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Quote from: Russlenat on September 18, 2021, 03:58:59 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 18, 2021, 02:27:38 PM

By the way, we have 3 games today, I like to hear your thoughts on the upcoming games.

Here are the betting games and the betting odds.

2:00 pm - ROS (1.80) vs NP (1.90)
4:25 pm - Hotshots (2.21) vs SMB (1.65)
7:00 pm - DYIP (3.70) vs ACES (1.27)

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

I'm betting on the following teams to win, ROS ML, Hotshots spread, and DYIP spread.

We have 3 games today, it should be a good Sunday, so I'm also thinking of putting a parlay on the ML, just for fun, I'll throw a little as 4 USD in this bet.

Moneyline - ROS+HOTSHOTS+DYIP, that's a total of 14.7186 or equivalent to 58.8744 USD if that hits.

Very possible since news spread that Terrence Romeo went back to manila to examine his injury,

One big factor for the SMB rally, unless CJ will take his shoe and start to comes up with a big game today, maybe is time for him to ball hog.

ROS and DYIP are both unpredictable teams, they are winning when less expecting them to win,

A very interesting parlay if you managed to win that out. More beers for sure!

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 18, 2021, 04:56:08 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on September 18, 2021, 03:58:59 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 18, 2021, 02:27:38 PM

By the way, we have 3 games today, I like to hear your thoughts on the upcoming games.

Here are the betting games and the betting odds.

2:00 pm - ROS (1.80) vs NP (1.90)
4:25 pm - Hotshots (2.21) vs SMB (1.65)
7:00 pm - DYIP (3.70) vs ACES (1.27)

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

I'm betting on the following teams to win, ROS ML, Hotshots spread, and DYIP spread.

We have 3 games today, it should be a good Sunday, so I'm also thinking of putting a parlay on the ML, just for fun, I'll throw a little as 4 USD in this bet.

Moneyline - ROS+HOTSHOTS+DYIP, that's a total of 14.7186 or equivalent to 58.8744 USD if that hits.

I like the ROS and Hotshots but I don't think DYIP could still win against the Aces who just recently beat the Ginebra San Miguel, so I would skip that bet and will just look at the 2 that I mentioned. Hotshots almost lost against the NP too, so that's something to consider since they are not winning games in a good margin when the bubble return, IIRC, they were unbeaten when the conference was not interrupted yet, while SMB has been winning games easily when the conference resume.

DYIP has a chance on the Alaska ACES as they also beat Ginebra too. Not just that, ACES will play today for 3 days straight now unlike Terrafirma who is resting since the 16th. I hope the Alaska ACES will still be on their full 100% even they have a tiring game this week.

I'm not rooting for DYIP to win but I take the 3 days straight game of ACES as a disadvantage. A back-to-back game is already tiring so what's more for 3 days straight.

BlackWater Bossing is now 0-11 on the standing after the loss against Meralco. The worst in the history of the league.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 18, 2021, 03:58:59 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 18, 2021, 02:27:38 PM

By the way, we have 3 games today, I like to hear your thoughts on the upcoming games.

Here are the betting games and the betting odds.

2:00 pm - ROS (1.80) vs NP (1.90)
4:25 pm - Hotshots (2.21) vs SMB (1.65)
7:00 pm - DYIP (3.70) vs ACES (1.27)

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

I'm betting on the following teams to win, ROS ML, Hotshots spread, and DYIP spread.

We have 3 games today, it should be a good Sunday, so I'm also thinking of putting a parlay on the ML, just for fun, I'll throw a little as 4 USD in this bet.

Moneyline - ROS+HOTSHOTS+DYIP, that's a total of 14.7186 or equivalent to 58.8744 USD if that hits.

