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Quote from: Fredomago on June 09, 2024, 10:26:48 PM

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SMB was surprised by Meralco's big run in the first quarter, but as usual, they managed to come back, and we are seeing a tie ball game now. This is a crucial game for both teams; it's game 3, and whoever takes the lead in the series will not feel much pressure going into game 4. So, I think this game is still going to be low scoring, and Meralco could win but would easily cover the handicap if they lose again. ..

And Meralco has taken the lead in the series with a victory tonight.

Newsome had a winning shot, that was a 3 point shot that gave them a good lead, and SMB is trying to respond with a shot from CJ but he miss badly. The series now looks very exciting, I didn't expect to see it this way, in fact this series could have been 3-0 if not for the heroic shot of Marcio in game 2.

Yeah, Meralco snatch the game against SMB and the way they manage to takeover seems that they really in the mission of earning that respect, good play and execution for Meralco on that last play while it's also a good call for SMB though CJ miised that shot, very close and crucial and at the end only one team will win.

Still far from the conclusion for this series, SMB can tie it up again or Meralco can take a 3-1 lead in their next encounter, a matter of good adjustments and how they will going to play their system.

I guess next time it will still be Meralco leading the series, but the next 2 games after that will be won by SMB to tie the series, which means we will see a Game 7 in the Finals. The NBA Finals have been boring so far since the Celtics have already a commanding lead of 2-0, so I'm hoping in this PBA Finals we will see a Game 7.

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Quote from: Finestream on June 09, 2024, 07:56:35 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on June 09, 2024, 06:03:43 AM

SMB was surprised by Meralco's big run in the first quarter, but as usual, they managed to come back, and we are seeing a tie ball game now. This is a crucial game for both teams; it's game 3, and whoever takes the lead in the series will not feel much pressure going into game 4. So, I think this game is still going to be low scoring, and Meralco could win but would easily cover the handicap if they lose again. ..

And Meralco has taken the lead in the series with a victory tonight.

Newsome had a winning shot, that was a 3 point shot that gave them a good lead, and SMB is trying to respond with a shot from CJ but he miss badly. The series now looks very exciting, I didn't expect to see it this way, in fact this series could have been 3-0 if not for the heroic shot of Marcio in game 2.

Yeah, Meralco snatch the game against SMB and the way they manage to takeover seems that they really in the mission of earning that respect, good play and execution for Meralco on that last play while it's also a good call for SMB though CJ miised that shot, very close and crucial and at the end only one team will win.

Still far from the conclusion for this series, SMB can tie it up again or Meralco can take a 3-1 lead in their next encounter, a matter of good adjustments and how they will going to play their system.

Good luck mga Kabayan! enjoy watching the series!

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Quote from: Finestream on June 09, 2024, 07:56:35 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on June 09, 2024, 06:03:43 AM

SMB was surprised by Meralco's big run in the first quarter, but as usual, they managed to come back, and we are seeing a tie ball game now. This is a crucial game for both teams; it's game 3, and whoever takes the lead in the series will not feel much pressure going into game 4. So, I think this game is still going to be low scoring, and Meralco could win but would easily cover the handicap if they lose again. ..

And Meralco has taken the lead in the series with a victory tonight.

Newsome had a winning shot, that was a 3 point shot that gave them a good lead, and SMB is trying to respond with a shot from CJ but he miss badly. The series now looks very exciting, I didn't expect to see it this way, in fact this series could have been 3-0 if not for the heroic shot of Marcio in game 2.

They never failed to amaze us; games 1 to 3 were all very exciting. Again, the defense of Meralco was on display, and it was their consistency that made them win the game. The ball movement was pretty awesome, and maybe that's the reason why everyone was contributing.

JMF really got tired because he was getting rebounds, and things were not easy for him inside. If we look at the rebounding department, SMB got outrebounded by 7. It should be the other way, as SMB are bigger and JMF should be dominating the paint. What Meralco is doing is very quick rotations to defend the paint. Though the bigs of Meralco are in foul trouble, they were effective in limiting JMF again.

Top scorers for both teams:
Newsome: 26
CJ Perez: 18 with poor shooting (6/19)

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 09, 2024, 06:03:43 AM

SMB was surprised by Meralco's big run in the first quarter, but as usual, they managed to come back, and we are seeing a tie ball game now. This is a crucial game for both teams; it's game 3, and whoever takes the lead in the series will not feel much pressure going into game 4. So, I think this game is still going to be low scoring, and Meralco could win but would easily cover the handicap if they lose again. ..

