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July 23, 2021, 06:00:04 AM
The current line up of Ginebra is pretty good than the older season. Stanley Pringle, LA Tenorio and Christian Standhardinger the big 3 of the team  has a good teamwork lead by coach Tim. Ginebra has a potential of winning as of their gameplay they prove that they can win.

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July 23, 2021, 05:56:42 AM
Ginebra won the first game, they bounce back from their first game loss.

They won by 14 points and that's good as they also covered the point spread which is -12.5

All the starting 5 of Ginebra had double-digit points, they seemed to share the ball pretty well.

Tenorio 17
Thompson 11
Pringle 19
Aguilar 14
Standhardinger 11


That was a statement that they are really a good team.

Standhardinger and Aguilar should be both healthy so they'll dominate inside, and this lineup is a very defensive line up so I still like their chances of winning the PBA championship this season. The new addition is only Standhardinger but we know he can blend pretty well to any team as he has played a lot of teams already and with good experience.

So early to tell about winning a championship but its really a good decision to get Standhardingers on their line up since as you said they are perfect blend on defensive side if the coaching staff will know how to use this guy's and create good chemistry together then provably wen see this team go to finals. I also said it's early to say about them winning the champ since SMB super team still intact and other teams have a good roosters this season.
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July 23, 2021, 05:48:08 AM
Ginebra won the first game, they bounce back from their first game loss.

They won by 14 points and that's good as they also covered the point spread which is -12.5

All the starting 5 of Ginebra had double-digit points, they seemed to share the ball pretty well.

Tenorio 17
Thompson 11
Pringle 19
Aguilar 14
Standhardinger 11


That was a statement that they are really a good team.

Standhardinger and Aguilar should be both healthy so they'll dominate inside, and this lineup is a very defensive line up so I still like their chances of winning the PBA championship this season. The new addition is only Standhardinger but we know he can blend pretty well to any team as he has played a lot of teams already and with good experience.
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July 23, 2021, 05:27:46 AM
Ginebra won the first game, they bounce back from their first game loss.

They won by 14 points and that's good as they also covered the point spread which is -12.5

All the starting 5 of Ginebra had double-digit points, they seemed to share the ball pretty well.

Tenorio 17
Thompson 11
Pringle 19
Aguilar 14
Standhardinger 11
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July 23, 2021, 04:04:28 AM
I don't know if somebody here already know the news but one reliable page from Facebook (One Sports) told that Ray Parks Jr. has been release therefore, he hasn't have any contract as of this moment. This is the exact caption.

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JUST IN: PBA Commissioner Willie Marcial confirms that TNT has given Ray Parks, Jr. his release from the team. The guard is currently not under contract.

It was reported, and long been rumored, that Parks is Japan bound. | via ESPN5's Philip Matel

Now the TNT doesn't have any problems anymore with him. What would be the future of Ray Parks Cheesy. My prediction is that he might sign a contract into the Japan B League like many other Filipino Players are doing or he might play in the US since it is where his career started. Smiley
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July 22, 2021, 09:52:05 PM
We have 1.40 for ML bet, it's worth a shot.

I'd rather pick an adjusted odds on handicap if your mindset thinks that SMB will bounce back. It's much worth it and the same risks on their ML odds.

For now, I will stay away at any Moneyline bet for top teams as they are not showing their full best yet, or maybe below tiers are more serious for now. These top teams will eventually wake up in the mid of standing if they see there's something wrong and to have a good positioning on the post-elimination.
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July 22, 2021, 05:24:49 PM
Two games for today but I'm shying away from that Ginebra vs Blackwater game because the spread is too high and in this stage of the elimination, everything is unstable and unpredictable hehe.

Betting against the Beermen here because TR7 is out while Fajardo will be playing with controlled minutes while NLEX is doing just fine.
 


I think SMB will bounce back and win, and they normally win in a dominant manner so it's good to bet on the SMB spread in this game. if we are still doubtful if they'll cover, then we can always take the money line with lower odds. I also noticed that since it's the last game, sometimes it will be a close match so ML is really the right bet at this moment. We have 1.40 for ML bet, it's worth a shot.
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July 22, 2021, 04:29:41 PM

Salute to the teams and players that always have a clean match.............

Just like other sports, I think the main culprit of sports rigging is not the team or the players, it's probably the people officiating the game, that way, the rig is not so obvious and as we observed, we don't usually see a player that is consistent but having a bad game, it's actually the referees making inconsistent calls.
Yes, that's likely. But these are accusations and we've got no proof anyway this is just a discussion of what we think is actually happening. Without such approval from the top officials, there will be no rigging of match or there won't be favor that shall be granted. We've heard it once and ones there's another guy from the league starts to voice out his frustration, well, that confirms the first voice that we've heard about how rigged the league is. And for the meantime, let's forget about this discussion and let's focus on the current games that they're giving us.

