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September 23, 2021, 02:34:27 AM
The PBD is and will always be the biggest scam league world wide. Its amazing what happens here week after week and season after season.

Teams dominating games and then for no reason dont score for 8 minutes and get a 0:15 run, or even more.

Just now again. Bolts score 8 points in the 3rd quarter after scoring 23 and 24 before and suddenly now they score 8 points in the first 3min of the 4th.

Rigged as fuck and an insult to the game of basketball.
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September 23, 2021, 01:40:14 AM
The first game today between Ginebra and Meralco has already started, I'm betting on the Meralco to win as I have a feeling that Ginebra will continue to struggle, they are not a sister team, so no rig in this game, lol.

I got them at live bet at 2.2 for ML and 5.75 for winning 11+.. who knows, right?

Good luck on that wonderful bet of yours, Meralco now is already leading 40-26 is the current score and it looks like they will get a blowout win this game. you will win the ML (90% probably) and a bonus of x5.75 (50%) IMO, so congratulations in advance.  Smiley

Edit - looks like I'm wrong, only 4 points lead by Meralco now and we are in the 4th quarter already.
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September 23, 2021, 01:05:27 AM
The first game today between Ginebra and Meralco has already started, I'm betting on the Meralco to win as I have a feeling that Ginebra will continue to struggle, they are not a sister team, so no rig in this game, lol.

I got them at live bet at 2.2 for ML and 5.75 for winning 11+.. who knows, right?
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September 23, 2021, 12:59:53 AM
What do you think about Calvin Oftana?

This guy made history breaking Alan Caidic's record, and he is still in his rookie year now, so what do we expect about him. will he become a star player of the NLEX to replace Ravena who are now playing in the B League?

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Former NCAA MVP Calvin Oftana breaks Allan Caidic's rookie record

I think he will be a valuable player for the team, it's not surprising because he is a former NCAA MVP and sure he can shoot. The most important here is that he is lucky to be playing with the NLEX which has a coach that allows all his players to shoot 3s even their big man actually, so this happens and he really showed up.

This is just the beginning, we can expect more from him although he will become a marked man soon.
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September 23, 2021, 12:45:57 AM
What do you think about Calvin Oftana?

This guy made history breaking Alan Caidic's record, and he is still in his rookie year now, so what do we expect about him. will he become a star player of the NLEX to replace Ravena who are now playing in the B League?

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Former NCAA MVP Calvin Oftana breaks Allan Caidic's rookie record
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September 22, 2021, 05:17:53 PM
Per rumor, I think it would CStand. Also, there are rumors that CStand's arrival on Ginebra is not welcome by most of his teammates, this might also be the one reason why they are losing games opposite to what we all have expected.
Then it's time for him to look for a team that will appreciate him, and I think he will be more valued in B League as C. Stand is used to playing in international competitions. I think C. Stand really has the talent, he just belongs to the wrong team which obviously affected his performance and his statistics.

Yeah that is if he have an offer on B.league better he grabs it since he's career will be at stake if he continue to playat ginebra where we know that he didn't fit on their current system. But I don't know why this happen to ginebra this season and I think they should re-evaluate more what the cost of their current struggle since if they stick on their current system they might lose more games and possibly they cannot reach to the finals.

That current system takes BGSM to the championship last season. There's no need to change it just because of one player. Would be better to get rid of a thing that destroys that effective system. Limit CStand's playing time and make it balance even he's on a good or worst performance on that night. Although it's too late to do that now so better revamp it next conference either trade CStand or trust the process that soon he will finally create a good blend for his teammates.

Changing the system for the sake of CStand is already a spoiled brat giving him always the spoon. CStand should do the adjustment, not the whole team.

I think the problem starts when CStand demands more playing time as he's used on that on his former team. A newcomer then will request like that instead of letting Coach Tim Cone do his usual rotation, it might be something not acceptable to his teammates especially at those who are in BGSM for long but didn't getting enough playing time.

I thought SMB would lose the game.

