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December 27, 2022, 05:40:21 AM
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Well, at his age, he's stamina is relatively low as well, but the surprising thing is that he still plays 36 MPG.
It's not as surprising anymore when you don't hustle as hard on defense and spend most time in the court on offense. Some would even argue that he continues to play a lot of minutes for stats padding in order to catch or surpass Kareem's all-time NBA leading scorer record.
That's a bad argument, he ain't like WB. Lebron's work ethic is the one we are witnessing now and I loved that player because of that. Don't get me wrong, I am not a big fan of him but his work ethic is something amazing that even his haters should consider. It's not like he is lazy, he rarely misses games, and he took care of his body at a rate that he could still play like he is not that far from his prime.

He will surpass Kareem, there's no doubt about that but stat padding is not on his bucket list. I just don't see it.
About defense, well he had a history of being bad at it even when he was young.
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December 27, 2022, 05:34:43 AM

No offense with LeBron fans, he can still provide the numbers, but like what you said, it is pointless if they will continue to lose the game.

True, Lebron is an exceptional player but he is not as good as the greats that could consistently lead a championship. MJ will always be the GOAT, next to him is Kobe Bryant, then probably Lebron will sit in the 3rd rank. Though in terms of stats, I think Lebron has a better stats since he is still active until now and he can still break all time records if he remains active for years.
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December 27, 2022, 03:19:19 AM
Regard to LeBron James, he continues to play, most of the games he manages to have a good score, in others not so much, unfortunately he cannot carry the team on his shoulders as he did before, and it is clear that he needs help, especially AD to get the Lakers to the playoffs and perform well in this stage of the competition!

Lebron is not the main man anymore. Though he can still contribute to the offense, he is not that much anymore in defense. He is not as intense as he was when he was in Miami or in Cleveland. AD is the main man of the Lakers right now but his availability to play prohibits him to carry the team. IF Lebron is not bringing too much income to the Lakers organization, I think he will be out already. Let's see how far the current roster will take them and how long the Lakers will stick to AD and Lebron if they do not bring success to the Lakers.



No doubt about that, I mean, the only reason why the Lakers is letting LeBron James stay is because of the fact that he can attract viewers that benefits the organization especially if they are playing at home. Aside from that? Nothing anymore, his points is sure big almost every game but that's not what the team needed because those points will be pointless if they are also vulnerable at defense as that is not the basis to keep the team afloat mainly now that Davis is not around to help the team.

Without Davis, I doubt LeBron will single carry the team unless he will let his teammates to play on their own and he will be the one
that will adjust, let the kids play and go along with the direction they want.

Until now, it seems that his teammates are intimidated when he's inside the court, though the lineup is far from other west competitors
without Davis, the chance is really slim to move forward even in the play-in.

No offense with LeBron fans, he can still provide the numbers, but like what you said, it is pointless if they will continue to lose the game.
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December 27, 2022, 02:18:51 AM
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Well, at his age, he's stamina is relatively low as well, but the surprising thing is that he still plays 36 MPG.
It's not as surprising anymore when you don't hustle as hard on defense and spend most time in the court on offense. Some would even argue that he continues to play a lot of minutes for stats padding in order to catch or surpass Kareem's all-time NBA leading scorer record.
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December 27, 2022, 01:20:47 AM
Regard to LeBron James, he continues to play, most of the games he manages to have a good score, in others not so much, unfortunately he cannot carry the team on his shoulders as he did before, and it is clear that he needs help, especially AD to get the Lakers to the playoffs and perform well in this stage of the competition!

Lebron is not the main man anymore. Though he can still contribute to the offense, he is not that much anymore in defense. He is not as intense as he was when he was in Miami or in Cleveland. AD is the main man of the Lakers right now but his availability to play prohibits him to carry the team. IF Lebron is not bringing too much income to the Lakers organization, I think he will be out already. Let's see how far the current roster will take them and how long the Lakers will stick to AD and Lebron if they do not bring success to the Lakers.


I don't know. But I believe LeBron James is still the Lakers best player.

