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legendary
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July 17, 2020, 07:54:22 AM
Selling the team around Php150 million is unbelievable. Do someone in his right mind will buy this team at this much with it's current status?
What's happening right now is just for the short term and buying a franchise in PBA will be a long term.
Right now, many businessman are calling him to buy his franchise already. They don't care what is happening right now because businessmen always foresee the long term benefits of their decisions. I think that amount is fair already. Lets just wait for whoever will get the franchise.

It won't be long for that to settled, knowing that there are businessman who also wanted to join this league. 150M is not that huge to those billionaires if they see good value of money for long term advertisement, and for sure there are many privilege aside from getting your business a free media advertisements.

Let's wait for further development if this blackwater really serious in selling their franchise and who will be the bidders that will take place in case the process has been made.
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July 17, 2020, 04:27:29 AM
Selling the team around Php150 million is unbelievable. Do someone in his right mind will buy this team at this much with it's current status?
What's happening right now is just for the short term and buying a franchise in PBA will be a long term.
Right now, many businessman are calling him to buy his franchise already. They don't care what is happening right now because businessmen always foresee the long term benefits of their decisions. I think that amount is fair already. Lets just wait for whoever will get the franchise.

I guess that's fair, NBA team market valued is worth $1.9 billion, and the team Knicks is valued at $4 Billion per this report.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2019/02/06/nba-team-values-2019-knicks-on-top-at-4-billion/#6b377e6ae667

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The average NBA team is worth $1.9 billion, up 13% over last year and three times the level of five years ago.

not sure if we can use this figure to estimate the market value of the PBA, maybe the insiders know but I can't read it in public articles.
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July 16, 2020, 07:39:15 PM
Selling the team around Php150 million is unbelievable. Do someone in his right mind will buy this team at this much with it's current status?
What's happening right now is just for the short term and buying a franchise in PBA will be a long term.
Right now, many businessman are calling him to buy his franchise already. They don't care what is happening right now because businessmen always foresee the long term benefits of their decisions. I think that amount is fair already. Lets just wait for whoever will get the franchise.
legendary
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July 16, 2020, 06:07:15 PM
Thanks for the opinion anyway, that helps, I realized manny has MPBL so he would not venture with the PBA as it could be a conflict of interest.

That's the right definition on why Manny will not buy a team in the PBA, MPBL is his own league, they are a competitor of the PBA I guess, and that league is really getting more popular, it just stop just like the PBA due to the pandemic.

Selling the team around Php150 million is unbelievable. Do someone in his right mind will buy this team at this much with it's current status?

I was thinking the price is just fair, lol... I have no idea on the average market value for a PBA team, including the SMB teams.
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July 16, 2020, 05:54:40 PM

I guess a lot of business minded people will be interested with that.

Lots of team will likely to occupied and buy this franchise in case the owner is really serious to sell it out, I
remember Chocks to go owner wanted to join the PBA but haven't got the
franchise availability.
Hopefully as there's no reason the owner would still grow the team if he just like to sell it, and hopefully that statement would not affect its players and staff working for the team.


I think Manny can acquire the team if he likes, was Manny still the owner of the KIA team in the PBA which is  currently the colombyian DYIP?
Anyone know about this team? they always change but the last time I saw Manny was when he is with the KIA.

Not sure but if my memory recalls me way back, it's Mr. Jose Alvarez who own this franchise, but for sure Manny had the influenced
from this team, but after MPBL he haven't seen from the league anymore. If

Thanks for the opinion anyway, that helps, I realized manny has MPBL so he would not venture with the PBA as it could be a conflict of interest.
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July 16, 2020, 05:06:34 PM
Selling of a team is not new in the PBA, it even happened in the NBA, so let's see who would be interested to by the team, maybe the team would improve under the new owner. I guess the owner was offended and at the same time maybe he is not happy with the team anymore as they have been tanking for many years already, so this timing just happen and I wish there would really interest the team and put their passion to improve Blackwater Elite.