I like the ROS and Hotshots but I don't think DYIP could still win against the Aces who just recently beat the Ginebra San Miguel, so I would skip that bet and will just look at the 2 that I mentioned. Hotshots almost lost against the NP too, so that's something to consider since they are not winning games in a good margin when the bubble return, IIRC, they were unbeaten when the conference was not interrupted yet, while SMB has been winning games easily when the conference resume.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 18, 2021, 02:27:38 PM

By the way, we have 3 games today, I like to hear your thoughts on the upcoming games.

Here are the betting games and the betting odds.

2:00 pm - ROS (1.80) vs NP (1.90)
4:25 pm - Hotshots (2.21) vs SMB (1.65)
7:00 pm - DYIP (3.70) vs ACES (1.27)

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

I'm betting on the following teams to win, ROS ML, Hotshots spread, and DYIP spread.

We have 3 games today, it should be a good Sunday, so I'm also thinking of putting a parlay on the ML, just for fun, I'll throw a little as 4 USD in this bet.

Moneyline - ROS+HOTSHOTS+DYIP, that's a total of 14.7186 or equivalent to 58.8744 USD if that hits.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 18, 2021, 09:20:22 AM

Quote from: harizen on September 18, 2021, 01:19:44 AM

We are just discussing things mate, healthy discussion. Part of an active and healthy thread.

Moving forward to the next game, Alaska has 3 days straight schedule which starts yesterday. They are always hit with delayed schedules so it turned out like that.

I fully understand mate and I agree, thanks for bringing your opinion. I hope by expressing mind did not offend you or anyone who's reading this thread. My bad comparing coach Pido with some small time coaches knowing his achievements from being a player up to know, his knowledge is for sure better than those inter brgy coaches.

So moving forward,.

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In my mind, I'm rooting for the Bolts -14.5 but have pushed the opposite button instead Sad

. So Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 for me in the first game.

Bolts -14.5? Bookies really looked down at the Blackwater right now lol.

That team is really at their worst. I agree that Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 is a good bet but on the other hand, can't resist to bet on -14.5 Bolts too as I think they can handle it. But either of these bet, still better compare risking money on Blackwater @7.5. I don't see this team making a single win. They are not good even their opponent is struggling.

I also have the same opinion, I don't see anything with Blackwater as I stated the game before this team already messing up and that odd from the bookies express it all, the pressure from people who loves to gamble indicates that they are not buying any alluring offered last time it's a +13.5 and now they add up since Bolts is more offensive than NLEX.

Good luck to all of you, going to pass for this first game.

It's a lucky mistake for me since I betted for the Blackwater Bossing lol. Yeah, chances are they might not win any ballgame this conference and they are the record holder as of now for consecutive losses. They are now locked to get the number one pick next rookie draft, hope they can find someone to help them win games and not sell to MVP companies.

What the hell! A very lucky mistake, I didn't watch the game, just check the recap and see the score. Oh well, they managed to
Close lesser than 10 points deficit. Congrats again bisdak40!

bisdak40 seems very profitable in the bubble. Grin

.. congrats to you bro.

By the way, we have 3 games today, I like to hear your thoughts on the upcoming games.

Here are the betting games and the betting odds.

2:00 pm - ROS (1.80) vs NP (1.90)
4:25 pm - Hotshots (2.21) vs SMB (1.65)
7:00 pm - DYIP (3.70) vs ACES (1.27)

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

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Quote from: harizen on September 18, 2021, 01:19:44 AM

We are just discussing things mate, healthy discussion. Part of an active and healthy thread.

Moving forward to the next game, Alaska has 3 days straight schedule which starts yesterday. They are always hit with delayed schedules so it turned out like that.

I fully understand mate and I agree, thanks for bringing your opinion. I hope by expressing mind did not offend you or anyone who's reading this thread. My bad comparing coach Pido with some small time coaches knowing his achievements from being a player up to know, his knowledge is for sure better than those inter brgy coaches.

So moving forward,.

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In my mind, I'm rooting for the Bolts -14.5 but have pushed the opposite button instead Sad

. So Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 for me in the first game.

