2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 357.

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Quote from: Japinat on March 24, 2022, 08:37:38 AM

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 24, 2022, 08:02:37 AM

Betting odds for tomorrow's game is now out in the market.

Ginebra -4.5
Magnolia -3.5...

I'm just wondering why Magnolia is only -3.5 after a dominant performance in the first game.
Are we going to see a trap here?

It seems that ginebra is getting the crowd here and also ginebra is the favorite team ever in the history of Philippine basketball association. Even though That magnolia has a dominant performance still that ginebra has a bigger amount of bets than magnolia. I think it also that we will see a trap here, as for now all we need is to observe.

As always, we should not be surprised with that, and actually, even if Ginebra will lose tomorrow, I'm pretty sure they will still remain as the favorite to win in game 3. The good thing with Ginebra si that most of the time they have a solid 4th quarter, so one technique I'm using is I bet on them when they are down to get a very attractive odds, what I'm saying is live betting.

Yes you are right that mate ginebra is is a king and they will put all their best in the final quarter that's what's many people or a crowd choose them than others. As we can saw in their last fights they will choose to behind the last 3rd quarter of the game but in the end 4th quarter is in them and they will comeback the lead and claim the victory. So there's no reason why the betting odds are lower than their opponent, and also it's better to bet during live time in order to know what who are have the potential team to win.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 24, 2022, 08:02:37 AM

Betting odds for tomorrow's game is now out in the market.

Ginebra -4.5
Magnolia -3.5...

I'm just wondering why Magnolia is only -3.5 after a dominant performance in the first game.
Are we going to see a trap here?

With Japeth down, i think a 4.5 HC is just too high for Ginebra and they might not cover this one or they might lose the game so for bettors just be careful as Ginebra is too unpredictable in the elimination, they might relax this game two so with that I'll go with live betting.

For Magnolia, I'll go with their opponent as I see this as a see-saw battle. Bishop is a good import, they can't be swept.

That's right, if we would like to bet against Ginebra, this is the best chance because it's the first game this series they'll miss Japeth so adjustment has to be made. Not only that 4.5 is high to cover, Ginebra could possibly loss this game if they cannot replace a good defender inside.

We still have Caperal and the other Aguilar, and also don't forget C. Stand, he is also a good defender, so it's just like no one is down for Ginebra. However, it's different when Japeth is playing, but let's see how this goes, still for Ginebra winning the game though.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 24, 2022, 04:52:53 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on March 24, 2022, 08:02:37 AM

Betting odds for tomorrow's game is now out in the market.

Ginebra -4.5
Magnolia -3.5...

I'm just wondering why Magnolia is only -3.5 after a dominant performance in the first game.
Are we going to see a trap here?

With Japeth down, i think a 4.5 HC is just too high for Ginebra and they might not cover this one or they might lose the game so for bettors just be careful as Ginebra is too unpredictable in the elimination, they might relax this game two so with that I'll go with live betting.

For Magnolia, I'll go with their opponent as I see this as a see-saw battle. Bishop is a good import, they can't be swept.

That's right, if we would like to bet against Ginebra, this is the best chance because it's the first game this series they'll miss Japeth so adjustment has to be made. Not only that 4.5 is high to cover, Ginebra could possibly loss this game if they cannot replace a good defender inside.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 24, 2022, 08:02:37 AM

Betting odds for tomorrow's game is now out in the market.

Ginebra -4.5
Magnolia -3.5...

I'm just wondering why Magnolia is only -3.5 after a dominant performance in the first game.
Are we going to see a trap here?

With Japeth down, i think a 4.5 HC is just too high for Ginebra and they might not cover this one or they might lose the game so for bettors just be careful as Ginebra is too unpredictable in the elimination, they might relax this game two so with that I'll go with live betting.

For Magnolia, I'll go with their opponent as I see this as a see-saw battle. Bishop is a good import, they can't be swept.

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Looks like this is a bad news for Ginebra.

Japeth Aguilar's calf injury a dampener for Ginebra's Game One win

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BARANGAY Ginebra's Game 1 win over NLEX cost the Gin Kings one key player as big man Japeth Aguilar went down with a calf injury.

Coach Tim Cone confirmed the 6-foot-9 Aguilar went down with the injury at the end of the Kings' 95-86 victory over the Road Warriors to open their PBA Governors Cup semifinals series at the MOA Arena.