One factor that I think is relevant is that, he is not as enthusiastic with the team, like beforehe, day after day it seems that the level of the Lakers is decreasing and I believe that this is putting LJ down.

AD is greatly missed, and I have no doubts about that. An interesting point is that, if LeBron James suffers an injury, the Lakers still have a player who can replace him (in the worst case, adapting, maybe Westbrook, Walker, Reaves, Beverley and others). Now if AD gets injured and needs to stay out (and this is happening), unfortunately the Lakers don't have a player that can replace him, because he is an extremely high quality PF/C and an excellent defensive player, and the reserves or others Lakers players are unable to resolve their foul.
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December 27, 2022, 01:06:56 AM
Did you notice that there are only 2 officials in the Portland Trail Blazers versus Charlotte Hornets game?
I think this is the first time I saw that or maybe I don't remember a time I did see this event happening as I am not curious yet about these delicate details.

As a viewer, this scares me for players can use holes to avoid being called for a charge, traveling, or other technicalities because there's a blind spot on the other side of the court.
Here is the information on referees assigned for the whole night. I marked the one I am talking about in red.

https://official.nba.com/referee-assignments/
Have any of you experienced this or seen this?
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December 27, 2022, 12:43:02 AM
Regard to LeBron James, he continues to play, most of the games he manages to have a good score, in others not so much, unfortunately he cannot carry the team on his shoulders as he did before, and it is clear that he needs help, especially AD to get the Lakers to the playoffs and perform well in this stage of the competition!

Lebron is not the main man anymore. Though he can still contribute to the offense, he is not that much anymore in defense. He is not as intense as he was when he was in Miami or in Cleveland. AD is the main man of the Lakers right now but his availability to play prohibits him to carry the team. IF Lebron is not bringing too much income to the Lakers organization, I think he will be out already. Let's see how far the current roster will take them and how long the Lakers will stick to AD and Lebron if they do not bring success to the Lakers.


What do you expect. A 38-year-old player that still the main offense of the team?

Yes, he's been an all-star all throughout his career and he also gave all of the team he went a title in the past but like others, he's only a human and his body also weakens overtime. At 38 years old, we consider a player already past his prime, but Lebron is different (well kinda). He is still averaging 27 PPG still and with his age, that's already a huge contribution to the team. His defense? Well, at his age, he's stamina is relatively low as well, but the surprising thing is that he still plays 36 MPG.

Right now, the Lakers has no main man. AD? I can't consider him as a main man because just look where he is "AGAIN". A foot injury that will let him sit until February. It can't be Westbrook also. Now the Lakers are in a 4-game losing streak. I know that there are still many Lebron fans here but...it's pretty obvious that he can't carry a team anymore or not at least if he has all-star players on his team. The Lakers will not enter the playoffs this season "AGAIN".
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December 26, 2022, 08:41:03 PM
Regard to LeBron James, he continues to play, most of the games he manages to have a good score, in others not so much, unfortunately he cannot carry the team on his shoulders as he did before, and it is clear that he needs help, especially AD to get the Lakers to the playoffs and perform well in this stage of the competition!

Lebron is not the main man anymore. Though he can still contribute to the offense, he is not that much anymore in defense. He is not as intense as he was when he was in Miami or in Cleveland. AD is the main man of the Lakers right now but his availability to play prohibits him to carry the team. IF Lebron is not bringing too much income to the Lakers organization, I think he will be out already. Let's see how far the current roster will take them and how long the Lakers will stick to AD and Lebron if they do not bring success to the Lakers.



No doubt about that, I mean, the only reason why the Lakers is letting LeBron James stay is because of the fact that he can attract viewers that benefits the organization especially if they are playing at home. Aside from that? Nothing anymore, his points is sure big almost every game but that's not what the team needed because those points will be pointless if they are also vulnerable at defense as that is not the basis to keep the team afloat mainly now that Davis is not around to help the team.
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December 26, 2022, 06:42:53 PM
Regard to LeBron James, he continues to play, most of the games he manages to have a good score, in others not so much, unfortunately he cannot carry the team on his shoulders as he did before, and it is clear that he needs help, especially AD to get the Lakers to the playoffs and perform well in this stage of the competition!

