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April 19, 2024, 10:26:48 PM
Thought converge are going to upset the SMB, but they were just good in the first half and the 3rd quarter alone, SMB have elimited the lead of the Converge. I can't believe the 3rd quarter scoring, 51-20 in favor of SMB, this is the first time I saw a team got outscored that high. Anyway, on the gamblers, converge still cover as it ended as SMB winning by 9 points only.
Upset hapenned in the PBA so it's not surprising if they did upset the SMB. However, SMB did not allow that, they want to keep their undefeated record and probably wants to make a history again.  The 3rd quarter scoring only showed how lousy the Converge are, they don't play defense because 50 points in one quarter  is just too much to give up while they only scored 20. They deserve to be winless because they don't give consistent energy every quarter.

On the current game now, Ginebra vs TN, this has become a very exciting game, Ginebra started strong but TNT got back in the 2nd quarter and were able to tie the game at the half. Now it's Ginebra that is leading with less than 5 minutes left in the game, let's see if they'll get this W.
That was close but not close enough for TNT to complete their comeback. Ginebra is just the better team, they are clutch in the clutch time and Thompson was a blessing because he nailed a 3 point shot that give them a go ahead basket, now I can say that they already are back  to their old never say die team and Thompson is a big factor of their success now.
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April 19, 2024, 08:23:55 AM
Thought converge are going to upset the SMB, but they were just good in the first half and the 3rd quarter alone, SMB have elimited the lead of the Converge. I can't believe the 3rd quarter scoring, 51-20 in favor of SMB, this is the first time I saw a team got outscored that high. Anyway, on the gamblers, converge still cover as it ended as SMB winning by 9 points only.

On the current game now, Ginebra vs TN, this has become a very exciting game, Ginebra started strong but TNT got back in the 2nd quarter and were able to tie the game at the half. Now it's Ginebra that is leading with less than 5 minutes left in the game, let's see if they'll get this W.
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April 19, 2024, 05:40:52 AM

Upset does not happen a lot in the PBA, unless it's just a regular season. In the playoffs or especially in the Finals, it shoudl be the best of the best in order for them to sell their tickets, otherwise, people will not be watching as they already know the outcome.

Yup, they need to bring the top tier teams to meet for the finals, else, there's no fans to watch or no interest coming from those remaining loyals people who still enjoying this league, though it's no longer secret in terms of who's going to win almost predictable and only bettors who really waiting for each games to place their bets, (just saying)

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SMB vs Ginebra, great match up in the Finals especially if the series is long. I think they really need to create some script in order to prolong the series to make it more fun. Other conference where it's fun to watch is if they'll invite some foreign teams, just like before, hopefully that will happen again as fans do really love that kind of competition.

Something that will bring numbers of crowd(Hakot) Gin kings is known to a crowd favorite and if they managed to reached the finals and even it's against SMB, fans will still going to support them, and surely PBA will make some decent earnings especially if the series will end in a final  do-or-die game 7.
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April 18, 2024, 10:27:44 PM
Yeah, and that's the same reason why coach Tim bring him in to represent our country his good hassle play and bring tough defense gives the main cores to rest with a quality minutes,  I like Newsome in a way that he can blend his game to anyone but just like what you mentioned,  they are not composed of players who can compete during the all Filipino conference unlike with SMC teams which more likely will again meet in the finals,  unless upset  will take place..
Upset does not happen a lot in the PBA, unless it's just a regular season. In the playoffs or especially in the Finals, it shoudl be the best of the best in order for them to sell their tickets, otherwise, people will not be watching as they already know the outcome.
No upsets are happening now, because they are now positioning to qualify.
Maybe in the early days there were upsets but top teams are now making sure that they'll start winning.