"It put a damper on our win," said Cone.

This is a big loss for the team, and with that said, NLEX has a good chance of winning game 2, as well as the series.

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Prior to Converge getting the Alaska rights, is there a list shown to the public who offers to buy the franchise?

I don't think that there's a list of that which they'll show to the public. But just another news related to the Converge/Alaska franchise. They're going to retain Cariaso as the head coach and they're now in talks with the players.
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/converge-to-assess-alaska-players-coaches-performance-for-team-consideration-a793-20220323)

As per the news, There’s 3 companies interested to buy the franchise of Alaska Aces which the owner didn’t name them due to privacy. But considering Converge successfully purchased it from them, We can assume that the other 2 companies is the well known giant company SMC and MVP since they are always looking for to expand there influence in the PBA league, Good thing the owner decided to sell it to a new company or else PBA will be more boring to watch especially when the underdog team face a giant company team like Ginebra.

There is the chance that they're SMC and MVP companies again. Well, they're always trying to take over anything and have a farm team so that their other team would be one of the greatest.
And there's the picture that I've seen that Kume isn't smiling and probably it's due to it. It's just a meme and a quick take of picture but I like it that it went to Converge.

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Quote from: Beparanf on March 24, 2022, 07:26:45 AM

Back on the topic, Magnolia vs Ginebra is surely in the finals!

If there's no drama that may happen, these two are the favorite to meet in the finals. We have seen them playing in game 1

and they both win the game. If there's no answer from MVP's franchise, the chance is high for both Gin king and Magnolia to be in the finals.

No sisterhood and just pure finals. This might be really interesting. Both teams have the caliber to bring down their opponents, team effort

and good ball rotations. It's an interesting match and for sure fans will love to watch.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 24, 2022, 08:02:37 AM

Betting odds for tomorrow's game is now out in the market.

Ginebra -4.5
Magnolia -3.5...

I'm just wondering why Magnolia is only -3.5 after a dominant performance in the first game.
Are we going to see a trap here?

Not sure why it's just -3.5, there's no reported injury or any update if there's a key player that will not play tomorrow, this is a good chance for Magnolia fans if this odd will be taken as early as now and magnolia will continue their solid performance. It can be a double digit lead and they will still win the game.

Take both, or wait and observe when the game starts. Sometimes you may get much better odd during the second half.

both Magnolia and Ginebra love to chase in the last quarter and you may see them underdog during the early quarters, you may get much decent for your bets.

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There is a chance that it will only happen if:
1. There will be a team that will sell their franchise and they will be the ones who will win the bid.
2. The PBA will make an expansion and adding more teams.

I think these 2 factors you have mentioned are not possible since Chooks To Go already running a league. Only companies that don't have an affiliation to any leagues in the country are allowed to bid for a franchise or apply as an expansion team.

I'm sure if there's an attempt of Chooks To Go to buy a team in the PBA, it will not be approved by the PBA Board of Governors.

Quote from: Shamm on March 24, 2022, 08:26:42 AM

Even though That magnolia has a dominant performance still that ginebra has a bigger amount of bets than magnolia. I think it also that we will see a trap here, as for now all we need is to observe.

I'm confused. What kind of trap?

The real trap is if Magnolia will be provided with a much better handicap since everyone will take the bait for it as they dominated Game 1. That's how I looked at it as a bettor for a long.

Look, it's just -3.5. I don't know how it became a trap.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 24, 2022, 08:26:42 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on March 24, 2022, 08:02:37 AM

Betting odds for tomorrow's game is now out in the market.

Ginebra -4.5
Magnolia -3.5...

I'm just wondering why Magnolia is only -3.5 after a dominant performance in the first game.
Are we going to see a trap here?

It seems that ginebra is getting the crowd here and also ginebra is the favorite team ever in the history of Philippine basketball association. Even though That magnolia has a dominant performance still that ginebra has a bigger amount of bets than magnolia. I think it also that we will see a trap here, as for now all we need is to observe.

As always, we should not be surprised with that, and actually, even if Ginebra will lose tomorrow, I'm pretty sure they will still remain as the favorite to win in game 3. The good thing with Ginebra si that most of the time they have a solid 4th quarter, so one technique I'm using is I bet on them when they are down to get a very attractive odds, what I'm saying is live betting.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 24, 2022, 08:02:37 AM

Betting odds for tomorrow's game is now out in the market.

