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Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.

What a coincidence, I was just browsing on newsfeed and the news came out from One Sports about this contract review. When they're not working well and they keep on losing, there's really a major thing that they have to change and now is the right time for them to review each contract and revamping the team. If they want to prolong this franchise and make it worthy, they should really need to make a lot of changes, from the coaching staff, players and almost everything to see if there's going to be a sudden change.

No offense from the team owner, but if they wanted to make a good change it should be the players that they needed to revamp.

Even you have coach Tim or Coach Chot, with the squad you have from your roster,
it's impossible to make any miracle wining a single game,

there's none who are willing to step up, sorry for the word but all those players are
not the type of players who are willing to step up and bring to the competition to a good level,
they are just there to play, win or lose they are okay with the paycheck.

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Quote from: harizen on September 20, 2021, 06:29:24 PM

Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.

What a coincidence, I was just browsing on newsfeed and the news came out from One Sports about this contract review. When they're not working well and they keep on losing, there's really a major thing that they have to change and now is the right time for them to review each contract and revamping the team. If they want to prolong this franchise and make it worthy, they should really need to make a lot of changes, from the coaching staff, players and almost everything to see if there's going to be a sudden change.

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Quote from: harizen on September 20, 2021, 06:29:24 PM

Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

And that streak will continue at the start of the next season. I still can't imagine how this team didn't managed to get even just 1 win. Well, maybe there is a problem internally. The management maybe? or the players themselves because they are lacking morale and focus? or even the coach for some reasons.

Quote from: harizen on September 20, 2021, 06:29:24 PM

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

If you will see the roster of the team, you can't see even one all-star caliber player on it. They are just average players that are into one team hoping to get a win and remove the current lose streak.

Quote from: harizen on September 20, 2021, 06:29:24 PM

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.

Kinda funny TBH at least on my side but its very disappointing to see them losing 19 straight games. Revamping the whole management is a good start. Getting better players will be a good start. Having a better coach will be a good start. Revamping the whole team itself might be a step towards players getting their morale boosted. If there is a problem in the team then they must fix it if they want to get wins.

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Some fans even speculate that the game was fixed because Northport is a farm team for SMC teams, lol.

That was because of the recent news that one of the SMB players is accused of being a tipster, but actually, it's not new, people already suspect that this league is rig.

I read the article, and there have been some screenshots of exchange messages by the accused and the one who accused. However, it seems like the PBA is not so interested in investigating it as in the first place, the accused has denied the accusation, and it does not help for the image of the PBA if they will prove the accusation to be true.

The accused always denies don't they? But PBA also has their reasons for not digging deeper in this matter. But people are not stupid. They know almost certainly what's going on. But the main thing is people choose to forget most of the things through time. The same thing will happen here. Though people are not sure, they know. Screenshots can be fake but what about the message exchanges?

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Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.

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We can't blame fans to speculate that way knowing how crucial the game is but they decide to take Greg out of the game which we know can contribute more bigger than to the player who replace him at that time, but since it already happens and they made an adjustment well that's fine and good thing there last game comes with good result since if not they will get more disappointment from the fans and might many will lose interest to them.

It's already done though and they have redeemed themselves already. I guess a mistake like that is also being used for them to be better with their next games.
It's also they have to take and there's no need to prolong that last few seconds of game play. For sure if they've made another mistake, they will be called out again by their fans. The difference today is because there's social media and mistakes like that will spread quickly.

The wide spread by the help of social media really plays a big role, but as professionals they already learned and move on from that mistake, fans are likely trying to prolong that case to keep reminding the coaching staff not to make another same mistake.

NP is now in a good shape, they comeback and this time they take the win, what we've seen from that game is coach Pido is willing to
adjust, a good sign that he wanted to win and be more competitive.

We would see more good and quality games from NP as Gregzilla is showing that he missed the league, and he's bringing what he was expected since joining PBA. Late but still good if they manage to keep improving the stats of the whole team.

