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Quote from: Russlenat on June 15, 2024, 10:06:48 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 14, 2024, 05:34:23 PM

One more away from winning a title for Meralco while SMB will try to push this series and snatch the title if ever they will win in game 6, congrats to all those who manage to win and better luck next time for those who lose.

It will be the first time for Meralco to win a championship in the All-Filipino Cup, and now that they are close to that, I'm sure they'll play harder in the next game (tomorrow) to finally get that win. As for the betting line, it's already available, and just like the previous game, SMB started at -3.5 and this could possibly move up to -5.5. Therefore, I believe now is the right time for bettors who think SMB will even the series. -3.5 should be easier to cover than -5.5.

Also, the total is now 185.5. I guess it will go under if Meralco wins, but over if SMB wins.

Something that will give them a decent credit beating both SMC teams though I still on the possibilities that SMB will push this and will try to have a do-or-die final game 7, not being bias as I really love SMB but with how Meralco controlling the tempo of the game, same with your assessments, if Meralco wins then chances to see an "Under" might take place while if SMB wins it might be the otherside, more on how the fans will react and how they will show supports to their chosen team, but for bettors more on studying how bookies place their odds and how they are playing with their offers.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 14, 2024, 05:34:23 PM

One more away from winning a title for Meralco while SMB will try to push this series and snatch the title if ever they will win in game 6, congrats to all those who manage to win and better luck next time for those who lose.

It will be the first time for Meralco to win a championship in the All-Filipino Cup, and now that they are close to that, I'm sure they'll play harder in the next game (tomorrow) to finally get that win. As for the betting line, it's already available, and just like the previous game, SMB started at -3.5 and this could possibly move up to -5.5. Therefore, I believe now is the right time for bettors who think SMB will even the series. -3.5 should be easier to cover than -5.5.

Also, the total is now 185.5. I guess it will go under if Meralco wins, but over if SMB wins.

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Quote from: Finestream on June 14, 2024, 08:02:43 AM

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Game 5 and the line is quite different. After SMB evened the series, they are now -3.5 vs Meralco. Not sure what it means, but if I were betting on SMB, I think I'd pass. Instead, I'll bet on the under if Meralco dictates the pace of the game. Though the last game went over, that was because SMB had been dominating. Now it's Game 5, and I think it will not happen again, although I think it's still possible SMB will win.

So, under 191.5.

Yup, if Meralco dictate again the tempo of this game if they can force the defense and protect both inside and outside attacks of SMB that "under" might be good though if things continue to be on the side of SMB if they outrun Meralco it possibly that it will be on the other side, best of luck for those who will going to place their bets, while for those who will watch then enjoy and be entertain supporting your team!

They are dictating the pace now in this very close game. They were able to make a good run, but SMB had their own as well, so Meralco is currently leading by only 1 point. As for the live total (over/under), it's still at 191.5; nothing has changed from the pregame line. I'm feeling quite nervous watching the game, but hopefully, I'll secure this win tonight.

Good win Kabayan as you predicted that Meralco will control the tempo of the game, eventhough Fajardo really shows that he earned that Best player of the conference award, but they can't win the game if he will single carry the offense, not a good way for SMB's coach not to rest him, not sure if how they are designing the play there are other role players who can contribute.

One more away from winning a title for Meralco while SMB will try to push this series and snatch the title if ever they will win in game 6, congrats to all those who manage to win and better luck next time for those who lose.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 14, 2024, 05:18:07 AM

Quote from: Finestream on June 14, 2024, 12:20:52 AM

Game 5 and the line is quite different. After SMB evened the series, they are now -3.5 vs Meralco. Not sure what it means, but if I were betting on SMB, I think I'd pass. Instead, I'll bet on the under if Meralco dictates the pace of the game. Though the last game went over, that was because SMB had been dominating. Now it's Game 5, and I think it will not happen again, although I think it's still possible SMB will win.

So, under 191.5.