I think now that this is an issue of ego. This is some sort of a counter attack to what sanction PBA might to the team for violating the protocol. The owner issued a statement saying he was bullied but with his actions, i think he is the bully.

I think @goinmerry is right, this team owner of Blackwater is arrogant. Selling the team around Php150 million is unbelievable. Do someone in his right mind will buy this team at this much with it's current status?

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July 16, 2020, 04:30:30 PM
Blackwater is leaving the PBA. This might have something to do with Blackwater's alleged violation of quarantine protocols where the team return to practice prematurely.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/blackwater-selling-its-pba-franchise-for-p150-million-a793-20200715?ref=home_featured_2

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I'm open to entertain interested parties as it's hard for me to continue supporting the PBA when my heart is no longer there.

Is the owner of the team serious?

I have read first in the social media news feeds that Blackwater Elite violated the PBA protocol to return practice even IATF already gave a go signal to some sports leagues that they can resume the practice. PBA has its own protocol before resuming the practice which is good. Allowing the practice should be on July 22 which is just few days to go. What the heck this team is thinking?

And now their team owner thinks he was offended because of the penalty so now he is now making sounds that he is offering the team on the sale.

I think this is more personal than financial issues. The league will truly hurt if the franchise will exit but PBA doesn't need this arrogant team owner to be part of the league. Let's wait for the progress of the story.

Selling of a team is not new in the PBA, it even happened in the NBA, so let's see who would be interested to by the team, maybe the team would improve under the new owner. I guess the owner was offended and at the same time maybe he is not happy with the team anymore as they have been tanking for many years already, so this timing just happen and I wish there would really interest the team and put their passion to improve Blackwater Elite.
legendary
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July 16, 2020, 02:47:59 PM
Blackwater is leaving the PBA. This might have something to do with Blackwater's alleged violation of quarantine protocols where the team return to practice prematurely.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/blackwater-selling-its-pba-franchise-for-p150-million-a793-20200715?ref=home_featured_2

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I'm open to entertain interested parties as it's hard for me to continue supporting the PBA when my heart is no longer there.

Is the owner of the team serious?

I have read first in the social media news feeds that Blackwater Elite violated the PBA protocol to return practice even IATF already gave a go signal to some sports leagues that they can resume the practice. PBA has its own protocol before resuming the practice which is good. Allowing the practice should be on July 22 which is just few days to go. What the heck this team is thinking?

And now their team owner thinks he was offended because of the penalty so now he is now making sounds that he is offering the team on the sale.

I think this is more personal than financial issues. The league will truly hurt if the franchise will exit but PBA doesn't need this arrogant team owner to be part of the league. Let's wait for the progress of the story.
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July 16, 2020, 10:36:39 AM

I guess a lot of business minded people will be interested with that.

Lots of team will likely to occupied and buy this franchise in case the owner is really serious to sell it out, I
remember Chocks to go owner wanted to join the PBA but haven't got the
franchise availability.

I think Manny can acquire the team if he likes, was Manny still the owner of the KIA team in the PBA which is  currently the colombyian DYIP?
Anyone know about this team? they always change but the last time I saw Manny was when he is with the KIA.

Not sure but if my memory recalls me way back, it's Mr. Jose Alvarez who own this franchise, but for sure Manny had the influenced
from this team, but after MPBL he haven't seen from the league anymore. If
hero member
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July 16, 2020, 05:44:46 AM
Blackwater is leaving the PBA. This might have something to do with Blackwater's alleged violation of quarantine protocols where the team return to practice prematurely.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/blackwater-selling-its-pba-franchise-for-p150-million-a793-20200715?ref=home_featured_2

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I'm open to entertain interested parties as it's hard for me to continue supporting the PBA when my heart is no longer there.

Is the owner of the team serious?

