2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 113.

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Quote from: blockman on October 13, 2023, 10:56:54 AM

Quote from: Botnake on October 13, 2023, 06:39:06 AM

Good news is ;

Asian Games basketball gold to stay in PH, POC chief says

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/13/23/asiad-basketball-gold-to-stay-in-ph-poc-chief-says

Yes, that's truly a good news that the gold medal will stay to the Gilas because a lot of rumors said that it will be taken back but no way. And it's nice that they've shown the rules about it that being one positive won't be enough to take away the gold medal.

Quote from: arwin100 on October 13, 2023, 07:44:52 AM

China is butthurt on their lose since on two consecutive times they are been defeated by Philippines and their second defeat is more hard to accept since they are supposed to win but everything change when Brownlee creates a miracle and hit his shots on dying minutes.

I understand their frustrations because they're just truly fans of basketball. The fans and their community is pushing too hard their delegates to do something with their losses and I think that these actions are their redemption to at least what has happened to them. Is there already an explanation for that chemical that Brownlee took for that antidope test that made him positive if it's just for medication?

That's not a good habits when they take back the gold medal from gilas pilipinas as we all know that they try too hard to get that medal. And also china can't move on because the reason of that big come back from the Filipino team that's the reason why they advance to the finals against Jordan . Anyways that's a good thing for gilas that they prove that they can compete to international players.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 13, 2023, 06:39:06 AM

Good news is ;

Asian Games basketball gold to stay in PH, POC chief says

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/13/23/asiad-basketball-gold-to-stay-in-ph-poc-chief-says

Yes, that's truly a good news that the gold medal will stay to the Gilas because a lot of rumors said that it will be taken back but no way. And it's nice that they've shown the rules about it that being one positive won't be enough to take away the gold medal.

Quote from: arwin100 on October 13, 2023, 07:44:52 AM

China is butthurt on their lose since on two consecutive times they are been defeated by Philippines and their second defeat is more hard to accept since they are supposed to win but everything change when Brownlee creates a miracle and hit his shots on dying minutes.

I understand their frustrations because they're just truly fans of basketball. The fans and their community is pushing too hard their delegates to do something with their losses and I think that these actions are their redemption to at least what has happened to them. Is there already an explanation for that chemical that Brownlee took for that antidope test that made him positive if it's just for medication?

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Quote from: Botnake on October 13, 2023, 06:39:06 AM

Good news is ;

Asian Games basketball gold to stay in PH, POC chief says

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/13/23/asiad-basketball-gold-to-stay-in-ph-poc-chief-says

Well, this is some good news – we're holding onto the medal we rightly earned. But, there's a dark cloud hanging over Brownlee. If those test results stand, he might get slapped with a hefty penalty by the powers that be. We might have to wave goodbye to him in international games for a while. Suspensions or bans could be on the horizon.

China's response is a bit puzzling. They're the ultimate champs, but it seems they can't resist throwing shade at us in basketball. They probably poured a ton of cash into their lineup, but couldn't even make it to the Finals. The Philippines broke their hearts.

No country can't take out the gold medal earned by Philippines since its a legit win they do that substance test after they win the championship so they can't do anything with it if they try to snatch that via protest. Now the only problem here is Brownlee's status since if he's been proven to use dope then he will take a long vacation and maybe he will not be in prime once he's ban lifted out. So hopefully everything goes well and on next test he will be tested negative. He's absence is a big problem on their future matches since Brownlee already adopt the system in Philippines.

China is butthurt on their lose since on two consecutive times they are been defeated by Philippines and their second defeat is more hard to accept since they are supposed to win but everything change when Brownlee creates a miracle and hit his shots on dying minutes.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 13, 2023, 06:39:06 AM

Good news is ;

Asian Games basketball gold to stay in PH, POC chief says

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/13/23/asiad-basketball-gold-to-stay-in-ph-poc-chief-says

Well, this is some good news – we're holding onto the medal we rightly earned. But, there's a dark cloud hanging over Brownlee. If those test results stand, he might get slapped with a hefty penalty by the powers that be. We might have to wave goodbye to him in international games for a while. Suspensions or bans could be on the horizon.

