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Quote from: asu on July 07, 2020, 01:21:39 PM

On the bright side, the town still have no active cases of COVID-19 and they might even use it as the place(if ever it'll resume) just like NBA in the Orlando bubble.

People there will strongly disagree if the PBA will be resumed there. Most town's Mayors are in the impression of building their names that they will not allow the virus in their respective provinces so they will limit accepting people from other places. One good record reference for election if they will able to keep it like that.

There is also no venue there that can accommodate all PBA players and staffs and as @harizen said, a big money is needed and their revenue will only rely on Television viewers and to think that their rating is not that good even before the pandemic hits the country, except when Brgy. Ginebra was on the Finals.

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Quote from: asu on July 07, 2020, 01:21:39 PM

On the bright side, the town still have no active cases of COVID-19 and they might even use it as the place(if ever it'll resume) just like NBA in the Orlando bubble.

Yes. That's one of the proposals I posted here before that might be considered if the league wants to push to resume. Since different PH regions do have their own quarantine status, PBA can choose to play outside Manila on a location where there is less strict status.

However, one problem is, that needs a decent budget since they have to rent the venue throughout the conference (around 3 months or less). Players and staff are not allowed to go back home (mostly in Manila) as part of staying in the said bubble. Regular testing should also be mandatory. PBA voice out concerns before about their loss so I doubt they will consider doing that.

Another problem is the location itself. Mostly, LGUs of the provinces don't allow visitors from those heavily infected areas. The reason some are against at "Balik-Probinsya" program that resulted in confirmed cases from those provinces with zero-cases.

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Quote from: harizen on July 06, 2020, 07:30:26 AM

Aguilar, Wong fined 20K for 5-on-5 scrimmage, will undergo swab testing

I understand the excitement of playing basketball again but these guys should follow the protocol that large gatherings are not allowed at the moment, not just in sports but for other regular activities as well. Just because IATF allows the resume of practice, players, even how popular they are, will just conduct a scrimmage.

For sure, there are other people here and not just players (obviously). The fine is small. Should serve a lesson if they will increase the fine.

In addition by this.

Here's another Aguilar breaking the quarantine protocols.

Japeth Aguilar spotted in La Union surfing town amid tourist ban:

On the bright side, the town still have no active cases of COVID-19 and they might even use it as the place(if ever it'll resume) just like NBA in the Orlando bubble.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 07, 2020, 05:27:25 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on July 06, 2020, 05:57:38 PM

He's not pick up for height he got chosen by his talent so I believe he can compete with other imports since his main weapon is effectiveness,athleticism,quickness and offensive threat. Japan see it that's why they choose thirdy as an import option. And for sure those ideas is part of marketing strategy since if they bring up pinoy imports on their league they will also brought a million fans.

As i have said on my post above, Thirdy has basketball talent and in fact he have shown it in the UAAP but it's another story when you go up against somebody in a pro league. Thirdy does not have yet the experience so it's a gamble on the team that pick him up as an import. This is interesting on how he will fare on that league.

The pressure is high on him as he needs to prove he is worthy of the contract or the money that he is getting playing with San-en NeoPhoenix.
It seems like he was accelerated since he does not have experience in the PBA before he played internationally, but I trust the team who signed him that they know what they are doing, they might see some potential from Thirdy that could help the team that we didn't see.

Quote from: bisdak40 on July 07, 2020, 05:27:25 AM

Does anyone here know when that Japan league would begun?

The latest news I can search online was the cancel of the remainder of the season, there's no news yet when the league will open.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 07, 2020, 05:27:25 AM

Does anyone here know when that Japan league would begun?

I think there is still mo official date announcement when B. League would begun(were Thirdy headed).

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Basketball B.League Next Matches will appear here as soon as bookmaker betting odds become available.

https://www.oddsportal.com/basketball/japan/b-league/

You can take a look at this website that all news are about Japan Basketball League. Hope that helps.

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Quote from: ultrloa on July 06, 2020, 05:57:38 PM

He's not pick up for height he got chosen by his talent so I believe he can compete with other imports since his main weapon is effectiveness,athleticism,quickness and offensive threat. Japan see it that's why they choose thirdy as an import option. And for sure those ideas is part of marketing strategy since if they bring up pinoy imports on their league they will also brought a million fans.

