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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 24, 2021, 10:41:11 AM

Quote from: Finestream on September 24, 2021, 09:15:00 AM

In the previous game of the Ginebra Hypnosis00 won on the specials.

How about this time?

https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/29419372-barangay-ginebra-vs-phoenix-fuel-masters

Any takers here?

I see the odds are very attractive especially if you believe that Ginebra will tank again.

Risk takers may take one or more from those available odds for Phoenix, who knows Ginebra gave it up and let things go end without a fight,

the never say die is no longer their for this team after acquiring CStan.
The chemistry after those many games didn't materialize for them. This might be the end of their journey to defend the title.

Again, it's just speculation, we don't know what's waiting when the game start maybe Pringle will spark and lead or CStan will bring
something surprising..

If there's still some gas to use, Ginebra needs it all for this game!

Last game, Pringle, C. Stand, and Tenorio all played over 40 minutes, I can see the fatigue here and I think it's gonna be a low scoring game as the Ginebra despite being undermanned will try to win this game, however, trying is not enough if they missed two of their huge contributor.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 24, 2021, 09:15:00 AM

In the previous game of the Ginebra Hypnosis00 won on the specials.

How about this time?

https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/29419372-barangay-ginebra-vs-phoenix-fuel-masters

Any takers here?

I see the odds are very attractive especially if you believe that Ginebra will tank again.

Risk takers may take one or more from those available odds for Phoenix, who knows Ginebra gave it up and let things go end without a fight,

the never say die is no longer their for this team after acquiring CStan.
The chemistry after those many games didn't materialize for them. This might be the end of their journey to defend the title.

Again, it's just speculation, we don't know what's waiting when the game start maybe Pringle will spark and lead or CStan will bring
something surprising..

If there's still some gas to use, Ginebra needs it all for this game!

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In the previous game of the Ginebra Hypnosis00 won on the specials.

How about this time?

https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/29419372-barangay-ginebra-vs-phoenix-fuel-masters

Any takers here?

I see the odds are very attractive especially if you believe that Ginebra will tank again.

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Quote from: Vaculin on September 24, 2021, 07:41:38 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 24, 2021, 06:20:32 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 24, 2021, 05:52:11 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on September 24, 2021, 05:19:32 AM

I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

I feel the same, so I would bet on the Phoenix fuel masters to win no matter what the odds are. And since Ginebra is a hype team, maybe we will see very good odds for the Fuel Masters in this game, I even like them to be an underdog and I'll consider it as a good opportunity to make easy money. (hopefully)

Same here, with Japeth Aguilar and Scotie Thompson out, the Gin Kings will be having a hard time controlling the rebound and in this kind of situation, the team who controls the board usually wins.

Still, bookies have put the Kings as favorite huh, time to exploit these odds guys haha.

My bet for tomorrow Phoenix ML @2.36 boosted.

Good luck.

The line is already out, I can't believe that Ginebra is still the underdog.

I tried the "price boost" feature but I'm only getting 2.19, I think bettors are already putting their money on the Phoenix to win as they see the struggle of Ginebra in the past few games.

Don't need to be surprised mate, Ginebra is always a crowd favorite or the bettors favorite, lots of money will still flow for Ginebra especially from bettors who do not follow the update about the injury of Aguilar and Thompson. The defending champion will be eliminated soon and the TNT, Magnolia, and SMB will have bigger chance of winning the championship.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 24, 2021, 06:20:32 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 24, 2021, 05:52:11 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on September 24, 2021, 05:19:32 AM

I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

I feel the same, so I would bet on the Phoenix fuel masters to win no matter what the odds are. And since Ginebra is a hype team, maybe we will see very good odds for the Fuel Masters in this game, I even like them to be an underdog and I'll consider it as a good opportunity to make easy money. (hopefully)

Same here, with Japeth Aguilar and Scotie Thompson out, the Gin Kings will be having a hard time controlling the rebound and in this kind of situation, the team who controls the board usually wins.

Still, bookies have put the Kings as favorite huh, time to exploit these odds guys haha.

My bet for tomorrow Phoenix ML @2.36 boosted.

Good luck.

The line is already out, I can't believe that Ginebra is still the underdog.

