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Quote from: Questat on March 18, 2022, 06:52:41 AM

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Quote from: carlisle1 on March 18, 2022, 05:11:08 AM

Can we compare SMB with the Lakers? hahaha Wink

are they going to have that same fate? Good in the paper but not in an actual game.

Maybe because we all got burned on this game. haha.

I'm sure everyone was on SMB -2.5, but look what happened, looks like they are the ones who are the underdog. Now, maybe the management has already realized that trading the veterans like Cabagnot and Santos was really a bad move.

Yeah, we expected that SMB would give Meralco trouble but it didn't happen. The import was very limited compared to his performance in their previous game against the same team which he scored 57 points IIRC, now he was only limited to 24 points.

Meanwhile, looks like no home for Phoenix here as the 20 points lead was even extended.

It's 4th quarter already and the score is 107-69 - Sad

You mentioned that well, but the import is not the only one inside the court. Even locals are struggling and looks like they are not prepared

from this game, while Bolts have always a counter and not allowing any rally from SMB.

Meanwhile, with Magnolia, that's full supremacy that they showed from that game against Phoenix. No doubt, they outscored.

Phoenix in each quarter of the game, Nothing but a good ball movement and good rotations! Congrats to all who take the handicap!

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Quote from: Distinctin on March 18, 2022, 10:28:23 AM

Quote from: agustina2 on March 18, 2022, 10:19:02 AM

The effect of SMB's Death 5 shows us how important are these players.

Even on All-Filipino, SMB is not dominating anymore. They proved that they are just being carried by JuneMar Fajardo or their imports. The game has now changed this conference and we see one of the dominating teams before doing an early exit.

JMF is not anymore the best player he was before, he used to score at least 20 points and grab a rebound of 15 or more, but look at his production in this game, he only scored 12 points and 12 rebounds. Also, the other locals aren't performing well, Ross and Lassiter had only combined with 11 points.

12points and 12 rebound is still a decent stats in my opinion since Junmar is the one making on there team as you already mention that the 2 players that supposed to be helping him is having a hard time to find there game. This is normal and we can see adjustment on there next match. JMF is surely not the same strong player since there’s a lot of younger player in the court while he is already showing slowness on his moves compared before that he completely dominating All filipino league.

That rebound is expected from him already because he is the tallest in the team and he played as a Center. However, that 12 points IMO is very low considering that JMF is the best player among the locals, not only in the SMB but in the entire PBA, so I am also not impressed with his performance this season so far.

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Maybe this is the effect of his games hobby that affects his training?

What kind of hobby are you talking?

AFAIK, JMF is a very discipline man, when he is in the court, he is focus on what he is doing.

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Quote from: Distinctin on March 18, 2022, 10:28:23 AM

By the way, the odds are out for tomorrow's games.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/matches

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Ginebra @ 2.07

I think this odds of Ginebra, I think we should not waste this opportunity as I'm pretty sure the line will move and the odds will change. For now, Ginebra is +2.5 but I have a feeling that it will flip as the game time is approaching.

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Alaska @ 1.87

A good one too considering NLEX did really struggle in their first game.

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Quote from: agustina2 on March 18, 2022, 10:19:02 AM

The effect of SMB's Death 5 shows us how important are these players.

Even on All-Filipino, SMB is not dominating anymore. They proved that they are just being carried by JuneMar Fajardo or their imports. The game has now changed this conference and we see one of the dominating teams before doing an early exit.

JMF is not anymore the best player he was before, he used to score at least 20 points and grab a rebound of 15 or more, but look at his production in this game, he only scored 12 points and 12 rebounds. Also, the other locals aren't performing well, Ross and Lassiter had only combined with 11 points.

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Meralco locals do their best and we see that. It's not just their import who the thing for them.

They are now patiently waiting for the Semi-Finals.

For sure the Semi Finals will be more entertaining because it will be Meralco vs Magnolia. And the winners tomorrow will also face each other.
my prediction for the other Semi Finals match will be the Ginebra vs Alaska.

By the way, the odds are out for tomorrow's games.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/matches

Moneyline
Ginebra @ 2.07
Alaska @ 1.87

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The effect of SMB's Death 5 shows us how important are these players.

