guys and maybe they can use them for long term especially if their attitude won't change and they continue to develop or enhance their talents.

Yeah I agree to that, what they need is to keep developing the full potentials of those young stars now that Klay is out they need to maximize the use of each other, developing chemistries and keeping that bond and trust with each other, like you said they are more competitive now compared from what they've got last season, they just need to keep grinding in terms of establishing their system, that same patterns that brought them to many championship rings.
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September 17, 2024, 01:16:07 AM
I do not think that the Miami Heat will be pushing that trade although it's only a rumor and a possible trade scenario.

Yeah, I see a lot of speculation in the media about Butler. Apparently, teams like the Rockets, Spurs, Nuggets, Lakers, and Warriors could be the top contenders for Butler if the Heat want to trade him.
Honestly, I think if the Heat decide to trade him, it might be the beginning of a rebuilding phase on their team that will take a few seasons.

I’ve seen the joke reports that Butler is going to the Warriors but I don’t believe it. I think he is going to stay put in Miami. The season will be starting before too much longer. I’m curious to see how Ant and Wemby have gotten better during the offseason

Yeah most of these reports are always pure speculation. In the offseason channels and outlets always jump on stories and report a lot on them just because there is not much else going on. And since JB is a big name in a big market obviously he is worth reporting on. Miami doesn't need to hurry but they als don't want to give Jimmy the extension he is seeking. So if they want to get something for him before his contract expires it would be as soon as possible. Sure there are still 2 seasons left on his current contract but the last year is a player option. I doubt though that he would opt out of a 52 million last year.
On the other hand, if another team would give him what he wants there is still the possibility this might happen.


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September 17, 2024, 12:59:12 AM
I do not think that the Miami Heat will be pushing that trade although it's only a rumor and a possible trade scenario.

Yeah, I see a lot of speculation in the media about Butler. Apparently, teams like the Rockets, Spurs, Nuggets, Lakers, and Warriors could be the top contenders for Butler if the Heat want to trade him.
Honestly, I think if the Heat decide to trade him, it might be the beginning of a rebuilding phase on their team that will take a few seasons.

I’ve seen the joke reports that Butler is going to the Warriors but I don’t believe it. I think he is going to stay put in Miami. The season will be starting before too much longer. I’m curious to see how Ant and Wemby have gotten better during the offseason
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September 16, 2024, 07:57:48 PM
I do not think that the Miami Heat will be pushing that trade although it's only a rumor and a possible trade scenario.

Yeah, I see a lot of speculation in the media about Butler. Apparently, teams like the Rockets, Spurs, Nuggets, Lakers, and Warriors could be the top contenders for Butler if the Heat want to trade him.
Honestly, I think if the Heat decide to trade him, it might be the beginning of a rebuilding phase on their team that will take a few seasons.
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September 16, 2024, 06:27:14 PM
Actually yesterday I saw a video about possible trade scenarios for Butler to the Golden state warriors.

I don’t think that’s a good idea, IMO. Butler doesn’t really fit the Warriors’ system since he often dominates the ball and plays a lot of one-on-one. Their ball movement would slow down with Butler handling it, and they'd become more predictable.

They should stick with what’s proven- like when they got stronger with Kevin Durant. I’m not sure if there’s anyone like KD available, but if there is, they should go for that instead and just let Butler stay with the Miami Heat.
Not a good idea and probably not gonna happen. I don't believe with such rumors anymore if it's not coming from Woj or anyone that has a reputation about giving these rumors a life. I do not think that the Miami Heat will be pushing that trade although it's only a rumor and a possible trade scenario.
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September 16, 2024, 06:08:22 PM
Butler definitely looks like he would be great for Warriors but that doesn't mean that we are looking at something that will get a great deal but at the same time this is not a real trade and not even a rumour but just a thought experiment and nothing more.
That goes for the clout and fans that likes to create rumors are like that.

But if it goes and becomes a real thing, trades like this is going to be a surprising one. What I think is the better rumor and close to reality is about Giannis wanting to move to Dallas.

It's more likely as we've heard it last season IIRC that he wants out of the Milwaukee Bucks.