Yup, if Meralco dictate again the tempo of this game if they can force the defense and protect both inside and outside attacks of SMB that "under" might be good though if things continue to be on the side of SMB if they outrun Meralco it possibly that it will be on the other side, best of luck for those who will going to place their bets, while for those who will watch then enjoy and be entertain supporting your team!

They are dictating the pace now in this very close game. They were able to make a good run, but SMB had their own as well, so Meralco is currently leading by only 1 point. As for the live total (over/under), it's still at 191.5; nothing has changed from the pregame line. I'm feeling quite nervous watching the game, but hopefully, I'll secure this win tonight.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 14, 2024, 05:52:45 AM

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SMB -5.5, and the line now is 183.5....

Looks fishy... I wouldn't mind the point spread, but the total really got me interested. What could be the reason? Currently, it's down to 182.5, and it might keep dropping. I bet there's a lot of money going to the under, which is why it keeps decreasing. It's less than an hour before the game starts, so let's see how low it will drop.

It makes sense though, considering the totals from the first three games (excluding game 4) have been very low:

Game 1: 179
Game 2: 189
Game 3: 182

Good luck to all of you, the game has started already, and as expected it's close game now. As per the bookie, under is currently the trend, so those who took the under, you should be happy now if the trend will continue as this could be an easy win. JMF is currently the leading scorer of SMB but the Meralco is does better with their offense as they were able to spread it well. IMO, Newsome should not score 40 here, 20 is fine as long as he gets his teammates involve, also the shooting of Maliksi is very important, he needs to shot well from the outside.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 14, 2024, 05:15:46 AM

SMB -5.5, and the line now is 183.5....

Looks fishy... I wouldn't mind the point spread, but the total really got me interested. What could be the reason? Currently, it's down to 182.5, and it might keep dropping. I bet there's a lot of money going to the under, which is why it keeps decreasing. It's less than an hour before the game starts, so let's see how low it will drop.

It makes sense though, considering the totals from the first three games (excluding game 4) have been very low:

Game 1: 179
Game 2: 189
Game 3: 182

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Quote from: Maslate on June 13, 2024, 07:33:54 AM

Exactly, if he will be give enough playing time, he will be more confident and could contribute more for the team. They don't have to play together with CJ, he can lead then 2nd unit as they are still like a first unit since the SMB's 2nd unit are very talented. Romeo only played with limited minutes, but next game I'm sure he'll earn more so watch out for that. Now, it's time for Meralco to make an adjustment, and I believe they don't have a secret weapon now, all their cards are already laid, so let's see if SMB can still dominate the Meralco in game 5.

If that's going to happen it can create good productions from him knowing his offensive threat and the respect from the defense side, he can create good opening for JMF or whoever is open outside, he don't need to play alongside with CJ as he can be a good replacement while the main scorer is resting, and like what you said the 2nd unit still competitive as the talent and capabilities of those squad can match up with the Bolts entire cores.

Quote from: Finestream on June 14, 2024, 12:20:52 AM

Game 5 and the line is quite different. After SMB evened the series, they are now -3.5 vs Meralco. Not sure what it means, but if I were betting on SMB, I think I'd pass. Instead, I'll bet on the under if Meralco dictates the pace of the game. Though the last game went over, that was because SMB had been dominating. Now it's Game 5, and I think it will not happen again, although I think it's still possible SMB will win.

So, under 191.5.

Yup, if Meralco dictate again the tempo of this game if they can force the defense and protect both inside and outside attacks of SMB that "under" might be good though if things continue to be on the side of SMB if they outrun Meralco it possibly that it will be on the other side, best of luck for those who will going to place their bets, while for those who will watch then enjoy and be entertain supporting your team!

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Quote from: Finestream on June 14, 2024, 12:20:52 AM

Game 5 and the line is quite different. After SMB evened the series, they are now -3.5 vs Meralco. Not sure what it means, but if I were betting on SMB, I think I'd pass. Instead, I'll bet on the under if Meralco dictates the pace of the game. Though the last game went over, that was because SMB had been dominating. Now it's Game 5, and I think it will not happen again, although I think it's still possible SMB will win.