There's no way the officials will make this league a rig one, it's not like a wrestling match, it's a real competition with real pride, it's just sometimes there are questionable calls that will make people think this league is rigged. Referees will play a vital role in sports rigging, and if it will happen, the team will have no idea that referees are cooking the game to make a specific team win.
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July 22, 2021, 04:28:17 PM
Two games for today but I'm shying away from that Ginebra vs Blackwater game because the spread is too high and in this stage of the elimination, everything is unstable and unpredictable hehe.

Betting against the Beermen here because TR7 is out while Fajardo will be playing with controlled minutes while NLEX is doing just fine.
 
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July 22, 2021, 04:25:57 PM

Salute to the teams and players that always have a clean match.............

Just like other sports, I think the main culprit of sports rigging is not the team or the players, it's probably the people officiating the game, that way, the rig is not so obvious and as we observed, we don't usually see a player that is consistent but having a bad game, it's actually the referees making inconsistent calls.
Yes, that's likely. But these are accusations and we've got no proof anyway this is just a discussion of what we think is actually happening. Without such approval from the top officials, there will be no rigging of match or there won't be favor that shall be granted. We've heard it once and ones there's another guy from the league starts to voice out his frustration, well, that confirms the first voice that we've heard about how rigged the league is. And for the meantime, let's forget about this discussion and let's focus on the current games that they're giving us.
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July 22, 2021, 04:11:46 PM

Salute to the teams and players that always have a clean match.............

Just like other sports, I think the main culprit of sports rigging is not the team or the players, it's probably the people officiating the game, that way, the rig is not so obvious and as we observed, we don't usually see a player that is consistent but having a bad game, it's actually the referees making inconsistent calls.
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Rigged is not new in the league. But as a regular viewer, we can somehow judge a game if there is something sh*t happening between sister teams or different franchises. There are games especially in the playoffs that we can see a team is really competitive so salute to those clean games and it happened a lot more compare to a questionable one.

"Bigayan" really happened but I'm more concerned about questionable trades compare to those possible rigged games.
Salute to the teams and players that always have a clean match but I guess it became now an open secret when there are games that are quite confusing and obvious with such results and performances. As for the trades, we're again going to see those powerful trades from teams to teams and players roster shift. There's a big money involve with the usual trades and that's why we see those heavily invested teams are making their roster stronger because they know that they'll get ROI with those players once they trade/buy them.
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July 22, 2021, 10:12:05 AM

Rigged is not new in the league. But as a regular viewer, we can somehow judge a game if there is something sh*t happening between sister teams or different franchises. There are games especially in the playoffs that we can see a team is really competitive so salute to those clean games and it happened a lot more compare to a questionable one.

"Bigayan" really happened but I'm more concerned about questionable trades compare to those possible rigged games.

So do I, that kind of twist with those unexpected rotations of trade, those so-called 3-way trades that's very annoying,

end outcome always favor big franchise resulting to a much deeper bench.

If you are old enough you can just simply say that it's part of the business, and this league is more on the business side and no longer about heavy competitions but more on money matters, players and teams are more concerns with paychecks and not with the entertainment where fans are aiming and spending their money.
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July 22, 2021, 08:49:59 AM
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I like to bet on the SMB teams to win but the handicap is so high, are you guys think that they can cover the spread easily?
I know that they'll bounce back, but knowing the PBA, their opponent would likely cover.
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July 22, 2021, 07:06:50 AM

Rigged is not new in the league. But as a regular viewer, we can somehow judge a game if there is something sh*t happening between sister teams or different franchises. There are games especially in the playoffs that we can see a team is really competitive so salute to those clean games and it happened a lot more compare to a questionable one.

"Bigayan" really happened but I'm more concerned about questionable trades compare to those possible rigged games.

Both for me is a big issue, games should be fair and not rigged as they will lose fans if they'll consistently do it. When it comes to betting, it's very important to understand the real situation in the PBA, I mean if there is rigging happening, then we should be on the team that we think will win.

Still for me is hard to guess, unless we have an inside information.
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July 21, 2021, 06:59:21 PM

Rigged is not new in the league. But as a regular viewer, we can somehow judge a game if there is something sh*t happening between sister teams or different franchises. There are games especially in the playoffs that we can see a team is really competitive so salute to those clean games and it happened a lot more compare to a questionable one.