As i have said on my post above, Thirdy has basketball talent and in fact he have shown it in the UAAP but it's another story when you go up against somebody in a pro league. Thirdy does not have yet the experience so it's a gamble on the team that pick him up as an import. This is interesting on how he will fare on that league.

Does anyone here know when that Japan league would begun?

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Nonetheless, the PBA is thankful enough to the IATF for its nod on the league's plan which hopefully leads all the way to the PBA restart by October.

The PBA board of governors will make the final decision on whether to resume the season or scrap it in a key meeting in August.

We'll see now by the next month if PBA will resume or not. Mark the date.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 07, 2020, 02:59:58 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 07, 2020, 12:59:48 AM

Also, I'm thinking of the PAGCOR casino, it's billion pesos revenue that we will be missing if that will not be re-open, so these are big revenue generating business that are vital to help the economy of the Philippines.

It's a big loss indeed, but there's no other option but to prevent gamblers to have close interactions, it's a risk for the economy that the government needs to face, budget who are enjoying the taxes and income from this business is now needed to cover by the financial aid from the government.

I have already laid out one good option in my post above, just like the NBA, they can go to a place where they can play and resume the season without a crowd. The economy will surely suffer if our government is afraid to risk, because whether the PBA will resume or not, the number of covid cases will still continue to resume, and that is slowly cutting our finances.

Therefore without a proper balancing between the economy and the health issues, there's no way the Philippines can survive this long battle.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 07, 2020, 12:59:48 AM

Also, I'm thinking of the PAGCOR casino, it's billion pesos revenue that we will be missing if that will not be re-open, so these are big revenue generating business that are vital to help the economy of the Philippines.

It's a big loss indeed, but there's no other option but to prevent gamblers to have close interactions, it's a risk for the economy that the government needs to face, budget who are enjoying the taxes and income from this business is now needed to cover by the financial aid from the government.

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Quote from: erikoy on July 07, 2020, 01:41:58 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 07, 2020, 12:59:48 AM

Will see, I'm not seeing PBA cannot resume this year though, I am thinking on how the people on their organizations especially the players will be able to survive, though they are earning well but they are just receiving their salary too and they have different lifestyle, so just like what NBA did, I think PBA will still resume no matter what.

Also, I'm thinking of the PAGCOR casino, it's billion pesos revenue that we will be missing if that will not be re-open, so these are big revenue generating business that are vital to help the economy of the Philippines.

No, it is possibly not for now for there are guidelines being set from the IATF which for now sports that has physical contact is not allowed. There are only certain provimces do allow for now to open entertainment esrbalishment due to zero record of covid case.

I understand.. They issued a memo recently allowing the training or basketball and football again, but without contact, and other measures will have to be observed, it's all here - https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1107883

I guess there's always a way if the PBA would really want to resume, if other provinces has no cases of covid-19, then they can go to that area to play basketball and stay their until the conference or the season is over.

Just like what the NBA did, right?
They went to Orlando to finish the NBA season, so anything is really possible for the sake of helping the economy.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 07, 2020, 12:59:48 AM

Will see, I'm not seeing PBA cannot resume this year though, I am thinking on how the people on their organizations especially the players will be able to survive, though they are earning well but they are just receiving their salary too and they have different lifestyle, so just like what NBA did, I think PBA will still resume no matter what.

Also, I'm thinking of the PAGCOR casino, it's billion pesos revenue that we will be missing if that will not be re-open, so these are big revenue generating business that are vital to help the economy of the Philippines.

No, it is possibly not for now for there are guidelines being set from the IATF which for now sports that has physical contact is not allowed. There are only certain provimces do allow for now to open entertainment esrbalishment due to zero record of covid case.

Besides the PBA l organization coule not risk als to let the players resume their plays for all the blame will be to them. And again this is a violation for now not only in physical contact but clearly the no crowd gathering policy of not more than 10 individuals.

If you are just hearing news to resume PBA then that is just rumors for now the Philippine country striving to fight the transmission of virus and then in just a small amount of mistake lockdown will going to happen again. Pretty sure it will be a disaster.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 07, 2020, 12:34:44 AM

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Quote from: harizen on July 06, 2020, 07:30:26 AM

1,000+, 2,000+ everyday confirmed cases. The majority came from Metro Manila. These players should take the pandemic seriously.

Seriously.

A lot of rumors are spreading that Metro Manila would go back to ECQ to extent that we just hit our highest average cases per day, which 2,400 plus.