Lebron is not the main man anymore. Though he can still contribute to the offense, he is not that much anymore in defense. He is not as intense as he was when he was in Miami or in Cleveland. AD is the main man of the Lakers right now but his availability to play prohibits him to carry the team. IF Lebron is not bringing too much income to the Lakers organization, I think he will be out already. Let's see how far the current roster will take them and how long the Lakers will stick to AD and Lebron if they do not bring success to the Lakers.

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December 26, 2022, 06:26:02 PM
I think referees need to stop calling charges on monster dunks like that. The defender should meet him in their air to try and block, or get out of the way and let us see the highlight. I think the NBA will do something about this before too long. That play was dangerous for Gordon and everyone would love to see more of it. Defenders sliding under him is the last thing anyone wants.

What's the essence now of having a restricted area if no call will be made for a "monster dunk" attempt?

That play by Gordon is really dangerous but these players don't care about that as they are really feeling it when there's an attempt of doing it.

Anyways, since that dunk counted, it doesn't spoil the fun and can be a candidate for Dunk of the Year.
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December 26, 2022, 05:45:52 PM
Some amazing dunks today. Not the most exciting Christmas matchups but Aaron Gordon and Ja Morant didn’t disappoint with the highlight real dunks. Ja missed his big one but Gordon managed to get above the rim quite a few times on the Suns. Reverse alley oops, dunking over people… He was a beast today. LeBron and Embiid didn’t have such bad days either.
Yeah, Aaron Gordon seems to change since he made chemistry with Nikola Jokic. He is now the backdoor cutter of him just like Gary Harris when he was still a Nuggets. They are pretty solid now with him protecting the rim and making offensive rebounds for a second-shot opportunity.
Plus, the assists of the Joker also keep on going up because of it. Triple-doubles per game will be easier for him now if Gordon keeps this up.

As for Lebron, he started hot on attacking the paint and no Mavs player can stop him. But aging really hurts, he was exhausted with that back-and-forth speed runs. Despite all that, he still made 38 points in his 17th Christmas game. Amazing.
This season, Aaron Gordon is without a doubt improving. He appeared to be a failure earlier in Denver. He shoots the ball only when necessary, which further improved his efficiency. The defense of Denver is not well-known, but with Gordon, they are getting close to achieving a balance between offense and defense.

Lebron regardless of turning slower can perform well and stack points using his brilliant smart moves alongside his size and he can shoot as well. However, he absolutely requires assistance, and Davis ought to remain healthy if the Lakers are to win more games.
Well, I think I was the only one who realized that lol
It is clear the change that Gordon had during this time he is in Denver, this is called chemistry, I even believe in saying that he had a chemistry with Jokic in the team, and little by little they are improving (mainly Aaron Gordon), let's see how much they can improve. But this change he had in the Nuggets is clear and expressive.

Regard to LeBron James, he continues to play, most of the games he manages to have a good score, in others not so much, unfortunately he cannot carry the team on his shoulders as he did before, and it is clear that he needs help, especially AD to get the Lakers to the playoffs and perform well in this stage of the competition!
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December 26, 2022, 05:21:56 PM
This season, Aaron Gordon is without a doubt improving. He appeared to be a failure earlier in Denver. He shoots the ball only when necessary, which further improved his efficiency. The defense of Denver is not well-known, but with Gordon, they are getting close to achieving a balance between offense and defense.
If I am not mistaken he is on the list of the most improved player of the year.
Denver Nuggets suddenly became a championship caliber again mostly because their starters are back and healthy.
Murray was feeling it and he is dunking which means the mental problem after healing is gone. That means a lot for players who went through that phase.
Now, I am waiting for Porter Jr. to return from being their sharpshooter, he is not there yet but once that happens they will be one scary team.
I think Gordon was mold into a defensive stopper by Denver, like what Iggy has been when he join the Warriors years ago. And that is why we didn't see flashes of him dunking or scoring like he was with the Magic.