Even on All-Filipino, SMB is not dominating anymore. They proved that they are just being carried by JuneMar Fajardo or their imports. The game has now changed this conference and we see one of the dominating teams before doing an early exit.

Meralco locals do their best and we see that. It's not just their import who the thing for them.

They are now patiently waiting for the Semi-Finals.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on March 18, 2022, 07:27:33 AM

Tomorrow lets watch the do-or-die games between TNT-GSM and NLEX-Alaska. Still, I will go with TNT with this one and maybe Alaska will take this one as well

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I thought the game between GSM and TNT is on Sunday.

Anyways, it's a double header tomorrow, TNT vs GSM will be the main attraction while Aces vs NLEX will be the 2nd attraction.
I think they should change the time schedule, TNT vs GSM should be @06:30 PM instead of the other game.

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Quote from: Vaculin on March 18, 2022, 04:53:39 AM

Pretty bad game by the SMB, they lose in the game and their journey has ended.

Final score 85-100 (Meralco), not even a close game.
Congrats to Meralco and sorry to those who bet on SMB to win.

Next game coming up in 8 minutes, let's enjoy the last game of the night.

What happened last Wednesday is the complete opposite of what happened today.
We saw the lower team forcing a do-or-die game last Wednesday but this time, the lower teams got eliminated immediately.

I thought that SMB will do what they did when they are up against Meralco where they made a huge comeback and win the game but it didn't happen this time. Bishop and Newsome carried the whole team with 32 and 22 points respectively while Shabazz only scored 24 points this time, very far to his last performance when these 2 teams met where he scored 50+ points.

Magnolia and Phoenix match-up. I think we all agree that Magnolia will win this series easily and it is what happened. They just dominated the whole game and win it 127-88. Wright's foul trouble made it harder for the Phoenix to come close to the Magnolia and he only scored 8 points. When you need him to score as much as he can, he can't deliver which is kinda sad to think especially for Phoenix fans. Tomorrow lets watch the do-or-die games between TNT-GSM and NLEX-Alaska. Still, I will go with TNT with this one and maybe Alaska will take this one as well

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Quote from: carlisle1 on March 18, 2022, 05:11:08 AM

Can we compare SMB with the Lakers? hahaha Wink

are they going to have that same fate? Good in the paper but not in an actual game.

Maybe because we all got burned on this game. haha.

I'm sure everyone was on SMB -2.5, but look what happened, looks like they are the ones who are the underdog. Now, maybe the management has already realized that trading the veterans like Cabagnot and Santos was really a bad move.

Yeah, we expected that SMB would give Meralco trouble but it didn't happen. The import was very limited compared to his performance in their previous game against the same team which he scored 57 points IIRC, now he was only limited to 24 points.

Meanwhile, looks like no home for Phoenix here as the 20 points lead was even extended.

It's 4th quarter already and the score is 107-69 - Sad

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Quote from: carlisle1 on March 18, 2022, 05:11:08 AM

Can we compare SMB with the Lakers? hahaha Wink

are they going to have that same fate? Good in the paper but not in an actual game.

Maybe because we all got burned on this game. haha.

I'm sure everyone was on SMB -2.5, but look what happened, looks like they are the ones who are the underdog. Now, maybe the management has already realized that trading the veterans like Cabagnot and Santos was really a bad move.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on March 18, 2022, 05:11:08 AM

Can we compare SMB with the Lakers? hahaha Wink

are they going to have that same fate? Good in the paper but not in an actual game.

No, SMB does not have a Lebron type player.

Anyway, looks like Magnolia is going to advance because they are leading 20 points already ending the first half. If this team takes this kind of big lead, only a miracle will do for a team trying to come back and win. I have a feeling that the spread will be covered as well, so congrats on the -6.5 betslips you guys kept.

Half time score is 66-46, it remained a 20 points advantage by the Magnolia hotshots. Paul Lee is very hot in this game, he already had 20 points and big part of that is coming from a 5-6 shooting in the 3 point line, what a night for him, the import doesn't need to work hard to win because Paul has taken over the game.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on March 18, 2022, 05:11:08 AM

Can we compare SMB with the Lakers? hahaha Wink

are they going to have that same fate? Good in the paper but not in an actual game.

