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Quote from: Vaculin on December 04, 2020, 06:17:38 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 04, 2020, 05:54:06 AM

Wow, only 8 points scored by Barangay Ginebra in the second quarter, that's good defense by the KaTropa and they are now up by 10 points at halftime.

TNT 1.20 Ginebra 4.20

Who will take the bait? Grin

Putting some because Ginebra will come back, that's for sure.

Good luck, same here, I took the bet and I got 5.40.. win or loss, this is the game that we like to see, TNT will win, okay, there's still another game to bet but we could not let this pass because Ginebra has already proven themselves that they know how to come back from big deficit.

No luck this time mate, TNT is making sure no Ginebra comeback this time around. Pringle and Mariano has been shutdown in this game and the Katropas were dominating the rebound department which Ginebra dominated the last two games.

I've noticed that Ray Parks was in uniform but he did not suit up, why is that?

Anyhow, we now have a series and for us who are rooting for TNT, we still got the chance to win this one

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 04, 2020, 05:54:06 AM

Wow, only 8 points scored by Barangay Ginebra in the second quarter, that's good defense by the KaTropa and they are now up by 10 points at halftime.

TNT 1.20 Ginebra 4.20

Who will take the bait? Grin

Putting some because Ginebra will come back, that's for sure.

Good luck, same here, I took the bet and I got 5.40.. win or loss, this is the game that we like to see, TNT will win, okay, there's still another game to bet but we could not let this pass because Ginebra has already proven themselves that they know how to come back from big deficit.

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Wow, only 8 points scored by Barangay Ginebra in the second quarter, that's good defense by the KaTropa and they are now up by 10 points at halftime.

TNT 1.20 Ginebra 4.20

Who will take the bait? Grin

Putting some because Ginebra will come back, that's for sure.

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TNT again had a good lead, they now lead 10 points in the break.
Score is 44-34 in favor of the TNT, if they will still blow that lead, then I guess it's over even if it's still 3-0.

Still no Ray Parks so they really need to spread the ball well and help each other to win.

Thus far they are doing a great job for balance scoring.

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Quote from: Nellayar on December 03, 2020, 05:10:35 PM

However, they have lack in defensive players who can stop Japeth Aguilar inside the ring. Troy is also a good defensive player because of his wing span but he can't really dominate Japeth inside. Stanley Pringle is really unstoppable upon his drives, he can score whatever he wants because of his dribbling skills. No wonder, history repeat itself. GSM will win again the series.

What do you mean TNT is lacking defensive players?

In Game 2, BGSM's top players such as Thompson, Aguilar, and Tenorio only have 3, 6, and 5 points respectively even playing at 30+ minutes? And Pringle's 34 points was at 47% percentage (10/21 FG)?

There is no reason why TNT loses in Game 2. It was a close game and both teams showed their best.

It wasn't suppose to be a close game if TNT were able to keep their huge lead. Now, they have to win this game so they still have a chance in the series, it looks like this is a close game, TNT is currently on the lead by 4 points only, but it's too early.

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Quote from: Nellayar on December 03, 2020, 05:10:35 PM

However, they have lack in defensive players who can stop Japeth Aguilar inside the ring. Troy is also a good defensive player because of his wing span but he can't really dominate Japeth inside. Stanley Pringle is really unstoppable upon his drives, he can score whatever he wants because of his dribbling skills. No wonder, history repeat itself. GSM will win again the series.

What do you mean TNT is lacking defensive players?

In Game 2, BGSM's top players such as Thompson, Aguilar, and Tenorio only have 3, 6, and 5 points respectively even playing at 30+ minutes? And Pringle's 34 points was at 47% percentage (10/21 FG)?

There is no reason why TNT loses in Game 2. It was a close game and both teams showed their best.

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Quote from: Nellayar on December 03, 2020, 05:10:35 PM

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Quote from: TitanGEL on December 03, 2020, 07:01:55 AM

I think they need to focus more in their offense and there is possibility that they can control the whole game. If the TNT will not change their current playstyle in the next game, then for me Ginebra will win again and there is a high chance that they the TNT can be sweep.