Nice last play design by the SMB, just in time and Marcio did not fail us with this game-winning shot.
SMB just won by 1 point and they did not cover the spread.  Sad

Many got burned on that game. Here in P2P betting, they even considered that game as having no bearing and a sure win by SMB. Yes, they won but the handicap didn't cover. Alaska surprises everybody. That was almost a win and a supposed big upset.
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September 22, 2021, 01:13:41 PM
Then it's time for him to look for a team that will appreciate him, and I think he will be more valued in B League as C. Stand is used to playing in international competitions. I think C. Stand really has the talent, he just belongs to the wrong team which obviously affected his performance and his statistics.
Yeah that is if he have an offer on B.league better he grabs it since he's career will be at stake if he continue to playat ginebra where we know that he didn't fit on their current system. But I don't know why this happen to ginebra this season and I think they should re-evaluate more what the cost of their current struggle since if they stick on their current system they might lose more games and possibly they cannot reach to the finals.

When he was traded for GregZilla we thought he will be a menace for the opposition. First, we all thought that C-Stand is exactly what Ginebra needs. But for some reason, he never seemed to settle in the team. We can safely say that he's going through a rough patch right now. But considering his form, other teams will think twice before approaching him. But it's better for both parties to move on to better things.

The problem is not him but those stars Ginebra have, not sure why Aguilar is not performing the way he used to be and the struggles of Pringle and Thompson, it seems that C.Stan is not the player that they wanted to jive and blend for the game; they are all trying to manage the ball and the rotation is really affected.

Ginebra's system is no longer showing well. They are executing the same over and over, but the outcome is not favoring them. They still have the chance, but it's slimmer now if they are chasing for another bubble title.
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September 22, 2021, 12:59:19 PM
Then it's time for him to look for a team that will appreciate him, and I think he will be more valued in B League as C. Stand is used to playing in international competitions. I think C. Stand really has the talent, he just belongs to the wrong team which obviously affected his performance and his statistics.
Yeah that is if he have an offer on B.league better he grabs it since he's career will be at stake if he continue to playat ginebra where we know that he didn't fit on their current system. But I don't know why this happen to ginebra this season and I think they should re-evaluate more what the cost of their current struggle since if they stick on their current system they might lose more games and possibly they cannot reach to the finals.

When he was traded for GregZilla we thought he will be a menace for the opposition. First, we all thought that C-Stand is exactly what Ginebra needs. But for some reason, he never seemed to settle in the team. We can safely say that he's going through a rough patch right now. But considering his form, other teams will think twice before approaching him. But it's better for both parties to move on to better things.
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September 22, 2021, 10:45:55 AM
Per rumor, I think it would CStand. Also, there are rumors that CStand's arrival on Ginebra is not welcome by most of his teammates, this might also be the one reason why they are losing games opposite to what we all have expected.
Then it's time for him to look for a team that will appreciate him, and I think he will be more valued in B League as C. Stand is used to playing in international competitions. I think C. Stand really has the talent, he just belongs to the wrong team which obviously affected his performance and his statistics.
Yeah that is if he have an offer on B.league better he grabs it since he's career will be at stake if he continue to playat ginebra where we know that he didn't fit on their current system. But I don't know why this happen to ginebra this season and I think they should re-evaluate more what the cost of their current struggle since if they stick on their current system they might lose more games and possibly they cannot reach to the finals.
Then it will be a big problem for Ginebra as they traded Greg for C. Stand thinking C. Stand will do better but look at what happened. Ginebra is a mess now, they better give up and find a new solution for next season. This is good for C. Stand and the team, they can't just continue to suffer from this struggle.

Being in the wrong team both effects the new player as well as the other ones in the squad. And if the rumors are correct that his teammates don't like him, this could be a very good reason for them not playing well recently because, at the end of the day, team chemistry is very important in these games. And having a clash or a bad buzz among the players creates chaos both in and outside of the field. Stand does have the qualities, maybe he needs to find a team that suits him I don't know the reason behind his and his teammates clash but whatever it is, he needs to either figure it out and solve it or maybe look for another team having the same mindset as his.
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September 22, 2021, 08:52:28 AM
Per rumor, I think it would CStand. Also, there are rumors that CStand's arrival on Ginebra is not welcome by most of his teammates, this might also be the one reason why they are losing games opposite to what we all have expected.
Then it's time for him to look for a team that will appreciate him, and I think he will be more valued in B League as C. Stand is used to playing in international competitions. I think C. Stand really has the talent, he just belongs to the wrong team which obviously affected his performance and his statistics.

