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January 28, 2023, 01:20:46 PM
A triple-header today on ABC.  I know what I'll have going on in the background today...  First up is the Nuggets vs 76ers here in less than 2 hours, which will be a great game as both teams are on a tear this year.  Then you have the Knicks and Nets, battle of NY thing going on.  With KD out and the Knicks playing well, I think that the Knicks have a good chance of winning this one.  Then finally you have the Lakers vs the Celtics.  The Lakers have been playing great this month, so this game might be closer than you'd think, but the Celtics have one of the best records in the NBA this year, so it will be a challenge for LeBron.  I think a betting man would probably take Boston.
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January 28, 2023, 01:08:25 PM
If this will happen, offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension...

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Thave offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension but the versatile forward is yet to accept the deal, reports Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer. Grant became eligible for the deal earlier this month.

Do you think he is deserving of this huge contract? or will help accept it or decline it?

The final decision should have a very serious approach.

Expecting a much higher contract extension in the free agency is a good option but how sure he was that it will be offered by the Blazers? The original offer was already good and I can't blame him expecting for more but that was a risky move. Surely, he was thinking that overnight.

I hope Jerami Grant, if ever really pushes to decline the 4-year $112M contract extension but is, unfortunately, unable to get what he's expected in the free agency in the postseason, won't turn into a Dennis Schroder 2.0.

The difference here is Dennis Schroeder and Jerami Grant are 2 completely separate players.  Any team would take on Jeremy if they had cap space.  He can get that same contract from multiple teams.  Dennis Schroeder is easily replaceable with a player coming out of the draft for much cheaper.
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January 28, 2023, 01:05:52 PM
I even follow this team before and considered it one of the most humble and silent teams in the league.

In the NBA bubble, they are the only team that didn't lose any game. They are 9-0 in that season return on the bubble but still weren't able to play in the playoffs. That's the time they buzz on my mind that this team might be one of the threats in the league in the future.

And it happened, Phoenix Suns make a name and were able to dominate the Western Conference for two consecutive seasons finishing 2nd and 1st in the 2020-21 and 2021-22 seasons respectively. That's also the start of Devin Booker's turning from being silent into trash talking person. I thought of him as a humble player before but maybe because of his game improvement, his behavior also changed thinking he was a solid Superstar.
I believe that CP3 got old, and he used to be a floor general for that team, meaning they had some good players in the team and CP3 managed to bring the best out of those players and gave them the ball exactly when they needed it, he knew who needed the ball early on to get hot, he knew how long it would take them to get cold to keep them hot etc etc. However, the older he got, the less he could do any of that.

Plus, the whole thing with Ayton not wanting to be there and wanting to get paid a lot more but failed to do that, ended up with some resentment between him and the club as well. All these combined caused Booker to be a lone star, and he can't do much by himself, he needs some help.
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January 28, 2023, 12:47:10 PM
If this will happen, offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension...

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Thave offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension but the versatile forward is yet to accept the deal, reports Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer. Grant became eligible for the deal earlier this month.

Do you think he is deserving of this huge contract? or will help accept it or decline it?

The final decision should have a very serious approach.

Expecting a much higher contract extension in the free agency is a good option but how sure he was that it will be offered by the Blazers? The original offer was already good and I can't blame him expecting for more but that was a risky move. Surely, he was thinking that overnight.

I hope Jerami Grant, if ever really pushes to decline the 4-year $112M contract extension but is, unfortunately, unable to get what he's expected in the free agency in the postseason, won't turn into a Dennis Schroder 2.0.
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January 28, 2023, 12:07:11 PM
Simmons' fear of shooting the ball doesn't surprise me anymore, and I highly doubt the Nets will want to take a risk and offer him a contract extension. I'd rather believe the Nets will get rid of him before his current contract expires. By the way, I'm amused by the fact that even Shaq had a better free throw percentage in his career than Simmons has this season.

Even if he doesn't shoot perimeter shots, driving to the hoop should be his bread and butter in scoring. But even that is missing now to him. If he could just shoot free throws, taking it hard to the basket could earn him a lot of free throws. I think, he is afraid even of that.

Nevertheless, he can request for the max contract extension, it's just a matter of whether the Nets is going to give in to his demand.

Because him and the Nets organization has some issues in the past and so with that I have a feeling that the Nets will not give him that huge contract extension.

That is probably true but we know that Irving is still a very valuable player without his antics. And lately, we are not hearing any issues about him. He just keeps playing ball and focuses on it, I am sure other ball organization will pick him up if the Nets will drop him.