China's response is a bit puzzling. They're the ultimate champs, but it seems they can't resist throwing shade at us in basketball. They probably poured a ton of cash into their lineup, but couldn't even make it to the Finals. The Philippines broke their hearts.

I came across a video showing Romeo schooling them in the Asian games. It's clear they have a chip on their shoulder and want to get back at us, not on the court, but by exploiting the rules.

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Good news is ;

Asian Games basketball gold to stay in PH, POC chief says

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/13/23/asiad-basketball-gold-to-stay-in-ph-poc-chief-says

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 12, 2023, 05:03:12 PM

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Quote from: goaldigger on October 12, 2023, 04:09:36 PM

Justin Brownlee failed the Dope test, what does it mean? Are they gonna take the gold medal from us?
It looks like they can’t still move on and still want to pursue this thing. Well, this is a requirement anyway and let’s see what will happen to JB and to the Whole Gilas team, we still have time to contest though and take another sample.

The result can be devastating and the organization can take back the medal and all the rewards, the worst scenario here is Justin Brownlee will be banned for years and that is frustrating for the team Philippines. Let’s hope for the better result of the next sample, let’s hope that this is not final yet. We can’t blame any team from this because it is really mandatory for every athlete.

Hahahah it's mandatory because we win, I don't think they will pursue if the team didn't win the gold. Though we don't have any options as it's a requirement and we needed to follow, we just need to pray and hope that things will favor us, as if the result will not favorable to us then this first ever gold will be taken back.

China is so desperate with that move. One is positive on the Philippine's side and also one was positive on Jordan so who's gonna take the Gold when Jordan can't protest because they also have a player who failed the doping test. Does this mean that China will automatically take the Gold as they are the third placer?

The big question here is why do the did the test after the games and not before the games so they can automatically ban that player who tested positive.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 12, 2023, 05:03:12 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on October 12, 2023, 04:28:38 PM

Quote from: goaldigger on October 12, 2023, 04:09:36 PM

Justin Brownlee failed the Dope test, what does it mean? Are they gonna take the gold medal from us?
It looks like they can’t still move on and still want to pursue this thing. Well, this is a requirement anyway and let’s see what will happen to JB and to the Whole Gilas team, we still have time to contest though and take another sample.

The result can be devastating and the organization can take back the medal and all the rewards, the worst scenario here is Justin Brownlee will be banned for years and that is frustrating for the team Philippines. Let’s hope for the better result of the next sample, let’s hope that this is not final yet. We can’t blame any team from this because it is really mandatory for every athlete.

Hahahah it's mandatory because we win, I don't think they will pursue if the team didn't win the gold. Though we don't have any options as it's a requirement and we needed to follow, we just need to pray and hope that things will favor us, as if the result will not favorable to us then this first ever gold will be taken back.

This is honestly quite disheartening news. It feels like they're trying to pull off a rigged show here. I mean, we worked hard to win the championship, and now they're attempting to take it away from us. They've already left a bitter taste in our mouths with that boxing incident, and now they're trying to do the same in basketball. Suspending a player might be reasonable, but snatching our gold and nullifying the results? That's just unreasonable.

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Quote from: Johnyz on October 12, 2023, 04:28:38 PM

Quote from: goaldigger on October 12, 2023, 04:09:36 PM

Justin Brownlee failed the Dope test, what does it mean? Are they gonna take the gold medal from us?
It looks like they can’t still move on and still want to pursue this thing. Well, this is a requirement anyway and let’s see what will happen to JB and to the Whole Gilas team, we still have time to contest though and take another sample.

The result can be devastating and the organization can take back the medal and all the rewards, the worst scenario here is Justin Brownlee will be banned for years and that is frustrating for the team Philippines. Let’s hope for the better result of the next sample, let’s hope that this is not final yet. We can’t blame any team from this because it is really mandatory for every athlete.

