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Quote from: Fredomago on September 11, 2020, 09:32:38 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on September 11, 2020, 08:50:41 AM

That must be the reason, he broke the protocol so the team decided to fire him, and they tank when Abueva got suspended.

Anyway, time for the interim coach to do the job, I guess coach Topex Robinson has already a lot of coaching experience in the PBA though he has not become a head coach yet, so good luck for him and I hope that hussle play of the Phoenix team will remain, they are known for their good defense.

New coach in abueva's comeback, that would be a great news.

You are right Coach Topex is in this field for such a longtime, but with the head coach it will be his break now.

The timing for Abueva's comeback would be very interesting knowing that both alumni's are product of San Sebastian 'Baste"
maybe the blends will work now that Robinson already the head coach.

Phoenix had success also with Alas but when Abueva was out, that's where the nightmare started. Well, the team are always working for the best interest of the team and their aim is to win, Alas is just unfortunate not able to finish his 3 years contact with the Phoenix, but it's still all good for the team.

Abueva coming back is the bigger news here.

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Quote from: Vaculin on September 11, 2020, 08:50:41 AM

That must be the reason, he broke the protocol so the team decided to fire him, and they tank when Abueva got suspended.

Anyway, time for the interim coach to do the job, I guess coach Topex Robinson has already a lot of coaching experience in the PBA though he has not become a head coach yet, so good luck for him and I hope that hussle play of the Phoenix team will remain, they are known for their good defense.

New coach in abueva's comeback, that would be a great news.

You are right Coach Topex is in this field for such a longtime, but with the head coach it will be his break now.

The timing for Abueva's comeback would be very interesting knowing that both alumni's are product of San Sebastian 'Baste"
maybe the blends will work now that Robinson already the head coach.

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Winding down.

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Quote from: erikoy on September 10, 2020, 09:13:35 AM

So the update now with PBA is that players already in a bubble creating space for them keeping away from these virus. I actually think that players are not high risk to this virus because they are athletic.~snip~

I had to cut your comment and let's discuss your opinion.

Check the list of NBA players who got infected with covid-19 here (https://www.slamonline.com/nba/nba-coronavirus-covid-list/), and now tell me that are not in high risk of getting infected as they are athletic. They might not feel the complication because of their healthy body but just look at the other risk, they might be able to carry the virus and live normally but what about the people around them?

The high risk is they can also infect people.

That's right, anyone who has the virus has the risk of getting his health destroyed or destroy the people he can infect with the virus.

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Breaking news for Phoenix.

Phoenix fires Louie Alas, appoints Topex Robinson interim coach

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PHOENIX Super LPG fired Louie Alas as head coach of its team in the PBA, appointing Topex Robinson to take over in an interim capacity.

The Fuel Masters made the stunning announcement on its social media accounts on Friday, just days after suspending Alas for 15 days for breaking health protocols in the team's return to practice amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Good luck to this team, hopefully the decision would result to an improvement of the team.

That must be the reason, he broke the protocol so the team decided to fire him, and they tank when Abueva got suspended.

Anyway, time for the interim coach to do the job, I guess coach Topex Robinson has already a lot of coaching experience in the PBA though he has not become a head coach yet, so good luck for him and I hope that hussle play of the Phoenix team will remain, they are known for their good defense.

New coach in abueva's comeback, that would be a great news.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 10, 2020, 05:05:05 PM

Quote from: erikoy on September 10, 2020, 09:13:35 AM

So the update now with PBA is that players already in a bubble creating space for them keeping away from these virus. I actually think that players are not high risk to this virus because they are athletic.~snip~

I had to cut your comment and let's discuss your opinion.

Check the list of NBA players who got infected with covid-19 here (https://www.slamonline.com/nba/nba-coronavirus-covid-list/), and now tell me that are not in high risk of getting infected as they are athletic. They might not feel the complication because of their healthy body but just look at the other risk, they might be able to carry the virus and live normally but what about the people around them?

The high risk is they can also infect people.

That's right, anyone who has the virus has the risk of getting his health destroyed or destroy the people he can infect with the virus.

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Breaking news for Phoenix.

