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May 24, 2024, 01:40:38 AM
On the total, I have the first game under 177.5
I like the under as this sure a very defensive game. Ginebra can't afford to go down 1-3, so I'm sure it will be a very defensive start from the beginning until the end of the game. Normally, the 2nd half is more defensive especially if the first half ended in a close scoring, so consider that asa well.
Same here, but I guess I'll be betting on the  kings to win this game with -3.5 point spread. I am just observing the point spread and it seems it's not moving. I don't care if it's a trap or not but Ginebra cannot go down 3-1, so if they'll win, I believe they'll finish strong, and with that, they'll likely cover the spread.

I also checked the stats of Thompson and C. Stand, they seemed had a bad game in game 3, so I'm hoping for a big bounce back game and deliver a win.

and over 215.5 for the 2nd game.
This is just a battle of 3 point shooting, so I woudn't be surprise if the result will be over again. last game, the total was 224.
I think it's safer if we will also bet on the SMB's team total, and over would be easy since they are not struggling to shoot.

It could be a high scoring or low scoring, it doesn't matter, what matter which I also believe is that SMB are going to finish ROS tonight, so count me in on the spread which is -6.5.
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May 23, 2024, 09:56:24 AM
On the total, I have the first game under 177.5
I like the under as this sure a very defensive game. Ginebra can't afford to go down 1-3, so I'm sure it will be a very defensive start from the beginning until the end of the game. Normally, the 2nd half is more defensive especially if the first half ended in a close scoring, so consider that asa well.

and over 215.5 for the 2nd game.
This is just a battle of 3 point shooting, so I woudn't be surprise if the result will be over again. last game, the total was 224.
I think it's safer if we will also bet on the SMB's team total, and over would be easy since they are not struggling to shoot.
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May 23, 2024, 09:37:33 AM
The last statement is important siding for Gin kings might be a good one here, for sure CTC will find that good adjustments to improve both their offense and defense they've been outplayed by that familiar uniforms who mostly their opponents during the finals, they need to keep on moving and rotates the ball wisely,  as per Meralco what they've doing with their defense really paying the price as they manage to limits Gin kings predictions.  It's an interesting game 4 for sure as we will see how both teams will prepare in winning the game.
I think Ginebra are not really that good as an all Filipino players, they were only popular with Justin Brownlee with them, and now they are already exposed. The same roster, well, added few players but it seems like Meralco has been dominating them already. I would not say it will finish early but the way Meralco are playing, they'll most likely win the series.
Don't conclude it yet, it's still far from over as the series is now 2-1, maybe if Bolts will win the next game,  then we can talk about how good the Bolts are. Ginebra will try to even the series tomorrow, anyone here dare to bet on them? Here's the point spread for the game.

Ginebra -3.5 vs Meralco +3.5

For the next game, we have SMB -6.5 vs ROS +6.5
I think the first is interesting, on the 2nd game, it's not worth betting, but if I will, I'll take SMB -6.5 on this close out game.

On the total, I have the first game under 177.5 and over 215.5 for the 2nd game.
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May 23, 2024, 06:59:45 AM
The last statement is important siding for Gin kings might be a good one here, for sure CTC will find that good adjustments to improve both their offense and defense they've been outplayed by that familiar uniforms who mostly their opponents during the finals, they need to keep on moving and rotates the ball wisely,  as per Meralco what they've doing with their defense really paying the price as they manage to limits Gin kings predictions.  It's an interesting game 4 for sure as we will see how both teams will prepare in winning the game.
I think Ginebra are not really that good as an all Filipino players, they were only popular with Justin Brownlee with them, and now they are already exposed. The same roster, well, added few players but it seems like Meralco has been dominating them already. I would not say it will finish early but the way Meralco are playing, they'll most likely win the series.
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May 22, 2024, 04:40:13 PM
I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.

Yup, slow start but after 1st half both teams  start to rally and the over was easily covered, same with the handicap as SMB manage to take the win with a double digit leads, as you mentioned it's a 3-0 series now and the chance of getting sweep is almost at hand for SMB, though maybe to extend the series a magical hands will comes out and provide that luck for RoS bettors, it's not over until the series is not over hahaha. Let's wait and see if SMB will sweep this or ROS will manage to win game/s against the powerhouse SMB.