No way the Bucks move giannis there is no reason too.  No reason to take on Dame without having giannis on the team.  He is locked in for 3 more years amd then a player option for another one.  And I'm not entirely sure he would ever want to leave.  A lot of people don't know but the Bucks organization had a huge part in getting his whole family to the united states.  There's things outside of basketball which makes people want to stay working for a certain team.
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September 16, 2024, 05:36:32 PM
Butler definitely looks like he would be great for Warriors but that doesn't mean that we are looking at something that will get a great deal but at the same time this is not a real trade and not even a rumour but just a thought experiment and nothing more.
That goes for the clout and fans that likes to create rumors are like that.

But if it goes and becomes a real thing, trades like this is going to be a surprising one. What I think is the better rumor and close to reality is about Giannis wanting to move to Dallas.

It's more likely as we've heard it last season IIRC that he wants out of the Milwaukee Bucks.
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September 16, 2024, 03:44:50 PM
Butler definitely looks like he would be great for Warriors but that doesn't mean that we are looking at something that will get a great deal but at the same time this is not a real trade and not even a rumour but just a thought experiment and nothing more.

Warriors probably will get to a point where they are going to probably not have anything at all and shouldn't really be considered that great and that is why I think we should not consider this to change that much. They will probably just consider it done and just deal with the season as they are right now without much change. I know that it looks like they are going to see this as changing much and could be something not that well for them and they could probably see this as something that will not be all that complicated at all. Warriors will just end up not that great and probably will miss the playoffs as well, it is not going to be that good anymore. They had their time and now they are done probably.
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September 16, 2024, 06:54:58 AM
Actually yesterday I saw a video about possible trade scenarios for Butler to the Golden state warriors.

I don’t think that’s a good idea, IMO. Butler doesn’t really fit the Warriors’ system since he often dominates the ball and plays a lot of one-on-one. Their ball movement would slow down with Butler handling it, and they'd become more predictable.

They should stick with what’s proven- like when they got stronger with Kevin Durant. I’m not sure if there’s anyone like KD available, but if there is, they should go for that instead and just let Butler stay with the Miami Heat.
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September 16, 2024, 06:46:40 AM


Actually yesterday I saw a video about possible trade scenarios for Butler to the Golden state warriors. It would be beneficial for both teams I guess but I think the Warriors would lose several contributors if they want to pursue Jimmy. Obviously Miami likes young talent and who else of the Warriors would be Kuminga or maybe Podziemski. I think Kuminga has more upside and he would need to be part of a possible package.
Well, for now not much will happen anyway I guess.


 I agree to that, kuminga is a valuable asset and if ever Warriors will push for this possible trade then letting Kuminga might be the risk that they take to get Jimmy, If the managements is aiming for quick outcome then maybe Butler might be a good option for them, let see if there's progress about this or maybe just another fan or poster who loves to catch out attentions that may be forgotten along the  way.

The GSW should never settle for this trade. I mean, Kuminga and Podziemski is a much better pieces for the team than Jimmy Butler. Plus, they are young, Jimmy has like maybe a couple or more years and he's done. Jimmy would mist likely going to retire before the GSW gets another momentum to take a shot for another championship.
The GSW should build a team around these young talents and not send them away.
I don't honestly think they'll do this trade.

They are good fit on the system already and changing it might put them on big risk to lose especially that Butler is a type of player that want to be the main man on the team, So maybe they encounter a problem with this if they make that trade to happen. They don't need a star to join their team and what they need is good chemistry together with their existing teammates. Also what I think their current roster is strong already compare last season. So everything is already fine on their end and they should not entertain this kind of trade.

What GSW need is to develop these guys and maybe they can use them for long term especially if their attitude won't change and they continue to develop or enhance their talents.
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September 16, 2024, 05:54:27 AM
So in essence the Miami Heat trade theor best player for role players and draft picks 20 years from now.  No ream general manager would ever do these things lol.  The heat met the the Easter conference finals a year ago.  I don't think they are championship material but getting rid of Jimmy buckets for parts is never happening.  Mikal bridges was traded for 5 first round picks.  Jimmy only gets traded for some type of package like that. 

A trade involving Jimmy Butler would only make sense if he starts declining significantly, but his slight drop in performance last year was due to injuries, which is understandable. Miami needs to boost their roster, but trading Butler, their best player, isn’t part of that plan. The trade scenario suggested by danherbias07 seems unlikely, especially since Coach Spo wouldn’t agree, given his past issues with LeBron. So let’s set that idea aside.

