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Quote from: Viscore on July 23, 2023, 06:51:37 AM

The game has already started, and it seems like Phoenix is keeping up. They are leading by 3 points now due to their big run in the 2nd quarter. If this trend continues, it's highly likely that they will not only cover the spread but could also upset the heavy favorites, Magnolia. Maybe this is the night where we will witness the end of Magnolia Hotshots' winning streak, and I'd say bettors who took the risk on the ML are very lucky.

Unfortunately, still not this time as Mags continue the domination, that second half run brings them the lead that covers the handicap, lucky for those who manage to pick them up during a live game for sure there are good changes while the game is ongoing, there're some instances that Phoenix manage to take the lead but then again Mags showcase their talents and not to allow any possibility that Phoenix will going to disappoint them.

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The game has already started, and it seems like Phoenix is keeping up. They are leading by 3 points now due to their big run in the 2nd quarter. If this trend continues, it's highly likely that they will not only cover the spread but could also upset the heavy favorites, Magnolia. Maybe this is the night where we will witness the end of Magnolia Hotshots' winning streak, and I'd say bettors who took the risk on the ML are very lucky.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 22, 2023, 04:24:24 PM

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Back-to-back wins Kabayan! Nice upset from both under dogs, NLEX wins against Converge no need for a handicap and then Gin kings ML is really sweet as they beat the unknown reason to be a favorite after that win against Phoenix, but today they didn't possess that aggressiveness to win against the Gin kings.

Another addition to cover those losing streak Kabayan bisdak! Congrats!

Thanks kabayan but the battle is far from finished hehe. This time around, it was the Ginebra Kings that got huge help from their 3on3 players with Cu contributing 8 points but the interesting thing on the game last night is that it was only Khobuntin who scored double digit for the Katropa with 25 points, all his teammates only manage to score single digit.

Odds for Magnolia vs Phoenix is already out and the spread is too wide as far as I'm concerned, is this another gimme?

Though I think this is a clear win for the Hotshots but i don't think they can cover the spread this time around.

Yes, Kabayan! lucky for you that only Khobuntin had a better game and the rest are just playing, I mean a usual routine of TNT just go and play the game and it's good if you lose then move forward nothing else, kidding aside, Gin kings gives them a solid performances and really aiming for that win so it's good for the loyal fans who continue to bet for them and not being shake when TNT manage to win against Phoenix.

This upcoming game is something that needed to analyze deeper, handicap is really huge and for me, it's up to you Kabayan! Bahala ka na! hahaha.. Good Luck!

I would rather go under on the total than risk on the spread. Magnolia is capable of winning by a big margin as that's what they usually do, but my worry is, what if they slow down tonight and let Phoenix win the game? It's 50/50 for me, so I would not risk on something I'm not confident about.

My bet would be under 191.50.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 22, 2023, 07:05:43 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on July 21, 2023, 09:02:14 AM

Back-to-back wins Kabayan! Nice upset from both under dogs, NLEX wins against Converge no need for a handicap and then Gin kings ML is really sweet as they beat the unknown reason to be a favorite after that win against Phoenix, but today they didn't possess that aggressiveness to win against the Gin kings.

Another addition to cover those losing streak Kabayan bisdak! Congrats!

Thanks kabayan but the battle is far from finished hehe. This time around, it was the Ginebra Kings that got huge help from their 3on3 players with Cu contributing 8 points but the interesting thing on the game last night is that it was only Khobuntin who scored double digit for the Katropa with 25 points, all his teammates only manage to score single digit.

Odds for Magnolia vs Phoenix is already out and the spread is too wide as far as I'm concerned, is this another gimme?

Though I think this is a clear win for the Hotshots but i don't think they can cover the spread this time around.

Yes, Kabayan! lucky for you that only Khobuntin had a better game and the rest are just playing, I mean a usual routine of TNT just go and play the game and it's good if you lose then move forward nothing else, kidding aside, Gin kings gives them a solid performances and really aiming for that win so it's good for the loyal fans who continue to bet for them and not being shake when TNT manage to win against Phoenix.