"Bigayan" really happened but I'm more concerned about questionable trades compare to those possible rigged games.
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July 21, 2021, 06:37:28 PM
So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

This has nothing to do with right side - wrong side.

PH basketball has a history of being corrupt and fixed and easy to tell at the start of the season that this hasn't changed.
I thought I'm the only one who observed this rigged and fixed games but it seems like there are some who did too.

There are no evidences but as a watcher of PBA games for the past years, you can see the changes especially with the competitiveness of the league. No evidences so we can't say directly that the league is completely rigged and they are doing some game fixings. I agree though that as a bettor, you must maximize this but still its hard to predict which team will win. I can't say that the league is a real shame though because after all, it provides entertainment to us. Its just like the competitiveness of the league is slowly disappearing. I might bet for some games too for some fun while watching Cheesy.
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July 21, 2021, 04:56:42 PM
What if Magnolia would win the championship this conference, or the Meralco Bolts who is playing very well in the past 2 games, I guess it will surprise the fans as the fan favorites are the SMB and BGSM. IMO, as long as Fajardo will not be back to his old stats, SMB will not win a championship this conference.
It won't be a surprise if Magnolia or Bolts will win the championship. We're going to see that during the semis whoever stays and will go to the finals. Well, the crowd favorites would always be the two sister teams and that won't change as it's been in the tradition for so many years and it's hard to see that there will be a few fans for those teams. But the guarantee is that there will always be more fans that will always count the two teams or any of them to reach the finals and gets the trophy.

No longer from the time where there are lots of competitions, I used to remember Cheering for Shell and Alaska, I love the tandem of Magsanoc and Paras, then the triangle of alaska way back with Jolas, Flying A and Hawkins.

Moving back, we can't assume who will win yet, it's still far from that,  but like what you just said whoever went up to the semis and stay winning will have the best shot to win the title.

We will see more actions and we will have that conclusion after the regular season ends up,.
Woah, Shell. I remember that when I was still a kid. Nostalgic when my father watches their game and I wanted to switch the channel and getting the remote from him.
As for the result, there's always the rival, the crowd's favorite, the dark horse, and other improving teams. Let's all just enjoy what has been given to us and this is the most awaited time that we've been discussing in here. We've got our own teams to cheer and by the way, Berto is back!
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July 21, 2021, 04:37:06 PM
So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

This has nothing to do with right side - wrong side.

PH basketball has a history of being corrupt and fixed and easy to tell at the start of the season that this hasn't changed.

I agree with that, but if you really know it's corrupt and you are still watching it, then you should put some bet and take advantage of it. The thing is, you would not love watching the game if you don't put a bet because it will not anymore excite you, so no sense in wasting your time.

Actually, it's not only PBA that is corrupt, even NBA, there are a lot of theories that fix games are happening, so PBA is not different.

This story of game-fixing is not new to us and to prove that indeed there are rigged games is very hard. IMO, I think that it's just a coincidence that everything turned out that way and the PBA has nothing to do with it. Who will benefit if they will intend to lose their game and with today's technology, it is easier to spot a rigged game than before, and being honest and fair is profitable nowadays so I give them the benefit of the doubt that it's only pure coincidence.

We have different theories, and personally, I believe that PBA could be rigged, however, I still love to watch this game as PBA is still the most popular basketball in the league, so we have no choice. About how they benefit, we don't know, but we millions of money being wagered in a game, a million per game income for fixing the game could already make the team owner richer as that's easy money.

Back to the actual game now, the next schedule will be on Friday.

We got Ginebra vs Bossing and Beermen vs NLEX, both SMB teams had loss on their opening game.

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July 21, 2021, 04:26:04 PM
So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

This has nothing to do with right side - wrong side.

PH basketball has a history of being corrupt and fixed and easy to tell at the start of the season that this hasn't changed.

I agree with that, but if you really know it's corrupt and you are still watching it, then you should put some bet and take advantage of it. The thing is, you would not love watching the game if you don't put a bet because it will not anymore excite you, so no sense in wasting your time.

Actually, it's not only PBA that is corrupt, even NBA, there are a lot of theories that fix games are happening, so PBA is not different.

This story of game-fixing is not new to us and to prove that indeed there are rigged games is very hard. IMO, I think that it's just a coincidence that everything turned out that way and the PBA has nothing to do with it. Who will benefit if they will intend to lose their game and with today's technology, it is easier to spot a rigged game than before, and being honest and fair is profitable nowadays so I give them the benefit of the doubt that it's only pure coincidence.
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