Ginebra -4.5
Magnolia -3.5...

I'm just wondering why Magnolia is only -3.5 after a dominant performance in the first game.
Are we going to see a trap here?

It seems that ginebra is getting the crowd here and also ginebra is the favorite team ever in the history of Philippine basketball association. Even though That magnolia has a dominant performance still that ginebra has a bigger amount of bets than magnolia. I think it also that we will see a trap here, as for now all we need is to observe.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 24, 2022, 08:02:37 AM

Betting odds for tomorrow's game is now out in the market.

Ginebra -4.5
Magnolia -3.5...

I'm just wondering why Magnolia is only -3.5 after a dominant performance in the first game.
Are we going to see a trap here?

Going with the flow, I have a feeling that I will see the same winner as in the game 1. However, I would pay more attention on the points as I think both teams will play tougher defense and that would mean the game will go under.

Ginebra vs NLEX - under 203.5
Hotshots vs Meralco, under 193.5

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Betting odds for tomorrow's game is now out in the market.

Ginebra -4.5
Magnolia -3.5...

I'm just wondering why Magnolia is only -3.5 after a dominant performance in the first game.
Are we going to see a trap here?

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 23, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

Prior to Converge getting the Alaska rights, is there a list shown to the public who offers to buy the franchise?

I don't think that there's a list of that which they'll show to the public. But just another news related to the Converge/Alaska franchise. They're going to retain Cariaso as the head coach and they're now in talks with the players.
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/converge-to-assess-alaska-players-coaches-performance-for-team-consideration-a793-20220323)

As per the news, There’s 3 companies interested to buy the franchise of Alaska Aces which the owner didn’t name them due to privacy. But considering Converge successfully purchased it from them, We can assume that the other 2 companies is the well known giant company SMC and MVP since they are always looking for to expand there influence in the PBA league, Good thing the owner decided to sell it to a new company or else PBA will be more boring to watch especially when the underdog team face a giant company team like Ginebra.

Back on the topic, Magnolia vs Ginebra is surely in the finals!

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 23, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

Prior to Converge getting the Alaska rights, is there a list shown to the public who offers to buy the franchise?

I don't think that there's a list of that which they'll show to the public. But just another news related to the Converge/Alaska franchise. They're going to retain Cariaso as the head coach and they're now in talks with the players.
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/converge-to-assess-alaska-players-coaches-performance-for-team-consideration-a793-20220323)

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Quote from: Maslate on March 22, 2022, 11:02:54 PM

Two ISP in the PBA, it's a good competition for this two. So when Globe will have their team too? lol..

I'm not sure if there's any other ISP in the PBA as another franchise, the one that's just recently confirmed is the Converge.
Probably no way of Globe getting in, the other one that's likely to wait for a slot is PLDT. But I don't think these two huge telcos really need to get into the league and have their franchise. As of the moment, it's only Converge as the ISP in the league.

Maybe he meant that Pangilinan owns PLDT, who is also the owner of TNT / Smart. Converge is the new owner after buying Alaska not sure if there's no relationship between Pangilinan and the owner of Converge Roll Eyes

it would be nice if the one who bought the franchise is Ditto or Choks that would be a real threat.

Choks can compete offering a decent amount of contract and additional perks, maybe the reason why Magnolia switches from using the hotdogs to their chicken business, they don't want the same line of business to compete with wide exposure like the PBA. Cool

Yeah possible and it wasn't just explained clearly. As for the Chooks to go, they're mostly advertising only with PBA ads but I'm sure that there's also been an attempt to get a franchise.
But, they weren't granted as there's some conflict with the current franchises that they have and there's the competition so the PBA committee granted Converge instead.

Chooks-To-Go won't make it to the PBA as they already have a stand-alone campaign which will make things just complicated.

But we can't clearly rule out the possibility in the future.

Chooks-To-Go products are also the same as Magnolia which is owned by SMC and we know how influential and powerful SMC is to the league and one of the core companies while PBA is still standing.

Prior to Converge getting the Alaska rights, is there a list shown to the public who offers to buy the franchise?

There is a chance that it will only happen if:
1. There will be a team that will sell their franchise and they will be the ones who will win the bid.
2. The PBA will make an expansion and adding more teams.