The same scenario happened with the Ginebra vs. Meralco game. It was a high-scoring 1st quarter, but the succeeding quarters were low-scoring. I even saw the live total reach 193.5 when it was only 178.5 before the game. Here's the breakdown of the quarters' scoring:

1st: 49...2nd: 33....3rd: 49....4th: 36
The total score was only 167, so the under wins. Additionally, Meralco now holds the lead in the series as they dominated Ginebra in this game.

That's the real defense, these two are both defensive teams, so the outcome should be under. And also, we have to consider that they are not playing in a familiar court. The 3 point shooting was missing as both teams shoots below 30%. I'm sure game 4 will also be a low scoring game as Ginebra is going to activate better defense to even the series, going down 1-3 is already very hard for them, so I guess I'm gonna side on the Ginebra in game 4 and will just forget betting on total.

The last statement is important siding for Gin kings might be a good one here, for sure CTC will find that good adjustments to improve both their offense and defense they've been outplayed by that familiar uniforms who mostly their opponents during the finals, they need to keep on moving and rotates the ball wisely,  as per Meralco what they've doing with their defense really paying the price as they manage to limits Gin kings predictions.  It's an interesting game 4 for sure as we will see how both teams will prepare in winning the game.
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May 22, 2024, 09:50:39 AM
I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.

Yup, slow start but after 1st half both teams  start to rally and the over was easily covered, same with the handicap as SMB manage to take the win with a double digit leads, as you mentioned it's a 3-0 series now and the chance of getting sweep is almost at hand for SMB, though maybe to extend the series a magical hands will comes out and provide that luck for RoS bettors, it's not over until the series is not over hahaha. Let's wait and see if SMB will sweep this or ROS will manage to win game/s against the powerhouse SMB.

The same scenario happened with the Ginebra vs. Meralco game. It was a high-scoring 1st quarter, but the succeeding quarters were low-scoring. I even saw the live total reach 193.5 when it was only 178.5 before the game. Here's the breakdown of the quarters' scoring:

1st: 49...2nd: 33....3rd: 49....4th: 36
The total score was only 167, so the under wins. Additionally, Meralco now holds the lead in the series as they dominated Ginebra in this game.

That's the real defense, these two are both defensive teams, so the outcome should be under. And also, we have to consider that they are not playing in a familiar court. The 3 point shooting was missing as both teams shoots below 30%. I'm sure game 4 will also be a low scoring game as Ginebra is going to activate better defense to even the series, going down 1-3 is already very hard for them, so I guess I'm gonna side on the Ginebra in game 4 and will just forget betting on total.
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May 22, 2024, 09:26:21 AM
I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.

Yup, slow start but after 1st half both teams  start to rally and the over was easily covered, same with the handicap as SMB manage to take the win with a double digit leads, as you mentioned it's a 3-0 series now and the chance of getting sweep is almost at hand for SMB, though maybe to extend the series a magical hands will comes out and provide that luck for RoS bettors, it's not over until the series is not over hahaha. Let's wait and see if SMB will sweep this or ROS will manage to win game/s against the powerhouse SMB.

The same scenario happened with the Ginebra vs. Meralco game. It was a high-scoring 1st quarter, but the succeeding quarters were low-scoring. I even saw the live total reach 193.5 when it was only 178.5 before the game. Here's the breakdown of the quarters' scoring:

1st: 49...2nd: 33....3rd: 49....4th: 36
The total score was only 167, so the under wins. Additionally, Meralco now holds the lead in the series as they dominated Ginebra in this game.
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May 22, 2024, 07:32:37 AM
I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.

Yup, slow start but after 1st half both teams  start to rally and the over was easily covered, same with the handicap as SMB manage to take the win with a double digit leads, as you mentioned it's a 3-0 series now and the chance of getting sweep is almost at hand for SMB, though maybe to extend the series a magical hands will comes out and provide that luck for RoS bettors, it's not over until the series is not over hahaha. Let's wait and see if SMB will sweep this or ROS will manage to win game/s against the powerhouse SMB.
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May 22, 2024, 07:18:30 AM
I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.
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May 22, 2024, 03:50:00 AM
The Semi Finals will resume tomorrow with the follow schedule and betting spreads.