If we are looking to bet today, we have 2 games on board

Converge (winless) vs SMB (undefeated)
Ginebra vs TNT

SMB vs Ginebra, great match up in the Finals especially if the series is long. I think they really need to create some script in order to prolong the series to make it more fun. Other conference where it's fun to watch is if they'll invite some foreign teams, just like before, hopefully that will happen again as fans do really love that kind of competition.
That's likely to happen since Ginebra is now in full force again and I'm sure coach Tim Cone would not allow to lose that easy again, they'll make an adjustment and will try to beat the SMB. But if other team will advance, hopefully it's TNT.
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April 18, 2024, 10:08:34 PM
Yeah, and that's the same reason why coach Tim bring him in to represent our country his good hassle play and bring tough defense gives the main cores to rest with a quality minutes,  I like Newsome in a way that he can blend his game to anyone but just like what you mentioned,  they are not composed of players who can compete during the all Filipino conference unlike with SMC teams which more likely will again meet in the finals,  unless upset  will take place..
Upset does not happen a lot in the PBA, unless it's just a regular season. In the playoffs or especially in the Finals, it shoudl be the best of the best in order for them to sell their tickets, otherwise, people will not be watching as they already know the outcome.

SMB vs Ginebra, great match up in the Finals especially if the series is long. I think they really need to create some script in order to prolong the series to make it more fun. Other conference where it's fun to watch is if they'll invite some foreign teams, just like before, hopefully that will happen again as fans do really love that kind of competition.
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April 18, 2024, 06:10:01 PM
Newsome is not getting any younger but he will be so useful in a team that are good defensivel as he is a great defender. I hope he will win a championship before he retires, and the only chance it will happen is if he will transfer to other team, maybe TNT as it's a system team of Meralco.

He is 33 years old now and still plays the same, it's just that Meralco aren't a good team in the All Filipino cup since they aren't loaded with talents unlike the SMB and Ginebra. They might not win on the current conference but they have a good chance on the next as long as they'll be able to acquire a great import. This team does not really on one man, they pass the ball and played honest defense, so when there's an import, we can expect that chemistry will easily be build.

We can see his average here https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Chris-Newsome/Summary/99298

Newsome is not really a special player, not a player that could average at least 20+ points per game, but his main skills is his defense and aggressiveness in grabbing the rebounds, and he had proven that when he minimize the RHJ during the 19th Asian Games.

if you miss the highlights, you can check out again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-r-gVo_m3w

Yeah, and that's the same reason why coach Tim bring him in to represent our country his good hassle play and bring tough defense gives the main cores to rest with a quality minutes,  I like Newsome in a way that he can blend his game to anyone but just like what you mentioned,  they are not composed of players who can compete during the all Filipino conference unlike with SMC teams which more likely will again meet in the finals,  unless upset  will take place..
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April 18, 2024, 08:28:51 AM
Newsome is not getting any younger but he will be so useful in a team that are good defensivel as he is a great defender. I hope he will win a championship before he retires, and the only chance it will happen is if he will transfer to other team, maybe TNT as it's a system team of Meralco.

He is 33 years old now and still plays the same, it's just that Meralco aren't a good team in the All Filipino cup since they aren't loaded with talents unlike the SMB and Ginebra. They might not win on the current conference but they have a good chance on the next as long as they'll be able to acquire a great import. This team does not really on one man, they pass the ball and played honest defense, so when there's an import, we can expect that chemistry will easily be build.

We can see his average here https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Chris-Newsome/Summary/99298

Newsome is not really a special player, not a player that could average at least 20+ points per game, but his main skills is his defense and aggressiveness in grabbing the rebounds, and he had proven that when he minimize the RHJ during the 19th Asian Games.

if you miss the highlights, you can check out again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-r-gVo_m3w
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April 18, 2024, 07:34:22 AM
In that game first game, Belga showing his basketball IQ seems he cameback from his old glory days, not bad for ROS they are now slowly moving up and start being competitive again.

I guess coach yeng would stop complaining now about the super teams in the NBA. ROS currently have a good ranking, they are one of the weak teams that have a grea run so far. With their recent team, they improve to 5-4 and number 6 in standing, and since there's still plenty of games to be played, most likely they'll have a chance to be in the playoffs.

Currently, the top 5 teams now belong to the SMB and Pangilinan group.

https://pba.ph/

1. SMB
2. NLEX
3. Magnolia
4. Ginebra
5. TNT

Meralco seemed to be missing.