The Lakers need role players who can contribute, not another superstar who might just be overshadowed by LeBron. LeBron’s championship run with the Lakers should be enough for now. They should focus on making the most of what they have, as they’re still a championship contender with AD on the team.

Actually yesterday I saw a video about possible trade scenarios for Butler to the Golden state warriors. It would be beneficial for both teams I guess but I think the Warriors would lose several contributors if they want to pursue Jimmy. Obviously Miami likes young talent and who else of the Warriors would be Kuminga or maybe Podziemski. I think Kuminga has more upside and he would need to be part of a possible package.
Well, for now not much will happen anyway I guess.


 I agree to that, kuminga is a valuable asset and if ever Warriors will push for this possible trade then letting Kuminga might be the risk that they take to get Jimmy, If the managements is aiming for quick outcome then maybe Butler might be a good option for them, let see if there's progress about this or maybe just another fan or poster who loves to catch out attentions that may be forgotten along the  way.

The GSW should never settle for this trade. I mean, Kuminga and Podziemski is a much better pieces for the team than Jimmy Butler. Plus, they are young, Jimmy has like maybe a couple or more years and he's done. Jimmy would mist likely going to retire before the GSW gets another momentum to take a shot for another championship.
The GSW should build a team around these young talents and not send them away.
I don't honestly think they'll do this trade.
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September 16, 2024, 05:10:41 AM
So in essence the Miami Heat trade theor best player for role players and draft picks 20 years from now.  No ream general manager would ever do these things lol.  The heat met the the Easter conference finals a year ago.  I don't think they are championship material but getting rid of Jimmy buckets for parts is never happening.  Mikal bridges was traded for 5 first round picks.  Jimmy only gets traded for some type of package like that. 

A trade involving Jimmy Butler would only make sense if he starts declining significantly, but his slight drop in performance last year was due to injuries, which is understandable. Miami needs to boost their roster, but trading Butler, their best player, isn’t part of that plan. The trade scenario suggested by danherbias07 seems unlikely, especially since Coach Spo wouldn’t agree, given his past issues with LeBron. So let’s set that idea aside.

The Lakers need role players who can contribute, not another superstar who might just be overshadowed by LeBron. LeBron’s championship run with the Lakers should be enough for now. They should focus on making the most of what they have, as they’re still a championship contender with AD on the team.

Actually yesterday I saw a video about possible trade scenarios for Butler to the Golden state warriors. It would be beneficial for both teams I guess but I think the Warriors would lose several contributors if they want to pursue Jimmy. Obviously Miami likes young talent and who else of the Warriors would be Kuminga or maybe Podziemski. I think Kuminga has more upside and he would need to be part of a possible package.
Well, for now not much will happen anyway I guess.


Two mentioned young players is part of their rotation so provably that GSW won't gamble their future since those guys have potential to became their star. If they agree to trade Butler then provably that they will be in huge risk especially that Butler is not really so sure will stay on their team. Also he is 35 years old and there's few year left on his career so provably Warriors would not take a short term part since there's no assurance that they can get a championship if they push Butler to be part of their team.

Podziemski and Kuminga provably a good fit on Miami but I guess GSW won't provably throw away their these valuable young players.
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September 16, 2024, 04:49:14 AM
So in essence the Miami Heat trade theor best player for role players and draft picks 20 years from now.  No ream general manager would ever do these things lol.  The heat met the the Easter conference finals a year ago.  I don't think they are championship material but getting rid of Jimmy buckets for parts is never happening.  Mikal bridges was traded for 5 first round picks.  Jimmy only gets traded for some type of package like that. 

A trade involving Jimmy Butler would only make sense if he starts declining significantly, but his slight drop in performance last year was due to injuries, which is understandable. Miami needs to boost their roster, but trading Butler, their best player, isn’t part of that plan. The trade scenario suggested by danherbias07 seems unlikely, especially since Coach Spo wouldn’t agree, given his past issues with LeBron. So let’s set that idea aside.

The Lakers need role players who can contribute, not another superstar who might just be overshadowed by LeBron. LeBron’s championship run with the Lakers should be enough for now. They should focus on making the most of what they have, as they’re still a championship contender with AD on the team.