So, under 191.5.

Big line movement is happening. So i was also monitoring the line and currently here's what we can see.

SMB -5.5, and the line now is 183.5... Great job @Finestream, that was a steal. However, even if the the total drop this low, I still think that it's more attractive to take it now. I believe game 5 will be very physical, SMB won't be reaching 100 again, probably even struggle to reach 90, and when that happen, Meralco could just easily cover the spread.

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Game 5 and the line is quite different. After SMB evened the series, they are now -3.5 vs Meralco. Not sure what it means, but if I were betting on SMB, I think I'd pass. Instead, I'll bet on the under if Meralco dictates the pace of the game. Though the last game went over, that was because SMB had been dominating. Now it's Game 5, and I think it will not happen again, although I think it's still possible SMB will win.

So, under 191.5.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 13, 2024, 07:17:30 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 04:47:28 PM

With their presence the defense and offense of Meralco will be adjusted, anticipating that both players will add more with SMB's offensive attack and even its not that much production still enough to help and look with the outcome playing them gives some rest for the starters and allow them to have that fresh legs once they come in and play again, I think if ever they'll continue being used this upcoming game 5 that extra rest for the starters and that good rotations of players will give them again an edge though knowing Meralco they will adjust and will also try to fight back, it will be more exciting seeing a game 7 do or die finals!

And Meralco has to make a good adjustment next game if they want to lead the series again. Romeo can generate points but he is a liability in the defense, but it still work for the SMB. I think he'll get more minutes next game to help CJ and maybe JMF will also score over 20+ points next game which will put Meralco in a tough situation. Whoever wins game 5 IMO will win the series, that's my guess, so since I like SMB to win the series, I'm betting on them in game 5.

I agree with you in terms of TR7's defensive capability but his presence inside the court will give Meralco a tough job guarding him and just how those bashers saying a ball hog will always find ways to score, and that's how TR7 will help his team, giving time for Perez and Fajardo to rest as he can takeover and provide numbers if he will get that minutes, from my personla opinion not being bias but TR7 have that "A" factor in terms of his offensive capabilities and as far as I remember he was bee a FMVP for this franchise and giving him enough time to play might change the tempo of this series, though not just him but also Manuel and Cruz who are also have that offensive threats if the design play will be on thier sides.

Exactly, if he will be give enough playing time, he will be more confident and could contribute more for the team. They don't have to play together with CJ, he can lead then 2nd unit as they are still like a first unit since the SMB's 2nd unit are very talented. Romeo only played with limited minutes, but next game I'm sure he'll earn more so watch out for that. Now, it's time for Meralco to make an adjustment, and I believe they don't have a secret weapon now, all their cards are already laid, so let's see if SMB can still dominate the Meralco in game 5.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 13, 2024, 12:59:16 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 04:47:28 PM

With their presence the defense and offense of Meralco will be adjusted, anticipating that both players will add more with SMB's offensive attack and even its not that much production still enough to help and look with the outcome playing them gives some rest for the starters and allow them to have that fresh legs once they come in and play again, I think if ever they'll continue being used this upcoming game 5 that extra rest for the starters and that good rotations of players will give them again an edge though knowing Meralco they will adjust and will also try to fight back, it will be more exciting seeing a game 7 do or die finals!

And Meralco has to make a good adjustment next game if they want to lead the series again. Romeo can generate points but he is a liability in the defense, but it still work for the SMB. I think he'll get more minutes next game to help CJ and maybe JMF will also score over 20+ points next game which will put Meralco in a tough situation. Whoever wins game 5 IMO will win the series, that's my guess, so since I like SMB to win the series, I'm betting on them in game 5.

