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Quote from: Vaculin on November 26, 2020, 11:53:15 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on November 26, 2020, 06:14:52 PM

I'd like to believe that but Phoenix vs TNT has been hitting the overs in their past games, hopefully you are correct here.

You also have a point here, the game could go over because they are shooting 3s very well.
Well, this is gambling, so I just have to stick with my prediction here, regardless of the result, I'm happy that we will be seeing a do or die game today.

Congrats, seems like the game went under, I wasn't familiar with the over/under points but with the scoring which is only 172 points, that's an automatic under. Great game by TNT, they were in control of this game and it's unfortunate that Phoenix 3 point shooting are not falling, anyway, they still have to be thankful with this as they have achieve higher than what is expected to them.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 26, 2020, 06:14:52 PM

I'd like to believe that but Phoenix vs TNT has been hitting the overs in their past games, hopefully you are correct here.

You also have a point here, the game could go over because they are shooting 3s very well.
Well, this is gambling, so I just have to stick with my prediction here, regardless of the result, I'm happy that we will be seeing a do or die game today.

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Quote from: Vaculin on November 26, 2020, 06:41:24 AM

Line is up early today, you can place your bet now.

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Good luck to whatever team you guys think you'll bet, may it be on the underdog or the favorites.

Thanks mate for sharing the betting odds, I made some check now and it seems there's a little increase on the favorites in ML, good for those who would bet on the underdog for the game later.

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One thing I believe, since this is a do or die game, it will be a low scoring ball game.

I'd like to believe that but Phoenix vs TNT has been hitting the overs in their past games, hopefully you are correct here.

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Line is up early today, you can place your bet now.

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Good luck to whatever team you guys think you'll bet, may it be on the underdog or the favorites.
One thing I believe, since this is a do or die game, it will be a low scoring ball game.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 26, 2020, 03:08:26 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on November 25, 2020, 06:28:17 PM

Both series are now in a win or go home state. What's your bet guys? I'm hoping it will be Meralco vs Phoenix for a change.

I think Meralco will lose though they have the momentum now, I believe the Finals will be between the Ginebra Gin kings and the Phoenix Fuel Masters.
It's a good series IMO, Abueva will still be unstoppable and I like the Phoenix chances against the popular team Gin kings in the Finals.

Betting on the teams I've mentioned, Ginebra (favorites), Phoenix (underdog), I think I'll put a parlay too .

Good luck on that bud, it seems like the series was so unpredictable, we though Ginebra would end the series but Meralco became the better team in that game, and it's always a domination by them at the beginning. I don't know which team will win but sticking to Ginebra is the right thing to do because they "NEVER SAY DIE".

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 25, 2020, 06:28:17 PM

Both series are now in a win or go home state. What's your bet guys? I'm hoping it will be Meralco vs Phoenix for a change.

I think Meralco will lose though they have the momentum now, I believe the Finals will be between the Ginebra Gin kings and the Phoenix Fuel Masters.
It's a good series IMO, Abueva will still be unstoppable and I like the Phoenix chances against the popular team Gin kings in the Finals.

Betting on the teams I've mentioned, Ginebra (favorites), Phoenix (underdog), I think I'll put a parlay too .

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Quote from: Vaculin on November 25, 2020, 06:02:27 PM

I think people think that it was rigged for the PBA to make more money, hmmmm...

All Teams are doing their best. We can see that they are fair. It's just that these referees sometimes should be liable for these missed, sensitive, and wrong calls as just what they did to a referee before during the elimination. People maybe think now that the PBA just wants to maximize the potential earnings now that they are playing without the audience and only rely on advertisements.

Both series are now in a win or go home state. What's your bet guys? I'm hoping it will be Meralco vs Phoenix for a change.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 25, 2020, 05:03:28 PM

Quote from: Finestream on November 25, 2020, 02:16:17 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on November 25, 2020, 01:02:48 AM

I'm surprised with the TNT vs Phoenix odds, Phoenix is currently at +5.5.. I don't like it, it looks like a trap and we might see some "luto" in this game.
TNT will win and we will see a game 5, what do you think?

I'm also surprise with the odds, who would thought that Phoenix is +5.5 after it beat TNT in 2 straight games. With this uncertainty of mind, I think I will go with the total points, and since it's a do or die game for the TNT, they will put their defense here, hence it's gonna end up a low scoring game.

TNT won the game but it doesn't covered the handicap, lucky to those Phoenix fans who bet with this huge handicap. Most of the time being wise is better than to allow your emotion as a fan, it's all about money and you don't need to risk if you do see advantages from the bookmakers grab and enjoy.

Both series have their own do or die version, TNT and Bolts force this one up in both close matches. Time for the fans now to use their reserve funds to allocate with this semi final games. BGSM and TNT both shares the favorites but who knows if what adjustment both Bolts and Phoenix will do trying to win it over and reached the finals.