Phoenix fires Louie Alas, appoints Topex Robinson interim coach

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PHOENIX Super LPG fired Louie Alas as head coach of its team in the PBA, appointing Topex Robinson to take over in an interim capacity.

The Fuel Masters made the stunning announcement on its social media accounts on Friday, just days after suspending Alas for 15 days for breaking health protocols in the team's return to practice amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Good luck to this team, hopefully the decision would result to an improvement of the team.

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Quote from: erikoy on September 10, 2020, 09:13:35 AM

So the update now with PBA is that players already in a bubble creating space for them keeping away from these virus. I actually think that players are not high risk to this virus because they are athletic.~snip~

I had to cut your comment and let's discuss your opinion.

Check the list of NBA players who got infected with covid-19 here (https://www.slamonline.com/nba/nba-coronavirus-covid-list/), and now tell me that are not in high risk of getting infected as they are athletic. They might not feel the complication because of their healthy body but just look at the other risk, they might be able to carry the virus and live normally but what about the people around them?

The high risk is they can also infect people.

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So the update now with PBA is that players already in a bubble creating space for them keeping away from these virus. I actually think that players are not high risk to this virus because they are athletic. But after I had know that one of the athletic I had known had died because of the virus that complicate his present condition. Usually, an atheletic has different ECG result because the heart itself had been evolvinfg due to rigid physical activities. He has different rythm to which most likely athletic has and that when virus transmitted to him it went directly complicated through his heart lead to cardiac arrest. However, this is still an assumption with the story of people close to him. In regard, these players should be always careful not getting the virus.

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We can have a good competition in the MVP if Fajardo will retire, as long as he is in the league, he will dominate the individual award and SMB will dominate the team award, that's the reality. With what Fajardo said, I hope these player will be inspired, being praised by "THE KRAKEN" should give them some kind of happiness inside.

CJ vs Newsome, well, interesting match up for MVP award but I'll go with CJ here, very clutch guy.

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CJ Perez might get an MVP award in the future if he won't transfer teams. As we know, he is the main scorer on his team so chances of getting good stats are possible to compare if he will be traded to another team with another superstar.

He just needs to stay healthy and fit as much as possible. He is just starting and lots of room for improvement.

If things go right, he will be one of the future faces in the league. About who's going first to become MVP between him and Newsome, I think that shouldn't be a question.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on September 09, 2020, 07:02:50 AM

Performance wise, Perez is better than Newsome.

For now, I will disagree with this.

Newsome has a supporting role in teammates. No need to carry the team by himself so performance and stats-wise, Perez might be ahead. Newsome is also an experienced player that plays under pressure several times.

Too early to say but maybe in the future, CJ will have the upper hand.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on September 09, 2020, 07:02:50 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on September 09, 2020, 04:52:47 AM

So what do you think, who will get an MVP award first, is it CJ Perez or Chris Newsome?

Both of them are Captains in their respective teams.
Newsome is playing for a long time already while Perez played just one year in the PBA.
Performance wise, Perez is better than Newsome.

I think in the long run, Perez will get an MVP award first on this comparison. He is a good leader and a good scorer. The future of Perez in PBA will be bright for sure.
Now if I will compare the 5 of them (Standhardinger, Perez, Aguilar, Castro and Newsome) and pick one, I will go for Standhardinger for this one. We saw already what CStand can bring when he was traded to the NorthPort. He played great consistently and defeated the top 1 seed on one conference.

I could not agree with you more lol. Without Fajardo this season, i have Cstand to become the MVP on this shortened season. This guy is unstoppable and can score at will now that he is with NorthPort. CJ Perez is one of the new kid that has potential to be MVP, all he just need to do is avoid being injured and be humble. He is fearless as what we saw on the FIBA championship against Serbia. Slashing against the giants in the middle Grin

, he must be careful with that one as this might be the cause of his injuries in the future.

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Quote from: Vaculin on September 09, 2020, 04:52:47 AM

So what do you think, who will get an MVP award first, is it CJ Perez or Chris Newsome?

Both of them are Captains in their respective teams.
Newsome is playing for a long time already while Perez played just one year in the PBA.
Performance wise, Perez is better than Newsome.