The Nets are a power house, they could've become a champion if they were not bugged with injuries.
But I'm not really sure why they struggled with Harden in their roster. Not really a huge Nets fan, but this year, if they can be healthy, they'll have a good chance for the championship.
Kyrie and Durant will be enough for the Nets to go to the Finals, the current Nets roster has depth.

with how they are performing right now, I am inclined to believe the real problem was with the coach last year. Aside from the injuries, he was not able to make the team work together. Nets basketball last year was just full of iso and no teamwork.
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January 28, 2023, 11:36:09 AM
There's always been talks and intrigue about these 2 teams since the Mavs made an upset and knocked the Suns out in the playoffs in 2021. It seems like some Phoenix fans and maybe even Booker himself hasn't moved on yet.

That's why when these two teams meet again early in the season and the Suns won it after a big comeback, the celebration is like they truly got revenge on the Mavericks lol. They should really be bitter in their last year's playoffs exit as just imagined having the best record in the NBA and up by 2 wins in the playoffs against the Mavericks but still choking and losing it. And the worst, they allow the Mavericks to give them as much as 46 points behind, a literal choke.

I hope though that they will meet again in this year's playoffs to continue their rivalry, with no injuries and in a healthy lineup.
But this lost though, I mean no Luka but still the Dallas were able to escape and get that needed win against their rival. So this could be another huge lost for them mentally and it's worst for them.
I wonder what Luka is saying at the back when he saw that his team won against the Suns without him.

Well, the Suns don't have Booker as well. Since he got injured, the Suns played not that good. Well, they got a 4 game winning streak before that lost and that shows a sign of adjustments, but still, many are expecting that the Suns will be the same team as they are 2 years ago when they are at the top of the standings. Now they are 25-25 and currently 9th in the league. Nowhere near the expectation of their fans and other people who have high expectations to them.

Will they enter the playoffs? Yes for sure. The question now is, where they will land. The worst thing that can happen to them is if they will end up at the play-in tournament.

I really doubt their presence if they can have an appearance in the playoffs because they won't get that far because they are heavily relying on Devin Booker alone, point god can't lift the team anymore if he can't give his power pass to someone who is reliable to shoot anymore. Moreover, the Jazz, Thunder, Blazers and Lakers might force their way too. So if CP3 and Booker will get injured again in the precious times then it's a no go for them for sure.

Most likely that the Suns has reach it's peaked with CP3 and Booker and the rest, like Ayton.

So now they are starting to crumble and struggle with their current roster, they are no longer in their primes, and the NBA has catch up with them. And the injuries too to CP3 and Booker could be a factor as well.

Most likely they could make the playoff, but again, facing a difficult team in the first round, they might choke again.
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January 28, 2023, 11:26:55 AM
There's always been talks and intrigue about these 2 teams since the Mavs made an upset and knocked the Suns out in the playoffs in 2021. It seems like some Phoenix fans and maybe even Booker himself hasn't moved on yet.

That's why when these two teams meet again early in the season and the Suns won it after a big comeback, the celebration is like they truly got revenge on the Mavericks lol. They should really be bitter in their last year's playoffs exit as just imagined having the best record in the NBA and up by 2 wins in the playoffs against the Mavericks but still choking and losing it. And the worst, they allow the Mavericks to give them as much as 46 points behind, a literal choke.

I hope though that they will meet again in this year's playoffs to continue their rivalry, with no injuries and in a healthy lineup.

But that revenge wasn't as sweet because they just defeated the Mavericks during the normal season games and not during the intense playoffs, whether they'll be bitter about it or not, Mavericks still holds them as they choke them for good and gave an embarrassment exit because of the big gap mainly in the eliminations where it's expected that most teams will be defensive and scores aren't that much in gap.
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January 28, 2023, 11:09:47 AM
Don't know what's wrong with Poole but likely he's trying to prove he is good or just showing off, too bad for Curry to be triggered like that. I think he should behave more old on his seniors because this isn't the first time he did this kind of attitude.
Showing off most likely, I am glad it ended at his hands too because that erases the mistakes he done. But Steve Kerr should still point it out to him, all the turnovers and poor decisions he is making.
Speaking of Poole, after the game Steph Curry was waiting in the dugout to congratulate the team and Poole was the last one, he made a joke out of the frustration action of Curry throwing his mouthguard. Poole mimics what he did and also threw his mouthguard before he gets near Steph. Hilarious.
https://twitter.com/GoIdenState/status/1618493239786639361?s=20&t=T-JOlfPYJ3ayQEehhxT7Og

If they lose on that segment for sure Curry will get disappointed about what Poole done in that sequence but since they won and Poole got a huge recovery for the mistake he done well that somehow erase the pressure. But still as what you said Kerr still need to correct that since this could start up another heated argument to their rooster and might could destroy their chemistry so coach should do their job to correct their players action next time to avoid their player getting ejected on the game since this is crucial especially if this will happen again to curry.

