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January 03, 2023, 10:38:47 PM
Donovan Mitchell!!
71 points, 8 rebounds, and 11 assists.  Shocked 7/15 - long-distance shots. My oh my, he took the game to overtime where it's almost a white flag game.
Then dominated the whole overtime and snatch the win away from the Bulls.

The highest point made since Kobe in 2006 was 81 points. Mitchell is now listed as the 8th most points in NBA history tied with David Robinson. Wilt still holds the highest at 100.
Absolutely a monster, he found his zone and the Bulls didn't expect that. They chased a 21-point lead and flipped the game.
Include also the one that only Mitchell is holding right now.
He's the only player in NBA history who got a 70-point 10 assists in a single game.

On that night, 5 players exploded including Thompson, DeRozan, LeBron and Embiid. I believe that this trend will just continue until the end of the regular season. Players will just explode for more than 40+ points. The league right now is more focused on the offensive side thus, teams right now are scoring way higher than where it was years ago. Anyway, Mitchell for MVP?? What do you think?

In terms of career high double-double, no doubt that Donovan Mitchell owned that record now. 70 points with 10 assists in a single is not an easy job to pull off because the league now is getting more intense and crazier. But him for MVP, he definitely got a chance, but he still needed to at least join the Top 10 before we could start discussing it.

Just now, Giannis Antetokounmpo dropped 55 points with 10 rebounds as the Milwaukee Bucks defeats the Washington Wizards. And for the Celtics, they were defeated by the undermanned OKC with a 33 points deficit. The Celtics started 2023 with a loss against the Nuggets and now they are defeated again, don't know what happened to them but it really looks like they were played by the OKC.
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January 03, 2023, 10:16:40 PM
Hopefully, they can still win games without Zion on the lineup and proved that they are a different team this season as they are one of the teams on top right now in a very competitive West.

They can still win but it will be very hard. Without the two stars, only McCollum will be taking the lead to the young players left on the roster. It is just a few weeks before Zion will be back. They will be down a few games, but they will be able to gain it back when he comes back with Ingram.


Any reactions on Donovan Mitchell getting drug tested after an explosive performance? I know it is an incredible feat but I do not think he needs to be on drugs to be able to achieve it.

https://twitter.com/spidadmitchell/status/1610336026437865472?s=20&t=JEI7DwRGRMy2v4Y0nQKqMw
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January 03, 2023, 09:02:29 PM
Anyway, Mitchell for MVP?? What do you think?
No, I don't think so. Not because he is not good but because the offense is divided well in the Cavaliers' roster. When Garland is back the minutes for them are divided again. It's cool because it's avoiding injuries as stars are well rested and it creates a bigger chemistry for them to trust their teammates to be able to win their games.
That's the goal, a complete championship roster until the playoffs and the Finals. They are not about stats in that team, very unselfish plays.
Bad news for the Pelicans. Adrian Wojnarowski (Woj) is reporting that Zion has strained his hamstring and will miss several weeks of action while he recovers. Not great for the Pelicans that have been one of the best teams in the league this year, but hopefully they can get healthy and stay that way for the playoffs. Brandon Ingram and Zion Williamson have barely had a chance to play together this year.
And Ingram is not yet positive to be back in a week or more. This means more minutes for McCollum and Valanciunas, they may be able to defeat a weak team but their schedule doesn't look pretty. After the Rockets, they will be against the Nets, Mavs, Wizards, and Celtics. Ouch.
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January 03, 2023, 08:49:06 PM
Bad news for the Pelicans. Adrian Wojnarowski (Woj) is reporting that Zion has strained his hamstring and will miss several weeks of action while he recovers. Not great for the Pelicans that have been one of the best teams in the league this year, but hopefully they can get healthy and stay that way for the playoffs. Brandon Ingram and Zion Williamson have barely had a chance to play together this year.

I think the injury is not that bad and he could go back and recover from it, the problem though with this kind of hamstring injury is that it will reoccur in the future, just like what we have seen in Harden while he was with Houston and then with the Nets, it's not a career threatening but sometimes it will frustrate you having his kind of injuries.