Yup, what's done is already done and they're moving forward to their next match. Many made fun of coach Pido with that mistake and now he has done good and many have taken back what they've said to coach Pido.
It's not still that crucial for the game and there are games to play with and they don't think about it anymore and for sure that they'll be better with the next matches they have.

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Quote from: ultrloa on September 20, 2021, 05:12:37 PM

We can't blame fans to speculate that way knowing how crucial the game is but they decide to take Greg out of the game which we know can contribute more bigger than to the player who replace him at that time, but since it already happens and they made an adjustment well that's fine and good thing there last game comes with good result since if not they will get more disappointment from the fans and might many will lose interest to them.

It's already done though and they have redeemed themselves already. I guess a mistake like that is also being used for them to be better with their next games.
It's also they have to take and there's no need to prolong that last few seconds of game play. For sure if they've made another mistake, they will be called out again by their fans. The difference today is because there's social media and mistakes like that will spread quickly.

The wide spread by the help of social media really plays a big role, but as professionals they already learned and move on from that mistake, fans are likely trying to prolong that case to keep reminding the coaching staff not to make another same mistake.

NP is now in a good shape, they comeback and this time they take the win, what we've seen from that game is coach Pido is willing to
adjust, a good sign that he wanted to win and be more competitive.

We would see more good and quality games from NP as Gregzilla is showing that he missed the league, and he's bringing what he was expected since joining PBA. Late but still good if they manage to keep improving the stats of the whole team.

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Quote from: ultrloa on September 20, 2021, 05:12:37 PM

We can't blame fans to speculate that way knowing how crucial the game is but they decide to take Greg out of the game which we know can contribute more bigger than to the player who replace him at that time, but since it already happens and they made an adjustment well that's fine and good thing there last game comes with good result since if not they will get more disappointment from the fans and might many will lose interest to them.

It's already done though and they have redeemed themselves already. I guess a mistake like that is also being used for them to be better with their next games.
It's also they have to take and there's no need to prolong that last few seconds of game play. For sure if they've made another mistake, they will be called out again by their fans. The difference today is because there's social media and mistakes like that will spread quickly.

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By the way, anyone knows is there a betting site offering PBA futures or outright betting? Even a fiat bookies will do.

I will check for you mate, I guess I saw a post before about a local fiat bookie in the Philippines that offers a PBA future. For now, since we are mostly focused on crypto sportsbooks, what odds they'll display are only available, PBA is not like NBA which is a big market, so we have to just enjoy what we can get now.

The playoffs is in the air, much excitement will be seen for sure as we don't know yet if after this they would resume immediately.

You are correct that PBA is not a big market compare to NBA and no way they will. But I'm expecting some local fiat bookies here will offer betting futures since that's what "local" betting is served for so they should cover that betting option.

I tried asking my close one as he is an agent of PN**** but find no options for the PBA future. I didn't mention the site as it has a bad reputation here although I don't understand as that platform is considered a legit one here in our place and running for years now if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks for the effort mate.

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Greg got a boost and as well as coach Pido for winning their game against ROS. Well, the last game was really controversial when coach Pido decided to let Greg out with just a 2 second remaining. That time remaining was longer than it can ever be.
Many still can't be moved on with that match but with this win that they've just took forgotten that mistake and certain win but was stolen by the last-second minute pass and play.

Greg was furious about why he was taken out, they could have won that game if he was inside. This time, they proven that coach Pido's decision was wrong because he had a game-winning block in this game and not only that, he also registered good stats making him the best player in the game.

Greg has proven himself to be one of the most valuable players in the PBA, he is playing very well to tell the Kings that they made a decision trading him to Northport, I hope Greg is loving where he is now as he is making a big impact to the team and suddenly, Northport has become an interesting team to watch. I guess today they'll have a break, no scheduled games today per https://pba.ph/.

Monster Gregzilla! Northport bounce back after an issue that results in their loss recently. Greg since the start of the conference doesn't show any signs that he is not comfortable with his team. He found the chemistry right away compare to Standhardinger in Ginebra.