And Meralco has taken the lead in the series with a victory tonight.

Newsome had a winning shot, that was a 3 point shot that gave them a good lead, and SMB is trying to respond with a shot from CJ but he miss badly. The series now looks very exciting, I didn't expect to see it this way, in fact this series could have been 3-0 if not for the heroic shot of Marcio in game 2.

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SMB was surprised by Meralco's big run in the first quarter, but as usual, they managed to come back, and we are seeing a tie ball game now. This is a crucial game for both teams; it's game 3, and whoever takes the lead in the series will not feel much pressure going into game 4. So, I think this game is still going to be low scoring, and Meralco could win but would easily cover the handicap if they lose again. ..

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After game 2, my interest has shifted to Meralco and I'll be betting on them in game 3.

This is the Finals that are going to be fun to watch. At first, we were thinking that Meralco does not stand a chance against a mighty SMB, but they were able to find a strategy to limit SMB on their scoring. If it was another team, SMB could easily score 100 points and more, but Meralco was able to limit them.

Although Meralco lost in Game 2, if we were watching the game, we would easily understand that SMB just got lucky and was able to come back and win. Everything was in favor of Meralco, especially the number of timeouts, but they just could not push for a win in that game. Game 3 comes this Sunday, and the arena should have at least a lot of people watching. It's not Ginebra, but this SMB team is more popular than Meralco, so somehow they could attract the crowd to watch the game.

Yes you are right, most expect that SMB will dominates them but Meralco manage to find the right system to limits SMB's productions, that JMF edge inside is not working well, Meralco's defense really giving Fajardo a hard time that on time double team keeps bothering him to create his shots, just like what you said that game 2 luck allows SMB to survive and snatch the game against them, almost getting that comfortable edge 2-0 but now the series were tied.

Let's see if what adjustments both teams will implement and how players will execute their offense and defense to win the game.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 08, 2024, 03:35:14 AM

After game 2, my interest has shifted to Meralco and I'll be betting on them in game 3.

This is the Finals that are going to be fun to watch. At first, we were thinking that Meralco does not stand a chance against a mighty SMB, but they were able to find a strategy to limit SMB on their scoring. If it was another team, SMB could easily score 100 points and more, but Meralco was able to limit them.

Although Meralco lost in Game 2, if we were watching the game, we would easily understand that SMB just got lucky and was able to come back and win. Everything was in favor of Meralco, especially the number of timeouts, but they just could not push for a win in that game. Game 3 comes this Sunday, and the arena should have at least a lot of people watching. It's not Ginebra, but this SMB team is more popular than Meralco, so somehow they could attract the crowd to watch the game.

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Bolts quickly made their own run and now change the tempo of the game, still early but Bolts is now in the lead if this momentum continue then we might see Bolts taking another control, though it can be a play for bettors and how analysis will take place, for SMB fans this is the best timing but for Meralco backer it's now another risk for taking this period betting for either ML or Handicap. It's anyone's game as both teams are really fighting for position, Bolts to have a a twice advantage while SMB to even and reset the series to the best of 5 games.

Good luck mga kabayan! same with you, I want my team to win but I'm not betting no available funds for now.

Wrong call.

SMB really can't dominate the Bolts, they are struggling early but just got lucky to end with a win, that's because of the Marcio's 3 point shot that gave them a 1 point lead. If that didn't sink, it could be 0-2 for them.

Not happy despite SMB wins because the spread was not covered, but that's fine, the series is now tied at 1-1, maybe next time I'll hit it right. By the way, the last 2 games went under, this is a very physical game so far, so I wouldn't be surprise if either team won't be able to score 100 points.

Yeah, I was thinking SMB would have a blowout win in game 2 but they are really having trouble finding their offense. Marcio saved them, that's the story, because if there was no clutch shooting by him, SMB would be in big trouble. From what I've seen so far, it seems like Meralco has a better chance of winning the series, I mean JMF could not dominate the paint, and the SMB's outside shooting aren't so effective.

After game 2, my interest has shifted to Meralco and I'll be betting on them in game 3.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 07, 2024, 07:06:55 AM

Bolts quickly made their own run and now change the tempo of the game, still early but Bolts is now in the lead if this momentum continue then we might see Bolts taking another control, though it can be a play for bettors and how analysis will take place, for SMB fans this is the best timing but for Meralco backer it's now another risk for taking this period betting for either ML or Handicap. It's anyone's game as both teams are really fighting for position, Bolts to have a a twice advantage while SMB to even and reset the series to the best of 5 games.