Hopefully, they can still win games without Zion on the lineup and proved that they are a different team this season as they are one of the teams on top right now in a very competitive West.
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January 03, 2023, 07:25:32 PM
Bad news for the Pelicans. Adrian Wojnarowski (Woj) is reporting that Zion has strained his hamstring and will miss several weeks of action while he recovers. Not great for the Pelicans that have been one of the best teams in the league this year, but hopefully they can get healthy and stay that way for the playoffs. Brandon Ingram and Zion Williamson have barely had a chance to play together this year.
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January 03, 2023, 07:12:39 PM
Donovan Mitchell!!
71 points, 8 rebounds, and 11 assists.  Shocked 7/15 - long-distance shots. My oh my, he took the game to overtime where it's almost a white flag game.
Then dominated the whole overtime and snatch the win away from the Bulls.

The highest point made since Kobe in 2006 was 81 points. Mitchell is now listed as the 8th most points in NBA history tied with David Robinson. Wilt still holds the highest at 100.
Absolutely a monster, he found his zone and the Bulls didn't expect that. They chased a 21-point lead and flipped the game.
Include also the one that only Mitchell is holding right now.
He's the only player in NBA history who got a 70-point 10 assists in a single game.

On that night, 5 players exploded including Thompson, DeRozan, LeBron and Embiid. I believe that this trend will just continue until the end of the regular season. Players will just explode for more than 40+ points. The league right now is more focused on the offensive side thus, teams right now are scoring way higher than where it was years ago. Anyway, Mitchell for MVP?? What do you think?
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January 03, 2023, 06:59:10 PM
As long as there is time, try and win the game, don't settle just because the calculated time says so. The Cavs played defense quite impressive and then take the foul if they cannot steal it until they reach a tie for overtime.

Agree. If I'm not mistaken Cavaliers are down as much as 20+ points in that game but the patience to make a rally applies.

In today's NBA, a certain team is really not considered safe or on the verge of winning a game even up with huge points.

22/34 FG is an impressive stat. We can't just say that his 71 points is made in a force attempt but rather pure skills.
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January 03, 2023, 05:07:22 PM
Donovan Mitchell!!
71 points, 8 rebounds, and 11 assists.  Shocked 7/15 - long-distance shots. My oh my, he took the game to overtime where it's almost a white flag game.
Then dominated the whole overtime and snatch the win away from the Bulls.

The highest point made since Kobe in 2006 was 81 points. Mitchell is now listed as the 8th most points in NBA history tied with David Robinson. Wilt still holds the highest at 100.
Absolutely a monster, he found his zone and the Bulls didn't expect that. They chased a 21-point lead and flipped the game.

Yeah, it was a very special game for Mitchell, considering that such a performance might only happen once or twice in a player's career. By the way, the epic thing about Mitchell's performance is that he started the game pretty mediocre, as he only scored 5 points in the first quarter. However, it looks like the Mamba mentality has taken him over after that, and Mitchell became unstoppable, especially in the second half and overtime.

I guess that  performance was a statement against the Jazz, that he's out there playing the best of his career with the Cavs, where he actually fits better. And indeed that is a mamba mentality right there. Not afraid of stepping up to help his team win and recover from a huge deficit.
I've read an article in the social media, stating that Kyrie knew something is up with Mitchell, coz they both were playing call of duty, before the game and Kyrie said "he's focused and locked in". I personally think that game actually helps to keep him focused.
Indeed it is.
They never gave up until the last drop of a second in the regulation.
I have my bet for them (Cavs -3.5) at that time and I had given up that they will win or cover the spread but they didn't and thankfully my bet still won.  Grin
It was one of the performances that I have been looking for with other teams. As long as there is time, try and win the game, don't settle just because the calculated time says so. The Cavs played defense quite impressive and then take the foul if they cannot steal it until they reach a tie for overtime.

I didn't know they play that game COD, thanks for the info. 
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January 03, 2023, 05:01:03 PM
What site ranking is this in the first place? I just want to know. I doubt it for the GSW this time around it looks like they won't gonna make it. These days it keeps getting unpredictable on who's gonna win the NBA championship, and, when the playoffs come that's when the most unpredictable thing happens.
I do not know where you are basing that comment, but GSW still looks solid even with their poor start this season. They are 19-18, which is above 500. They are currently on a 4 winning streak and 5-5 on their last 10. All that was done without Curry and Wiggins. They are currently ranked #9 which is still okay since they still have 45 games to play. Last year, I think, they finished 5th in the West and were still able to take home the Championship. As long as they are able to get into the playoffs, they still have a good chance of winning the chip. They are a different beast in the playoffs, especially if they are all healthy.
Well, it's just my opinion and I think that's how I feel about the team right now, it starts with the Green-Poole altercation and I don't think they can make it till the end. Let us see if they can still make it this time but for me, they are not the same last season.