I guess a lot of business minded people will be interested with that.
I think Manny can acquire the team if he likes, was Manny still the owner of the KIA team in the PBA which is  currently the colombyian DYIP?
Anyone know about this team? they always change but the last time I saw Manny was when he is with the KIA.
legendary
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July 16, 2020, 05:16:40 AM
Blackwater is leaving the PBA. This might have something to do with Blackwater's alleged violation of quarantine protocols where the team return to practice prematurely.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/blackwater-selling-its-pba-franchise-for-p150-million-a793-20200715?ref=home_featured_2

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I'm open to entertain interested parties as it's hard for me to continue supporting the PBA when my heart is no longer there.

Is the owner of the team serious?
I've watched a video just hours ago and it also came from a reputable site (spin.ph) so this is true.

In the video I watched, the owner said that he isn't passionate with basketball anymore and if they will just be penalized with what they've done it would be better if they will just sell the franchise to other teams or companies. He will just focus on Boxing he said.
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July 16, 2020, 01:36:36 AM
Blackwater is leaving the PBA. This might have something to do with Blackwater's alleged violation of quarantine protocols where the team return to practice prematurely.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/blackwater-selling-its-pba-franchise-for-p150-million-a793-20200715?ref=home_featured_2

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I'm open to entertain interested parties as it's hard for me to continue supporting the PBA when my heart is no longer there.

Is the owner of the team serious?

It's just a knee-jerk reaction to the PBA's reprimand. They clearly violated the protocol set by IATF.
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July 16, 2020, 01:24:15 AM
Blackwater is leaving the PBA. This might have something to do with Blackwater's alleged violation of quarantine protocols where the team return to practice prematurely.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/blackwater-selling-its-pba-franchise-for-p150-million-a793-20200715?ref=home_featured_2

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I'm open to entertain interested parties as it's hard for me to continue supporting the PBA when my heart is no longer there.

Is the owner of the team serious?
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July 15, 2020, 06:41:11 PM
Good news not only for the Phoenix Squad but to the entire PBA league as fans are already missing Abueva, though he have that attitude
issues but the way he played and how athletic he is when inside the court, hopefully he will be seen
this All Filipino cup, he can adds up spice that will encourage the team to compete more aggressively.

Hopefully he truly learned his lesson which I think he realized it now.

Being a superstar is totally useless if a player behave unprofessionally.

Now that Abueva knows the struggle I'm expecting a new Abueva once he comes back. The penalty imposed to him is already enough. He should be allowed to come back now to add more competition in the PBA once the league come back.

It looks like he really has a mental problem as the last step was the series of psychological tests, lol.. probably check on him if he is also into illegal drugs.

No I don't think he needs that, he play the same when he is on college and by that he got an attention since he's hustle can annoyed players and destroyed their game phase. Maybe he got that attitude playing on streets so expect that he's playing style is something like physical.

Provably Abueva will learn a lesson for that but I don't think he will change and became soft when he came back.

I saw some of his highlights in college, he was the MVP IIRC but he doesn't have a kind of big fight that he experience in his time in the PBA.



That one is really hard to forget, and that's the reason why he got suspended indefinitely, I've watch the reply a lot of times and I saw what he did could kill a person, that's in the throat I guess and he is also a strong guy although Terrence was really a beast.
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July 15, 2020, 06:39:46 PM
On the other hand if the BOD will still not allow him to play, I'm thinking that he will bite to the offer from Japan. Do you think that this is possible if he will still not be allowed to play after the BOD decides??.
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His contract will probably expire this month of September.
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Well, that is just 2 months away and if the BOD doesn't have a decision before the expiration of his contract then he may play in other countries for money because we know already how much money did he lost in not playing for almost a year or more.

No I don't think he needs that, he play the same when he is on college and by that he got an attention since he's hustle can annoyed players and destroyed their game phase. Maybe he got that attitude playing on streets so expect that he's playing style is something like physical.