I tried the "price boost" feature but I'm only getting 2.19, I think bettors are already putting their money on the Phoenix to win as they see the struggle of Ginebra in the past few games.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 24, 2021, 05:52:11 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on September 24, 2021, 05:19:32 AM

I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

I feel the same, so I would bet on the Phoenix fuel masters to win no matter what the odds are. And since Ginebra is a hype team, maybe we will see very good odds for the Fuel Masters in this game, I even like them to be an underdog and I'll consider it as a good opportunity to make easy money. (hopefully)

Same here, with Japeth Aguilar and Scotie Thompson out, the Gin Kings will be having a hard time controlling the rebound and in this kind of situation, the team who controls the board usually wins.

Still, bookies have put the Kings as favorite huh, time to exploit these odds guys haha.

My bet for tomorrow Phoenix ML @2.36 boosted.

Good luck.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 24, 2021, 05:19:32 AM

I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

I feel the same, so I would bet on the Phoenix fuel masters to win no matter what the odds are. And since Ginebra is a hype team, maybe we will see very good odds for the Fuel Masters in this game, I even like them to be an underdog and I'll consider it as a good opportunity to make easy money. (hopefully)

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Quote from: Kelvinid on September 24, 2021, 03:18:51 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 23, 2021, 05:59:52 PM

Just wondering, SMB almost lost with Alaska while NP without Greg they beat them with 28 points, seems that only the Hotshots is the one who's performing for SMC.

Maybe it's a setup or rigged Grin

Just for the laugh!

Stop that rigged thing, lol.

Well, Ginebra really struggles, it's very evident in their games and I will bet against them in their game tomorrow.
There's only one game tomorrow and maybe I will consider betting on the Phoenix Fuelmasters to win by 11+.

I checked the bookies I used, no odds release yet, maybe in the evening, it will be up.

We can check on different sportsbook, it's also not yet available here https://www.playbetr.com/sports

According to the official website, the game will be 22 hours from now, so it will be tomorrow. https://pba.ph/

Bad news for Ginebra as there's still no news that says Thompson or Japeth Might play, they will lose their center strength and I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 23, 2021, 05:59:52 PM

Just wondering, SMB almost lost with Alaska while NP without Greg they beat them with 28 points, seems that only the Hotshots is the one who's performing for SMC.

Maybe it's a setup or rigged Grin

Just for the laugh!

Stop that rigged thing, lol.

Well, Ginebra really struggles, it's very evident in their games and I will bet against them in their game tomorrow.
There's only one game tomorrow and maybe I will consider betting on the Phoenix Fuelmasters to win by 11+.

I checked the bookies I used, no odds release yet, maybe in the evening, it will be up.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 23, 2021, 05:24:08 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 23, 2021, 02:54:05 AM

Sorry I was wrong with the odds, I check my bet and it's only 5.25, but still thankful as it's a win. Good start today, I will still bet on the next game and I think it's going to be a close one.

here's my bet slip.

Congrats mate, that's a big win for you. TBH, I don't have the courage to bet on that kind of a market, I'd rather bet on ML than that one.

Bookies were blinded on this game, why they put Ginebra the favorites while the team struggles to win and to think Bolts is on the top of the standings.

I'm just curious now on what the future hold for the Gin Kings after this awful conference which on paper they are a very strong contender for the trophy.

I missed this out though that's good because I'll surely bet for Gin kings thinking that they will try harder but reading post and watching replays, there's nothing for them the chemistry are not working without Aguilar and Thompson nothing from the bench that can provide some sparks for coach Tim.

Just wondering, SMB almost lost with Alaska while NP without Greg they beat them with 28 points, seems that only the Hotshots is the one who's performing for SMC.

Maybe it's a setup or rigged Grin

Just for the laugh!

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 23, 2021, 12:12:52 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on September 23, 2021, 07:28:14 AM

Those who continue to believe that Ginebra is still a good team, certainly lose a lot of money already as Ginebra keeps losing. Meralco is not really a bad team though, so they can give Ginebra a big problem and we saw it because when the Ginebra rally, they still gas out in the 4th quarter and loss.

Look at the minutes played by 3 of the starters, this is not reasonable anymore, they are too desperate.

https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902622

Tenorio - 44:27
Pringle - 42:07
C. Stand - 40:45

They are trying to win, but even starters have that number of mins without the chemistry they still unable to complete the chase.