Only Meralco is missing the spot, though last season we manage to see Phoenix maybe this season ROS will have that chance to move up and be a contender, who knows they will manage their way to reach the semis, though with the current team standing they are still far in terms of reaching the finals, but there's no one who can dictate or conclude if they can or not.

Still got lots of game to play and it will be depends from how they will execute their system, maybe coach Yeng starting to adopt how the game is being played with his fresh squads who can really catch up with speed and skills, just need to be consistent and have that courage to bring all-in with each games that they'll playing.

Meralco has been struggling ever since they had a new head coach. It must be the problem and they can only fix that if they'll change a coach. Also, Meralco's style is more on grit and grind, they aren't good 3 point shooters as a team because only Maliksi are consistent in the line up. I don't expect them to qualify in the playoffs, it's another heartbreak for them this conference and time will come they'll decide to trade players and rebuild.

The change of coach is possible but if Norman Black will still be the one that will dictate, the system is still there, and even before he was still coaching the team, they aren't really like a championship team, IIRC, they were in the finals before but loss to Ginebra, that was during the time of Durham.

Newsome is not getting any younger but he will be so useful in a team that are good defensivel as he is a great defender. I hope he will win a championship before he retires, and the only chance it will happen is if he will transfer to other team, maybe TNT as it's a system team of Meralco.
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April 18, 2024, 06:47:32 AM
In that game first game, Belga showing his basketball IQ seems he cameback from his old glory days, not bad for ROS they are now slowly moving up and start being competitive again.

I guess coach yeng would stop complaining now about the super teams in the NBA. ROS currently have a good ranking, they are one of the weak teams that have a grea run so far. With their recent team, they improve to 5-4 and number 6 in standing, and since there's still plenty of games to be played, most likely they'll have a chance to be in the playoffs.

Currently, the top 5 teams now belong to the SMB and Pangilinan group.

https://pba.ph/

1. SMB
2. NLEX
3. Magnolia
4. Ginebra
5. TNT

Meralco seemed to be missing.

Only Meralco is missing the spot, though last season we manage to see Phoenix maybe this season ROS will have that chance to move up and be a contender, who knows they will manage their way to reach the semis, though with the current team standing they are still far in terms of reaching the finals, but there's no one who can dictate or conclude if they can or not.

Still got lots of game to play and it will be depends from how they will execute their system, maybe coach Yeng starting to adopt how the game is being played with his fresh squads who can really catch up with speed and skills, just need to be consistent and have that courage to bring all-in with each games that they'll playing.

Meralco has been struggling ever since they had a new head coach. It must be the problem and they can only fix that if they'll change a coach. Also, Meralco's style is more on grit and grind, they aren't good 3 point shooters as a team because only Maliksi are consistent in the line up. I don't expect them to qualify in the playoffs, it's another heartbreak for them this conference and time will come they'll decide to trade players and rebuild.
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April 18, 2024, 05:25:05 AM
In that game first game, Belga showing his basketball IQ seems he cameback from his old glory days, not bad for ROS they are now slowly moving up and start being competitive again.

I guess coach yeng would stop complaining now about the super teams in the NBA. ROS currently have a good ranking, they are one of the weak teams that have a grea run so far. With their recent team, they improve to 5-4 and number 6 in standing, and since there's still plenty of games to be played, most likely they'll have a chance to be in the playoffs.

Currently, the top 5 teams now belong to the SMB and Pangilinan group.

https://pba.ph/

1. SMB
2. NLEX
3. Magnolia
4. Ginebra
5. TNT

Meralco seemed to be missing.

Only Meralco is missing the spot, though last season we manage to see Phoenix maybe this season ROS will have that chance to move up and be a contender, who knows they will manage their way to reach the semis, though with the current team standing they are still far in terms of reaching the finals, but there's no one who can dictate or conclude if they can or not.

Still got lots of game to play and it will be depends from how they will execute their system, maybe coach Yeng starting to adopt how the game is being played with his fresh squads who can really catch up with speed and skills, just need to be consistent and have that courage to bring all-in with each games that they'll playing.
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April 18, 2024, 02:11:27 AM
In that game first game, Belga showing his basketball IQ seems he cameback from his old glory days, not bad for ROS they are now slowly moving up and start being competitive again.