No, SMB does not have a Lebron type player.

Anyway, looks like Magnolia is going to advance because they are leading 20 points already ending the first half. If this team takes this kind of big lead, only a miracle will do for a team trying to come back and win. I have a feeling that the spread will be covered as well, so congrats on the -6.5 betslips you guys kept.

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Quote from: Vaculin on March 18, 2022, 04:53:39 AM

Pretty bad game by the SMB, they lose in the game and their journey has ended.

Final score 85-100 (Meralco), not even a close game.
Congrats to Meralco and sorry to those who bet on SMB to win.

Next game coming up in 8 minutes, let's enjoy the last game of the night.

Meralco already advance to the semis will be going to wait for the winner between Magnolia and Phoenix.

It's a disappointing loss for the fans who trust SMB and place their bets with the handicap, while for those who trust Meralco, either the

handicap or the ML. It's a sweet win and another chance to bet on their next trip.

Can we compare SMB with the Lakers? hahaha Wink

are they going to have that same fate? Good in the paper but not in an actual game.

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Winding down.

Pretty bad game by the SMB, they lose in the game and their journey has ended.

Final score 85-100 (Meralco), not even a close game.
Congrats to Meralco and sorry to those who bet on SMB to win.

Next game coming up in 8 minutes, let's enjoy the last game of the night.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 17, 2022, 05:01:09 PM

SMB -2.5 @1.85 vs Meralco, I'm an SMB fan so I'll take this risk. They might win game 1 but advancing into the semis is a herculean task for their import as he only played a few games for them and the chemistry is not there yet. Just hoping that the locals of SMB would play a big role, especially Fajardo but knowing that their import is a "score first" type of player, I'm skeptical about that one hehe.

Magnolia -6.5 @1.77 vs Phoenix, the Hotshots are just too much for the Fuel Masters. The question here is will they cover the spread?

I'm also with the other's guess that SMB might take the win at 1st game against the Meralco.

Either Moneyline or Handicap, it's worth placing money on SMB. Meralco won't' feel any pressure on that game since even they will lose, their still another game for them, unlike SMB where I do expect that they will play hard because they will be eliminated once they lose.

But hesitant to place a bet on Phoenix. They even struggle to get that last spot against NorthPorth which is actually much easier compared to defeating a top seed, Magnolia. But since they are in danger, they might cover the spread of at least +5. Undecided till now.

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Quote from: Japinat on March 17, 2022, 07:19:25 AM

I'm thinking of a defensive game so the right bet is under. Also, I'm thinking that Ginebra will gain the momentum and they'll be able to beat the TNT in their do-or-die game. They had the biggest crowd since the last two years in that game, expect this Sunday to be bigger and all supporting the Gin Kings to win.

Since both Ginebra and TNT will bid goodbye after a loss, I'm also expecting a close game where Defense is the most priority. Lead over a lead is what I'm looking forward to seeing when they finally clash again. No room now for any mistakes or errors. Every play per possession is important. I'm sure both teams already know what is currently at stake if they don't do their best.

Win or Go Home, Sudden-death, Knock Out game - once a team put on that situation, they will be under pressure.

In tonight's game, I'm also expecting SMB and Phoenix to take wins first although it will be most hard to achieve by the latter.

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Can't wait to see tomorrow's game (SMB vs Bolts, Magnolia vs Phoenix) if they will also have the same result where those who have a twice-to-beat advantage lose.

SMB -2.5 @1.85 vs Meralco, I'm an SMB fan so I'll take this risk. They might win game 1 but advancing into the semis is a herculean task for their import as he only played a few g

Magnolia -6.5 @1.77 vs Phoenix, the Hotshots are just too much for the Fuel Masters. The question here is will they cover the spread?

About these four teams plays and fighting and chasing the victory, I will put my bet to SMB and magnolia cause I am one of their fans and I am sure that they will win and also I win.
It's a good number of bet and yes you are right that it takes a risk when we bet SMB but we should, to support our favorite teams.

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ames for them and the chemistry is not there yet. Just hoping that the locals of SMB would play a big role, especially Fajardo but knowing that their import is a "score first" type of player, I'm skeptical about that one hehe.