I agree with you in terms of TR7's defensive capability but his presence inside the court will give Meralco a tough job guarding him and just how those bashers saying a ball hog will always find ways to score, and that's how TR7 will help his team, giving time for Perez and Fajardo to rest as he can takeover and provide numbers if he will get that minutes, from my personla opinion not being bias but TR7 have that "A" factor in terms of his offensive capabilities and as far as I remember he was bee a FMVP for this franchise and giving him enough time to play might change the tempo of this series, though not just him but also Manuel and Cruz who are also have that offensive threats if the design play will be on thier sides.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 13, 2024, 12:59:16 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 04:47:28 PM

With their presence the defense and offense of Meralco will be adjusted, anticipating that both players will add more with SMB's offensive attack and even its not that much production still enough to help and look with the outcome playing them gives some rest for the starters and allow them to have that fresh legs once they come in and play again, I think if ever they'll continue being used this upcoming game 5 that extra rest for the starters and that good rotations of players will give them again an edge though knowing Meralco they will adjust and will also try to fight back, it will be more exciting seeing a game 7 do or die finals!

And Meralco has to make a good adjustment next game if they want to lead the series again. Romeo can generate points but he is a liability in the defense, but it still work for the SMB. I think he'll get more minutes next game to help CJ and maybe JMF will also score over 20+ points next game which will put Meralco in a tough situation. Whoever wins game 5 IMO will win the series, that's my guess, so since I like SMB to win the series, I'm betting on them in game 5.

I'm seeing the trend here, and we could see another game 7 after the semi. What happened with Meralco vs Ginebra, when the series was tied 2-2, I think SMB will take game 5 and the Meralco will win in game 6 and 7. Hmmm... if that's going to be the script then I will be profitable, but honestly I like to back the Meralco here as if they can't win there's another chance of winning which is covering the handicap.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 04:47:28 PM

With their presence the defense and offense of Meralco will be adjusted, anticipating that both players will add more with SMB's offensive attack and even its not that much production still enough to help and look with the outcome playing them gives some rest for the starters and allow them to have that fresh legs once they come in and play again, I think if ever they'll continue being used this upcoming game 5 that extra rest for the starters and that good rotations of players will give them again an edge though knowing Meralco they will adjust and will also try to fight back, it will be more exciting seeing a game 7 do or die finals!

And Meralco has to make a good adjustment next game if they want to lead the series again. Romeo can generate points but he is a liability in the defense, but it still work for the SMB. I think he'll get more minutes next game to help CJ and maybe JMF will also score over 20+ points next game which will put Meralco in a tough situation. Whoever wins game 5 IMO will win the series, that's my guess, so since I like SMB to win the series, I'm betting on them in game 5.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 12, 2024, 07:33:56 AM

Quote from: Japinat on June 12, 2024, 06:36:07 AM

Quote from: Finestream on June 12, 2024, 06:25:50 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 06:22:55 AM

I like to see them taking those outside shots not just from Lassiter and some from Perez but also from Cruz, Ross and whoever shooters who will play they need to contribute if they want to tie this series.

I think this is the time where SMB will have a dominant win. Though I don't like the last 3 games they played, I still bet on them hoping this game will boost their confidence and that means they'll be winning in double digit. This game will start in 5 minutes, get that beer ready and support our team.

Strong start by SMB so far, they have a 6-0 run, this start is what they need to keep that energy high. I know it's not yet safe because it's too early but them spreading the scoring, will make the whole team confident. It's a must win for them and every momentum is favoring on the Meralco, so the pick is right, it should be SMB -5.5 tonight. Good luck and let's see if SMB could continue to dominate the game.

SMB now are using more players than the previous games, though they have a good start but Meralco was still able to tie the game until SMB had another run again. However, it's still too early to judge as we know Meralco won't be going away, they also like to win and take the 3-1 lead in the series.

Romeo and Manuel is back, this would help so the starters of the SMB could get some rest and SMB will be a little unpredictable with these players coming to play. As of this writing, Romeo has 3 and Manuel got 2 but SMB leading by double digits now with less than 1 minute in the 2nd quarter.