Hahahah it's mandatory because we win, I don't think they will pursue if the team didn't win the gold. Though we don't have any options as it's a requirement and we needed to follow, we just need to pray and hope that things will favor us, as if the result will not favorable to us then this first ever gold will be taken back.

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Quote from: goaldigger on October 12, 2023, 04:09:36 PM

Justin Brownlee failed the Dope test, what does it mean? Are they gonna take the gold medal from us?
It looks like they can’t still move on and still want to pursue this thing. Well, this is a requirement anyway and let’s see what will happen to JB and to the Whole Gilas team, we still have time to contest though and take another sample.

The result can be devastating and the organization can take back the medal and all the rewards, the worst scenario here is Justin Brownlee will be banned for years and that is frustrating for the team Philippines. Let’s hope for the better result of the next sample, let’s hope that this is not final yet. We can’t blame any team from this because it is really mandatory for every athlete.

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Justin Brownlee failed the Dope test, what does it mean? Are they gonna take the gold medal from us?
It looks like they can’t still move on and still want to pursue this thing. Well, this is a requirement anyway and let’s see what will happen to JB and to the Whole Gilas team, we still have time to contest though and take another sample.

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Quote from: Questat on October 11, 2023, 10:27:04 PM

I'm just curious about the rules, is it really a specific PBA team that will have represent or they can't be mix with other teams?

I think they can't mix it because it's a team, as the headline says, they specify that it's TNT, just like when ROS was sent to play during the Jones Cup. The last time we won a championship, I think there was a mix of players from different teams. However, with the good number of international leagues that we are committed to participating in, maybe SBP has just chosen a team since they already know each other well. What happened to ROS was different as they lost with no pride.

If I recall correctly, the last time we participated in EASL, we sent TNT and SMB, and we still lost big time.

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Another update outside the PBA, it's the EASL tournament.

EASL: TNT loses steam in blowout loss to Chiba Jets

I didn't catch this game, but it seems like our struggles in this league continue.

Here's the boxscore of this particular game.

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Chiba (93) - Brown 19, Stephens 19, Kanechica 18, Okura 12, Mutts 9, Nishimura 6, Ogawa 6, Togashi 2, Arao 2, Kaishu 0, Sekiya 0.

TNT (75) - Miller 22, Hollis-Jefferson 15, Khobuntin 15, Castro 12, Montalbo 4, Heruela 4, Reyes 3, Flores 0, Ganuelas-Rosser 0.

Quarterscores: 21-22; 45-44; 71-56; 93-75.

I'm just curious about the rules, is it really a specific PBA team that will have represent or they can't be mix with other teams?

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According to what I've seen from vloggers (I just watched it today), it seems that Kai Sotto and Mikey Williams were the ones who pushed for a substantial salary. Apparently, Sotto's camp requested $400,000 to have him play in the Asian Cup, which does seem like a hefty sum, but it might align with Kai's current market value.

Nevertheless, what's in the past is in the past, and perhaps the SBP might find itself compelled to offer him that amount or even more once he makes his way into the NBA. However, as of now, he's still lagging behind some of the taller players in the NBA, like Wemby and Chet, so it's uncertain if he stands a good chance in the draft.

If we convert that into Philippine Peso, it is more than 20 million Php, though hefty but i think SBP can afford that amount but the thing here is that the players involved prioritize money rather than serving the nation first.

Some people disagree with Al Chua's revelation on the two players asking too much money but I think it is justified in the sense that they lack players and it is not business, it is for the nation so if we are called then accept without doubting, or asking something in return as money will flow into the pocket in due time.

Revealing such information could potentially tarnish the player's reputation. We all know how the public tends to blow things out of proportion. Chua should've handled the situation with more professionalism. After all, they're in the business, and nothing should be expected for free. Maybe Chua was just upset, but it's essential not to cross certain boundaries, just my two cents.

Quote from: bisdak40 on October 11, 2023, 06:48:11 AM

Have also read an article that the other player might face a silent ban as a consequence of his action.