They have no problem with their offense, a lot of guys could come out hot and deliver that for them, what they need to be honest is their defense. Look, in game 2, they were up like 15 points or more, but they allow Ginebra to come back, that's the big weakness they have, and actually it also happened against the Phoenix fuel masters, so there's really a problem with their defense.

TNT is not known to be a defensive team, if you will take a closer look at their opponent's output every game, the average point is close to 100. Only Roger Pogoy is known for it's defense but he could not do it alone, KaTropa need to have that blocker in the middle to somehow slow down Japeth Aguilar and Stanly Pringle's drive.

I tend to believe coaching is the problem of TNT and not it's players.

I agree with you. TNT katropa is being popular as an offensive team. They have power forwards such as Troy and guards who can score in a game. However, they have lack in defensive players who can stop Japeth Aguilar inside the ring. Troy is also a good defensive player because of his wing span but he can't really dominate Japeth inside. Stanley Pringle is really unstoppable upon his drives, he can score whatever he wants because of his dribbling skills. No wonder, history repeat itself. GSM will win again the series.

Actually they've done a great job on Japeth Aguilar in game 2, they limit Japeth to 6 points only but that was not effective since Ginebra still win and they forget to limit another big man which is Mariano and Pringle remains consistent. I wonder what their plans in game 3, they are no listed as favorites in bookies, currently at 1.71.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 01, 2020, 02:16:04 PM

what adjustment will TNT
brings coming this game 2, they need to keep close as BGSM will not lose every opportunities to win the title.

We don't know but I'm sure they are prepared for the match later. Have you guys placed your bets already? is this going to be the usual exchange of win and lose?
Game 1 win, game 2 lose and so on and so fort. What do you think?

Knowing PBA for sure exchanging of wins will be the result and I expect the game to reach at game 7 since it's a million peso business to them. Remember the bubble take long month to take place so provably they will take the chance to get more money from it.

But I'm placing my bets this time to Ginebra since their rooster is solid.

Congratulations to you. Ginebra just won 2 points in that match last Wednesday. The impression of making the series long is very common because that's what we've seen many times in the history of PBA. But we will see this time if Ginebra is going to sweep it.
Game 3 later and we'll see if TNT will win this time or it's going to be 3-0 for the Gin Kings. That would make it boring if it's going to be a sweep and straight win.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 03, 2020, 03:55:08 PM

Quote from: Finestream on December 03, 2020, 07:39:22 AM

Quote from: TitanGEL on December 03, 2020, 07:01:55 AM

I think they need to focus more in their offense and there is possibility that they can control the whole game. If the TNT will not change their current playstyle in the next game, then for me Ginebra will win again and there is a high chance that they the TNT can be sweep.

They have no problem with their offense, a lot of guys could come out hot and deliver that for them, what they need to be honest is their defense. Look, in game 2, they were up like 15 points or more, but they allow Ginebra to come back, that's the big weakness they have, and actually it also happened against the Phoenix fuel masters, so there's really a problem with their defense.

TNT is not known to be a defensive team, if you will take a closer look at their opponent's output every game, the average point is close to 100. Only Roger Pogoy is known for it's defense but he could not do it alone, KaTropa need to have that blocker in the middle to somehow slow down Japeth Aguilar and Stanly Pringle's drive.

I tend to believe coaching is the problem of TNT and not it's players.

I agree with you. TNT katropa is being popular as an offensive team. They have power forwards such as Troy and guards who can score in a game. However, they have lack in defensive players who can stop Japeth Aguilar inside the ring. Troy is also a good defensive player because of his wing span but he can't really dominate Japeth inside. Stanley Pringle is really unstoppable upon his drives, he can score whatever he wants because of his dribbling skills. No wonder, history repeat itself. GSM will win again the series.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 03, 2020, 07:39:22 AM

Quote from: TitanGEL on December 03, 2020, 07:01:55 AM

I think they need to focus more in their offense and there is possibility that they can control the whole game. If the TNT will not change their current playstyle in the next game, then for me Ginebra will win again and there is a high chance that they the TNT can be sweep.