This upcoming game is something that needed to analyze deeper, handicap is really huge and for me, it's up to you Kabayan! Bahala ka na! hahaha.. Good Luck!

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 22, 2023, 07:05:43 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on July 21, 2023, 09:02:14 AM

Back-to-back wins Kabayan! Nice upset from both under dogs, NLEX wins against Converge no need for a handicap and then Gin kings ML is really sweet as they beat the unknown reason to be a favorite after that win against Phoenix, but today they didn't possess that aggressiveness to win against the Gin kings.

Another addition to cover those losing streak Kabayan bisdak! Congrats!

Thanks kabayan but the battle is far from finished hehe. This time around, it was the Ginebra Kings that got huge help from their 3on3 players with Cu contributing 8 points but the interesting thing on the game last night is that it was only Khobuntin who scored double digit for the Katropa with 25 points, all his teammates only manage to score single digit.

Odds for Magnolia vs Phoenix is already out and the spread is too wide as far as I'm concerned, is this another gimme?

Though I think this is a clear win for the Hotshots but i don't think they can cover the spread this time around.

Don't know yet what's the reason why TNT play like that, why they only manage 1 win out of 9 matches which us pretty bad start for this season. And I have a doubt that they can not enter into the quarter finals if their play still the same. And about for tomorrow's game which is Magnolia vs Phoenix for sure Magnolia can dominate Phoenix in this game as we all know how Magnolia plays in this season.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 21, 2023, 09:02:14 AM

Back-to-back wins Kabayan! Nice upset from both under dogs, NLEX wins against Converge no need for a handicap and then Gin kings ML is really sweet as they beat the unknown reason to be a favorite after that win against Phoenix, but today they didn't possess that aggressiveness to win against the Gin kings.

Another addition to cover those losing streak Kabayan bisdak! Congrats!

Thanks kabayan but the battle is far from finished hehe. This time around, it was the Ginebra Kings that got huge help from their 3on3 players with Cu contributing 8 points but the interesting thing on the game last night is that it was only Khobuntin who scored double digit for the Katropa with 25 points, all his teammates only manage to score single digit.

Odds for Magnolia vs Phoenix is already out and the spread is too wide as far as I'm concerned, is this another gimme?

Though I think this is a clear win for the Hotshots but i don't think they can cover the spread this time around.

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 21, 2023, 09:07:54 AM

Anyway, there's still a long way to go, plenty of games to come, and tomorrow is a rest day. Betting will resume on Sunday, where Hotshots will play again. I'm wondering what the spread will be against the Phoenix.

Money on the line on Sunday and looking forward also to the spread for Blackwater and Rain or shine. I've looked at stake and there's no spread yet. Maybe tomorrow we'll see.

I'm sure ROS is going to be the favorite in that game. However, since Blackwater has been surprisingly good recently, it might be worth considering risking on the moneyline if the odds are attractive. But, if you prefer a safer option, betting on the handicap would be advisable. It's the first game of the day, followed by the Magnolia Hotshots vs Phoenix Super LPG.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 21, 2023, 09:02:14 AM

NLEX wins against Converge no need for a handicap and then Gin kings ML is really sweet as they beat the unknown reason to be a favorite after that win against Phoenix, but today they didn't possess that aggressiveness to win against the Gin kings.

Was too late to watch this game and it's already too late for Converge to make even a comeback. Yeah, NLEX has won, and congrats to all of those bettors.

Quote from: Distinctin on July 21, 2023, 09:07:54 AM

Anyway, there's still a long way to go, plenty of games to come, and tomorrow is a rest day. Betting will resume on Sunday, where Hotshots will play again. I'm wondering what the spread will be against the Phoenix.

Money on the line on Sunday and looking forward also to the spread for Blackwater and Rain or shine. I've looked at stake and there's no spread yet. Maybe tomorrow we'll see.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 21, 2023, 09:02:14 AM

Another addition to cover those losing streak Kabayan bisdak! Congrats!