Provably Abueva will learn a lesson for that but I don't think he will change and became soft when he came back.
Abueva is being known for his attitude inside the court hence his name "The Beast" is applicable for him but at that time when he did the wrong thing that cause him indefinite suspension is just too much. Playing physical on the court is still ok since we are known for being a physical team.

I don't think too that he will change his play style because he has been known for that way. Its just that he will adjust and minimize his actions.
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July 15, 2020, 06:12:01 PM
Good news not only for the Phoenix Squad but to the entire PBA league as fans are already missing Abueva, though he have that attitude
issues but the way he played and how athletic he is when inside the court, hopefully he will be seen
this All Filipino cup, he can adds up spice that will encourage the team to compete more aggressively.

Hopefully he truly learned his lesson which I think he realized it now.

Being a superstar is totally useless if a player behave unprofessionally.

Now that Abueva knows the struggle I'm expecting a new Abueva once he comes back. The penalty imposed to him is already enough. He should be allowed to come back now to add more competition in the PBA once the league come back.

It looks like he really has a mental problem as the last step was the series of psychological tests, lol.. probably check on him if he is also into illegal drugs.

No I don't think he needs that, he play the same when he is on college and by that he got an attention since he's hustle can annoyed players and destroyed their game phase. Maybe he got that attitude playing on streets so expect that he's playing style is something like physical.

Provably Abueva will learn a lesson for that but I don't think he will change and became soft when he came back.
hero member
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July 15, 2020, 06:06:50 PM
Good news not only for the Phoenix Squad but to the entire PBA league as fans are already missing Abueva, though he have that attitude
issues but the way he played and how athletic he is when inside the court, hopefully he will be seen
this All Filipino cup, he can adds up spice that will encourage the team to compete more aggressively.

Hopefully he truly learned his lesson which I think he realized it now.

Being a superstar is totally useless if a player behave unprofessionally.

Now that Abueva knows the struggle I'm expecting a new Abueva once he comes back. The penalty imposed to him is already enough. He should be allowed to come back now to add more competition in the PBA once the league come back.

It looks like he really has a mental problem as the last step was the series of psychological tests, lol.. probably check on him if he is also into illegal drugs.
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July 15, 2020, 05:18:44 PM
Good news not only for the Phoenix Squad but to the entire PBA league as fans are already missing Abueva, though he have that attitude
issues but the way he played and how athletic he is when inside the court, hopefully he will be seen
this All Filipino cup, he can adds up spice that will encourage the team to compete more aggressively.

Hopefully he truly learned his lesson which I think he realized it now.

Being a superstar is totally useless if a player behave unprofessionally.

Now that Abueva knows the struggle I'm expecting a new Abueva once he comes back. The penalty imposed to him is already enough. He should be allowed to come back now to add more competition in the PBA once the league come back.
legendary
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July 15, 2020, 06:25:01 AM
I just hope that after this series of psychological tests, Abueva will be allowed to play in the PBA again.

He has been gone for a long time already and he has lost a lot of money already but on the other hand he is doing some charities and other activities that are helping the community.
He has been suspended for a long time, one year is too long for a suspension but I like the news that the coach tells his support and confidence as that would help Calvin Abeuva to follow comply on everything that is required to.

On the other hand if the BOD will still not allow him to play, I'm thinking that he will bite to the offer from Japan. Do you think that this is possible if he will still not be allowed to play after the BOD decides??.

If his contract will expire with his current team, then he can decide whether he will play outside and will wait for a new team to sign him up.

His contract will probably expire this month of September.

https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/24574405/calvin-abueva-signs-two-year-deal-phoenix
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July 15, 2020, 06:19:54 AM
I just hope that after this series of psychological tests, Abueva will be allowed to play in the PBA again.

He has been gone for a long time already and he has lost a lot of money already but on the other hand he is doing some charities and other activities that are helping the community. On the other hand if the BOD will still not allow him to play, I'm thinking that he will bite to the offer from Japan. Do you think that this is possible if he will still not be allowed to play after the BOD decides??.
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