I guess coach yeng would stop complaining now about the super teams in the NBA. ROS currently have a good ranking, they are one of the weak teams that have a grea run so far. With their recent team, they improve to 5-4 and number 6 in standing, and since there's still plenty of games to be played, most likely they'll have a chance to be in the playoffs.

Currently, the top 5 teams now belong to the SMB and Pangilinan group.

https://pba.ph/

1. SMB
2. NLEX
3. Magnolia
4. Ginebra
5. TNT

Meralco seemed to be missing.
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April 17, 2024, 03:32:17 PM
Yeah, that under the table is making sense in the PBA. It's not a secret that it's happening mostly in MVP and SMC teams, they don't even want to trade those players as they're closed with contracts until they finally end and no longer in use for the team. Just like what happened with Greg, his contract ended and got an offer to play in B League but because he can't stay there for so long and want to be with his family, it's good to see him play on MPBL and has still a good offer and contract.
He wouldn't come back if the offer is not good. I like to see Greg being helpful to this team, so hopefully that rumor is true and he'll be able to make a name again, but this time in MPBL. Personally I'm not really watching MPBL games, but I heard people say that it's more fun than the PBA.

Anyway, that is still a rumor until we see Greg in uniform of whatever team he'll be playing.
I haven't watched a game yet but the same feed back I've heard and read that MPBL games are more fun than PBA but of course, this thread is PBA but Greg was PBA as well so, that's still a consideration though.

Yeah, that under the table is making sense in the PBA. It's not a secret that it's happening mostly in MVP and SMC teams, they don't even want to trade those players as they're closed with contracts until they finally end and no longer in use for the team. Just like what happened with Greg, his contract ended and got an offer to play in B League but because he can't stay there for so long and want to be with his family, it's good to see him play on MPBL and has still a good offer and contract.

That under the table deals will totally kill the interest of fans to watch PBA and we can already see its effect right now since we can see that there's so less interest of people to watch the live games even if the team playing is Ginebra or other strong teams in the League. Luckily Greg is already out on PBA and his on MPBL now since we maybe see a total fall down of PBA and it will be change by currently a hot league for filipino fans which is MPBL.

If their commissioner will continue to favor those three big companies on the league for sure the oldest basket league in Asia will collapsed.
When the known teams like a decade or more ago has been gone, there's something else to the league that had made them disappointed and out of the league. Because it's always been the top and known teams always get the title and it is not surprising if more teams does this in the near future.
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April 17, 2024, 08:08:17 AM
Now, if he really coming back not in PBA but in MPBL I guess it will be a good venue for him to prove his worth, if he can dominate and make a noise on his new found home.

It will remain a rumor until we saw him playing with MPBL. Actually, if Ginebra would sign him again, that woudl help the team as Greg is the only one who can limit the production of JMF, I saw their rivals before during the prime of JMF, and he is really limited when playing against Greg.

Maybe Greg doesn't like to go back in Ginebra, but he can be useful with other teams, like the TNT where there's no legit big man.

Of course, that was back then. Maybe if C. Stand and Greg will be playing together, the inside will be hard to attack for the Gin Kings. Honestly, I just don't like the current big man of Ginebra now, they can play Japeth as the center but he isn't that big and JMF could easily move him and fish some foul,  even C.  Stand to be honest.

By the way, the first game was over and ROS have won the game. Belga had a great game with 28 points, he turned the clock back, never seen him scored like that in the past few years.



Yeah, if Gin kings still have that interest with him, but I guess that controversy between him and Boss Al' francis might not let this to happen, knowing the characteristics of Boss Al' he will play with his cards and having 3 super teams and those farm teams I guess Greg's chance to play back inside PBA is slim, while with MPBL like what I've mentioned he can still have that room to impress the fans and maybe regain his name way back when he still the best college prospect back then when he still playing and leading the ADMU.