Bolts -14.5? Bookies really looked down at the Blackwater right now lol.

That team is really at their worst. I agree that Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 is a good bet but on the other hand, can't resist to bet on -14.5 Bolts too as I think they can handle it. But either of these bet, still better compare risking money on Blackwater @7.5. I don't see this team making a single win. They are not good even their opponent is struggling.

I also have the same opinion, I don't see anything with Blackwater as I stated the game before this team already messing up and that odd from the bookies express it all, the pressure from people who loves to gamble indicates that they are not buying any alluring offered last time it's a +13.5 and now they add up since Bolts is more offensive than NLEX.

Good luck to all of you, going to pass for this first game.

It's a lucky mistake for me since I betted for the Blackwater Bossing lol. Yeah, chances are they might not win any ballgame this conference and they are the record holder as of now for consecutive losses. They are now locked to get the number one pick next rookie draft, hope they can find someone to help them win games and not sell to MVP companies.

What the hell! A very lucky mistake, I didn't watch the game, just check the recap and see the score. Oh well, they managed to
Close lesser than 10 points deficit. Congrats again bisdak40!

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 18, 2021, 03:48:06 AM

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In my mind, I'm rooting for the Bolts -14.5 but have pushed the opposite button instead Sad

. So Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 for me in the first game.

Bolts -14.5? Bookies really looked down at the Blackwater right now lol.

That team is really at their worst. I agree that Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 is a good bet but on the other hand, can't resist to bet on -14.5 Bolts too as I think they can handle it. But either of these bet, still better compare risking money on Blackwater @7.5. I don't see this team making a single win. They are not good even their opponent is struggling.

I also have the same opinion, I don't see anything with Blackwater as I stated the game before this team already messing up and that odd from the bookies express it all, the pressure from people who loves to gamble indicates that they are not buying any alluring offered last time it's a +13.5 and now they add up since Bolts is more offensive than NLEX.

Good luck to all of you, going to pass for this first game.

It's a lucky mistake for me since I betted for the Blackwater Bossing lol. Yeah, chances are they might not win any ballgame this conference and they are the record holder as of now for consecutive losses. They are now locked to get the number one pick next rookie draft, hope they can find someone to help them win games and not sell to MVP companies.

That was nice, I saw you last time that you bet on the team that is playing against the Blackwater and you cover the spread. Though they lose in this game, it was still nice because they only lost by a single digit, and maybe those who bet on the Blackwater ML had a little excitement as they were able to make it a close game.

Those who risked their money and put their bet on Blackwater are happy right now and with the lost of the BW, they are now holding the record of most number of consecutive losses with 19.

This just shows the lack of interest of the team itself. I just hope that Coach Nash Racela's reputation will not be affected with this 0-11 record by the Blackwater. I don't know what to say but a complete disappointment as a team. I also think that this franchise will be sold to another company and they may rebuild on it. They are holding a record but a negative one xD. Good luck to them this off-season.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 18, 2021, 06:35:02 AM

What team do you think will win this conference?

I like SMB to be honest because Romeo is my idol, but I cannot close my eyes on how well the TNT is doing now.
Therefore, I would change my prediction and I believe that TNT will win it all.

what's your prediction gamblers?

Romeo with his performance right now, I think his aiming for another MVP finals.

TNT is really performing well, no doubt as to how we seen them playing and from the standing right now. But to complete their resume,
they need to keep on winning up to the finals, for sure that's the intention why coach Chot is there.

With the Blurr's remaining year/s, they will do everything to win one before his pending retirement happened.

They've got the twice to beat advantage now, step by step. Maybe yes they'll win the conference.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 18, 2021, 06:35:02 AM

What team do you think will win this conference?

I like SMB to be honest because Romeo is my idol, but I cannot close my eyes on how well the TNT is doing now.
Therefore, I would change my prediction and I believe that TNT will win it all.

what's your prediction gamblers?