Good luck mga kabayan! same with you, I want my team to win but I'm not betting no available funds for now.

Wrong call.

SMB really can't dominate the Bolts, they are struggling early but just got lucky to end with a win, that's because of the Marcio's 3 point shot that gave them a 1 point lead. If that didn't sink, it could be 0-2 for them.

Not happy despite SMB wins because the spread was not covered, but that's fine, the series is now tied at 1-1, maybe next time I'll hit it right. By the way, the last 2 games went under, this is a very physical game so far, so I wouldn't be surprise if either team won't be able to score 100 points.

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 07, 2024, 06:47:28 AM

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There's a big line movement happened, from -5.5 now up to -9.5. Whoever move that line is sure enough SMB is gonna win. Here's some logic, who would not take Meralco +9.5 after winning in game 1? This looks very easy to judge. Anyone riding my theory?

What's happening? This isn't right? I guess the mafia are now playing and try to cash out easy money. This line is really suspicious and we don't even have an idea what's happening inside. A typical gambler who does not care for the line movement would easily take +9.5, and probably even meralco moneyline. Betting line movement like this is hard to pass, I'd go with you guys, falling on your theory @jap.

The game has started, and SMB is taking control in the first quarter. If they continue to dominate and lead by double digits, that might suggest the theory is right. However, it's still too early to tell, as a lot can happen in a PBA game. I've seen teams come back from being down by 20 points to win by double digits.

I'm not betting on this game; I'm just watching for fun. However, I'd like to see SMB win to even the series. A long series is always exciting, and I'm hoping for a game 7 to make it even more thrilling.

Bolts quickly made their own run and now change the tempo of the game, still early but Bolts is now in the lead if this momentum continue then we might see Bolts taking another control, though it can be a play for bettors and how analysis will take place, for SMB fans this is the best timing but for Meralco backer it's now another risk for taking this period betting for either ML or Handicap. It's anyone's game as both teams are really fighting for position, Bolts to have a a twice advantage while SMB to even and reset the series to the best of 5 games.

Good luck mga kabayan! same with you, I want my team to win but I'm not betting no available funds for now.

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Quote from: Finestream on June 07, 2024, 05:44:50 AM

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There's a big line movement happened, from -5.5 now up to -9.5. Whoever move that line is sure enough SMB is gonna win. Here's some logic, who would not take Meralco +9.5 after winning in game 1? This looks very easy to judge. Anyone riding my theory?

What's happening? This isn't right? I guess the mafia are now playing and try to cash out easy money. This line is really suspicious and we don't even have an idea what's happening inside. A typical gambler who does not care for the line movement would easily take +9.5, and probably even meralco moneyline. Betting line movement like this is hard to pass, I'd go with you guys, falling on your theory @jap.

The game has started, and SMB is taking control in the first quarter. If they continue to dominate and lead by double digits, that might suggest the theory is right. However, it's still too early to tell, as a lot can happen in a PBA game. I've seen teams come back from being down by 20 points to win by double digits.

I'm not betting on this game; I'm just watching for fun. However, I'd like to see SMB win to even the series. A long series is always exciting, and I'm hoping for a game 7 to make it even more thrilling.

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There's a big line movement happened, from -5.5 now up to -9.5. Whoever move that line is sure enough SMB is gonna win. Here's some logic, who would not take Meralco +9.5 after winning in game 1? This looks very easy to judge. Anyone riding my theory?

What's happening? This isn't right? I guess the mafia are now playing and try to cash out easy money. This line is really suspicious and we don't even have an idea what's happening inside. A typical gambler who does not care for the line movement would easily take +9.5, and probably even meralco moneyline. Betting line movement like this is hard to pass, I'd go with you guys, falling on your theory @jap.

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The line for Game 2 is up. Those who believe that SMB will bounce back to even the series can get them at -5.5 now. They had a good lead in Game 1 with 7 points, so I think a great strategy is to bet on them to cover the spread in the first half. If they don't cover in the first half, you can double down in the second half. There's no way SMB will go down 0-2 against the Meralco Bolts.

As for the total scoring, if SMB is dictating the game, it should easily go over. So, my prediction for Game 2 is to bet on the team total over for SMB and the combined total over for both teams.