The last chance against Phoenix will let them to try to make the final blow. If they will play the same way, then it's done with them. Remember that
last time they've met it was the last quarter snatch and Phoenix almost have it.

I'll be siding with them and bet, will try some luck.

It's not worth it to bet on Ginebra if they are playing with Japeth Aguilar and Scottie Thompson, that's 2 of the starters are missing, so they are not complete and they can't win against a healthy team.

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Who knows, there's some pride that remains being the defending champ.

They still have that but it's not enough for them to win now.

By the way, we have a break today and the game will be in Saturday.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 23, 2021, 07:28:14 AM

Those who continue to believe that Ginebra is still a good team, certainly lose a lot of money already as Ginebra keeps losing. Meralco is not really a bad team though, so they can give Ginebra a big problem and we saw it because when the Ginebra rally, they still gas out in the 4th quarter and loss.

Look at the minutes played by 3 of the starters, this is not reasonable anymore, they are too desperate.

https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902622

Tenorio - 44:27
Pringle - 42:07
C. Stand - 40:45

They are trying to win, but even starters have that number of mins without the chemistry they still unable to complete the chase.

The last chance against Phoenix will let them to try to make the final blow. If they will play the same way, then it's done with them. Remember that
last time they've met it was the last quarter snatch and Phoenix almost have it.

I'll be siding with them and bet, will try some luck. Who knows, there's some pride that remains being the defending champ.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 23, 2021, 08:00:54 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on September 23, 2021, 07:50:55 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on September 23, 2021, 07:28:14 AM

Those who continue to believe that Ginebra is still a good team, certainly lose a lot of money already as Ginebra keeps losing. Meralco is not really a bad team though, so they can give Ginebra a big problem and we saw it because when the Ginebra rally, they still gas out in the 4th quarter and loss.
Look at the minutes played by 3 of the starters, this is not reasonable anymore, they are too desperate.
https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902622
Tenorio - 44:27
Pringle - 42:07
C. Stand - 40:45

They needed that win to have an advantage in the ranking, and with that loss, this is what will happen.
NorthPort grabs No. 5 spot, sends Ginebra to sudden-death vs Phoenix
The Ginebra's last chance is to beat the Phoenix, which I doubt they will as they really struggle hard.
Scottie Thompson is a big loss to the team and I guess he won't be back soon.

That's good that they still have a chance, but even if they will win against the Phoenix, I think they will still struggle against the top-ranking team. Not only they don't have Thompson, they also don't have Japeth Aguilar who has a Knee injury which is their most defensive player.

Yeah, I think that can't be argued with. Ginebra has lost its zest, just like the fans have for the team. They need to make some changes really quickly if they want to see some wins in near future. Whether it's about the training for about trading some players. Because gassing out in the 4th quarter is just unacceptable from the players of this caliber of a team.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 23, 2021, 07:50:55 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on September 23, 2021, 07:28:14 AM

Those who continue to believe that Ginebra is still a good team, certainly lose a lot of money already as Ginebra keeps losing. Meralco is not really a bad team though, so they can give Ginebra a big problem and we saw it because when the Ginebra rally, they still gas out in the 4th quarter and loss.

Look at the minutes played by 3 of the starters, this is not reasonable anymore, they are too desperate.

https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902622

Tenorio - 44:27
Pringle - 42:07
C. Stand - 40:45

They needed that win to have an advantage in the ranking, and with that loss, this is what will happen.

NorthPort grabs No. 5 spot, sends Ginebra to sudden-death vs Phoenix

The Ginebra's last chance is to beat the Phoenix, which I doubt they will as they really struggle hard.
Scottie Thompson is a big loss to the team and I guess he won't be back soon.

That's good that they still have a chance, but even if they will win against the Phoenix, I think they will still struggle against the top-ranking team. Not only they don't have Thompson, they also don't have Japeth Aguilar who has a Knee injury which is their most defensive player.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 23, 2021, 07:28:14 AM

Those who continue to believe that Ginebra is still a good team, certainly lose a lot of money already as Ginebra keeps losing. Meralco is not really a bad team though, so they can give Ginebra a big problem and we saw it because when the Ginebra rally, they still gas out in the 4th quarter and loss.