Now I'm really curious about which player they're talking about. Could you provide more specifics? What exactly did the player get banned for, and is it a temporary suspension or a permanent one?

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Quote from: Distinctin on October 11, 2023, 06:23:57 AM

According to what I've seen from vloggers (I just watched it today), it seems that Kai Sotto and Mikey Williams were the ones who pushed for a substantial salary. Apparently, Sotto's camp requested $400,000 to have him play in the Asian Cup, which does seem like a hefty sum, but it might align with Kai's current market value.

Nevertheless, what's in the past is in the past, and perhaps the SBP might find itself compelled to offer him that amount or even more once he makes his way into the NBA. However, as of now, he's still lagging behind some of the taller players in the NBA, like Wemby and Chet, so it's uncertain if he stands a good chance in the draft.

If we convert that into Philippine Peso, it is more than 20 million Php, though hefty but i think SBP can afford that amount but the thing here is that the players involved prioritize money rather than serving the nation first.

Some people disagree with Al Chua's revelation on the two players asking too much money but I think it is justified in the sense that they lack players and it is not business, it is for the nation so if we are called then accept without doubting, or asking something in return as money will flow into the pocket in due time.

Have also read an article that the other player might face a silent ban as a consequence of his action.

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Quote from: Distinctin on October 11, 2023, 06:23:57 AM

According to what I've seen from vloggers (I just watched it today), it seems that Kai Sotto and Mikey Williams were the ones who pushed for a substantial salary. Apparently, Sotto's camp requested $400,000 to have him play in the Asian Cup, which does seem like a hefty sum, but it might align with Kai's current market value.

Nevertheless, what's in the past is in the past, and perhaps the SBP might find itself compelled to offer him that amount or even more once he makes his way into the NBA. However, as of now, he's still lagging behind some of the taller players in the NBA, like Wemby and Chet, so it's uncertain if he stands a good chance in the draft.

I don't think they'll be reaching out to him unless he decides to volunteer, and even then, it'll likely be on the condition of playing fair when it comes to payment. Kai needs to realize that he's not some extraordinary player; all the hype around him doesn't align with his actual performance. Weren't there reports of him being injured? So, it's a bit odd that he suddenly wants to get back into the game. It really does seem like money is the driving force here.

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According to what I've seen from vloggers (I just watched it today), it seems that Kai Sotto and Mikey Williams were the ones who pushed for a substantial salary. Apparently, Sotto's camp requested $400,000 to have him play in the Asian Cup, which does seem like a hefty sum, but it might align with Kai's current market value.

Nevertheless, what's in the past is in the past, and perhaps the SBP might find itself compelled to offer him that amount or even more once he makes his way into the NBA. However, as of now, he's still lagging behind some of the taller players in the NBA, like Wemby and Chet, so it's uncertain if he stands a good chance in the draft.

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Quote from: Shamm on October 10, 2023, 10:06:12 AM

Honestly speaking there's no problems in every player they pick to play in international games such as worldcup cause we all know that our players are skilled enough to compete but the main problem here is that the coaching staff which they they choose those popular players but less on playing out naturalize players. Like for example in the world cup Justin brownlee is the one of those player who paracticing hard to represent our country but in the end Justin was replaced by Jordan Clarkson which is not good for me. And yes we can't deny the fact that Jordan Clarkson is very good in basketball but the chemistry of other players is a must. But it's already happened all we need is to move on and celebrate our victory.

Chemistry didn't materialize since the coaching staff rely with individuality of each star that represent us during the world cup, I mean, unlike with Asian game where CTC work with rotations and trust even the time frame for preparation is too short, I like the way you pointed it out since JBL really help even he understand that his chance to play is slim since JC is the first priority, but he did not bother but instead continue to practice and help the national squad.