They did lose a couple of role players, and Green is getting old for his role, so there’s that. They’ve looked great at home though. I believe they have the best home record in the NBA. They’ve just been awful on the road. It’s hard to explain why they could be so good at home and so poor on the road, but if they get that figured out then I think they’ll be in a position to do some damage in the playoffs. That is if Steph comes back.
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January 03, 2023, 04:57:58 PM
What site ranking is this in the first place? I just want to know. I doubt it for the GSW this time around it looks like they won't gonna make it. These days it keeps getting unpredictable on who's gonna win the NBA championship, and, when the playoffs come that's when the most unpredictable thing happens.
I do not know where you are basing that comment, but GSW still looks solid even with their poor start this season. They are 19-18, which is above 500. They are currently on a 4 winning streak and 5-5 on their last 10. All that was done without Curry and Wiggins. They are currently ranked #9 which is still okay since they still have 45 games to play. Last year, I think, they finished 5th in the West and were still able to take home the Championship. As long as they are able to get into the playoffs, they still have a good chance of winning the chip. They are a different beast in the playoffs, especially if they are all healthy.
Well, it's just my opinion and I think that's how I feel about the team right now, it starts with the Green-Poole altercation and I don't think they can make it till the end. Let us see if they can still make it this time but for me, they are not the same last season. They need to stay out there until the playoffs, too many injured players on their team.
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January 03, 2023, 04:42:19 PM
Donovan Mitchell!!
71 points, 8 rebounds, and 11 assists.  Shocked 7/15 - long-distance shots. My oh my, he took the game to overtime where it's almost a white flag game.
Then dominated the whole overtime and snatch the win away from the Bulls.

The highest point made since Kobe in 2006 was 81 points. Mitchell is now listed as the 8th most points in NBA history tied with David Robinson. Wilt still holds the highest at 100.
Absolutely a monster, he found his zone and the Bulls didn't expect that. They chased a 21-point lead and flipped the game.

Yeah, it was a very special game for Mitchell, considering that such a performance might only happen once or twice in a player's career. By the way, the epic thing about Mitchell's performance is that he started the game pretty mediocre, as he only scored 5 points in the first quarter. However, it looks like the Mamba mentality has taken him over after that, and Mitchell became unstoppable, especially in the second half and overtime.

I guess that  performance was a statement against the Jazz, that he's out there playing the best of his career with the Cavs, where he actually fits better. And indeed that is a mamba mentality right there. Not afraid of stepping up to help his team win and recover from a huge deficit.
I've read an article in the social media, stating that Kyrie knew something is up with Mitchell, coz they both were playing call of duty, before the game and Kyrie said "he's focused and locked in". I personally think that game actually helps to keep him focused.
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January 03, 2023, 04:11:58 PM
What site ranking is this in the first place? I just want to know. I doubt it for the GSW this time around it looks like they won't gonna make it. These days it keeps getting unpredictable on who's gonna win the NBA championship, and, when the playoffs come that's when the most unpredictable thing happens.

I do not know where you are basing that comment, but GSW still looks solid even with their poor start this season. They are 19-18, which is above 500. They are currently on a 4 winning streak and 5-5 on their last 10. All that was done without Curry and Wiggins. They are currently ranked #9 which is still okay since they still have 45 games to play. Last year, I think, they finished 5th in the West and were still able to take home the Championship. As long as they are able to get into the playoffs, they still have a good chance of winning the chip. They are a different beast in the playoffs, especially if they are all healthy.

As always, Warriors are a late bloomer kind of team who struggles every start of the season but when they are already heated, they will start to bully the teams particularly if they are all healthy, even if one of them are injured, they are still pretty impressive because they will always step up to defend their team from the vulnerability. They just don't care about the bracketing because they know the real score, the important thing for them is to get a safe seat to the playoffs even if that means that they will just sit at the 5th or 6th seed.

The team now that looks poor is definitely Phoenix Suns, the team won't go anywhere without Booker. CP3 is not as good if there's no Booker.
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January 03, 2023, 04:06:36 PM
Surely, we haven't got any thought about Nash's lack of experience as a head coach because we're too focused to the three drama queen that has been making headlines ever since they teamed up, after all, it was just Nash who can't control the superstars in his stable that he was once under his watch. I'm just glad that the Nets management managed to have the correct choice and keeping Durant in-exchange of freeing Nash. Made some sense why KD has been quite after firing Nash.
I still think Steve Nash is a good coach, maybe the Nets is not for him with veterans all over their roster. If given one more chance to lead a young team he will surely learn more on how to keep everything under control and maybe that will also add to his experience on how to manage them.
KD and Kyrie, two stars, veterans in the league, they want a respected coach or someone who will just stay silent if they both want the game to be in their shoulders when it's needed.
No play required, just give them the ball.