If that happens. I don't think PBA will resume this year.

With the numbers of cases being added from day to day, The chance of bringing ECQ back is very possible. The government needs to take actions avoiding to spread and infect more people. With that, probably PBA might be back next year no question it's more important to prevent more damages than thinking about business and entertainment, sorry to say without the vaccine this virus needs to take care more strictly.

Will see, I'm not seeing PBA cannot resume this year though, I am thinking on how the people on their organizations especially the players will be able to survive, though they are earning well but they are just receiving their salary too and they have different lifestyle, so just like what NBA did, I think PBA will still resume no matter what.

Also, I'm thinking of the PAGCOR casino, it's billion pesos revenue that we will be missing if that will not be re-open, so these are big revenue generating business that are vital to help the economy of the Philippines.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 07, 2020, 12:34:44 AM

With the numbers of cases being added from day to day, The chance of bringing ECQ back is very possible. The government needs to take actions avoiding to spread and infect more people. With that, probably PBA might be back next year no question it's more important to prevent more damages than thinking about business and entertainment, sorry to say without the vaccine this virus needs to take care more strictly.

Honestly, it sucks.

Government lifted Metro Manila to GCQ as they've realized that they can't help all the poorest of the poor citizen to supply foods for so long. They just let operating some of the businesses, transportation, etc... and turned out not well, but more worse. Pretty bad call, afterall.

Lots of people are now going out even if it's not necessary to go out as there's no police/soldier now patrolling. In mid July they have to bring back Metro Manila to ECQ or more worse would happen (hope I'm wrong). Lips sealed

I wonder were they're going to use all of the loans.

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Quote from: asu on July 06, 2020, 09:55:31 PM

Quote from: harizen on July 06, 2020, 07:30:26 AM

1,000+, 2,000+ everyday confirmed cases. The majority came from Metro Manila. These players should take the pandemic seriously.

Seriously.

A lot of rumors are spreading that Metro Manila would go back to ECQ to extent that we just hit our highest average cases per day, which 2,400 plus.

If that happens. I don't think PBA will resume this year.

With the numbers of cases being added from day to day, The chance of bringing ECQ back is very possible. The government needs to take actions avoiding to spread and infect more people. With that, probably PBA might be back next year no question it's more important to prevent more damages than thinking about business and entertainment, sorry to say without the vaccine this virus needs to take care more strictly.

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Quote from: harizen on July 06, 2020, 07:30:26 AM

1,000+, 2,000+ everyday confirmed cases. The majority came from Metro Manila. These players should take the pandemic seriously.

Seriously.

A lot of rumors are spreading that Metro Manila would go back to ECQ to extent that we just hit our highest average cases per day, which 2,400 plus.

If that happens. I don't think PBA will resume this year.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 06, 2020, 03:35:10 PM

Quote from: Finestream on July 05, 2020, 05:51:38 AM

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Quote from: ultrloa on July 05, 2020, 04:39:01 AM

It's better for him to play in phils since he can earned more and will be trained well by the elite coaches on PBA.

He can't earn that amount in the Philippines playing in the PBA as a rookie, with his salary now, he is even getting paid bigger than JMF if it's true that he is earning at least 1 million pesos per month.

AFAIK, JMF's salary is only Php 500, 000 per month, so yeah, Thirdy has a higher salary than him and hopefully it's not an insult to the PBA that they can't provide a good salary that's some player starting to choose playing abroad.

With regards to Thirdy, the kid is very talented but i don't think he got the height that can compete with other imports especially coming from the US and Europe. There maybe some other motives on why they are bringing Pinoy imports to Japan, have read some article that there lots of Filipinos there so maybe Filipino imports would serve as crowd booster as well as they knew how fanatics Filipinos are to basketball specially if they see their kababayan playing overseas.

He's not pick up for height he got chosen by his talent so I believe he can compete with other imports since his main weapon is effectiveness,athleticism,quickness and offensive threat. Japan see it that's why they choose thirdy as an import option. And for sure those ideas is part of marketing strategy since if they bring up pinoy imports on their league they will also brought a million fans.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 06, 2020, 03:35:10 PM

Quote from: Finestream on July 05, 2020, 05:51:38 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on July 05, 2020, 04:45:45 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on July 05, 2020, 04:39:01 AM

It's better for him to play in phils since he can earned more and will be trained well by the elite coaches on PBA.