That's just normal in gambling; sometimes, a losing streak happens, and sometimes, a winning streak happens. What's important is that he still continues to gamble, and he might make more money if he had put a parlay on both the underdogs' moneyline. Well, I wish we knew the outcome, LOL.

Anyway, there's still a long way to go, plenty of games to come, and tomorrow is a rest day. Betting will resume on Sunday, where Hotshots will play again. I'm wondering what the spread will be against the Phoenix.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 21, 2023, 12:09:54 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on July 20, 2023, 08:38:56 AM

It turns out the odds were quite a trap. TNT managed to win the game, and that ended their losing streak. Luckily, I was not able to bet on that particular game as I would never put my money on TNT moneyline since they have been struggling. I believe many bettors had fallen into that trap.

I'm one of those.

Speaking of TNT, they are scheduled to play tonight against Ginebra where they are the slight favorite to win. I think Ginebra has the chance to upset TNT today, they only have to guard and limit the offensive output of Khobuntin, TNT's leading scorer in this mini-tourney.

NLEX +6.5 @1.80 vs Converge
Ginebra ML @2.58 vs TNT

My bet, hope will win and be on the winning track once again.

Back-to-back wins Kabayan! Nice upset from both under dogs, NLEX wins against Converge no need for a handicap and then Gin kings ML is really sweet as they beat the unknown reason to be a favorite after that win against Phoenix, but today they didn't possess that aggressiveness to win against the Gin kings.

Another addition to cover those losing streak Kabayan bisdak! Congrats!

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It turns out the odds were quite a trap. TNT managed to win the game, and that ended their losing streak. Luckily, I was not able to bet on that particular game as I would never put my money on TNT moneyline since they have been struggling. I believe many bettors had fallen into that trap.

I'm one of those.

Speaking of TNT, they are scheduled to play tonight against Ginebra where they are the slight favorite to win. I think Ginebra has the chance to upset TNT today, they only have to guard and limit the offensive output of Khobuntin, TNT's leading scorer in this mini-tourney.

NLEX +6.5 @1.80 vs Converge
Ginebra ML @2.58 vs TNT

My bet, hope will win and be on the winning track once again.

Congratulations on the first game win! You don't actually need a "+," as NLEX has won the game. Currently, it's the battle of Ginebra vs TNT, and Ginebra is leading the game. So, I would say this might be your night, mate. Good luck and enjoy watching the game!

Make it a perfect night for bisdak. There are only less than 2 minutes left in the game, and Ginebra is leading by 12 points, so this is surely a win for him. Also I would like to say congratulations to Bisdak. I'm sure you'll have a good night's sleep now. Hehe.

Mind if you share your total bankroll balance now?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 21, 2023, 12:09:54 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on July 20, 2023, 08:38:56 AM

It turns out the odds were quite a trap. TNT managed to win the game, and that ended their losing streak. Luckily, I was not able to bet on that particular game as I would never put my money on TNT moneyline since they have been struggling. I believe many bettors had fallen into that trap.

I'm one of those.

Speaking of TNT, they are scheduled to play tonight against Ginebra where they are the slight favorite to win. I think Ginebra has the chance to upset TNT today, they only have to guard and limit the offensive output of Khobuntin, TNT's leading scorer in this mini-tourney.

NLEX +6.5 @1.80 vs Converge
Ginebra ML @2.58 vs TNT

My bet, hope will win and be on the winning track once again.

Congratulations on the first game win! You don't actually need a "+," as NLEX has won the game. Currently, it's the battle of Ginebra vs TNT, and Ginebra is leading the game. So, I would say this might be your night, mate. Good luck and enjoy watching the game!

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Quote from: Yamifoud on July 20, 2023, 08:38:56 AM

It turns out the odds were quite a trap. TNT managed to win the game, and that ended their losing streak. Luckily, I was not able to bet on that particular game as I would never put my money on TNT moneyline since they have been struggling. I believe many bettors had fallen into that trap.

I'm one of those.