They have no problem with their offense, a lot of guys could come out hot and deliver that for them, what they need to be honest is their defense. Look, in game 2, they were up like 15 points or more, but they allow Ginebra to come back, that's the big weakness they have, and actually it also happened against the Phoenix fuel masters, so there's really a problem with their defense.

TNT is not known to be a defensive team, if you will take a closer look at their opponent's output every game, the average point is close to 100. Only Roger Pogoy is known for it's defense but he could not do it alone, KaTropa need to have that blocker in the middle to somehow slow down Japeth Aguilar and Stanly Pringle's drive.

I tend to believe coaching is the problem of TNT and not it's players.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 03, 2020, 07:39:22 AM

Quote from: TitanGEL on December 03, 2020, 07:01:55 AM

I think they need to focus more in their offense and there is possibility that they can control the whole game. If the TNT will not change their current playstyle in the next game, then for me Ginebra will win again and there is a high chance that they the TNT can be sweep.

They have no problem with their offense, a lot of guys could come out hot and deliver that for them, what they need to be honest is their defense. Look, in game 2, they were up like 15 points or more, but they allow Ginebra to come back, that's the big weakness they have, and actually it also happened against the Phoenix fuel masters, so there's really a problem with their defense.

Yes! TNT needs to be more aggressive not only with offense but more on their defense, they need to put more pressure to Ginebra. We've seen how Ginebra sharing the ball they are good in rotating and not stopping to keep moving, TNT needs to break it out and not to allow open man to make an easy shot.

It's more on players aggressiveness, The core needs to start early and keep the heat up the last second. Castro, Pogoy , Rosario, Parks and Erram, this coming game 3 they need to collaborate, very crucial game from this series as Ginebra can sweep them up if they failed to win this game 3.

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Quote from: TitanGEL on December 03, 2020, 07:01:55 AM

I think they need to focus more in their offense and there is possibility that they can control the whole game. If the TNT will not change their current playstyle in the next game, then for me Ginebra will win again and there is a high chance that they the TNT can be sweep.

They have no problem with their offense, a lot of guys could come out hot and deliver that for them, what they need to be honest is their defense. Look, in game 2, they were up like 15 points or more, but they allow Ginebra to come back, that's the big weakness they have, and actually it also happened against the Phoenix fuel masters, so there's really a problem with their defense.

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 02, 2020, 06:21:13 AM

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Is it confirm that Rey Parks will not play?

If he will play or not, still a risk to bet for TNT Moneyline (but I see TNT can still handle the BGSM even without Parks).

A calf strain injury needs at least 3 days rest or the longer much better. I believed TNT will rest him to fully prepared for Game 3 instead.

But for TNT fans, should be no such thing as Parks won't play and will just place their bets.

Parks injury won't change Ginebra preparation for Game 2, says Cone

They are still gonna play hard knowing Ginebra. No Park maybe in this game as the odds is slowly sliding in favor of the Ginebra, but there's a little movement only so I think TNT still has a good chance here despite park not playing.

As a fan, we just speculate, watch and enjoy the game, and you know I hope for Ginebra to win, and I'm a bit bias.

Confirmed, Ray Park did not play but TNT is on the lead right now, they had a very comfortable lead at 12 points, I think you guys are correct that Pogoy will get more touches of the ball and he is really playing well.

It is a best of 7 series and having a 2-0 standing does not give you any guarantee that you will become the champion but it is true that the probability of winning of the Ginebra is now higher because of their current standing and of course they already build a momentum. TNT is good but they lack of strength and power, I think they need to focus more in their offense and there is possibility that they can control the whole game. If the TNT will not change their current playstyle in the next game, then for me Ginebra will win again and there is a high chance that they the TNT can be sweep.

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 02, 2020, 06:34:05 PM

Quote from: Finestream on December 02, 2020, 05:17:50 PM

it's 84% chance that a team with 2-0 would win the Finals.

It that case Ginebra will likely win the series, but anyway the chance is still goo, once TNT win game 3, the complexion of the series will change. Personally I believe Ginebra is the better team here but I don't believe too that TNT will be sweep, therefore I think guess I'm putting my money on TNT in game 3.