He can't earn that amount in the Philippines playing in the PBA as a rookie, with his salary now, he is even getting paid bigger than JMF if it's true that he is earning at least 1 million pesos per month.

AFAIK, JMF's salary is only Php 500, 000 per month, so yeah, Thirdy has a higher salary than him and hopefully it's not an insult to the PBA that they can't provide a good salary that's some player starting to choose playing abroad.

Same here in the PBA where imports have bigger salaries in their contracts but we should also note that they are short term and they should do all their best to impress their company if they want to get a contract extension or whatever.

With regards to Thirdy, the kid is very talented but i don't think he got the height that can compete with other imports especially coming from the US and Europe. There maybe some other motives on why they are bringing Pinoy imports to Japan, have read some article that there lots of Filipinos there so maybe Filipino imports would serve as crowd booster as well as they knew how fanatics Filipinos are to basketball specially if they see their kababayan playing overseas.

Thirdy has been competing internationally through the national team, though he is not tall but like you said he is talented, well, let's give him the opportunity to prove his skills in Japan, then let's judge, but if his contract would be short, surely the PBA is willing to accept him when he comes back.

This is business, so they might have that kind of motive, but if Thirdy will not perform his usual, I don't think Filipino fans would waste their time supporting their "KABAYAN" when he is not exciting to watch at all.

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Quote from: Finestream on July 05, 2020, 05:51:38 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on July 05, 2020, 04:45:45 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on July 05, 2020, 04:39:01 AM

It's better for him to play in phils since he can earned more and will be trained well by the elite coaches on PBA.

He can't earn that amount in the Philippines playing in the PBA as a rookie, with his salary now, he is even getting paid bigger than JMF if it's true that he is earning at least 1 million pesos per month.

AFAIK, JMF's salary is only Php 500, 000 per month, so yeah, Thirdy has a higher salary than him and hopefully it's not an insult to the PBA that they can't provide a good salary that's some player starting to choose playing abroad.

Same here in the PBA where imports have bigger salaries in their contracts but we should also note that they are short term and they should do all their best to impress their company if they want to get a contract extension or whatever.

With regards to Thirdy, the kid is very talented but i don't think he got the height that can compete with other imports especially coming from the US and Europe. There maybe some other motives on why they are bringing Pinoy imports to Japan, have read some article that there lots of Filipinos there so maybe Filipino imports would serve as crowd booster as well as they knew how fanatics Filipinos are to basketball specially if they see their kababayan playing overseas.

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Aguilar, Wong fined 20K for 5-on-5 scrimmage, will undergo swab testing

I understand the excitement of playing basketball again but these guys should follow the protocol that large gatherings are not allowed at the moment, not just in sports but for other regular activities as well. Just because IATF allows the resume of practice, players, even how popular they are, will just conduct a scrimmage.

For sure, there are other people here and not just players (obviously). The fine is small. Should serve a lesson if they will increase the fine.

1,000+, 2,000+ everyday confirmed cases. The majority came from Metro Manila. These players should take the pandemic seriously.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 05, 2020, 10:08:15 PM

Quote from: Finestream on July 05, 2020, 05:51:38 AM

AFAIK, JMF's salary is only Php 500, 000 per month, so yeah, Thirdy has a higher salary than him and hopefully it's not an insult to the PBA that they can't provide a good salary that's some player starting to choose playing abroad.

JMF salary that we know by papers is indeed much lesser than the offer for Thirdy, but remember there's also info that Danny I (Lakai) said about underground or outside the contract and it's much bigger than the regular salary.

I'm not sure that is possible, otherwise BIR will go after the team and JMF for intransparency.
You know the tax thing.

Quote from: Fredomago on July 05, 2020, 10:08:15 PM

Quote from: Finestream on July 05, 2020, 05:51:38 AM

This guy Kai sotto has the highest salary per month.

Kai Sotto G League deal worth at least P10M for five months, says report

So even if he will fail on his journey in the USA, I don't think PBA would be the next to offer him a good salary, most probably other league are also aiming for him.

In regards to Kai, after NBA G-League if ever he didn't made it, Euroleague might be he's next destination. If money matters the league can give bigger offers.

Most probably, but I'm hoping he will succeed on his journey to the NBA so we will have our first Filipino NBA player in the NBA.
Based on the progress, I think he is on the right path already.

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