But his monster performance should always be backed up by his teammates. Having a big man in the league is important and Northport is one of the team that has it. They need to utilized other player to support Greg.

It could be the 2nd block of Greg if he was not pulled out in their game against the Magnolia Hotspots, but lesson learned, I'm sure coach Pido will not pull him out anymore and will let him play until the game is over. The fans now appreciate how valuable Greg is, with Northport, his talent is very obvious compared to playing with the Ginebra which he does not have a good statistics, that's why he got traded.

Many fans got dissapointed on that substitution since he can change the game by his pressence inside the court but unfortunately their coach pull him out thats why we see an unfortunate result to them. Fans know how valuable he is inside the paint the only thing he needs is to be utilize and get more minutes so that he can produce more quality performance in the game.

Some fans even speculate that the game was fixed because Northport is a farm team for SMC teams, lol.

Anyway, it's already over, coach Pido and Greg already corrected their mistake by winning a crucial game and Greg was the hero in that game. Hopefully, they will continue to win so this Northport will have a great conference with the help of Greg Slaughter.

We can't blame fans to speculate that way knowing how crucial the game is but they decide to take Greg out of the game which we know can contribute more bigger than to the player who replace him at that time, but since it already happens and they made an adjustment well that's fine and good thing there last game comes with good result since if not they will get more disappointment from the fans and might many will lose interest to them.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 20, 2021, 04:53:15 PM

By the way, anyone knows is there a betting site offering PBA futures or outright betting? Even a fiat bookies will do.

I will check for you mate, I guess I saw a post before about a local fiat bookie in the Philippines that offers a PBA future. For now, since we are mostly focused on crypto sportsbooks, what odds they'll display are only available, PBA is not like NBA which is a big market, so we have to just enjoy what we can get now.

The playoffs is in the air, much excitement will be seen for sure as we don't know yet if after this they would resume immediately.

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Just kidding guys, but I see him improve a lot. The training that he takes last year might give him more confidence, see him moving a lot and creating space for himself makes him a valuable asset for Northport. Just keep him and Bolick then surround them with more role players, they got now a competitive squad.

Slaughter's improvement started when he is traded by Ginebra. Maybe that situation turned him into a much better physically and mentally. It's obvious he doesn't want to be traded and reach Alfrancis Chua for him to give a chance. After giving him a chance, he was traded. Slaughter even thinks of it as a rumors only but turned into reality.

When they faced off with Ginebra this conference, he was pumped up like he's still in his prime. His team has a chance to compete in the championship now that 2 SMC teams have a problem right now, Ginebra - inconsistent and SMB - injuries.

I guess I will not miss the opportunity to put my bet on this team every time, as they are here to compete and they can beat any team. They are in a good position now to compete as their ranking though not so impressive but compared to the previous bubble, they have some huge improvement already, and Bollick is healthy, so it's another big thing.

And expect NorthPort to always have good odds. They are mostly underdogs and provided with good and high odds this conference. They just need to maintain their healthy lineup and at the same time, their backup should be consistent. Quarterfinals is a different game. Most teams are now at their 100% playing because every win matters especially facing an under a twice-to-beat disadvantage.

They almost beat the most complete SMC team right now which is Magnolia. They can still do it as long as their main scorer, Bolick is healthy and Slaughter will maintain his consistent performance inside the paint whether it's offense and defense. Time also for their bench players to step up and try to change the phase of the PBA where popular teams are the only ones entering the Semis and Finals.

By the way, anyone knows is there a betting site offering PBA futures or outright betting? Even a fiat bookies will do.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 20, 2021, 03:48:49 PM

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 19, 2021, 07:14:37 PM

Just kidding guys, but I see him improve a lot. The training that he takes last year might give him more confidence, see him moving a lot and creating space for himself makes him a valuable asset for Northport. Just keep him and Bolick then surround them with more role players, they got now a competitive squad.