In that game first game, Belga showing his basketball IQ seems he cameback from his old glory days, not bad for ROS they are now slowly moving up and start being competitive again.
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April 17, 2024, 06:57:44 AM
Now, if he really coming back not in PBA but in MPBL I guess it will be a good venue for him to prove his worth, if he can dominate and make a noise on his new found home.

It will remain a rumor until we saw him playing with MPBL. Actually, if Ginebra would sign him again, that woudl help the team as Greg is the only one who can limit the production of JMF, I saw their rivals before during the prime of JMF, and he is really limited when playing against Greg.

Maybe Greg doesn't like to go back in Ginebra, but he can be useful with other teams, like the TNT where there's no legit big man.

Of course, that was back then. Maybe if C. Stand and Greg will be playing together, the inside will be hard to attack for the Gin Kings. Honestly, I just don't like the current big man of Ginebra now, they can play Japeth as the center but he isn't that big and JMF could easily move him and fish some foul,  even C.  Stand to be honest.

By the way, the first game was over and ROS have won the game. Belga had a great game with 28 points, he turned the clock back, never seen him scored like that in the past few years.

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April 17, 2024, 06:33:40 AM
Now, if he really coming back not in PBA but in MPBL I guess it will be a good venue for him to prove his worth, if he can dominate and make a noise on his new found home.

It will remain a rumor until we saw him playing with MPBL. Actually, if Ginebra would sign him again, that woudl help the team as Greg is the only one who can limit the production of JMF, I saw their rivals before during the prime of JMF, and he is really limited when playing against Greg.

Maybe Greg doesn't like to go back in Ginebra, but he can be useful with other teams, like the TNT where there's no legit big man.
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April 17, 2024, 06:25:54 AM
If they have the money, they can. But just balance all of those players and teams unlike PBA, they're saying they have salary cap but it's all just a show and greater and superstar players are receiving more than the cap.
There's always a thing called "under the table", if they really think he is very valuable to the team, then they could give that salary. I don't follow MPBL a lot but since they have been considered as a pro already, that means they are into business for long term and whow knows one day they'll overtake PBA and they'll be the best league in the Philippines.

Greg is actually 35 years old already, I don't think he deserve that kind of salary because he is nearing the retirement age. That article might just be hype and readers buy the story.
Yeah, that under the table is making sense in the PBA. It's not a secret that it's happening mostly in MVP and SMC teams, they don't even want to trade those players as they're closed with contracts until they finally end and no longer in use for the team. Just like what happened with Greg, his contract ended and got an offer to play in B League but because he can't stay there for so long and want to be with his family, it's good to see him play on MPBL and has still a good offer and contract.
He wouldn't come back if the offer is not good. I like to see Greg being helpful to this team, so hopefully that rumor is true and he'll be able to make a name again, but this time in MPBL. Personally I'm not really watching MPBL games, but I heard people say that it's more fun than the PBA.

Anyway, that is still a rumor until we see Greg in uniform of whatever team he'll be playing.

Back to PBA, SMB is still leading with 5-0 record, maybe they will end undefeated this conference as they are really good.

By the way, tomorrow 2 games again.
ROS vs Northport
Hotshots vs Bossing.

When we see him playing then that rumors about the money might be true, I guess he will not just go back for nothing aside from wanting to play at home there's still big money involve behind that contract, I knew he really wanted to prove his worth and continue being competitive, he's the one that being predicted to dominate but instead he's main rival is the one who gained the glory, I'm talking about the competition between him and Abay way back their college and amateur years.

Now, if he really coming back not in PBA but in MPBL I guess it will be a good venue for him to prove his worth, if he can dominate and make a noise on his new found home.
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April 16, 2024, 08:42:05 AM
Even these pba players could transfer to MPBL once they are out of contract, but I think they'll never surpass the PBA in terms of salary as the team owners of the top teams are billionaires.
They are still in demand as they came from PBA, there are already a lot of ex PBA players that are in MPBL and they are making names in the league. Now, the star players in the PBA are just enjoying, but this MPBL league is another way to still have a career after PBA. I think Marc Pingris although retired from PBA are still being active in basketball and are playing with MPBL.

By the way, tomorrow 2 games again.
ROS vs Northport
Hotshots vs Bossing.