4:30 PM
Rain or Shine vs San Miguel Beernmen (-5.5)

I don't get why the spread is still the same, it was obvious that ROS stand no chance against the SMB. I know it's a very important game for them tomorrow as they will prevent to go down 0-3, but the way they showed in game 2, I think they just can't win even one game.

However, as a precuationary measure, I don't want to fall into the trap, I'll observe the line and will only place my bet minutes before it will start.
Here's what I'm gonna do, if the line will move to -8.5 again, I'll be betting on the SMB, but if the line will move -3.5, thn I will bet on ROS to win outright.

So far the odds for this game has not move and i managed to bet for the Beermen with a -6.5 spread @1.99. This is a risky bet as it might be a trap because there might be a tendency that the Beermen will relax on this game since they are up by two and who knows ROS' barrage from the outside might win the game for them.
That's why I didn't bet on the point spread. instead, I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


Bolts vs Barangay Ginebra (-3.5)

This is a close game for sure, and so far Meralco is having great offense in the last 2 games, although they loss in game 1 but they were manage to score over of their team total as predicted by the bookies, so I guess betting on over 179.5 is still the best choice for me.

I'm betting for the Ginebra Kings on this one as i'm thinking that coach Tim Cone will make some adjustments on their game.

Same here, the better team should win and they need to be ahead in the series. It's only -2.5, so if Ginebra will win, there's no doubt they'll be able to cover the spread. On the total, sorry but I have to go against your pick, I'm on the under.
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May 22, 2024, 03:24:46 AM
The Semi Finals will resume tomorrow with the follow schedule and betting spreads.

4:30 PM
Rain or Shine vs San Miguel Beernmen (-5.5)

I don't get why the spread is still the same, it was obvious that ROS stand no chance against the SMB. I know it's a very important game for them tomorrow as they will prevent to go down 0-3, but the way they showed in game 2, I think they just can't win even one game.

However, as a precuationary measure, I don't want to fall into the trap, I'll observe the line and will only place my bet minutes before it will start.
Here's what I'm gonna do, if the line will move to -8.5 again, I'll be betting on the SMB, but if the line will move -3.5, thn I will bet on ROS to win outright.

So far the odds for this game has not move and i managed to bet for the Beermen with a -6.5 spread @1.99. This is a risky bet as it might be a trap because there might be a tendency that the Beermen will relax on this game since they are up by two and who knows ROS' barrage from the outside might win the game for them.

Bolts vs Barangay Ginebra (-3.5)

This is a close game for sure, and so far Meralco is having great offense in the last 2 games, although they loss in game 1 but they were manage to score over of their team total as predicted by the bookies, so I guess betting on over 179.5 is still the best choice for me.

I'm betting for the Ginebra Kings on this one as i'm thinking that coach Tim Cone will make some adjustments on their game.
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May 21, 2024, 08:32:14 AM
The Semi Finals will resume tomorrow with the follow schedule and betting spreads.

4:30 PM
Rain or Shine vs San Miguel Beernmen (-5.5)

I don't get why the spread is still the same, it was obvious that ROS stand no chance against the SMB. I know it's a very important game for them tomorrow as they will prevent to go down 0-3, but the way they showed in game 2, I think they just can't win even one game.

However, as a precuationary measure, I don't want to fall into the trap, I'll observe the line and will only place my bet minutes before it will start.
Here's what I'm gonna do, if the line will move to -8.5 again, I'll be betting on the SMB, but if the line will move -3.5, thn I will bet on ROS to win outright.

Bolts vs Barangay Ginebra (-3.5)

This is a close game for sure, and so far Meralco is having great offense in the last 2 games, although they loss in game 1 but they were manage to score over of their team total as predicted by the bookies, so I guess betting on over 179.5 is still the best choice for me.
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May 21, 2024, 07:05:17 AM
SMB is just too much for ROS. Although ROS are sharing the ball very well which is good but their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's and since that should be their main weapon to defeat SMB, with a low percentage that's an automatic loss. ROS really struggling to score in the paint as JMF is waiting their to block shots, and sometimes when JMF attack the paint, he can also grab some offensive rebounds which hurts more the ROS. Now, let's talk about game 3, what should be the strategy the ROS has to use? Because they can't afford to go 0-3 where no team have even comeback in the PBA history.