It was suppose to be a good comeback by the Phoenix but Wright struggled in the 4th quarter, still nice game for both, both series will go game 5 and that double header will be seen in Saturday, I think people think that it was rigged for the PBA to make more money, hmmmm...

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Quote from: Finestream on November 25, 2020, 02:16:17 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on November 25, 2020, 01:02:48 AM

I'm surprised with the TNT vs Phoenix odds, Phoenix is currently at +5.5.. I don't like it, it looks like a trap and we might see some "luto" in this game.
TNT will win and we will see a game 5, what do you think?

I'm also surprise with the odds, who would thought that Phoenix is +5.5 after it beat TNT in 2 straight games. With this uncertainty of mind, I think I will go with the total points, and since it's a do or die game for the TNT, they will put their defense here, hence it's gonna end up a low scoring game.

TNT won the game but it doesn't covered the handicap, lucky to those Phoenix fans who bet with this huge handicap. Most of the time being wise is better than to allow your emotion as a fan, it's all about money and you don't need to risk if you do see advantages from the bookmakers grab and enjoy.

Both series have their own do or die version, TNT and Bolts force this one up in both close matches. Time for the fans now to use their reserve funds to allocate with this semi final games. BGSM and TNT both shares the favorites but who knows if what adjustment both Bolts and Phoenix will do trying to win it over and reached the finals.

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Quote from: Vaculin on November 25, 2020, 01:02:48 AM

I'm surprised with the TNT vs Phoenix odds, Phoenix is currently at +5.5.. I don't like it, it looks like a trap and we might see some "luto" in this game.
TNT will win and we will see a game 5, what do you think?

I'm also surprise with the odds, who would thought that Phoenix is +5.5 after it beat TNT in 2 straight games. With this uncertainty of mind, I think I will go with the total points, and since it's a do or die game for the TNT, they will put their defense here, hence it's gonna end up a low scoring game.

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I'm surprised with the TNT vs Phoenix odds, Phoenix is currently at +5.5.. I don't like it, it looks like a trap and we might see some "luto" in this game.
TNT will win and we will see a game 5, what do you think?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 24, 2020, 04:37:04 PM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on November 24, 2020, 10:45:28 AM

Moving forward from the "LUTO", what are your thoughts for game four? Close out games can get tricky because no teams are ready to be eliminated yet. GSM is understandably the favorite but I'm not sure why Phoenix is coming off as an underdog. Are bookies thinking of Matthew Wright's ankle issue here? Regardless, I hope they don't collapse from the TNT pressure.

I'm also thinking about that, TNT being the favorite but then again as bettors we should exploit that as Phoenix have the momentum on game 4 (the way i see it). The three days rest have helped Matthew Wright with his injury and i think online bookies don't have researchers as they still put Phoenix the underdog Grin

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On a five game series, those who have a chance to close out will do their best because failure to do so will just putting their selves into a lot of pressure the next game because of momentum shift.

The odds usually don't change, TNT started as Favorites in the the series so they will remain the favorites in even game because they only lose to a close game against Phoenix, actually it's worth a shot, I think TNT would have a good start but Phoenix is the one who will be victorious in the end.

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Ginebra being an experienced team will do the job of sending the Bolts out of the bubble after game 4.

Possibly because on the two games they loss against Ginebra, they loss by a bad margin.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on November 24, 2020, 10:45:28 AM

Moving forward from the "LUTO", what are your thoughts for game four? Close out games can get tricky because no teams are ready to be eliminated yet. GSM is understandably the favorite but I'm not sure why Phoenix is coming off as an underdog. Are bookies thinking of Matthew Wright's ankle issue here? Regardless, I hope they don't collapse from the TNT pressure.

I'm also thinking about that, TNT being the favorite but then again as bettors we should exploit that as Phoenix have the momentum on game 4 (the way i see it). The three days rest have helped Matthew Wright with his injury and i think online bookies don't have researchers as they still put Phoenix the underdog Grin

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On a five game series, those who have a chance to close out will do their best because failure to do so will just putting their selves into a lot of pressure the next game because of momentum shift.

Ginebra being an experienced team will do the job of sending the Bolts out of the bubble after game 4.

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Moving forward from the "LUTO", what are your thoughts for game four? Close out games can get tricky because no teams are ready to be eliminated yet. GSM is understandably the favorite but I'm not sure why Phoenix is coming off as an underdog. Are bookies thinking of Matthew Wright's ankle issue here? Regardless, I hope they don't collapse from the TNT pressure.

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Lucky for those who shouted luto, no one was able to pinpoint the culprit so no penalty is given, but it should be a warning to the one who did that. I'm sure he is already laughing now as he escape on this one, whoever that person is in the Meralco squad.

'Luto' heckler escapes penalty as PBA admits no solid evidence

I like to guess, was it Maliksi because I remember.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 24, 2020, 03:16:16 AM

Anything can happened, Bolts still have the series it's just a win away from BGSM they can chase this win and have the do or die game
series. They can use that frustration to be their inspiration to win the game.