Import of SMB is quite good and hi will fit to the team and also ge is a big help to junmar to carry their team.

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Quote from: harizen on March 17, 2022, 06:51:45 AM

Can't wait to see tomorrow's game (SMB vs Bolts, Magnolia vs Phoenix) if they will also have the same result where those who have a twice-to-beat advantage lose.

SMB -2.5 @1.85 vs Meralco, I'm an SMB fan so I'll take this risk. They might win game 1 but advancing into the semis is a herculean task for their import as he only played a few games for them and the chemistry is not there yet. Just hoping that the locals of SMB would play a big role, especially Fajardo but knowing that their import is a "score first" type of player, I'm skeptical about that one hehe.

Magnolia -6.5 @1.77 vs Phoenix, the Hotshots are just too much for the Fuel Masters. The question here is will they cover the spread?

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Quote from: Japinat on March 17, 2022, 09:54:05 AM

I'm glad we are on the same boat, let's get this one

Anyway, moving on to the scheduled games tomorrow, we have two games, and here are the betting odds.
SMB only -2.5 for a 1.81 odds, maybe you can increase that to -3.5 for betting odds.

you can also see the full odds here https://stake.com/sports/basketball

It's also good to parlay both SMB franchise, most likely you can get a double with your initial bet. Both teams show as favorite and have that good chance of winning, though inside this league there are many incidents that favorite losses the game, just like how Aces beats NLEX not sure though if Phoenix can do that same outcome.

Magnolia seems to be a well organized and balance team. Whoever inside has the capabilities to provide and act for their roles.

You can bet now or wait for the live games and see if there's good changes from the ongoing odds.

For me, I'd rather bet on the spread than parlay a bet on ML.

The parlay would only result to =2.1543=,, not so attractive on my side, so instead, I'll go for SMB -3.5 and hope they'll dominate the Meralco in this game.

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I'm not surprised with the Ginebra but on Alaska win.

There are lots saying that would be their last game but they stay alive. It would be better if they were able to beat NLEX and that was a big upset and one of the greatest playoffs situations in the league's history where a lower seed team defeat a high seed team with a twice-to-beat advantage.

A great tribute to Alaska if they will be able to push more. As long as they play hard, it's always possible.

In the TNT-Ginebra series, I went on TNT to win on this series though I'm not surprised if this will go to a do-or-die game. Scottie is their secret weapon for a long time already because on how he is playing. He can shoot, he can rebound and he can pass as well that is why Ginebra got a great asset with him.

Now with the NLEX-Alaska. I already said that the imports from both teams changed that is why its hard to predict which team will win because imports are a huge part in this series but in this game, both of the imports played well. The problem is the Locals of NLEX. Either way, I believe that Coach Yeng will do something to win in their next game.

We will see SMB vs. Meralco and Magnolia vs. Phoenix tomorrow. I will go with SMB with this one and maybe its a do-or-die game as well but with Magnolia-Phoenix, I think Magnolia will win on this one tomorrow.

Coach Yeng needs to adjust and make his locals to work with his new import. It's the very key to win against Alaska they need to play

as a team and not just to keep the import of working alone. If they will manage to adjust, they still have that good chance to advance to

the next round, else, Aces will be moving to the semis with a high pride beating a twice to beat advantage of NLEX.

Something that the fans would love to see before sending the final goodbye for this franchise.

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Quote from: Japinat on March 17, 2022, 09:54:05 AM

I'm glad we are on the same boat, let's get this one

Anyway, moving on to the scheduled games tomorrow, we have two games, and here are the betting odds.
SMB only -2.5 for a 1.81 odds, maybe you can increase that to -3.5 for betting odds.

you can also see the full odds here https://stake.com/sports/basketball

It's also good to parlay both SMB franchise, most likely you can get a double with your initial bet. Both teams show as favorite and have that good chance of winning, though inside this league there are many incidents that favorite losses the game, just like how Aces beats NLEX not sure though if Phoenix can do that same outcome.

Magnolia seems to be a well organized and balance team. Whoever inside has the capabilities to provide and act for their roles.

You can bet now or wait for the live games and see if there's good changes from the ongoing odds.

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