Speaking of TNT, they are scheduled to play tonight against Ginebra where they are the slight favorite to win. I think Ginebra has the chance to upset TNT today, they only have to guard and limit the offensive output of Khobuntin, TNT's leading scorer in this mini-tourney.

NLEX +6.5 @1.80 vs Converge
Ginebra ML @2.58 vs TNT

My bet, hope will win and be on the winning track once again.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on July 20, 2023, 08:38:56 AM

It turns out the odds were quite a trap. TNT managed to win the game, and that ended their losing streak. Luckily, I was not able to bet on that particular game as I would never put my money on TNT moneyline since they have been struggling. I believe many bettors had fallen into that trap.

Sometimes we have to be careful, but you can't tell it's a trap since TNT is really struggling. Maybe their desperation to win gave them the inspiration they needed. Now, they are still at the bottom of the standings, but at least they have one win out of seven games. Anyway, tomorrow we have two games. TNT is going to play again, but I doubt they'll be able to beat the crowd favorite.

Here's the schedule:

Converge vs. NLEX
TNT vs. Ginebra

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It turns out the odds were quite a trap. TNT managed to win the game, and that ended their losing streak. Luckily, I was not able to bet on that particular game as I would never put my money on TNT moneyline since they have been struggling. I believe many bettors had fallen into that trap.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 19, 2023, 05:39:54 AM

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No odds yet for the two game but i think on the second game it would still be TNT as the underdog, by what margin, that's the question and if it would be the same as last time that the spread reached 20+ points, i would be for TNT.

I think the spread is still high considering their loss in the last game. They have experienced several blowout defeats, which may make them desperate to win. However, they will likely make efforts to secure a victory, particularly since they came close last time. There is a possibility that they will play harder and strive to win the game, so even if they fail, there is a chance that the spread will be covered once again.

We will find out today. I just checked the betting odds, and it appears that they are not yet available, possibly because it is still early considering the game is scheduled for 7:30 PM this evening. However, based on Phoenix being the better team and their likelihood of bouncing back from their previous loss, I believe Phoenix will win this game. Regarding the handicap spread, if it's 10+ points, I still think it's worth considering to bet on TNT.

I still didn't find the odds on our local bookies, maybe they are not interested on covering this game as TNT is so unpredictable. They put the odds usually 24 hours before the game so the likelihood of this not being covered by the bookies is high.

NorthPort ML @2.24 vs Rain Or Shine

^^ My bet since NorthPort is capable of beating the also unpredicatable Rain Or Shine.

edit: as of this writing, our local bookies is already putting the odds for the TNT vs Phoenix odds which is an interesting one.

Phoenix ML 1.61
TNT Tropang Giga 2.19

Will put some money on the Phoenix ML in a while.

Don't know what was happening but things have turned around 180 degrees and now TNT is the favorite to win against Phoenix, is this a trap?

I have not seen any news that a key player of TNT would play in this game so i would assumed that this is only the bookies speculation that TNT would win this game and i'm hoping that they are wrong hehe.

Wow, and even during this live game Phoenix still have a decent ML @3.x now and handicap is 1.8x seems that TNT earning the favorite here, not sure why but knowing you, taking the risk is very possible just got empty with my coins I would like to take that ML while viewing the available odds. Oh well, Good Luck kabayan!

Too early to conclude, but for those who are still having time and money to bet, you can check the available odds just passing the last 2mins of the first quarter!

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 18, 2023, 09:13:15 PM

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No odds yet for the two game but i think on the second game it would still be TNT as the underdog, by what margin, that's the question and if it would be the same as last time that the spread reached 20+ points, i would be for TNT.

I think the spread is still high considering their loss in the last game. They have experienced several blowout defeats, which may make them desperate to win. However, they will likely make efforts to secure a victory, particularly since they came close last time. There is a possibility that they will play harder and strive to win the game, so even if they fail, there is a chance that the spread will be covered once again.