Yeah that is if he have an offer on B.league better he grabs it since he's career will be at stake if he continue to playat ginebra where we know that he didn't fit on their current system. But I don't know why this happen to ginebra this season and I think they should re-evaluate more what the cost of their current struggle since if they stick on their current system they might lose more games and possibly they cannot reach to the finals.

Then it will be a big problem for Ginebra as they traded Greg for C. Stand thinking C. Stand will do better but look at what happened. Ginebra is a mess now, they better give up and find a new solution for next season. This is good for C. Stand and the team, they can't just continue to suffer from this struggle.
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September 22, 2021, 08:38:53 AM
Per rumor, I think it would CStand. Also, there are rumors that CStand's arrival on Ginebra is not welcome by most of his teammates, this might also be the one reason why they are losing games opposite to what we all have expected.
Then it's time for him to look for a team that will appreciate him, and I think he will be more valued in B League as C. Stand is used to playing in international competitions. I think C. Stand really has the talent, he just belongs to the wrong team which obviously affected his performance and his statistics.

Yeah that is if he have an offer on B.league better he grabs it since he's career will be at stake if he continue to playat ginebra where we know that he didn't fit on their current system. But I don't know why this happen to ginebra this season and I think they should re-evaluate more what the cost of their current struggle since if they stick on their current system they might lose more games and possibly they cannot reach to the finals.
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September 22, 2021, 08:27:12 AM
Per rumor, I think it would CStand. Also, there are rumors that CStand's arrival on Ginebra is not welcome by most of his teammates, this might also be the one reason why they are losing games opposite to what we all have expected.
Then it's time for him to look for a team that will appreciate him, and I think he will be more valued in B League as C. Stand is used to playing in international competitions. I think C. Stand really has the talent, he just belongs to the wrong team which obviously affected his performance and his statistics.
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September 22, 2021, 07:05:09 AM
We have SMB vs Alaska tonight at 6;00 Pm.

Only 1 game and I'm taking the SMB at -7.5 since this is a must win for them and I believe they will handle Alaska easily who lose against the DYIP in double digits. Also betting on the total and my pick is under 186.5.

I got it at -6.5 @2.02 boosted for SMB as i bet early in the morning and look like they are heading now for a win, leading by seven points in the middle of the second quarter. Alaska is depleted and playing fatigue so an upset is unlikely in this game, all we have to wait for now is what will be the lead after the final buzzer sound.
Alaska flip things fast, they are in the lead now, with 4 points, good run in the 2nd quarter as they only allow the SMB to score 10 points.

Lost my bet here but what a ballgame, Alaska did fight until the seconds of the game. A clutch trey by Marcio Lassiter did seal the win for SMB, wow.

On the other hand, Ginebra seems to be in disarray t the moment. Scottie Thompson is being listed with injury while Mark Caguia is on the free-agent while rumors have it that Ginebra big man will soon be taking his act on Japan B league. Who might that be? Any guess?
Is it Japeth or C. Stand? well, if they will look for better opportunity, then they can play with the B League, it's where the money is.

Per rumor, I think it would CStand. Also, there are rumors that CStand's arrival on Ginebra is not welcome by most of his teammates, this might also be the one reason why they are losing games opposite to what we all have expected.
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September 22, 2021, 07:02:52 AM
I thought SMB would lose the game.

Nice last play design by the SMB, just in time and Marcio did not fail us with this game-winning shot.
SMB just won by 1 point and they did not cover the spread.  Sad
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September 22, 2021, 05:29:38 AM
We have SMB vs Alaska tonight at 6;00 Pm.

Only 1 game and I'm taking the SMB at -7.5 since this is a must win for them and I believe they will handle Alaska easily who lose against the DYIP in double digits. Also betting on the total and my pick is under 186.5.

I got it at -6.5 @2.02 boosted for SMB as i bet early in the morning and look like they are heading now for a win, leading by seven points in the middle of the second quarter. Alaska is depleted and playing fatigue so an upset is unlikely in this game, all we have to wait for now is what will be the lead after the final buzzer sound.
Alaska flip things fast, they are in the lead now, with 4 points, good run in the 2nd quarter as they only allow the SMB to score 10 points.