Top teams are starting to win now, on the 2nd game I'm betting on the Hotshots, but on the first game, it's hard to decide but I'll likely bet on the ROS.
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April 16, 2024, 07:44:19 AM
That under the table deals will totally kill the interest of fans to watch PBA and we can already see its effect right now since we can see that there's so less interest of people to watch the live games even if the team playing is Ginebra or other strong teams in the League.
Because of that it resulted to the disbalance of team as there are only few teams in the NBA that has a chance to win a championship, a bigger numbers are just there to absurb the  losses and probably  win some too but they aren't as competitive as the top teams. Like this season, it will likely be Ginebra or SMB that will win a championship, even if we make a survey, that would be their answer, so it has become easy to predict.

Luckily Greg is already out on PBA and his on MPBL now since we maybe see a total fall down of PBA and it will be change by currently a hot league for filipino fans which is MPBL.

If their commissioner will continue to favor those three big companies on the league for sure the oldest basket league in Asia will collapsed.
Even these pba players could transfer to MPBL once they are out of contract, but I think they'll never surpass the PBA in terms of salary as the team owners of the top teams are billionaires.
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April 16, 2024, 07:29:44 AM
If they have the money, they can. But just balance all of those players and teams unlike PBA, they're saying they have salary cap but it's all just a show and greater and superstar players are receiving more than the cap.
There's always a thing called "under the table", if they really think he is very valuable to the team, then they could give that salary. I don't follow MPBL a lot but since they have been considered as a pro already, that means they are into business for long term and whow knows one day they'll overtake PBA and they'll be the best league in the Philippines.

Greg is actually 35 years old already, I don't think he deserve that kind of salary because he is nearing the retirement age. That article might just be hype and readers buy the story.
Yeah, that under the table is making sense in the PBA. It's not a secret that it's happening mostly in MVP and SMC teams, they don't even want to trade those players as they're closed with contracts until they finally end and no longer in use for the team. Just like what happened with Greg, his contract ended and got an offer to play in B League but because he can't stay there for so long and want to be with his family, it's good to see him play on MPBL and has still a good offer and contract.

That under the table deals will totally kill the interest of fans to watch PBA and we can already see its effect right now since we can see that there's so less interest of people to watch the live games even if the team playing is Ginebra or other strong teams in the League. Luckily Greg is already out on PBA and his on MPBL now since we maybe see a total fall down of PBA and it will be change by currently a hot league for filipino fans which is MPBL.

If their commissioner will continue to favor those three big companies on the league for sure the oldest basket league in Asia will collapsed.
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April 16, 2024, 07:20:55 AM
If they have the money, they can. But just balance all of those players and teams unlike PBA, they're saying they have salary cap but it's all just a show and greater and superstar players are receiving more than the cap.
There's always a thing called "under the table", if they really think he is very valuable to the team, then they could give that salary. I don't follow MPBL a lot but since they have been considered as a pro already, that means they are into business for long term and whow knows one day they'll overtake PBA and they'll be the best league in the Philippines.

Greg is actually 35 years old already, I don't think he deserve that kind of salary because he is nearing the retirement age. That article might just be hype and readers buy the story.
Yeah, that under the table is making sense in the PBA. It's not a secret that it's happening mostly in MVP and SMC teams, they don't even want to trade those players as they're closed with contracts until they finally end and no longer in use for the team. Just like what happened with Greg, his contract ended and got an offer to play in B League but because he can't stay there for so long and want to be with his family, it's good to see him play on MPBL and has still a good offer and contract.
He wouldn't come back if the offer is not good. I like to see Greg being helpful to this team, so hopefully that rumor is true and he'll be able to make a name again, but this time in MPBL. Personally I'm not really watching MPBL games, but I heard people say that it's more fun than the PBA.

Anyway, that is still a rumor until we see Greg in uniform of whatever team he'll be playing.

Back to PBA, SMB is still leading with 5-0 record, maybe they will end undefeated this conference as they are really good.

By the way, tomorrow 2 games again.
ROS vs Northport
Hotshots vs Bossing.
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