But it was just one game, Poole was also thinking that he can make it but failed. Good thing in the end he delivered a big win for the team. Curry understand the urgency of winning as they are not in a comfortable standing, and it's a shame that a depending champion would not even make it to the playoffs.

One game is important since it could destroy their relationship especially if the player is hard headed and will not follow the play set or play their role on the team. But since they win it eliminate the tension and now they are back ballin again. Poole shouldn't do it again because its very crucial matter if the same thing will happen and Curry or any other important player will get ejected to the game due to disappointment since this might be the reason to their defeat in a game.


Remember the time when Green and KD got an argument, they manage to bring them together and continue the season, but
after that look, where's KD now?

It is very important that the chemistry is still intact. The good example is how the splash bro works, Klay knows Steph is the main man
and he respects that and that's how they keep winning titles.

Looking to see if how Curry and Poole will continue to play together and how coach Kerr will take care of this.

The management are surely looking at the matter seriously because if they let them be, this issue will become worse and worse as the day goes by and destroying the whole roster. But that's not yet the worst part because they won't know that their standing is getting lower and lower until they can't join the upcoming playoffs. Looking at Poole closely, I like the fact that he is confident to shoot the ball because he can indeed make it and he is good at crucial moments, but the problem is, his head is getting bigger.
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January 28, 2023, 10:57:35 AM
There's always been talks and intrigue about these 2 teams since the Mavs made an upset and knocked the Suns out in the playoffs in 2021. It seems like some Phoenix fans and maybe even Booker himself hasn't moved on yet.

That's why when these two teams meet again early in the season and the Suns won it after a big comeback, the celebration is like they truly got revenge on the Mavericks lol. They should really be bitter in their last year's playoffs exit as just imagined having the best record in the NBA and up by 2 wins in the playoffs against the Mavericks but still choking and losing it. And the worst, they allow the Mavericks to give them as much as 46 points behind, a literal choke.

I hope though that they will meet again in this year's playoffs to continue their rivalry, with no injuries and in a healthy lineup.
But this lost though, I mean no Luka but still the Dallas were able to escape and get that needed win against their rival. So this could be another huge lost for them mentally and it's worst for them.
I wonder what Luka is saying at the back when he saw that his team won against the Suns without him.

Well, the Suns don't have Booker as well. Since he got injured, the Suns played not that good. Well, they got a 4 game winning streak before that lost and that shows a sign of adjustments, but still, many are expecting that the Suns will be the same team as they are 2 years ago when they are at the top of the standings. Now they are 25-25 and currently 9th in the league. Nowhere near the expectation of their fans and other people who have high expectations to them.

Will they enter the playoffs? Yes for sure. The question now is, where they will land. The worst thing that can happen to them is if they will end up at the play-in tournament.

I really doubt their presence if they can have an appearance in the playoffs because they won't get that far because they are heavily relying on Devin Booker alone, point god can't lift the team anymore if he can't give his power pass to someone who is reliable to shoot anymore. Moreover, the Jazz, Thunder, Blazers and Lakers might force their way too. So if CP3 and Booker will get injured again in the precious times then it's a no go for them for sure.
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January 28, 2023, 10:48:04 AM
And still the Memphis Grizzlies on the losing streak, they have no answer from the Wolves, good shooting night and everyone was scoring on their side. While the Memphis had one of their worst game and a lot of turnovers.

So much from them for not taking the West and just looking at Boston Celtics are per Ja Morant.

Now they are on a desperation, although they are still in the second spot but this is their 5th straight lost.