And he didn't need to be a scorer, they have Jokic, Murray and Porter Jr.

But last game, that dunk though, reminds me of Kobe over Nash.

I think referees need to stop calling charges on monster dunks like that. The defender should meet him in their air to try and block, or get out of the way and let us see the highlight. I think the NBA will do something about this before too long. That play was dangerous for Gordon and everyone would love to see more of it. Defenders sliding under him is the last thing anyone wants.

How do you differentiate between someone who is dunking versus someone who is yet to go up for a dunk and run into a player.  Too easy to confuse the two.  Rule will stick or the entire charging rule will need to be changed.  They aren't going to change them just for people who go up for dunks.
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December 26, 2022, 05:21:46 PM
This season, Aaron Gordon is without a doubt improving. He appeared to be a failure earlier in Denver. He shoots the ball only when necessary, which further improved his efficiency. The defense of Denver is not well-known, but with Gordon, they are getting close to achieving a balance between offense and defense.
If I am not mistaken he is on the list of the most improved player of the year.
Denver Nuggets suddenly became a championship caliber again mostly because their starters are back and healthy.
Murray was feeling it and he is dunking which means the mental problem after healing is gone. That means a lot for players who went through that phase.
Now, I am waiting for Porter Jr. to return from being their sharpshooter, he is not there yet but once that happens they will be one scary team.
I think Gordon was mold into a defensive stopper by Denver, like what Iggy has been when he join the Warriors years ago. And that is why we didn't see flashes of him dunking or scoring like he was with the Magic.

And he didn't need to be a scorer, they have Jokic, Murray and Porter Jr.

But last game, that dunk though, reminds me of Kobe over Nash.

I think referees need to stop calling charges on monster dunks like that. The defender should meet him in their air to try and block, or get out of the way and let us see the highlight. I think the NBA will do something about this before too long. That play was dangerous for Gordon and everyone would love to see more of it. Defenders sliding under him is the last thing anyone wants.

Similar to the dunk of Wiggins as well against Luka but they call it a offensive foul, lol, it take away the celebration. But yeah, good thing is that Gordon was able to control his fall as the defensive player that stand their and then slide under him losing his balance.

And that's why most of the OG of basketball or those who played in the 90's are calling this era soft because of dunks like that being called offensive. Imagine Jordan dunking on New York and then calling it a offensive foul, hehehe.
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December 26, 2022, 05:10:12 PM
This season, Aaron Gordon is without a doubt improving. He appeared to be a failure earlier in Denver. He shoots the ball only when necessary, which further improved his efficiency. The defense of Denver is not well-known, but with Gordon, they are getting close to achieving a balance between offense and defense.
If I am not mistaken he is on the list of the most improved player of the year.
Denver Nuggets suddenly became a championship caliber again mostly because their starters are back and healthy.
Murray was feeling it and he is dunking which means the mental problem after healing is gone. That means a lot for players who went through that phase.
Now, I am waiting for Porter Jr. to return from being their sharpshooter, he is not there yet but once that happens they will be one scary team.
I think Gordon was mold into a defensive stopper by Denver, like what Iggy has been when he join the Warriors years ago. And that is why we didn't see flashes of him dunking or scoring like he was with the Magic.

And he didn't need to be a scorer, they have Jokic, Murray and Porter Jr.

But last game, that dunk though, reminds me of Kobe over Nash.

I think referees need to stop calling charges on monster dunks like that. The defender should meet him in their air to try and block, or get out of the way and let us see the highlight. I think the NBA will do something about this before too long. That play was dangerous for Gordon and everyone would love to see more of it. Defenders sliding under him is the last thing anyone wants.
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December 26, 2022, 04:32:29 PM
This season, Aaron Gordon is without a doubt improving. He appeared to be a failure earlier in Denver. He shoots the ball only when necessary, which further improved his efficiency. The defense of Denver is not well-known, but with Gordon, they are getting close to achieving a balance between offense and defense.
If I am not mistaken he is on the list of the most improved player of the year.
Denver Nuggets suddenly became a championship caliber again mostly because their starters are back and healthy.
Murray was feeling it and he is dunking which means the mental problem after healing is gone. That means a lot for players who went through that phase.
Now, I am waiting for Porter Jr. to return from being their sharpshooter, he is not there yet but once that happens they will be one scary team.
I think Gordon was mold into a defensive stopper by Denver, like what Iggy has been when he join the Warriors years ago. And that is why we didn't see flashes of him dunking or scoring like he was with the Magic.