Seems that way, I don't mean at all that Steve Nash cannot handle any team in the league now especially that he already got the experience. It's just that Brooklyn Nets is too much for him too handle, last season, he held 3 superstars (Harden included before he was traded) that are hard to control because everyone single one of the stars he handled had some issues and there's this Covid-19 too that kept on hitting the roster.

I agree that he should be given a 2nd chance but this time, a much younger team. But that's a tough challenge now because he's now painted as a bad image because the Nets is now straight as an arrow since he was removed.
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January 03, 2023, 03:18:38 PM
Donovan Mitchell!!
71 points, 8 rebounds, and 11 assists.  Shocked 7/15 - long-distance shots. My oh my, he took the game to overtime where it's almost a white flag game.
Then dominated the whole overtime and snatch the win away from the Bulls.

The highest point made since Kobe in 2006 was 81 points. Mitchell is now listed as the 8th most points in NBA history tied with David Robinson. Wilt still holds the highest at 100.
Absolutely a monster, he found his zone and the Bulls didn't expect that. They chased a 21-point lead and flipped the game.

Yeah, it was a very special game for Mitchell, considering that such a performance might only happen once or twice in a player's career. By the way, the epic thing about Mitchell's performance is that he started the game pretty mediocre, as he only scored 5 points in the first quarter. However, it looks like the Mamba mentality has taken him over after that, and Mitchell became unstoppable, especially in the second half and overtime.

A mamba mentality which leads him not to shy out in taking those shots after that low start in the first quarter, good thing with him is he really takes shots and his teammate is allowing him.

71 points and with how he turned things out, snatching the game against the bulls, really sweet
for both fans and those gamblers who entrust their bets for the Cavs, Bulls almost take this but
that 71 points from Mitchell, especially during overtime, is really big.
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January 03, 2023, 02:46:50 PM
Donovan Mitchell!!
71 points, 8 rebounds, and 11 assists.  Shocked 7/15 - long-distance shots. My oh my, he took the game to overtime where it's almost a white flag game.
Then dominated the whole overtime and snatch the win away from the Bulls.

The highest point made since Kobe in 2006 was 81 points. Mitchell is now listed as the 8th most points in NBA history tied with David Robinson. Wilt still holds the highest at 100.
Absolutely a monster, he found his zone and the Bulls didn't expect that. They chased a 21-point lead and flipped the game.

Yeah, it was a very special game for Mitchell, considering that such a performance might only happen once or twice in a player's career. By the way, the epic thing about Mitchell's performance is that he started the game pretty mediocre, as he only scored 5 points in the first quarter. However, it looks like the Mamba mentality has taken him over after that, and Mitchell became unstoppable, especially in the second half and overtime.
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January 03, 2023, 01:34:00 PM
Mitchell had 71 points, that's extraordinary, he was like the Kobe Bryant of the LA Lakers during Kobe's prime years. We will surely remember that, he has become more comfortable playing with the Cavaliers and just like the Warriors, they are good in defending their home.
It was the first time I saw him produce that huge number of points. I know Mitchell is good but he does not produce like Luka, so this one is really special for him and most especially for the fans. He had his own version of Luka, intentionally miss the FT, and shoot the ball to bring the game to OT. Imagine, at some point they were down 20 points, and slowly they come back to beat the Bulls.
My God this is definitely in one of those categories, it's historical. It was also like Kobe's 81 in the sense that Cavs were losing big time before Mitchell took over and he started to score like it was nothing and got the tie as well, it was his effort that got the win and without him scoring like this they wouldn't be able to.

Like I remember Booker scoring 70 points a few years back, but they were losing big time and the team just gave him the ball and the other team didn't even felt like defending because they were beating anyway, Celtics if I am not wrong and they got the win, this wasn't like that, Mitchell scored and brought the team the win they needed.

I remember when Booker did it too. It was hilarious that all the players were so happy and posing for pictures right after they LOST the game. That loss basically made it a meaningless 70 in my opinion and they should’ve been ashamed for celebrating it. Mitchell getting 71 in a win is respectable and one hell of a performance. Between this and Luka’s numbers earlier in the week, some big things are happening in the NBA.