The Grizzlies' performance really hasn't been impressive lately, but I don't think they're desperate because of their current losing streak. As you said, they're still in second place in the Western Conference standings, and they still have an advantage over the Kings, who are currently in third place in the standings. I mean, the Grizzlies coach still has time to analyze and find the reason for the team's poor performance and make adjustments accordingly.
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January 28, 2023, 10:27:23 AM
If this will happen, offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension...
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Thave offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension but the versatile forward is yet to accept the deal, reports Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer. Grant became eligible for the deal earlier this month.
Do you think he is deserving of this huge contract? or will help accept it or decline it?
I think he does deserve it.
I am a big follower of Jerami Grant since his Nuggets years. That's when I saw how good he is specially combined with Jokic with a passing ability. He can always score deep on the paint as long as the passer can see him. He may not be the normal forward who can fill the stats in rebounds but his scoring ability is one of the consistent ones in the Trail Blazers. Plus, he can also shoot threes which help to spread the floor more.
Grant is averaging 21 PPG, I think that's good enough to be called as a consistent player, and with that huge contract, I'm sure he will not say no. He'll surely stay with the Blazers and help Lillard in the playoffs. This team has more room for improvement, Grant is quite new to the system, it's his first season with this team, so let's give them more time to create their chemistry, and that way they'll be able to win more games.

He is averaging 21 per game. That is certainly really good. Above average I would say. Now if the question is, is he actually worthy of the big contract that he is offered?

I would say yes.

We know almost everything is costly now. The price of everything went up because of the recent inflation. So it is not going to be easy to get a player who is averaging 21 points per game for anything less than that. And I do not also see any reason for the player to not agree with this deal. Because this is certainly a good amount of money.
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January 28, 2023, 08:44:52 AM
If this will happen, offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension...

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Thave offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension but the versatile forward is yet to accept the deal, reports Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer. Grant became eligible for the deal earlier this month.

Do you think he is deserving of this huge contract? or will help accept it or decline it?
I think he does deserve it.
I am a big follower of Jerami Grant since his Nuggets years. That's when I saw how good he is specially combined with Jokic with a passing ability. He can always score deep on the paint as long as the passer can see him. He may not be the normal forward who can fill the stats in rebounds but his scoring ability is one of the consistent ones in the Trail Blazers. Plus, he can also shoot threes which help to spread the floor more.


Grant is averaging 21 PPG, I think that's good enough to be called as a consistent player, and with that huge contract, I'm sure he will not say no. He'll surely stay with the Blazers and help Lillard in the playoffs. This team has more room for improvement, Grant is quite new to the system, it's his first season with this team, so let's give them more time to create their chemistry, and that way they'll be able to win more games.
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January 28, 2023, 08:20:32 AM
If this will happen, offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension...

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Thave offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension but the versatile forward is yet to accept the deal, reports Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer. Grant became eligible for the deal earlier this month.

Do you think he is deserving of this huge contract? or will help accept it or decline it?
I think he does deserve it.
I am a big follower of Jerami Grant since his Nuggets years. That's when I saw how good he is specially combined with Jokic with a passing ability. He can always score deep on the paint as long as the passer can see him. He may not be the normal forward who can fill the stats in rebounds but his scoring ability is one of the consistent ones in the Trail Blazers. Plus, he can also shoot threes which help to spread the floor more.
I don't what happened to the Suns but this is not how they were when they built the team Paul, Booker, Ayton, and Bridges in their first two years.
Back then, it was fun to watch a Suns game until it got dirty.

I even follow this team before and considered it one of the most humble and silent teams in the league.

In the NBA bubble, they are the only team that didn't lose any game. They are 9-0 in that season return on the bubble but still weren't able to play in the playoffs. That's the time they buzz on my mind that this team might be one of the threats in the league in the future.

And it happened, Phoenix Suns make a name and were able to dominate the Western Conference for two consecutive seasons finishing 2nd and 1st in the 2020-21 and 2021-22 seasons respectively. That's also the start of Devin Booker's turning from being silent into trash talking person. I thought of him as a humble player before but maybe because of his game improvement, his behavior also changed thinking he was a solid Superstar.
True, after that loss in the play-in tournament in the bubble even if they won all their games, that's when I started following the Suns' team. But it all changed and I don't know why. It's not about injuries but I think it's because of loads of drama in their team. Jae Crowder not playing and asking for a trade because of  Mikal Bridges, then Booker, CP3, Ayton's contract, and their coach who doesn't even handshake anymore after the game.
Maybe lack of sportsmanship because I still like players to be a sport even after a competitive game.
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January 28, 2023, 08:19:59 AM
If this will happen, offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension...

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Thave offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension but the versatile forward is yet to accept the deal, reports Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer. Grant became eligible for the deal earlier this month.

Do you think he is deserving of this huge contract? or will help accept it or decline it?

Hasn't he already rejected? Jerami Grant Rejects Blazers' Four-Year, $112M Offer With Intent On Making More In Free Agency
Pistons did a great job traded him last Summer. I don't think he should get more but I don't know what Blazers management think. He still wants to stay in Portland but with a higher paycheck. Portland's current squad don't promise anything other than a low play-off spot, keeping or releasing him don't really matter.