There's a little movement on the point spread, as you posted, it was -5.5 but now it's already -7.5 for a 1.90 odds. Still over 4 hours before game 2, I'm gonna observe this, if the spread keeps rising, I'm gonna hammer the SMB here to win and cover. As to the total, it's the same as in game 2 at 190.5, if SMB gonna win, this should go over 190.5, but on the other hand, it's also possible that it will be a scoring game if SMB will fully dominate the Meralco Bolts.

So the -5.5 is already a steal now as SMB is looking to even the series. They scored only 86 points, that was their lowest this season IMO, and I think it will not happen again tonight. SMB only attempted 72 which is quite low compared to their previous games.

If we look back to their previous games when they swept the ROS, here are the statistics.

game 1 91 attempts
game 2 93 attempts
game 3 85 attempts
game 4 86 attempts

I am seeing an over for SMB team total here, it's currently over 97.5.

The line movement points out that SMB is gonna win this game via blowout, just like how Ginebra respond to the Meralco when they loss to them.

There's a big line movement happened, from -5.5 now up to -9.5. Whoever move that line is sure enough SMB is gonna win. Here's some logic, who would not take Meralco +9.5 after winning in game 1? This looks very easy to judge. Anyone riding my theory?

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Quote from: Finestream on June 07, 2024, 01:50:16 AM

Quote from: Maslate on June 06, 2024, 06:24:50 AM

The line for Game 2 is up. Those who believe that SMB will bounce back to even the series can get them at -5.5 now. They had a good lead in Game 1 with 7 points, so I think a great strategy is to bet on them to cover the spread in the first half. If they don't cover in the first half, you can double down in the second half. There's no way SMB will go down 0-2 against the Meralco Bolts.

As for the total scoring, if SMB is dictating the game, it should easily go over. So, my prediction for Game 2 is to bet on the team total over for SMB and the combined total over for both teams.

There's a little movement on the point spread, as you posted, it was -5.5 but now it's already -7.5 for a 1.90 odds. Still over 4 hours before game 2, I'm gonna observe this, if the spread keeps rising, I'm gonna hammer the SMB here to win and cover. As to the total, it's the same as in game 2 at 190.5, if SMB gonna win, this should go over 190.5, but on the other hand, it's also possible that it will be a scoring game if SMB will fully dominate the Meralco Bolts.

So the -5.5 is already a steal now as SMB is looking to even the series. They scored only 86 points, that was their lowest this season IMO, and I think it will not happen again tonight. SMB only attempted 72 which is quite low compared to their previous games.

If we look back to their previous games when they swept the ROS, here are the statistics.

game 1 91 attempts
game 2 93 attempts
game 3 85 attempts
game 4 86 attempts

I am seeing an over for SMB team total here, it's currently over 97.5.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 06, 2024, 06:24:50 AM

The line for Game 2 is up. Those who believe that SMB will bounce back to even the series can get them at -5.5 now. They had a good lead in Game 1 with 7 points, so I think a great strategy is to bet on them to cover the spread in the first half. If they don't cover in the first half, you can double down in the second half. There's no way SMB will go down 0-2 against the Meralco Bolts.

As for the total scoring, if SMB is dictating the game, it should easily go over. So, my prediction for Game 2 is to bet on the team total over for SMB and the combined total over for both teams.

There's a little movement on the point spread, as you posted, it was -5.5 but now it's already -7.5 for a 1.90 odds. Still over 4 hours before game 2, I'm gonna observe this, if the spread keeps rising, I'm gonna hammer the SMB here to win and cover. As to the total, it's the same as in game 2 at 190.5, if SMB gonna win, this should go over 190.5, but on the other hand, it's also possible that it will be a scoring game if SMB will fully dominate the Meralco Bolts.

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Quote from: Finestream on June 06, 2024, 04:29:25 AM

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Well done Meralco Bolts. Although it's still a first game and there could be more. But aside from this championship, there is a good talk that's happening right now. It's possible that with the next season/conference, there can be another guest team and there won't be height limits anymore for the imports as they say. This might be the time that many fans are going to watch and come see if ever Dwight Howard is going to be taken by whichever team.
(https://www.rappler.com/sports/pba/no-height-limit-imports-potential-guest-team-spice-up-next-season/)

They better get Dwight because he is very much interested in playing in the PBA. That would boost the viewership and for sure fans will be watching in the arena. PBA needs some good advertisement now, because even if they are denying they are sinking, but that's what we are seeing as a fan.

Yes, for sure that he's going to full all of those seats in the arenas or courts where they are going to play. Smart Araneta will surely be full when the time comes that Dwight will play for any team. He has already showed his interest on it so, with the right contract and amount, sure he'd like to jump on it. I don't know why they're putting a lot of denials about that the league is sinking because it's being seen. Even on this championship, people are thinking that it's going to be SMB that will become a champ. But we shall see that and it's a good starter to see Meralco took game 1.