I like the TNT but I like the SMB more. I know TNT has a lot of scorers now, they already have Williams who is so consistent in his past few games, but I think the problem that the TNT has to solve is on how they will be able to stop the Kraken.

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What team do you think will win this conference?

I like SMB to be honest because Romeo is my idol, but I cannot close my eyes on how well the TNT is doing now.
Therefore, I would change my prediction and I believe that TNT will win it all.

what's your prediction gamblers?

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In my mind, I'm rooting for the Bolts -14.5 but have pushed the opposite button instead Sad

. So Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 for me in the first game.

Bolts -14.5? Bookies really looked down at the Blackwater right now lol.

That team is really at their worst. I agree that Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 is a good bet but on the other hand, can't resist to bet on -14.5 Bolts too as I think they can handle it. But either of these bet, still better compare risking money on Blackwater @7.5. I don't see this team making a single win. They are not good even their opponent is struggling.

I also have the same opinion, I don't see anything with Blackwater as I stated the game before this team already messing up and that odd from the bookies express it all, the pressure from people who loves to gamble indicates that they are not buying any alluring offered last time it's a +13.5 and now they add up since Bolts is more offensive than NLEX.

Good luck to all of you, going to pass for this first game.

It's a lucky mistake for me since I betted for the Blackwater Bossing lol. Yeah, chances are they might not win any ballgame this conference and they are the record holder as of now for consecutive losses. They are now locked to get the number one pick next rookie draft, hope they can find someone to help them win games and not sell to MVP companies.

That was nice, I saw you last time that you bet on the team that is playing against the Blackwater and you cover the spread. Though they lose in this game, it was still nice because they only lost by a single digit, and maybe those who bet on the Blackwater ML had a little excitement as they were able to make it a close game.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 17, 2021, 11:20:06 PM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 17, 2021, 07:20:10 PM

In my mind, I'm rooting for the Bolts -14.5 but have pushed the opposite button instead Sad

. So Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 for me in the first game.

Bolts -14.5? Bookies really looked down at the Blackwater right now lol.

That team is really at their worst. I agree that Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 is a good bet but on the other hand, can't resist to bet on -14.5 Bolts too as I think they can handle it. But either of these bet, still better compare risking money on Blackwater @7.5. I don't see this team making a single win. They are not good even their opponent is struggling.

I also have the same opinion, I don't see anything with Blackwater as I stated the game before this team already messing up and that odd from the bookies express it all, the pressure from people who loves to gamble indicates that they are not buying any alluring offered last time it's a +13.5 and now they add up since Bolts is more offensive than NLEX.

Good luck to all of you, going to pass for this first game.

It's a lucky mistake for me since I betted for the Blackwater Bossing lol. Yeah, chances are they might not win any ballgame this conference and they are the record holder as of now for consecutive losses. They are now locked to get the number one pick next rookie draft, hope they can find someone to help them win games and not sell to MVP companies.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 17, 2021, 11:20:06 PM

Quote from: harizen on September 17, 2021, 05:20:38 PM

It depends on the situation. Pido's decision is good for me. It's just that Abueva hit the shot. If Abueva was able to shot it without defense then we can blame the coach. A coach removes big man in some cases in defense when there are only a few seconds on the clock or something that the opposing team might do a catch and shoot. On that play, I see an 80% chance that the last shot was a jump shot. Abueva just keeps running to stay away at his defense so he made an opening.

Well, Pido's take the blame so move on now on that part. That was a nice play on Abueva.

Is more harder if Gregg is there for sure, I just express of my opinion if in your side you don't see any problem I don't either, and if you read my last statement I just said that nothing will be changed as things already happened and the winning shot of Abueva already counts.

Moving forward and to the next game and better luck and learned from such mistake.