I think in the long run, Perez will get an MVP award first on this comparison. He is a good leader and a good scorer. The future of Perez in PBA will be bright for sure.
Now if I will compare the 5 of them (Standhardinger, Perez, Aguilar, Castro and Newsome) and pick one, I will go for Standhardinger for this one. We saw already what CStand can bring when he was traded to the NorthPort. He played great consistently and defeated the top 1 seed on one conference.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 09, 2020, 05:19:28 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on September 09, 2020, 04:52:47 AM

So what do you think, who will get an MVP award first, is it CJ Perez or Chris Newsome?

I think it will be CJ Perez as he is a very consistent leader of the team, he has the advantage as he is playing in a bad team, so he will enjoy the stats as he will be the main man for every game, unlike the Meralco which has a lot of role player who could contribute in the game to win.

CJ player and Bollick had a good rokie year in the PBA, I don't know about the journey of Chris Newsome in his rookie year.

They are both good but CJ is just quite a good ball handler and a shooter compared to Newsome and a good teammate as well, that's my personal observation and maybe some would not agree with me here. However, opinion coming from the best player in the PBA for consecutive season, it's full of truthfulness so I would give the guys mentioned a chance, let's see if they can win an MVP award.

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Quote from: Vaculin on September 09, 2020, 04:52:47 AM

So what do you think, who will get an MVP award first, is it CJ Perez or Chris Newsome?

I think it will be CJ Perez as he is a very consistent leader of the team, he has the advantage as he is playing in a bad team, so he will enjoy the stats as he will be the main man for every game, unlike the Meralco which has a lot of role player who could contribute in the game to win.

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What do you think about JMF's opinion.

Five stars who Fajardo thinks can win MVP. One might surprise you

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In a recent guesting on 2OT with Carlo Pamintuan and Magoo Marjon, Fajardo rattled off Christian Standhardinger, Jayson Castro, Japeth Aguilar, Chris Newsome, and CJ Perez as the ones who have a shot at claiming the top individual award.

He is talking about the best players in the PBA right now, for me, I have no doubt with C Stand, Castro and Aguilar, but the young ones, I think it will take time. So what do you think, who will get an MVP award first, is it CJ Perez or Chris Newsome?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 07, 2020, 06:13:19 AM

After Ranidel De Ocampo, another Katropa have announced his retirement from the PBA. Kelly "Machine Gun" Williams have posted in his social media account that he will be retiring after a fruitful 14 seasons in the PBA. Kelly could have achieve more in his PBA career if he don't have that rare blood disease that sidelined him this late in his career.

To Kelly Williams, thanks for showcasing your skills in the PBA and entertaining this country who regarded basketball as a religion

. Wishing you good health in your retirement.

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1869445/Cebu/Sports/Cebuano-forward-Kelly-Williams-announces-retirement

We will certainly missed this guy, but honestly, I don't know about the diseased, so thanks for sharing though. With his retirement, this should open up an opportunity for new players to joined the team, but anyway, I hope we can also see him around, either as announcer or a coach.

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After Ranidel De Ocampo, another Katropa have announced his retirement from the PBA. Kelly "Machine Gun" Williams have posted in his social media account that he will be retiring after a fruitful 14 seasons in the PBA. Kelly could have achieve more in his PBA career if he don't have that rare blood disease that sidelined him this late in his career.

To Kelly Williams, thanks for showcasing your skills in the PBA and entertaining this country who regarded basketball as a religion

. Wishing you good health in your retirement.

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1869445/Cebu/Sports/Cebuano-forward-Kelly-Williams-announces-retirement

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Quote from: mirakal on September 06, 2020, 07:01:02 AM

This will not happen because the PBA is very strict in implementing its rules, and this is for the safety of all the people in the bubble, they can't afford that one will be infected and will infect everyone inside the bubble, there's should be a bigger sanction if one will violate, probably bigger than the NBA has.

A violation has a chance to happen even how strict PBA is. Remember when Japeth Aguilar got sanctioned during the pandemic because he got involved in a scrimmage. Another one, BlackWater held a practice even without the PBA's approval. There are lots of hard-headed in the league that feel special because they think they can get away with "palakasan" between teams and PBA.