We will find out today. I just checked the betting odds, and it appears that they are not yet available, possibly because it is still early considering the game is scheduled for 7:30 PM this evening. However, based on Phoenix being the better team and their likelihood of bouncing back from their previous loss, I believe Phoenix will win this game. Regarding the handicap spread, if it's 10+ points, I still think it's worth considering to bet on TNT.

I still didn't find the odds on our local bookies, maybe they are not interested on covering this game as TNT is so unpredictable. They put the odds usually 24 hours before the game so the likelihood of this not being covered by the bookies is high.

NorthPort ML @2.24 vs Rain Or Shine

^^ My bet since NorthPort is capable of beating the also unpredicatable Rain Or Shine.

edit: as of this writing, our local bookies is already putting the odds for the TNT vs Phoenix odds which is an interesting one.

Phoenix ML 1.61
TNT Tropang Giga 2.19

Will put some money on the Phoenix ML in a while.

Don't know what was happening but things have turned around 180 degrees and now TNT is the favorite to win against Phoenix, is this a trap?

I have not seen any news that a key player of TNT would play in this game so i would assumed that this is only the bookies speculation that TNT would win this game and i'm hoping that they are wrong hehe.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 18, 2023, 09:13:15 PM

I still didn't find the odds on our local bookies, maybe they are not interested on covering this game as TNT is so unpredictable. They put the odds usually 24 hours before the game so the likelihood of this not being covered by the bookies is high.

NorthPort ML @2.24 vs Rain Or Shine

^^ My bet since NorthPort is capable of beating the also unpredicatable Rain Or Shine.

The odds of 2.24 are indeed quite attractive, especially considering Northport's current win streak of two games. Meanwhile, ROS suffered a loss in their previous game. Based on this, it seems like a 50/50 chance for both teams, making the odds of 2.24 advantageous. I'm also thinking of betting on live game, maybe that would increase to 3.00, more attractive to me.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 18, 2023, 08:06:06 AM

I think the spread is still high considering their loss in the last game. They have experienced several blowout defeats, which may make them desperate to win. However, they will likely make efforts to secure a victory, particularly since they came close last time. There is a possibility that they will play harder and strive to win the game, so even if they fail, there is a chance that the spread will be covered once again.

Spread is usually what happens in the space, when one's experiencing poor results outcomes. Defeats will only reduce the odds placed on them already, and gamblers will easily lose interests when they keep getting the same Losing record and statistics getting more poorer. Losing is not an option and if it comes, there's always implementation of new game strategy. Losing streak will make things rough and disappointing results will demotivates the players, so I would urged them to rather continue to push harder no matter the game results, its not an easy path down there.

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Quote from: Questat on July 18, 2023, 08:39:43 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 18, 2023, 08:06:06 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on July 18, 2023, 03:22:52 AM

No odds yet for the two game but i think on the second game it would still be TNT as the underdog, by what margin, that's the question and if it would be the same as last time that the spread reached 20+ points, i would be for TNT.

I think the spread is still high considering their loss in the last game. They have experienced several blowout defeats, which may make them desperate to win. However, they will likely make efforts to secure a victory, particularly since they came close last time. There is a possibility that they will play harder and strive to win the game, so even if they fail, there is a chance that the spread will be covered once again.

We will find out today. I just checked the betting odds, and it appears that they are not yet available, possibly because it is still early considering the game is scheduled for 7:30 PM this evening. However, based on Phoenix being the better team and their likelihood of bouncing back from their previous loss, I believe Phoenix will win this game. Regarding the handicap spread, if it's 10+ points, I still think it's worth considering to bet on TNT.

I still didn't find the odds on our local bookies, maybe they are not interested on covering this game as TNT is so unpredictable. They put the odds usually 24 hours before the game so the likelihood of this not being covered by the bookies is high.

NorthPort ML @2.24 vs Rain Or Shine

^^ My bet since NorthPort is capable of beating the also unpredicatable Rain Or Shine.

edit: as of this writing, our local bookies is already putting the odds for the TNT vs Phoenix odds which is an interesting one.

Phoenix ML 1.61
TNT Tropang Giga 2.19

Will put some money on the Phoenix ML in a while.

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