Just pointing out the comment you made on Coach Pido that degrades his position as a professional head coach that's why I explained his possible thoughts during that time. His decision of replacing Greg during the few seconds might be wrong to you but to compare his action which you think doesn't have a point compare to an Inter-Brgy Coach with a good mindset is not necessary as feedback even he already admit the mistakes.

We can't say that's the reason why they lose on that game since it's also like discrediting Abueva's strategy to find an open shot. Even Greg is there, Abueva can still make that shot. It's another "what if".

We are just discussing things mate, healthy discussion. Part of an active and healthy thread.

Moving forward to the next game, Alaska has 3 days straight schedule which starts yesterday. They are always hit with delayed schedules so it turned out like that.

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Quote from: harizen on September 17, 2021, 05:20:38 PM

It depends on the situation. Pido's decision is good for me. It's just that Abueva hit the shot. If Abueva was able to shot it without defense then we can blame the coach. A coach removes big man in some cases in defense when there are only a few seconds on the clock or something that the opposing team might do a catch and shoot. On that play, I see an 80% chance that the last shot was a jump shot. Abueva just keeps running to stay away at his defense so he made an opening.

Well, Pido's take the blame so move on now on that part. That was a nice play on Abueva.

Is more harder if Gregg is there for sure, I just express of my opinion if in your side you don't see any problem I don't either, and if you read my last statement I just said that nothing will be changed as things already happened and the winning shot of Abueva already counts.

Moving forward and to the next game and better luck and learned from such mistake.

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In my mind, I'm rooting for the Bolts -14.5 but have pushed the opposite button instead Sad

. So Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 for me in the first game.

Bolts -14.5? Bookies really looked down at the Blackwater right now lol.

That team is really at their worst. I agree that Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 is a good bet but on the other hand, can't resist to bet on -14.5 Bolts too as I think they can handle it. But either of these bet, still better compare risking money on Blackwater @7.5. I don't see this team making a single win. They are not good even their opponent is struggling.

I also have the same opinion, I don't see anything with Blackwater as I stated the game before this team already messing up and that odd from the bookies express it all, the pressure from people who loves to gamble indicates that they are not buying any alluring offered last time it's a +13.5 and now they add up since Bolts is more offensive than NLEX.

Good luck to all of you, going to pass for this first game.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 17, 2021, 07:20:10 PM

In my mind, I'm rooting for the Bolts -14.5 but have pushed the opposite button instead Sad

. So Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 for me in the first game.

Bolts -14.5? Bookies really looked down at the Blackwater right now lol.

That team is really at their worst. I agree that Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 is a good bet but on the other hand, can't resist to bet on -14.5 Bolts too as I think they can handle it. But either of these bet, still better compare risking money on Blackwater @7.5. I don't see this team making a single win. They are not good even their opponent is struggling.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 17, 2021, 07:04:02 PM

TNT vs Alaska later @ 4:35pm.

Like to risk some money on Alaska but it turned out the odds is not that exciting. Hope for a change later.

Against the top TNT, I'm expecting bookies will give Alaska around @4 or @5 odds. Their winning against Ginebra might have a big impact but shouldn't be the reason why Alaska only got the odds around @2.

Even if they lose to Ginebra, odds against TNT won't reach that 4-5 odds as they are not a low-tier team with regards to the line-up.

I'm rooting for the Katropa in this game as they want to finish the elimination strong which would give them confidence and morale coming into the second round.

In the first game, it is interesting to see if Blackwater would still continue to write history in the PBA as the team to have the longest losing streak.

In my mind, I'm rooting for the Bolts -14.5 but have pushed the opposite button instead Sad

. So Blackwater +14.5 @1.88 for me in the first game.

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TNT vs Alaska later @ 4:35pm.

Like to risk some money on Alaska but it turned out the odds is not that exciting. Hope for a change later.