With these 2, I think the first one is more reasonable to happen because I don't think that the PBA will expand and add more teams at least for now and in the next 2-3 years maybe. Another question that comes to our mind is that if Chooks-To-Go is owned by SMC then they will have 4 teams already and MVP only has 3. Is that mean that MVP will add another team for himself incase they will join. Another question is that if Chooks-To-Go is interested in joining knowing that they already have a separate league that is conducting. Anyway, congrats for Converge for joining the PBA. I just hope that they will not be the same as other independent teams out there and with regards to the list of bidders who joined, I don't think that they posted it only or they will post it online.

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 23, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

Prior to Converge getting the Alaska rights, is there a list shown to the public who offers to buy the franchise?

I did not read anything about that, I guess the negotiation was just in private and since Converge had the best offer, they were able to get the Alaska rights. For me, this kind of advertising is very helpful for their product as they are planning to expand nationwide.

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Quote from: Maslate on March 22, 2022, 11:02:54 PM

Two ISP in the PBA, it's a good competition for this two. So when Globe will have their team too? lol..

I'm not sure if there's any other ISP in the PBA as another franchise, the one that's just recently confirmed is the Converge.
Probably no way of Globe getting in, the other one that's likely to wait for a slot is PLDT. But I don't think these two huge telcos really need to get into the league and have their franchise. As of the moment, it's only Converge as the ISP in the league.

Maybe he meant that Pangilinan owns PLDT, who is also the owner of TNT / Smart. Converge is the new owner after buying Alaska not sure if there's no relationship between Pangilinan and the owner of Converge Roll Eyes

it would be nice if the one who bought the franchise is Ditto or Choks that would be a real threat.

Choks can compete offering a decent amount of contract and additional perks, maybe the reason why Magnolia switches from using the hotdogs to their chicken business, they don't want the same line of business to compete with wide exposure like the PBA. Cool

Yeah possible and it wasn't just explained clearly. As for the Chooks to go, they're mostly advertising only with PBA ads but I'm sure that there's also been an attempt to get a franchise.
But, they weren't granted as there's some conflict with the current franchises that they have and there's the competition so the PBA committee granted Converge instead.

Chooks-To-Go won't make it to the PBA as they already have a stand-alone campaign which will make things just complicated.

But we can't clearly rule out the possibility in the future.

Chooks-To-Go products are also the same as Magnolia which is owned by SMC and we know how influential and powerful SMC is to the league and one of the core companies while PBA is still standing.

Prior to Converge getting the Alaska rights, is there a list shown to the public who offers to buy the franchise?

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 23, 2022, 06:20:53 AM

Dbag scam team/league does it again (3rd game in a row), NLEX up 39:23 after 15min and in the next 15min they are 12:33 , makes total sense.

When does FIBA or any supervision look into this shit and stop this?

Do you even watch it live or just follow the scoreboard?

They are all Oscar's Best Actors if they did it on purpose. They will end up as a Hall of Famer of any Acting Rewards body since they are all good at it. Imagine they are able to control the ball, perform a proper defense, perform better gameplay because of their acting skills. Cheesy

You should also be able to see if the majority thinks of that way but only a few. Just move on.

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 23, 2022, 01:26:17 PM

Quote from: blockman on March 23, 2022, 12:33:11 PM

Quote from: Maslate on March 22, 2022, 11:02:54 PM

Two ISP in the PBA, it's a good competition for this two. So when Globe will have their team too? lol..

I'm not sure if there's any other ISP in the PBA as another franchise, the one that's just recently confirmed is the Converge.
Probably no way of Globe getting in, the other one that's likely to wait for a slot is PLDT. But I don't think these two huge telcos really need to get into the league and have their franchise. As of the moment, it's only Converge as the ISP in the league.

Maybe he meant that Pangilinan owns PLDT, who is also the owner of TNT / Smart. Converge is the new owner after buying Alaska not sure if there's no relationship between Pangilinan and the owner of Converge Roll Eyes

it would be nice if the one who bought the franchise is Ditto or Choks that would be a real threat.

Choks can compete offering a decent amount of contract and additional perks, maybe the reason why Magnolia switches from using the hotdogs to their chicken business, they don't want the same line of business to compete with wide exposure like the PBA. Cool

Yeah possible and it wasn't just explained clearly. As for the Chooks to go, they're mostly advertising only with PBA ads but I'm sure that there's also been an attempt to get a franchise.
But, they weren't granted as there's some conflict with the current franchises that they have and there's the competition so the PBA committee granted Converge instead.

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