Slaughter's improvement started when he is traded by Ginebra. Maybe that situation turned him into a much better physically and mentally. It's obvious he doesn't want to be traded and reach Alfrancis Chua for him to give a chance. After giving him a chance, he was traded. Slaughter even thinks of it as a rumors only but turned into reality.

When they faced off with Ginebra this conference, he was pumped up like he's still in his prime. His team has a chance to compete in the championship now that 2 SMC teams have a problem right now, Ginebra - inconsistent and SMB - injuries.

I guess I will not miss the opportunity to put my bet on this team every time, as they are here to compete and they can beat any team. They are in a good position now to compete as their ranking though not so impressive but compared to the previous bubble, they have some huge improvement already, and Bollick is healthy, so it's another big thing.

Good decision mate, Northport is still an underrated team despite their success in this season so far. It's best if you can put a bet on them when they play a higher seed team like SMB, TNT, Meralco, and Magnolia, for sure Northport will be the underdog, so it will give the best value of your money, especially if you win. If only bookies has player props market, it would be nice to bet on Greg as well.

Ride with the hottest team with good betting odds, currently, although TNT is the hottest team in the PBA if they will only be a heavy favorite every time they play, there's no sense of backing them as you will not get a decent return, and you are at risk of losing as fix game is possible. Sometimes, it's not only looking at a team whether they are good or not, we also have to look at the situation especially if sister teams are playing.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on September 20, 2021, 03:37:05 PM

Quote from: agustina2 on September 20, 2021, 03:34:58 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 19, 2021, 07:14:37 PM

Just kidding guys, but I see him improve a lot. The training that he takes last year might give him more confidence, see him moving a lot and creating space for himself makes him a valuable asset for Northport. Just keep him and Bolick then surround them with more role players, they got now a competitive squad.

Slaughter's improvement started when he is traded by Ginebra. Maybe that situation turned him into a much better physically and mentally. It's obvious he doesn't want to be traded and reach Alfrancis Chua for him to give a chance. After giving him a chance, he was traded. Slaughter even thinks of it as a rumors only but turned into reality.

When they faced off with Ginebra this conference, he was pumped up like he's still in his prime. His team has a chance to compete in the championship now that 2 SMC teams have a problem right now, Ginebra - inconsistent and SMB - injuries.

I guess I will not miss the opportunity to put my bet on this team every time, as they are here to compete and they can beat any team. They are in a good position now to compete as their ranking though not so impressive but compared to the previous bubble, they have some huge improvement already, and Bollick is healthy, so it's another big thing.

Good decision mate, Northport is still an underrated team despite their success in this season so far. It's best if you can put a bet on them when they play a higher seed team like SMB, TNT, Meralco, and Magnolia, for sure Northport will be the underdog, so it will give the best value of your money, especially if you win. If only bookies has player props market, it would be nice to bet on Greg as well.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 20, 2021, 03:34:58 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 19, 2021, 07:14:37 PM

Just kidding guys, but I see him improve a lot. The training that he takes last year might give him more confidence, see him moving a lot and creating space for himself makes him a valuable asset for Northport. Just keep him and Bolick then surround them with more role players, they got now a competitive squad.

Slaughter's improvement started when he is traded by Ginebra. Maybe that situation turned him into a much better physically and mentally. It's obvious he doesn't want to be traded and reach Alfrancis Chua for him to give a chance. After giving him a chance, he was traded. Slaughter even thinks of it as a rumors only but turned into reality.

When they faced off with Ginebra this conference, he was pumped up like he's still in his prime. His team has a chance to compete in the championship now that 2 SMC teams have a problem right now, Ginebra - inconsistent and SMB - injuries.

I guess I will not miss the opportunity to put my bet on this team every time, as they are here to compete and they can beat any team. They are in a good position now to compete as their ranking though not so impressive but compared to the previous bubble, they have some huge improvement already, and Bollick is healthy, so it's another big thing.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 19, 2021, 07:14:37 PM

Just kidding guys, but I see him improve a lot. The training that he takes last year might give him more confidence, see him moving a lot and creating space for himself makes him a valuable asset for Northport. Just keep him and Bolick then surround them with more role players, they got now a competitive squad.