Good luck, its look like a rig game for you, hehe.
I still read a lot of comments about Luto, when a fan is in the losing them, they usually say luto, they could be right but there's no proof.
In game 2, there was really no questionable call for me, I just like the comeback effort, TNT does not have that at the moment, sorry to say though I bet on them.

Quote from: Vaculin on December 02, 2020, 06:34:05 PM

Doing it on 1st half and 2nd half. Trying to play the greedy game here, I'll bet on TNT first half, if loss, I'll go for a double or maybe not because the odds will be like 2.50 or more for TNT if they lose in the first half.

Maybe I would just follow as this is my last chance to at least recover my possible loss in the series. Grin

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Quote from: Finestream on December 02, 2020, 05:17:50 PM

it's 84% chance that a team with 2-0 would win the Finals.

It that case Ginebra will likely win the series, but anyway the chance is still goo, once TNT win game 3, the complexion of the series will change. Personally I believe Ginebra is the better team here but I don't believe too that TNT will be sweep, therefore I think guess I'm putting my money on TNT in game 3.

Doing it on 1st half and 2nd half. Trying to play the greedy game here, I'll bet on TNT first half, if loss, I'll go for a double or maybe not because the odds will be like 2.50 or more for TNT if they lose in the first half.

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 02, 2020, 07:32:16 AM

Congrats Ginebra, series is now 2-0 in favor of the Gin kings.

I like the game tonight, Ginebra were down but they came back and win, luckily I got some live bet that hit.

This one with good odds.

Congrats on your win mate, you played it smart today.

I think i'm gonna prepare my BTC here as i'm going to lose my bet lol, but i don't think it's a sweep. I think the Katropa will win one game at least and if they need Parks to do it then fine with me hehehe. Jayson Castro does not have that speed anymore and he might be traded next year.

Not yet mate, there's still more games to come, though Ginebra already have taken the lead in the series but I can't be confident because this is TNT, they also have the talent, Ginebra are just lucky to come back and win. According to the one who interviewed the best player, it's 84% chance that a team with 2-0 would win the Finals.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on December 02, 2020, 07:45:19 AM

Nice try Enciso, nice try Grin

. Congrats once again to GSM. They really got the never say die attitude. I thought it was already an admissible match on the side of Kabaranggay but they still able to bounce back and win. If you may noticed, the history repeats itself. Thompson made the outstanding 3 point shot (this time, on the other corner) and Castro missed their crucial shot lol.

But in all fairness, TNT really did a great job. It just so happened that GSM was full of luck tonight. They should keep Parks resting if they want greater chances of winning jk.

After that early 3rd quarter led I was thinking that TNT already have this game, but again that never say die attitude of BGSM bring them back and win this game, Ginebra move the ball trusting each other is the big key to snatch the win from TNT. It's really unpredictable who's going to fire for them.

Those 3's from Chan and Dillinger and fishing hook from Mariano, small contributions but gives a big impact to this team. They are well-developed as a team inside this bubble.

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 02, 2020, 07:32:16 AM

Congrats Ginebra, series is now 2-0 in favor of the Gin kings.

I like the game tonight, Ginebra were down but they came back and win, luckily I got some live bet that hit.

This one with good odds.

Congrats on your win mate, you played it smart today.

I think i'm gonna prepare my BTC here as i'm going to lose my bet lol, but i don't think it's a sweep. I think the Katropa will win one game at least and if they need Parks to do it then fine with me hehehe. Jayson Castro does not have that speed anymore and he might be traded next year.

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Nice try Enciso, nice try Grin

. Congrats once again to GSM. They really got the never say die attitude. I thought it was already an admissible match on the side of Kabaranggay but they still able to bounce back and win. If you may noticed, the history repeats itself. Thompson made the outstanding 3 point shot (this time, on the other corner) and Castro missed their crucial shot lol.

But in all fairness, TNT really did a great job. It just so happened that GSM was full of luck tonight. They should keep Parks resting if they want greater chances of winning jk.

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Winding down.

Congrats Ginebra, series is now 2-0 in favor of the Gin kings.

I like the game tonight, Ginebra were down but they came back and win, luckily I got some live bet that hit.

This one with good odds.

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