And he didn't need to be a scorer, they have Jokic, Murray and Porter Jr.

But last game, that dunk though, reminds me of Kobe over Nash.
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December 26, 2022, 03:16:37 PM
... Ja Morant, will be the same as well.

He looks great for not, but he will lose his hopes in 7-8 years and will become a boring player to watch eventually. Shooters keep staying good, rebounders too, passers too, but if all you do is jump super high and be athletic then you are going to lose that in no time and will become a player that is slow and useless.

Ja is still young. He jumps high and is athletic, but I do not think that is all he can do. He led NCAA in assists in 2019 so we know he can pass. Hopefully he learns from Westbrook and develops some skills other than being athletic. IF he improves his FT, 3-points and Field goal percentage that will go a lot with his athleticism. And maybe, he can avoid jumping too high too much to avoid getting injured.

Right now, Houston is in rebuilding mode, they are building young superstars like Jallen Green and Porter Jr. so Harden will be stealing the spotlight from them.

Those young stars will learn so much from James Harden as well, so it will be alright to steal their spotlight for a while. Harden has a lot of experience, if he can teach those young guns, maybe they will be successful in Houston. But if he goes back to Houston, Harden may delay his championship aspiration. He is already 33, I do not think he can wait for those two to major and get into their prime. Let's see this summer if he will pursue going back to Houston.
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December 26, 2022, 02:54:38 PM
The Celtics and the Warriors are the favorites to win the championship this season.

The Celtics hold the top spot in the standings, and their current performance looks much better compared to the last regular season. So the Celtics can really be called the favorites of the championship, and it looks like they have a good chance to reach the finals again.
At the same time, I wouldn't call the Warriors the favorites this season. The Warriors are 11th in the Western Conference right now, and I guess they'll drop even lower in the standings as they've performed pretty mediocrely without Curry.
Curry will come back soon and they will play better, compared to the last season, they are complete now and does have a good big man which can help their weakness in the paint. Last season, the lakers used their great offensive skills to win, so I guess it still boils down to experienced and the coach of the team which the Warriors have the edge.
That's for sure, but Curry has to be healthy in the playoffs, otherwise, they will not really make it to the NBA Finals. Their struggle in the regular season is nothing as long as they will be in the playoffs as that's where they can most comfortable, so good luck to the other teams and they should try to play better not only in the regular season but in the playoffs as well.

Good contenders in the West now IMO are the following teams.

1-Nuggets
2-Dallas
3-LA Clippers

I guess we will find out about that soon in the upcoming playoffs, for now, the Warriors will have to stand their ground while Stephen Curry is still recovering from the injury he sustained. I'm already expecting that the Warriors will start dominating the league again once Curry is back on the line up, he will be much stronger because he rested for a while.

Anyway, I agree with your list. For me, that list is already good enough, so I will just add the Grizzlies and Pelicans.

Hard to say they will dominate since to many team are full with talents and they can even even defeat the top seed so maybe we can say that they have more better chances to win their games if Curry is around and playing. This season might be a big challenge for them and most likely the way to defend their title is very tough since they might get affected by injuries again.

But also don't forget Suns they always quite do good games and have potential to win a title this season.
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December 26, 2022, 02:33:13 PM
This season, Aaron Gordon is without a doubt improving. He appeared to be a failure earlier in Denver. He shoots the ball only when necessary, which further improved his efficiency. The defense of Denver is not well-known, but with Gordon, they are getting close to achieving a balance between offense and defense.
If I am not mistaken he is on the list of the most improved player of the year.
Denver Nuggets suddenly became a championship caliber again mostly because their starters are back and healthy.
Murray was feeling it and he is dunking which means the mental problem after healing is gone. That means a lot for players who went through that phase.
Now, I am waiting for Porter Jr. to return from being their sharpshooter, he is not there yet but once that happens they will be one scary team.