Against the top TNT, I'm expecting bookies will give Alaska around @4 or @5 odds. Their winning against Ginebra might have a big impact but shouldn't be the reason why Alaska only got the odds around @2.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 17, 2021, 09:07:21 AM

If Gregzilla was there, they could have protected the paint, and with 2 seconds to shot, Magnolia will be forced to make a 3 point shot which is a low percentage shot in a pressure time.

That's only a "what if". The last shot of Abueva was contested and defended. Around 3-4 defend him. We can't say that Magnolia won't able to drain that clutch if Slaughter was there. See how Calvin rotates? If Slaughter is there, surely the gameplay will be change but still have a chance to take that shot.

Quote from: Fredomago on September 17, 2021, 12:22:52 PM

In time like that, I don't see any point that coach will decide to remove your big man, even an inter-brgy coach in his good mindset
knows that time is on their side. Preventing anyone inside the paint is the very priority and lets gunners to try their luck outside.

It depends on the situation. Pido's decision is good for me. It's just that Abueva hit the shot. If Abueva was able to shot it without defense then we can blame the coach. A coach removes big man in some cases in defense when there are only a few seconds on the clock or something that the opposing team might do a catch and shoot. On that play, I see an 80% chance that the last shot was a jump shot. Abueva just keeps running to stay away at his defense so he made an opening.

Well, Pido's take the blame so move on now on that part. That was a nice play on Abueva.

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How about the rigged news, is this match also is rigged? Does any player give a tip?

Not rigged IMO, Alaska was the better team, they played hard and they win big time. PERIOD!

I agree with this, Ginebra has been losing games against a quality team, and they lose again. IIRC, they only won one game when the conference resume and it's not a good sign going forward. As per standing, they are already in the number 9, and I think they will be out of the elimination if they cannot improve their standing.

https://pba.ph/standings

Ginebra is not in the same level not sure why until now they can't find the right adjustment that they need.

They keep losing and this time we see why, there's no chemistry and there's no aggressiveness to compete, Alaska in the other side do all the homework
that they needed to win the game, the rigged issue still there but not sure they will do that with the hot issue about it.

I doubt anyone will continue that, this win is a win Alaska deserve the credit.

Agree with that, Alaska deserves the credit as they are working hard to improve the team despite not having their star players already. It's a brand new team that is composed of young players who are hungry to win, and though they don't have many stars, they are still winning because they have better chemistry that lets everyone gets involve and contribute.

Let's look at the contributions of the players and compare.

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Alaska 89 - Tratter 13, Digregorio 11, Herndon 10, Ahanmisi 10, Teng 10, Brondial 9, Marcelino 8, Banal 8, Casio 6, Adamos 4, Ilagan 0, Ebona 0, Stockton 0, Publico 0, Taha 0.

Ginebra 75 - Pringle 20, Thompson 17, Standhardinger 9, Tenprio 8, Ayaay 7, Mariano 6, Devance 4, Dillinger 2, Tolentino 2, Salado 0, Caperal 0, Enriquez 0, Aguilar 0, J. Aguilar 0, Holmqvist 0.

source: https://pba.ph/news/aces-back-triumphantly-pull-off-wire-to-wire-win-over-kings

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Quote from: Beparanf on September 17, 2021, 12:36:08 PM

Maybe they are lack motivation which usually coming from there veteran player like caguiao by the time he is still playing although in the bench most of the time. It's important to boost player morale on every crucial or else they will not get synchronised and play individually without team work. I think any team can defeat them even Blackwater if they continue this performance or maybe an early boracay in the playoffs.

No, I disagree with that. That should not be a reason for a light performance of Ginebra. There's no reason to point out why they lose in their last game but only, they are underperforming. And even how worst Ginebra is, Blackwater won't stand a chance unless intentionally losing as BW will have big odds on that match if happened.

I still don't see them being eliminated this elimination round though.

If Ginebra will keep like that, they just need to face the trashtalks. Everyone is always happy that Ginebra will eliminate early. That's how powerful Ginebra is. Cheesy

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