There's a lot of players rejecting huge offers, like Fred Van Fleet and now Jeremi Grant. All I can say is that hopefully they don't get "Schrodered", Lol. So we don't understand this players now, maybe they just want to see how the other team might offer to them or they don't want to play anymore with their current team that's why the rejected it even if the offer is huge, in my opinion.

As for Booker, same with Ja Morant, too much trash talking but they can't back it up in the playoffs.

So the moral lesson is that stay humble until you win a ring.
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January 28, 2023, 08:17:07 AM
Kyrie Irving's consistency in the last few games is spectacular, he's been helping the Nets a lot, because he's been on fire lately.
And that's why he's been asking for a maximum extension contract. There has to be a reason why he's playing like that and showing of the Nets management on what they've got if they're with him.
Yes, absolutely.
Despite the problems that Kyrie Irving had in the past, he's still showing, he is an excellent player (for me, even an allstar).
If Durant returns as soon as possible and Kyrie Irving maintains the performance he's been having lately, that will make the Nets a dangerous team as well an excellent one!!


The Nets are a power house, they could've become a champion if they were not bugged with injuries.
But I'm not really sure why they struggled with Harden in their roster. Not really a huge Nets fan, but this year, if they can be healthy, they'll have a good chance for the championship.
Kyrie and Durant will be enough for the Nets to go to the Finals, the current Nets roster has depth.
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January 28, 2023, 08:13:54 AM
If this will happen, offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension...

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Thave offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension but the versatile forward is yet to accept the deal, reports Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer. Grant became eligible for the deal earlier this month.

Do you think he is deserving of this huge contract? or will help accept it or decline it?

Hasn't he already rejected? Jerami Grant Rejects Blazers' Four-Year, $112M Offer With Intent On Making More In Free Agency
Pistons did a great job traded him last Summer. I don't think he should get more but I don't know what Blazers management think. He still wants to stay in Portland but with a higher paycheck. Portland's current squad don't promise anything other than a low play-off spot, keeping or releasing him don't really matter.
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January 28, 2023, 07:48:53 AM
If this will happen, offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension...

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Thave offered Jerami Grant his maximum four year, $112 million extension but the versatile forward is yet to accept the deal, reports Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer. Grant became eligible for the deal earlier this month.

Do you think he is deserving of this huge contract? or will help accept it or decline it?
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I don't what happened to the Suns but this is not how they were when they built the team Paul, Booker, Ayton, and Bridges in their first two years.
Back then, it was fun to watch a Suns game until it got dirty.

I even follow this team before and considered it one of the most humble and silent teams in the league.

In the NBA bubble, they are the only team that didn't lose any game. They are 9-0 in that season return on the bubble but still weren't able to play in the playoffs. That's the time they buzz on my mind that this team might be one of the threats in the league in the future.

And it happened, Phoenix Suns make a name and were able to dominate the Western Conference for two consecutive seasons finishing 2nd and 1st in the 2020-21 and 2021-22 seasons respectively. That's also the start of Devin Booker's turning from being silent into trash talking person. I thought of him as a humble player before but maybe because of his game improvement, his behavior also changed thinking he was a solid Superstar.
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January 28, 2023, 04:53:30 AM
And still the Memphis Grizzlies on the losing streak, they have no answer from the Wolves, good shooting night and everyone was scoring on their side. While the Memphis had one of their worst game and a lot of turnovers.

So much from them for not taking the West and just looking at Boston Celtics are per Ja Morant.

Now they are on a desperation, although they are still in the second spot but this is their 5th straight lost.
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January 28, 2023, 04:34:24 AM
Kyrie Irving's consistency in the last few games is spectacular, he's been helping the Nets a lot, because he's been on fire lately.
And that's why he's been asking for a maximum extension contract. There has to be a reason why he's playing like that and showing of the Nets management on what they've got if they're with him.
Yes, absolutely.
Despite the problems that Kyrie Irving had in the past, he's still showing, he is an excellent player (for me, even an allstar).
If Durant returns as soon as possible and Kyrie Irving maintains the performance he's been having lately, that will make the Nets a dangerous team as well an excellent one!!

I think it's more likely that Durant is absent that's why he is taking the game over. But if Durant will come back again, maybe his role will diminished as we all know that Durant is the alpha of the team.

Nevertheless, he can request for the max contract extension, it's just a matter of whether the Nets is going to give in to his demand.

Because him and the Nets organization has some issues in the past and so with that I have a feeling that the Nets will not give him that huge contract extension.
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