Actually yesterday I saw a video about possible trade scenarios for Butler to the Golden state warriors. It would be beneficial for both teams I guess but I think the Warriors would lose several contributors if they want to pursue Jimmy. Obviously Miami likes young talent and who else of the Warriors would be Kuminga or maybe Podziemski. I think Kuminga has more upside and he would need to be part of a possible package.
Well, for now not much will happen anyway I guess.


 I agree to that, kuminga is a valuable asset and if ever Warriors will push for this possible trade then letting Kuminga might be the risk that they take to get Jimmy, If the managements is aiming for quick outcome then maybe Butler might be a good option for them, let see if there's progress about this or maybe just another fan or poster who loves to catch out attentions that may be forgotten along the  way.
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September 16, 2024, 04:23:27 AM
So in essence the Miami Heat trade theor best player for role players and draft picks 20 years from now.  No ream general manager would ever do these things lol.  The heat met the the Easter conference finals a year ago.  I don't think they are championship material but getting rid of Jimmy buckets for parts is never happening.  Mikal bridges was traded for 5 first round picks.  Jimmy only gets traded for some type of package like that. 

Yeah, that's what I thought too unless they are rebuilding.

The Miami Heat had always been on the top when it came to the playoffs but they still cannot get that championship that they wanted. I remember Jimmy Butler not accepting the Eastern Conference Finals trophy last year when Bam Adebayo was handing it to him and that's because he wanted the bigger prize which is the championship.
Now, that could also be one reason why Jimmy would want out because he is trying to reach his goal and with his player option next year, he can actually get out and try to join other teams.

It’s ironic because he is always the problem whatever the team he is in. He is not consistent and the only consistency Jimmy buckets have is being a choker in finals. He missed a lot while he is cold when he needs the most. His game is not the type that can carry his teammates because he is just good when his teammates are good too.

I doubt he can get the championship without joining formidable team. He should stay on Miami if he wants to have a good career since he is not on his prime anymore. Miami just need some key player to have a good run because they already have potential players on their roster.

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September 16, 2024, 04:17:09 AM
So in essence the Miami Heat trade theor best player for role players and draft picks 20 years from now.  No ream general manager would ever do these things lol.  The heat met the the Easter conference finals a year ago.  I don't think they are championship material but getting rid of Jimmy buckets for parts is never happening.  Mikal bridges was traded for 5 first round picks.  Jimmy only gets traded for some type of package like that. 

Yeah, that's what I thought too unless they are rebuilding.

The Miami Heat had always been on the top when it came to the playoffs but they still cannot get that championship that they wanted. I remember Jimmy Butler not accepting the Eastern Conference Finals trophy last year when Bam Adebayo was handing it to him and that's because he wanted the bigger prize which is the championship.
Now, that could also be one reason why Jimmy would want out because he is trying to reach his goal and with his player option next year, he can actually get out and try to join other teams.
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September 16, 2024, 03:51:11 AM
So in essence the Miami Heat trade theor best player for role players and draft picks 20 years from now.  No ream general manager would ever do these things lol.  The heat met the the Easter conference finals a year ago.  I don't think they are championship material but getting rid of Jimmy buckets for parts is never happening.  Mikal bridges was traded for 5 first round picks.  Jimmy only gets traded for some type of package like that. 

A trade involving Jimmy Butler would only make sense if he starts declining significantly, but his slight drop in performance last year was due to injuries, which is understandable. Miami needs to boost their roster, but trading Butler, their best player, isn’t part of that plan. The trade scenario suggested by danherbias07 seems unlikely, especially since Coach Spo wouldn’t agree, given his past issues with LeBron. So let’s set that idea aside.

The Lakers need role players who can contribute, not another superstar who might just be overshadowed by LeBron. LeBron’s championship run with the Lakers should be enough for now. They should focus on making the most of what they have, as they’re still a championship contender with AD on the team.

Actually yesterday I saw a video about possible trade scenarios for Butler to the Golden state warriors. It would be beneficial for both teams I guess but I think the Warriors would lose several contributors if they want to pursue Jimmy. Obviously Miami likes young talent and who else of the Warriors would be Kuminga or maybe Podziemski. I think Kuminga has more upside and he would need to be part of a possible package.
Well, for now not much will happen anyway I guess.
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