On the other hand, Ginebra seems to be in disarray t the moment. Scottie Thompson is being listed with injury while Mark Caguia is on the free-agent while rumors have it that Ginebra big man will soon be taking his act on Japan B league. Who might that be? Any guess?
Is it Japeth or C. Stand? well, if they will look for better opportunity, then they can play with the B League, it's where the money is.
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September 22, 2021, 05:18:23 AM
We have SMB vs Alaska tonight at 6;00 Pm.

Only 1 game and I'm taking the SMB at -7.5 since this is a must win for them and I believe they will handle Alaska easily who lose against the DYIP in double digits. Also betting on the total and my pick is under 186.5.

I got it at -6.5 @2.02 boosted for SMB as i bet early in the morning and look like they are heading now for a win, leading by seven points in the middle of the second quarter. Alaska is depleted and playing fatigue so an upset is unlikely in this game, all we have to wait for now is what will be the lead after the final buzzer sound.

On the other hand, Ginebra seems to be in disarray t the moment. Scottie Thompson is being listed with injury while Mark Caguia is on the free-agent while rumors have it that Ginebra big man will soon be taking his act on Japan B league. Who might that be? Any guess?
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September 22, 2021, 04:49:00 AM
We have SMB vs Alaska tonight at 6;00 Pm.

Only 1 game and I'm taking the SMB at -7.5 since this is a must win for them and I believe they will handle Alaska easily who lose against the DYIP in double digits. Also betting on the total and my pick is under 186.5.
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September 22, 2021, 03:20:22 AM

They're like became the farm team of stronger teams and I guess it's not too late for them to have this revamp. It may seem to be late when they should've done this before when they always get to kicked early for many conferences.
They will have a revamp and for sure that they'll start to invest with greater players that shall uplift the team and also it will include the coaching staff and it seems that the owner wants to give his company's name on the PBA to have a better title.

The last time they are playing good is when Parks still with them, he single carried this team and try to make a playoff appearance,

after that there's none and each conference they attempt they keep ending up last in winners tally.
revamping is really the best thing to do now, they need to invest more money with good talents and have a much better winning percentage.

This current roster don't have any winning chemistry and the management needs to part ways with most of them if not all.

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September 21, 2021, 05:08:04 PM

Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.
What a coincidence, I was just browsing on newsfeed and the news came out from One Sports about this contract review. When they're not working well and they keep on losing, there's really a major thing that they have to change and now is the right time for them to review each contract and revamping the team. If they want to prolong this franchise and make it worthy, they should really need to make a lot of changes, from the coaching staff, players and almost everything to see if there's going to be a sudden change.

No offense from the team owner, but if they wanted to make a good change it should be the players that they needed to revamp.

Even you have coach Tim or Coach Chot, with the squad you have from your roster,
it's impossible to make any miracle wining a single game,

there's none who are willing to step up, sorry for the word but all those players are
not the type of players who are willing to step up and bring to the competition to a good level,
they are just there to play, win or lose  they are okay with the paycheck.
They're like became the farm team of stronger teams and I guess it's not too late for them to have this revamp. It may seem to be late when they should've done this before when they always get to kicked early for many conferences.
They will have a revamp and for sure that they'll start to invest with greater players that shall uplift the team and also it will include the coaching staff and it seems that the owner wants to give his company's name on the PBA to have a better title.
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September 21, 2021, 04:19:41 PM

Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.
What a coincidence, I was just browsing on newsfeed and the news came out from One Sports about this contract review. When they're not working well and they keep on losing, there's really a major thing that they have to change and now is the right time for them to review each contract and revamping the team. If they want to prolong this franchise and make it worthy, they should really need to make a lot of changes, from the coaching staff, players and almost everything to see if there's going to be a sudden change.

No offense from the team owner, but if they wanted to make a good change it should be the players that they needed to revamp.

Even you have coach Tim or Coach Chot, with the squad you have from your roster,
it's impossible to make any miracle wining a single game,

there's none who are willing to step up, sorry for the word but all those players are
not the type of players who are willing to step up and bring to the competition to a good level,
they are just there to play, win or lose  they are okay with the paycheck.

Maybe there's a big problem inside, not only the coaching staff and the players, the management as well. They will have a lot of time to review and evaluate what has happened, their record is worst, and therefore they should act on it immediately. Actually, this team has been struggling every season, but this is their worst so far.
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