I really like that team too.  Gordon was an unbelievable pickup for them and MPJ shows flashes of brilliance.  I think he'll become more consistent over time.  The only thing I think that could hurt Denver's chances at a title in the future is injuries or Jokic getting old and slowing down to the point where he can't compete at the same level he does now.  They have one of the best cores in the league though.  I feel like they're just 1 or 2 pieces away from what they need to go all the way.  They just need to hurry because their window of opportunity has arrived and won't be open more than another year or two I suspect.
I agree extremely. Jokic is amazing and all but I feel like he has not the body of a superstar that will play for long years and can't perform as well when he is over 30 years old. His numbers, both the recent triple doubles and the general amazing statistics, are incredible but I agree that there is a time period for this. Last year, they did best they could without Jamal Murray and was not enough in playoffs. But this year they have more chance if they stay healthy. I also think they need couple of role players who can contribute in the tough time, who they can trust but don't need big numbers or a lot of minutes. Other than that, Aaron Gordon is also doing great these days and the question is, how much they can accomplish in the playoffs. They should really do extra to capture great moments with possible prime Jokic.
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December 26, 2022, 01:24:14 PM
This season, Aaron Gordon is without a doubt improving. He appeared to be a failure earlier in Denver. He shoots the ball only when necessary, which further improved his efficiency. The defense of Denver is not well-known, but with Gordon, they are getting close to achieving a balance between offense and defense.
If I am not mistaken he is on the list of the most improved player of the year.
Denver Nuggets suddenly became a championship caliber again mostly because their starters are back and healthy.
Murray was feeling it and he is dunking which means the mental problem after healing is gone. That means a lot for players who went through that phase.
Now, I am waiting for Porter Jr. to return from being their sharpshooter, he is not there yet but once that happens they will be one scary team.

I really like that team too.  Gordon was an unbelievable pickup for them and MPJ shows flashes of brilliance.  I think he'll become more consistent over time.  The only thing I think that could hurt Denver's chances at a title in the future is injuries or Jokic getting old and slowing down to the point where he can't compete at the same level he does now.  They have one of the best cores in the league though.  I feel like they're just 1 or 2 pieces away from what they need to go all the way.  They just need to hurry because their window of opportunity has arrived and won't be open more than another year or two I suspect.
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December 26, 2022, 12:37:01 PM
The Celtics and the Warriors are the favorites to win the championship this season.

The Celtics hold the top spot in the standings, and their current performance looks much better compared to the last regular season. So the Celtics can really be called the favorites of the championship, and it looks like they have a good chance to reach the finals again.
At the same time, I wouldn't call the Warriors the favorites this season. The Warriors are 11th in the Western Conference right now, and I guess they'll drop even lower in the standings as they've performed pretty mediocrely without Curry.
Curry will come back soon and they will play better, compared to the last season, they are complete now and does have a good big man which can help their weakness in the paint. Last season, the lakers used their great offensive skills to win, so I guess it still boils down to experienced and the coach of the team which the Warriors have the edge.
That's for sure, but Curry has to be healthy in the playoffs, otherwise, they will not really make it to the NBA Finals. Their struggle in the regular season is nothing as long as they will be in the playoffs as that's where they can most comfortable, so good luck to the other teams and they should try to play better not only in the regular season but in the playoffs as well.

Good contenders in the West now IMO are the following teams.

1-Nuggets
2-Dallas
3-LA Clippers

I guess we will find out about that soon in the upcoming playoffs, for now, the Warriors will have to stand their ground while Stephen Curry is still recovering from the injury he sustained. I'm already expecting that the Warriors will start dominating the league again once Curry is back on the line up, he will be much stronger because he rested for a while.

Anyway, I agree with your list. For me, that list is already good enough, so I will just add the Grizzlies and Pelicans.
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