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The line for Game 2 is up. Those who believe that SMB will bounce back to even the series can get them at -5.5 now. They had a good lead in Game 1 with 7 points, so I think a great strategy is to bet on them to cover the spread in the first half. If they don't cover in the first half, you can double down in the second half. There's no way SMB will go down 0-2 against the Meralco Bolts.

As for the total scoring, if SMB is dictating the game, it should easily go over. So, my prediction for Game 2 is to bet on the team total over for SMB and the combined total over for both teams.

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Quote from: ultrloa on June 06, 2024, 04:36:57 AM

Yeah that also can boost the interest of people since a lot of Filipino fans love Dwight and if they successfully acquire him then provably this could make the next conference to be more exciting since majority want to see how Dwight perform in Philippines and if he can dominate the league.

Yup, if they bring Dwight for sure it will create good impact and the effect will bring fans interest, who knows maybe that's the spark that PBA is looking to bring that old glory to the league, though still too early for that as we all know how the league is being controlled by few big names behind, but not to be a killjoy I also want to see Dwight playing for sure our local players will be inspired playing with him or against him.

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For sure Meralco already know how to figure out defending JMF since they already know how the guy play. So its great that they overcome the big challenges and perform really better on game one. But I expect something more great on game two since for sure that star studied SMB won't let Meralco get another win. But I expect this to reach at game 7 since usually this is how PBA work since they are pure business and nothing surprising about that.

If the series will reach game 7 it will be a profitable series for PBA, I guess after that win SMB will find that counter they somehow try to keep that same design play for JMF but Meralco manage to bother him inside so afdjustments will be needed and for sure if they can't make it inside their outside shooters will be ready this upcoming game 2, SMB will try to tie this series to kill that confidence from Meralco.

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Well done Meralco Bolts. Although it's still a first game and there could be more. But aside from this championship, there is a good talk that's happening right now. It's possible that with the next season/conference, there can be another guest team and there won't be height limits anymore for the imports as they say. This might be the time that many fans are going to watch and come see if ever Dwight Howard is going to be taken by whichever team.
(https://www.rappler.com/sports/pba/no-height-limit-imports-potential-guest-team-spice-up-next-season/)

They better get Dwight because he is very much interested in playing in the PBA. That would boost the viewership and for sure fans will be watching in the arena. PBA needs some good advertisement now, because even if they are denying they are sinking, but that's what we are seeing as a fan.

On the game 1 result, I was not surprised at all, Meralco played good defense and they'll able to elimiante the hot 3 point shooting of SMB. JMF could not dominate inside as he gets double easily and Meralco's big men, especially are not afraid to defend him, although both bigs of Meralco were in foul trouble, but they were able to finish the game without getting fouled out.

Yeah that also can boost the interest of people since a lot of Filipino fans love Dwight and if they successfully acquire him then provably this could make the next conference to be more exciting since majority want to see how Dwight perform in Philippines and if he can dominate the league.

For sure Meralco already know how to figure out defending JMF since they already know how the guy play. So its great that they overcome the big challenges and perform really better on game one. But I expect something more great on game two since for sure that star studied SMB won't let Meralco get another win. But I expect this to reach at game 7 since usually this is how PBA work since they are pure business and nothing surprising about that.

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Quote from: blockman on June 05, 2024, 06:09:15 PM

Well done Meralco Bolts. Although it's still a first game and there could be more. But aside from this championship, there is a good talk that's happening right now. It's possible that with the next season/conference, there can be another guest team and there won't be height limits anymore for the imports as they say. This might be the time that many fans are going to watch and come see if ever Dwight Howard is going to be taken by whichever team.
(https://www.rappler.com/sports/pba/no-height-limit-imports-potential-guest-team-spice-up-next-season/)

They better get Dwight because he is very much interested in playing in the PBA. That would boost the viewership and for sure fans will be watching in the arena. PBA needs some good advertisement now, because even if they are denying they are sinking, but that's what we are seeing as a fan.

On the game 1 result, I was not surprised at all, Meralco played good defense and they'll able to elimiante the hot 3 point shooting of SMB. JMF could not dominate inside as he gets double easily and Meralco's big men, especially are not afraid to defend him, although both bigs of Meralco were in foul trouble, but they were able to finish the game without getting fouled out.

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