With their presence the defense and offense of Meralco will be adjusted, anticipating that both players will add more with SMB's offensive attack and even its not that much production still enough to help and look with the outcome playing them gives some rest for the starters and allow them to have that fresh legs once they come in and play again, I think if ever they'll continue being used this upcoming game 5 that extra rest for the starters and that good rotations of players will give them again an edge though knowing Meralco they will adjust and will also try to fight back, it will be more exciting seeing a game 7 do or die finals!

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 06:22:55 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 01:57:53 AM

They still got that handicap even Meralco already win twice but it's more on the gambler's analysis and how they will play with the bookies, I guess it's another low scoring game as Meralco really play well with their defense, not unless SMB start bring TR7 back and adds up the offensive threat not sure but according to some social media post it's TR7 who choose not to play as he's still injured not sure if how true is that, but if ever that SMB will bring him in, the chance for JMF to catch that easy short jumpshot as TR7 can attract the defense and just drop that ball to JMF, something that I don't see with all those guards who are playing right now, they are more on trying to score, I'm expecting Cruz and TR7 if ever they both being use this coming game 4.

The other players of SMB needs to step up, last time during their championship run, we've seen players like Cruz and Trollano who are making big contributions in the series. But here, it seems like they struggled a lot, especially J. Cruz who only scored 7 points last game from 2-10 shooting.

the 3 point shooting of SMB in game 3 was fine as they have 43%, which is high, but look at their attempts, they only had 72 while 84 for Meralco, so I guess this is another low scoring game especially for SMB. I think SMB also need to limit their turnovers, they had 15 last game.

Yeah, that's the reason why I brought their names as I see their productions seems they are not in that same caliber as how they help the squad the last time they trip to the finals, they've been limited I'm not sure because of how Meralco played thier defense or becuase of that JMF design play that's why they are limited touching the ball, they need to be more aggressive here as they need to win to avoid that 3-1 Meralco leading the series.

I like to see them taking those outside shots not just from Lassiter and some from Perez but also from Cruz, Ross and whoever shooters who will play they need to contribute if they want to tie this series.

SMB were able to even the series with a big win 110-101.. First time they score that high in this series, so I think they already found their rthym and might continue their great shooting next game. SMB's 2nd unit outscored the bench of the Meralco, something the SMB has been lacking in the past few games.

Names like;

Romeo 7
Manuel 8
Cruz 5
Trollano 8

These numbers are already big enough to help the team in this big win, so hopefully they'll continue to build thier confidence as the series are now down to the best of 3. I didn't finish watching the game but it should be JMF who is the best player. Also, just a little information from those who didn't watch the whole game, Newsome here had a career high with 40 points.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 12, 2024, 06:36:07 AM

Quote from: Finestream on June 12, 2024, 06:25:50 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 06:22:55 AM

I like to see them taking those outside shots not just from Lassiter and some from Perez but also from Cruz, Ross and whoever shooters who will play they need to contribute if they want to tie this series.

I think this is the time where SMB will have a dominant win. Though I don't like the last 3 games they played, I still bet on them hoping this game will boost their confidence and that means they'll be winning in double digit. This game will start in 5 minutes, get that beer ready and support our team.

Strong start by SMB so far, they have a 6-0 run, this start is what they need to keep that energy high. I know it's not yet safe because it's too early but them spreading the scoring, will make the whole team confident. It's a must win for them and every momentum is favoring on the Meralco, so the pick is right, it should be SMB -5.5 tonight. Good luck and let's see if SMB could continue to dominate the game.

SMB now are using more players than the previous games, though they have a good start but Meralco was still able to tie the game until SMB had another run again. However, it's still too early to judge as we know Meralco won't be going away, they also like to win and take the 3-1 lead in the series.

Romeo and Manuel is back, this would help so the starters of the SMB could get some rest and SMB will be a little unpredictable with these players coming to play. As of this writing, Romeo has 3 and Manuel got 2 but SMB leading by double digits now with less than 1 minute in the 2nd quarter.