Actually there was already a team that came back from a 0-3 hole and that is the Beermen also lead by that time a younger June Mar Fajardo. It was dubbed as a "beeracle" where the SMB Beermen defeated the Alaska aces four consecutive game to grad the AFC trophy. Just forgot what year that was but it really happens in the PBA.

Yes, it does not happen in NBA but it happen in the PBA, it's already in the history.

However, the situation was different with the current match up of the SMB now because ROS are healthy and they are the underdog in the series, unlike that time where SMB was only underdog because they don't have their best player,  but when he came back, it changes everything and they made a history.

Indeed, Alaska got their chance since JMF is not playing on their first 3 meetings but when JMF start to play there's no way Alaska can stop him and with his pals "the death 5" it's really tough to handle thats solid squad, nothing but only watching the Beermen snatching that almost another title for the Aces.

Though, the situation now is too different, SMB is the heavy favorite and there's no one from ROS lineup that they are waiting to bring a big impact, and worse is SMB begins to spark that bond with those resting superstars now being back in form, it's really tough to handled.
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May 21, 2024, 03:16:25 AM
SMB is just too much for ROS. Although ROS are sharing the ball very well which is good but their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's and since that should be their main weapon to defeat SMB, with a low percentage that's an automatic loss. ROS really struggling to score in the paint as JMF is waiting their to block shots, and sometimes when JMF attack the paint, he can also grab some offensive rebounds which hurts more the ROS. Now, let's talk about game 3, what should be the strategy the ROS has to use? Because they can't afford to go 0-3 where no team have even comeback in the PBA history.

Actually there was already a team that came back from a 0-3 hole and that is the Beermen also lead by that time a younger June Mar Fajardo. It was dubbed as a "beeracle" where the SMB Beermen defeated the Alaska aces four consecutive game to grad the AFC trophy. Just forgot what year that was but it really happens in the PBA.

Yes, it does not happen in NBA but it happen in the PBA, it's already in the history.

However, the situation was different with the current match up of the SMB now because ROS are healthy and they are the underdog in the series, unlike that time where SMB was only underdog because they don't have their best player,  but when he came back, it changes everything and they made a history.
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SMB is just too much for ROS. Although ROS are sharing the ball very well which is good but their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's and since that should be their main weapon to defeat SMB, with a low percentage that's an automatic loss. ROS really struggling to score in the paint as JMF is waiting their to block shots, and sometimes when JMF attack the paint, he can also grab some offensive rebounds which hurts more the ROS. Now, let's talk about game 3, what should be the strategy the ROS has to use? Because they can't afford to go 0-3 where no team have even comeback in the PBA history.

Actually there was already a team that came back from a 0-3 hole and that is the Beermen also lead by that time a younger June Mar Fajardo. It was dubbed as a "beeracle" where the SMB Beermen defeated the Alaska aces four consecutive game to grad the AFC trophy. Just forgot what year that was but it really happens in the PBA.
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May 20, 2024, 09:42:50 AM
<< their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's.....

That's what I also noticed, when the ROS shoots well, they likely win the game. Just like their game versus the TNT when they have a big lead at the beginning because of their great 3 point shooting, but the TNT had a big run in the 4th, lucky for ROS it does not translate to a win. Not only the 3 point shooting, I think they also need to improve their defense. It can't be denied that SMB is a very good team, but if DYIP were able to beat them in a game, then I guess ROS is capable of doing that also since this is a best of 7 series, more opportunity for them compared to the DYIP.

Hopefully they'll be able to find that adjustment especially with their defense they can't just let SMB to establish their confidence and keep attacking, the team is composed of very talented players as even their 3rd five can do the damage,  the only thing that RoS can do here is to play with both defense  and offense there's no room for any mistakes as SMB will surely attacks them if they see lapses.

Like you mentioned,  it's a 7 game series there's enough time for them to create system that will give them the right adjustments and maybe they'll be able to win  game from these series,.

If DYIP managed to take a game from SMB there's also a possibility that ROS may win. Just continue playing with everything that they can bring and hope that it went right for them to win.
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May 20, 2024, 09:20:00 AM
<< their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's.....