Look at the minutes played by 3 of the starters, this is not reasonable anymore, they are too desperate.

https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902622

Tenorio - 44:27
Pringle - 42:07
C. Stand - 40:45

They needed that win to have an advantage in the ranking, and with that loss, this is what will happen.

NorthPort grabs No. 5 spot, sends Ginebra to sudden-death vs Phoenix

The Ginebra's last chance is to beat the Phoenix, which I doubt they will as they really struggle hard.
Scottie Thompson is a big loss to the team and I guess he won't be back soon.

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Those who continue to believe that Ginebra is still a good team, certainly lose a lot of money already as Ginebra keeps losing. Meralco is not really a bad team though, so they can give Ginebra a big problem and we saw it because when the Ginebra rally, they still gas out in the 4th quarter and loss.

Look at the minutes played by 3 of the starters, this is not reasonable anymore, they are too desperate.

https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902622

Tenorio - 44:27
Pringle - 42:07
C. Stand - 40:45

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Winding down.

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 23, 2021, 05:24:08 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 23, 2021, 02:54:05 AM

Sorry I was wrong with the odds, I check my bet and it's only 5.25, but still thankful as it's a win. Good start today, I will still bet on the next game and I think it's going to be a close one.

here's my bet slip.

Congrats mate, that's a big win for you. TBH, I don't have the courage to bet on that kind of a market, I'd rather bet on ML than that one.

Bookies were blinded on this game, why they put Ginebra the favorites while the team struggles to win and to think Bolts is on the top of the standings.

They think that Ginebra is the same and they will come back. Ginebra is on consecutive loses, the chemistry problem is pretty evident and it's good for us since we win every time we bet against them.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 23, 2021, 02:54:05 AM

I'm just curious now on what the future hold for the Gin Kings after this awful conference which on paper they are a very strong contender for the trophy.

Sometimes I put a bet on that kind of market, but just a little amount, an amount that I could let go easily.
High risk, high reward it is.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 23, 2021, 02:54:05 AM

Sorry I was wrong with the odds, I check my bet and it's only 5.25, but still thankful as it's a win. Good start today, I will still bet on the next game and I think it's going to be a close one.

here's my bet slip.

Congrats mate, that's a big win for you. TBH, I don't have the courage to bet on that kind of a market, I'd rather bet on ML than that one.

Bookies were blinded on this game, why they put Ginebra the favorites while the team struggles to win and to think Bolts is on the top of the standings.

I'm just curious now on what the future hold for the Gin Kings after this awful conference which on paper they are a very strong contender for the trophy.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 23, 2021, 01:40:14 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 23, 2021, 01:05:27 AM

The first game today between Ginebra and Meralco has already started, I'm betting on the Meralco to win as I have a feeling that Ginebra will continue to struggle, they are not a sister team, so no rig in this game, lol.

I got them at live bet at 2.2 for ML and 5.75 for winning 11+.. who knows, right?

Good luck on that wonderful bet of yours, Meralco now is already leading 40-26 is the current score and it looks like they will get a blowout win this game. you will win the ML (90% probably) and a bonus of x5.75 (50%) IMO, so congratulations in advance.

Edit - looks like I'm wrong, only 4 points lead by Meralco now and we are in the 4th quarter already.

Sorry I was wrong with the odds, I check my bet and it's only 5.25, but still thankful as it's a win. Good start today, I will still bet on the next game and I think it's going to be a close one.

here's my bet slip.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 23, 2021, 01:40:14 AM

Edit - looks like I'm wrong, only 4 points lead by Meralco now and we are in the 4th quarter already.

And back again, they now lead by double digits. lol

Quote from: Maasdamer on September 23, 2021, 02:34:27 AM

The PBD is and will always be the biggest scam league world wide. Its amazing what happens here week after week and season after season.

Teams dominating games and then for no reason dont score for 8 minutes and get a 0:15 run, or even more.

Just now again. Bolts score 8 points in the 3rd quarter after scoring 23 and 24 before and suddenly now they score 8 points in the first 3min of the 4th.

Rigged as fuck and an insult to the game of basketball.

I always believe that this is rig but it never loses my love on the league. I'm a bettor as well so it's really important for me to see them playing so I could bet. It's an advantage on your part if you believe which side would win because of the rig, so it's okay if it's a corrupt league, besides they are here for many years already.

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