Slaughter's improvement started when he is traded by Ginebra. Maybe that situation turned him into a much better physically and mentally. It's obvious he doesn't want to be traded and reach Alfrancis Chua for him to give a chance. After giving him a chance, he was traded. Slaughter even thinks of it as a rumors only but turned into reality.

When they faced off with Ginebra this conference, he was pumped up like he's still in his prime. His team has a chance to compete in the championship now that 2 SMC teams have a problem right now, Ginebra - inconsistent and SMB - injuries.

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We saw the chemistry, everyone is playing according to their rule and it's good that Greg has no one to compete within the team as there are no other bigs that are better than him. It's his time to showcase his real talent, but I'm afraid that if big teams see the NP being successful, Greg might be traded again as they want to take another opportunity to win a championship.

After what happened with Romeo and Pringle duo, I agree that if big company sees the value of Greg, offers will flow.

It's a rumor that NP is a farm team of SMC, so it's not hard for SMB to pick him up,
what if they paired him with JMF twin towers who know how to play ball with shooters like Romeo and Lassiter and good point guard as Ross,

this is just a what if and most of the time they really make things happen when they propose something.

That's probably redundant of position and I don't think their salary cap could still afford to sign Greg to their team. SMC has a lot of teams in the NBA, they also have Magnolia I guess, so maybe getting Greg to sign in this team would be awesome since Reavis is old and not anymore playing like he used to.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 20, 2021, 03:03:11 PM

We saw the chemistry, everyone is playing according to their rule and it's good that Greg has no one to compete within the team as there are no other bigs that are better than him. It's his time to showcase his real talent, but I'm afraid that if big teams see the NP being successful, Greg might be traded again as they want to take another opportunity to win a championship.

After what happened with Romeo and Pringle duo, I agree that if big company sees the value of Greg, offers will flow.

It's a rumor that NP is a farm team of SMC, so it's not hard for SMB to pick him up,
what if they paired him with JMF twin towers who know how to play ball with shooters like Romeo and Lassiter and good point guard as Ross,

this is just a what if and most of the time they really make things happen when they propose something.

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Quote from: Viscore on September 20, 2021, 07:50:57 AM

Some fans even speculate that the game was fixed because Northport is a farm team for SMC teams, lol.

Anyway, it's already over, coach Pido and Greg already corrected their mistake by winning a crucial game and Greg was the hero in that game. Hopefully, they will continue to win so this Northport will have a great conference with the help of Greg Slaughter.

A very good comeback from Greg instead of keep frustrating himself due to that mistake from coach Pido.

He shows value with his presence and Northport coach did a very good adjustment after that lost from magnolia. If coach knows
how to adjust and knows how to admit mistake, there's a good future for this team. They are now more balance as role players
are helping Bolick and Slaughter.

They might have a hard competition from this bubble but the chance to keep improving always start with good chemistry
inside the team.

We saw the chemistry, everyone is playing according to their rule and it's good that Greg has no one to compete within the team as there are no other bigs that are better than him. It's his time to showcase his real talent, but I'm afraid that if big teams see the NP being successful, Greg might be traded again as they want to take another opportunity to win a championship.

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Quote from: Viscore on September 20, 2021, 07:50:57 AM

Some fans even speculate that the game was fixed because Northport is a farm team for SMC teams, lol.

Anyway, it's already over, coach Pido and Greg already corrected their mistake by winning a crucial game and Greg was the hero in that game. Hopefully, they will continue to win so this Northport will have a great conference with the help of Greg Slaughter.

A very good comeback from Greg instead of keep frustrating himself due to that mistake from coach Pido.

He shows value with his presence and Northport coach did a very good adjustment after that lost from magnolia. If coach knows
how to adjust and knows how to admit mistake, there's a good future for this team. They are now more balance as role players
are helping Bolick and Slaughter.

They might have a hard competition from this bubble but the chance to keep improving always start with good chemistry
inside the team.

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