Klay Thompson have a 54 point performance too, in a double overtime, so yeah some big things are happening right now, players producing big numbers and now becoming a norm for this top players to score, 50,60, or even 70 points in a night.

So I'm expecting another big numbers from another superstar to match or even top this one out. Maybe another huge triple double of sorts or another 60 point performance.
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January 03, 2023, 12:12:28 PM
Mitchell had 71 points, that's extraordinary, he was like the Kobe Bryant of the LA Lakers during Kobe's prime years. We will surely remember that, he has become more comfortable playing with the Cavaliers and just like the Warriors, they are good in defending their home.
It was the first time I saw him produce that huge number of points. I know Mitchell is good but he does not produce like Luka, so this one is really special for him and most especially for the fans. He had his own version of Luka, intentionally miss the FT, and shoot the ball to bring the game to OT. Imagine, at some point they were down 20 points, and slowly they come back to beat the Bulls.
My God this is definitely in one of those categories, it's historical. It was also like Kobe's 81 in the sense that Cavs were losing big time before Mitchell took over and he started to score like it was nothing and got the tie as well, it was his effort that got the win and without him scoring like this they wouldn't be able to.

Like I remember Booker scoring 70 points a few years back, but they were losing big time and the team just gave him the ball and the other team didn't even felt like defending because they were beating anyway, Celtics if I am not wrong and they got the win, this wasn't like that, Mitchell scored and brought the team the win they needed.

I remember when Booker did it too. It was hilarious that all the players were so happy and posing for pictures right after they LOST the game. That loss basically made it a meaningless 70 in my opinion and they should’ve been ashamed for celebrating it. Mitchell getting 71 in a win is respectable and one hell of a performance. Between this and Luka’s numbers earlier in the week, some big things are happening in the NBA.
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January 03, 2023, 11:58:26 AM
What site ranking is this in the first place? I just want to know. I doubt it for the GSW this time around it looks like they won't gonna make it. These days it keeps getting unpredictable on who's gonna win the NBA championship, and, when the playoffs come that's when the most unpredictable thing happens.

I do not know where you are basing that comment, but GSW still looks solid even with their poor start this season. They are 19-18, which is above 500. They are currently on a 4 winning streak and 5-5 on their last 10. All that was done without Curry and Wiggins. They are currently ranked #9 which is still okay since they still have 45 games to play. Last year, I think, they finished 5th in the West and were still able to take home the Championship. As long as they are able to get into the playoffs, they still have a good chance of winning the chip. They are a different beast in the playoffs, especially if they are all healthy.

5 winning streak now for GSW. They are performing decently even without their 2 starters. And it is also clear that Steph and Wiggins can return this season so the experts are already anticipating the team to get a spot in the playoffs. This team is proven over time and they are indeed a different beast once they enter the playoffs. Due to their wide experience in the finals, their upcoming young players' confidence continues to grow each day as they are mentored by the very best of this decade.

The odds I posted earlier was taken from BK8's NBA outright. Maybe some other sports betting sites have different odds but they aren't that far and they will become more and more close as the season progress.
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January 03, 2023, 08:50:16 AM
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Right now, the Nuggets, Pelicans and Memphis are doing well, but comes in the playoffs, it's still all for the Warriors.
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and yeah, come playoff time, who knows, with a healthy Curry and Wiggins, it might be a different Warrior team, upping up their level.
This is actually the most important point here. Playoffs belong to the team with the most available players in a lot of cases. You can also have a healthy Wiggins and Curry but will still be difficult if the likes of Poole and Thompson are sidelined due to some injury. The same goes for the other teams.
Zion Williamson for the Pelicans will be crucial because we have seen he can carry a team even without Brandon Ingram but of course it will still be better if he is healthy.
Nuggets without Jokic will not be a Nuggets team anymore. Luka Doncic too but last year they somehow made it work with Brunson, but he is a Knick now and I doubt Dinwiddie can carry the load.
Memphis Grizzlies without Ja Morant can also work it out and it was proved this season when he was resting for his knee injury, iirc.
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January 03, 2023, 08:17:22 AM
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Right now, the Nuggets, Pelicans and Memphis are doing well, but comes in the playoffs, it's still all for the Warriors.
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and yeah, come playoff time, who knows, with a healthy Curry and Wiggins, it might be a different Warrior team, upping up their level.
This is actually the most important point here. Playoffs belong to the team with the most available players in a lot of cases. You can also have a healthy Wiggins and Curry but will still be difficult if the likes of Poole and Thompson are sidelined due to some injury. The same goes for the other teams.
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