I agree a big sanction should be implemented, a big fine plus suspension without pay. Actually, no need for strict rules as players should already know the supposed difference between right and wrongdoings inside the bubble.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 06, 2020, 07:01:02 AM

Quote from: GDragon on September 06, 2020, 06:41:22 AM

I just hope no "palakasan" will happen during their stay in a certain hotel. For sure some players would want to go out to meet somebody or anything, emergencies are a reason to go out too and meet somebody. So they have to create specific rules.

This will not happen because the PBA is very strict in implementing its rules, and this is for the safety of all the people in the bubble, they can't afford that one will be infected and will infect everyone inside the bubble, there's should be a bigger sanction if one will violate, probably bigger than the NBA has.

Imagine the cost they will lose if one are tested positive and they have already started the season, I think they can't afford to see that, so yes, they will do everything to make the tournament safe for everyone and to protect their investment.

They have already given an estimated resumption date, and that is next month, so hopefully everything will work according to schedule.

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Quote from: GDragon on September 06, 2020, 06:41:22 AM

I just hope no "palakasan" will happen during their stay in a certain hotel. For sure some players would want to go out to meet somebody or anything, emergencies are a reason to go out too and meet somebody. So they have to create specific rules.

This will not happen because the PBA is very strict in implementing its rules, and this is for the safety of all the people in the bubble, they can't afford that one will be infected and will infect everyone inside the bubble, there's should be a bigger sanction if one will violate, probably bigger than the NBA has.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 03, 2020, 04:46:53 PM

What's your opinion on Guiao's suggestion that the Bubble will be best held in Metro Manila?

Metro Manila most ideal venue for PBA bubble. He explains

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NLEX coach Yeng Guiao still considers Metro Manila as the ideal place to hold a PBA bubble once the pro league finally resumes its season.

Not only is a Metro Manila bubble going to be logistically viable and less costly, it will also allow teams to practice in their own training facilities, which Guiao thought would be one of the major issues should the league holds its games outside the Big City.

The champion coach sees good, old Smart Araneta Colisuem as the most suitable venue to hold the bubble.

“To me, that’s the most practical and most cost efficient,” Guiao shared to SPIN.ph . “It will be cheaper than going out of town.”

NCR, however, still has the highest number of COVID-19 cases in the country.

Lots of suggestion are coming, we are getting close to reality of resumption, just believe.

Read the article and actually it is really a good suggestion, I'm really not into the continuation of the game cause I can't think of a place here where they can put all the players throughout the season without going out, like the orlando bubble of the NBA. So Coach Yeng mentions of staying in a hotel all throughout, and hotel-practice-hotel-practice, and I think it is the only way to have games, it can be possible even though we don't have a bubble. As long as all the staff and players are REALLY not going out, cause its for their own safety too. They shouldn't meet anybody who are not in the bubble, cause it will create problems to their safety plan.

I just hope no "palakasan" will happen during their stay in a certain hotel. For sure some players would want to go out to meet somebody or anything, emergencies are a reason to go out too and meet somebody. So they have to create specific rules.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 05, 2020, 02:30:34 AM

If they need not to force things up, if they will copy the concept of NBA bubble.

There are no crowd that will be allowed aside from the people inside each franchise managements. PBA needs to be more strict
as the country is not yet safe from covid and the ranging numbers of affected people are continuously growing.

The concept of the PBA bubble is starting to take shape now and the good news is the have the date on when to tentatively start the resumption of the games.

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If plans don’t miscarry, the PBA will restart its suspended 45th season on Oct. 9 and end hostilities by Dec. 10 or 15 with a possible schedule of four or five game days a week featuring tripleheaders under strict health/safety conditions as prescribed by the IATF.

Looks like that it will be a crowdless games as the IATF is very strict with the implementation of the safety protocol.

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Marcial said the board will evaluate various options to restart the season in the coming meeting. It could be a race to finish the season at least a week before Christmas. The options include a combination of tripleheaders and doubleheaders, games to be held four or five days a week and setting up bubble-like camps for the teams. Since the PBA disclosed that it is considering to create “bubble” camps like the NBA, at least 13 hotels have reached out to offer hosting services. Some hotels even suggested to transform their ballrooms into practice facilities and one provincial resort offered to build a tent for the games with the goal of promoting the season as a boost for tourism.

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