That's what I also noticed, when the ROS shoots well, they likely win the game. Just like their game versus the TNT when they have a big lead at the beginning because of their great 3 point shooting, but the TNT had a big run in the 4th, lucky for ROS it does not translate to a win. Not only the 3 point shooting, I think they also need to improve their defense. It can't be denied that SMB is a very good team, but if DYIP were able to beat them in a game, then I guess ROS is capable of doing that also since this is a best of 7 series, more opportunity for them compared to the DYIP.
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Now, we are going into the 2nd game of the SMB vs ROS series, can the ROS even the series as well? Let's see, but as for me, I had my bet on SMB at -5.5. I believe it's either SMB winning covering the spread or ROS will win outright.



Edit, the firsts has been concluded 53-45, SMB leading by 8 points but I don't like the spread in the live betting as SMB is only -7.5. I'm not quite skeptical if this bet will win as spread like that in this situation, normally the underdog will cover based on my experiencce.

Also the pregame total was 204. now live at 201.5, I'll take the over.

You win on the SMB bet as the defense was really superb, and they are healthier now with Terrence Romeo already back in the line up.
Unfortunately the over didn't go through as ROS is shooting bricks.

Yup, SMB dominated game 2 with that solid and healthy squad there's nothing that RoS tried doing to counter but it's really a team effort for SMB that really hurting both the defense and the offense of RoS it's so hard to beat a great team who's playing alongside with each other and already knows what to do when each players are inside the court.

They are just waiting for the play executions and always ready to take the shot when opportunity gave them, no time to be shy in taking shots as the trust with each other already established.

SMB is just too much for ROS. Although ROS are sharing the ball very well which is good but their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's and since that should be their main weapon to defeat SMB, with a low percentage that's an automatic loss. ROS really struggling to score in the paint as JMF is waiting their to block shots, and sometimes when JMF attack the paint, he can also grab some offensive rebounds which hurts more the ROS. Now, let's talk about game 3, what should be the strategy the ROS has to use? Because they can't afford to go 0-3 where no team have even comeback in the PBA history.
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Now, we are going into the 2nd game of the SMB vs ROS series, can the ROS even the series as well? Let's see, but as for me, I had my bet on SMB at -5.5. I believe it's either SMB winning covering the spread or ROS will win outright.



Edit, the firsts has been concluded 53-45, SMB leading by 8 points but I don't like the spread in the live betting as SMB is only -7.5. I'm not quite skeptical if this bet will win as spread like that in this situation, normally the underdog will cover based on my experiencce.

Also the pregame total was 204. now live at 201.5, I'll take the over.

You win on the SMB bet as the defense was really superb, and they are healthier now with Terrence Romeo already back in the line up.
Unfortunately the over didn't go through as ROS is shooting bricks.

Yup, SMB dominated game 2 with that solid and healthy squad there's nothing that RoS tried doing to counter but it's really a team effort for SMB that really hurting both the defense and the offense of RoS it's so hard to beat a great team who's playing alongside with each other and already knows what to do when each players are inside the court.

They are just waiting for the play executions and always ready to take the shot when opportunity gave them, no time to be shy in taking shots as the trust with each other already established.
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May 19, 2024, 11:45:08 PM
The series now tied for Ginebra vs Meralco. Although C. Stand score 41 points but it wasn't enough to beat the Meralco who tried to even the series. It was the complete team effort of Ginebra that made them beat a strong team like Ginebra, there shooting was great, they ended with 50% shooting, and have outrebounded Ginebra by 11 rebounds.
Nice series, the first game was close and the 2nd game it was Meralco who dominated the Ginebra.
I think this one is a good series, would probably go to 6 of 7 games.

C. Stand with 41 points probably his semi finals bets.


Now, we are going into the 2nd game of the SMB vs ROS series, can the ROS even the series as well? Let's see, but as for me, I had my bet on SMB at -5.5. I believe it's either SMB winning covering the spread or ROS will win outright.



Edit, the firsts has been concluded 53-45, SMB leading by 8 points but I don't like the spread in the live betting as SMB is only -7.5. I'm not quite skeptical if this bet will win as spread like that in this situation, normally the underdog will cover based on my experiencce.

Also the pregame total was 204. now live at 201.5, I'll take the over.

You win on the SMB bet as the defense was really superb, and they are healthier now with Terrence Romeo already back in the line up.
Unfortunately the over didn't go through as ROS is shooting bricks.
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