Bolts will have to win to force a game 5 but I don't like their chances here, PBA now is better with Ginebra is playing as they have a lot of fans, so maybe that's the reason why Hugnatan was frustrated and said "luto"... They say Ginebra is the best team in the PBA, so peopel would watch the PBA because of Ginebra and I can tell in the viewers they are getting during live betting.

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Quote from: Vaculin on November 23, 2020, 05:32:52 PM

Quote from: zhea on November 23, 2020, 04:44:19 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on November 23, 2020, 03:49:43 PM

Ginebra vs Meralco on Game 3, The Kings did a great job to control the game in the early quarter. Meralco on the other hand can't find a way how to respond to Ginebra's offensive boards. While they are trying to shorten the lead, Ginebra will eventually extend it.

That "LUTO", to whoever player from Meralco called it, is just a fine action. Try to review replays and we will not see any hard physical contact with those 2 consecutive calls and surprisingly another call was made. Maybe it happened several times already where players called out that towards to ref but we can't just hear it live because of live audience. Ginebra will take this series, no need for refs. Cheesy

That "luto" thing is just unfair to the Ginebra team because for me they played well in that game and no matter what the Meralco Bolts did, the Kings have an answer so I don't think that referee's call has something to do with that. Referre's are human too and they can make mistakes and this thing also happens in the NBA.

Even outside the PBA, you can still hear this kind of accusation, I think that's normal for players too to make this kind of stupid accusation maybe due to frustration but they should learn not to do it again because they are professionals, the good thing is, they are accusing the ref not the league itself.

Common reaction from those who are really eager to beat this team, in fairness to them as they really improved from this bubble we continue to see how they rotate the ball and how they really trying to find the right man to bring the bucket. Those allegations are not appropriate as fans witness how the game being played.

Anything can happened, Bolts still have the series it's just a win away from BGSM they can chase this win and have the do or die game
series. They can use that frustration to be their inspiration to win the game.

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Quote from: zhea on November 23, 2020, 04:44:19 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on November 23, 2020, 03:49:43 PM

Ginebra vs Meralco on Game 3, The Kings did a great job to control the game in the early quarter. Meralco on the other hand can't find a way how to respond to Ginebra's offensive boards. While they are trying to shorten the lead, Ginebra will eventually extend it.

That "LUTO", to whoever player from Meralco called it, is just a fine action. Try to review replays and we will not see any hard physical contact with those 2 consecutive calls and surprisingly another call was made. Maybe it happened several times already where players called out that towards to ref but we can't just hear it live because of live audience. Ginebra will take this series, no need for refs. Cheesy

That "luto" thing is just unfair to the Ginebra team because for me they played well in that game and no matter what the Meralco Bolts did, the Kings have an answer so I don't think that referee's call has something to do with that. Referre's are human too and they can make mistakes and this thing also happens in the NBA.

Even outside the PBA, you can still hear this kind of accusation, I think that's normal for players too to make this kind of stupid accusation maybe due to frustration but they should learn not to do it again because they are professionals, the good thing is, they are accusing the ref not the league itself.

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 23, 2020, 03:49:43 PM

Ginebra vs Meralco on Game 3, The Kings did a great job to control the game in the early quarter. Meralco on the other hand can't find a way how to respond to Ginebra's offensive boards. While they are trying to shorten the lead, Ginebra will eventually extend it.

That "LUTO", to whoever player from Meralco called it, is just a fine action. Try to review replays and we will not see any hard physical contact with those 2 consecutive calls and surprisingly another call was made. Maybe it happened several times already where players called out that towards to ref but we can't just hear it live because of live audience. Ginebra will take this series, no need for refs. Cheesy

That "luto" thing is just unfair to the Ginebra team because for me they played well in that game and no matter what the Meralco Bolts did, the Kings have an answer so I don't think that referee's call has something to do with that. Referre's are human too and they can make mistakes and this thing also happens in the NBA.

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 23, 2020, 03:49:43 PM

Ginebra vs Meralco on Game 3, The Kings did a great job to control the game in the early quarter. Meralco on the other hand can't find a way how to respond to Ginebra's offensive boards. While they are trying to shorten the lead, Ginebra will eventually extend it.

That "LUTO", to whoever player from Meralco called it, is just a fine action. Try to review replays and we will not see any hard physical contact with those 2 consecutive calls and surprisingly another call was made. Maybe it happened several times already where players called out that towards to ref but we can't just hear it live because of live audience. Ginebra will take this series, no need for refs. Cheesy

Skills and experienced wise, BGSM have a bigger advantages from this game. I hear you, there's no need for the ref to help them as they can win this one with clean and pure talents. Bolts do try to fight back but they are short since BGSM maintain the tempo, in every attempt
rallied from Bolts there's good answer from BGSM.

Game of coaches this coming game 4, BGSM can take it from here and have an extra rest if TNT will try to win their series against Phoenix.
Both semis are enticing as rivalries really fought well and both are not easily giving up..

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