If by chance, CTC handles the squad who played during world cup, though he's part of the assistant but the final call still with super coach Chot, who relies the most on JC's individual capability. And the thing on it, most of the players who are playing alongside with JC just watch him take matter on his shoulders, aside from Ramos who show up and did try to help JC.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 10, 2023, 06:17:14 AM

Meanwhile per PBA.ph in less than three days we will have a game so the opening might be on Friday.

Was that the season's kickoff, perhaps during the preseason? I recently read some news about Brownlee departing for the USA on vacation, with plans to return once the PBA resumes. This has left me a bit confused about whether that day truly signifies the official beginning of the new season.

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Quote from: ultrloa on October 10, 2023, 02:42:43 AM

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Many fans think that its Mike Williams and Maverick Ahanmisi I don't know if I spelled his name right but this is flooded on Podcast of Pow sports. If that's the case then its not good since they are not actually committed for their country but rather they are there trying to earn a lot of money from the team. They shouldn't ask that since they don't prove anything yet on the league.

But they should move on to that discussion since that already happen, they already won the gold medal on last Asian games so its time for them to celebrate and ignore those negative interference that can spoil the fun. They just focus on players that can provide their service without asking more further conditions and forget about those people who ask to much from them.

These two have a track record of demanding hefty salaries from their teams, so it wouldn't be shocking if it turned out to be them. However, it's not essential anymore. We've managed to assemble a solid team, and even with limited preparation, we still clinched the gold medal.

Speaking of pay and salaries, I heard that SBP paid Jordan Clarkson $1 million for his participation in the FIBA World Cup.

Fans pointed them out since they are very demanding regarding on salaries. But maybe Chua should forget about that discussion and movement they prove already that there are guys who's willing to play for the love of country. Then they show good results since they executed their plays very well so they should focus on this guys since they can possibly bring them more championship if they can develop their chemistry together. Talking about other things can just spoil the fun so better they celebrate their championship without taking care of other nonsense thing.

Not surprising if SBP pays Clarkson that amount since he's NBA star and he deserves that. Its just he is been mismanaged by coach and result didn't end up very well to them. If Gilas on world cup is just been handled by Tim Cone maybe we can see a different result and they maybe got a high to placed on more higher standings.

Honestly speaking there's no problems in every player they pick to play in international games such as worldcup cause we all know that our players are skilled enough to compete but the main problem here is that the coaching staff which they they choose those popular players but less on playing out naturalize players. Like for example in the world cup Justin brownlee is the one of those player who paracticing hard to represent our country but in the end Justin was replaced by Jordan Clarkson which is not good for me. And yes we can't deny the fact that Jordan Clarkson is very good in basketball but the chemistry of other players is a must. But it's already happened all we need is to move on and celebrate our victory.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 10, 2023, 06:17:14 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on October 09, 2023, 08:25:34 AM

Many fans think that its Mike Williams and Maverick Ahanmisi I don't know if I spelled his name right but this is flooded on Podcast of Pow sports. If that's the case then its not good since they are not actually committed for their country but rather they are there trying to earn a lot of money from the team. They shouldn't ask that since they don't prove anything yet on the league.

But they should move on to that discussion since that already happen, they already won the gold medal on last Asian games so its time for them to celebrate and ignore those negative interference that can spoil the fun. They just focus on players that can provide their service without asking more further conditions and forget about those people who ask to much from them.

I also think that one of the two players is Mikey Williams as we all know that this player is pricey, his entry to TNT Katropa was not an easy one due to money issue as he think he deserves more than that of a rookie cap in the PBA. I don't know about Ahamnisi because he has not proven anything yet he ask for large amount of money just to play for Gilas, that is unjustifiable.

Meanwhile per PBA.ph in less than three days we will have a game so the opening might be on Friday.

I think Mikey might be the one but with Ahanmisi might not be possible as he just signed with Ginebra and for me that bond between him and SMC managements will not be compromised if he's one of those two, Al Francis is very smart and he will not allow that propaganda for his own men, just saying'.

Whoever it is, maybe it's just part of the plan where the destiny brings home the gold, and whoever they are they just missed their names in the history of the first ever gold.

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