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Quote from: Finestream on June 12, 2024, 06:25:50 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 06:22:55 AM

I like to see them taking those outside shots not just from Lassiter and some from Perez but also from Cruz, Ross and whoever shooters who will play they need to contribute if they want to tie this series.

I think this is the time where SMB will have a dominant win. Though I don't like the last 3 games they played, I still bet on them hoping this game will boost their confidence and that means they'll be winning in double digit. This game will start in 5 minutes, get that beer ready and support our team.

Strong start by SMB so far, they have a 6-0 run, this start is what they need to keep that energy high. I know it's not yet safe because it's too early but them spreading the scoring, will make the whole team confident. It's a must win for them and every momentum is favoring on the Meralco, so the pick is right, it should be SMB -5.5 tonight. Good luck and let's see if SMB could continue to dominate the game.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 06:22:55 AM

I like to see them taking those outside shots not just from Lassiter and some from Perez but also from Cruz, Ross and whoever shooters who will play they need to contribute if they want to tie this series.

I think this is the time where SMB will have a dominant win. Though I don't like the last 3 games they played, I still bet on them hoping this game will boost their confidence and that means they'll be winning in double digit. This game will start in 5 minutes, get that beer ready and support our team.

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 12, 2024, 03:17:28 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 01:57:53 AM

They still got that handicap even Meralco already win twice but it's more on the gambler's analysis and how they will play with the bookies, I guess it's another low scoring game as Meralco really play well with their defense, not unless SMB start bring TR7 back and adds up the offensive threat not sure but according to some social media post it's TR7 who choose not to play as he's still injured not sure if how true is that, but if ever that SMB will bring him in, the chance for JMF to catch that easy short jumpshot as TR7 can attract the defense and just drop that ball to JMF, something that I don't see with all those guards who are playing right now, they are more on trying to score, I'm expecting Cruz and TR7 if ever they both being use this coming game 4.

The other players of SMB needs to step up, last time during their championship run, we've seen players like Cruz and Trollano who are making big contributions in the series. But here, it seems like they struggled a lot, especially J. Cruz who only scored 7 points last game from 2-10 shooting.

the 3 point shooting of SMB in game 3 was fine as they have 43%, which is high, but look at their attempts, they only had 72 while 84 for Meralco, so I guess this is another low scoring game especially for SMB. I think SMB also need to limit their turnovers, they had 15 last game.

Yeah, that's the reason why I brought their names as I see their productions seems they are not in that same caliber as how they help the squad the last time they trip to the finals, they've been limited I'm not sure because of how Meralco played thier defense or becuase of that JMF design play that's why they are limited touching the ball, they need to be more aggressive here as they need to win to avoid that 3-1 Meralco leading the series.

I like to see them taking those outside shots not just from Lassiter and some from Perez but also from Cruz, Ross and whoever shooters who will play they need to contribute if they want to tie this series.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 12, 2024, 01:57:53 AM

They still got that handicap even Meralco already win twice but it's more on the gambler's analysis and how they will play with the bookies, I guess it's another low scoring game as Meralco really play well with their defense, not unless SMB start bring TR7 back and adds up the offensive threat not sure but according to some social media post it's TR7 who choose not to play as he's still injured not sure if how true is that, but if ever that SMB will bring him in, the chance for JMF to catch that easy short jumpshot as TR7 can attract the defense and just drop that ball to JMF, something that I don't see with all those guards who are playing right now, they are more on trying to score, I'm expecting Cruz and TR7 if ever they both being use this coming game 4.

The other players of SMB needs to step up, last time during their championship run, we've seen players like Cruz and Trollano who are making big contributions in the series. But here, it seems like they struggled a lot, especially J. Cruz who only scored 7 points last game from 2-10 shooting.

the 3 point shooting of SMB in game 3 was fine as they have 43%, which is high, but look at their attempts, they only had 72 while 84 for Meralco, so I guess this is another low scoring game especially for SMB. I think SMB also need to limit their turnovers, they had 15 last game.

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