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Quote from: Sanitough on May 18, 2020, 10:17:05 PM

I think if he is out of contract now and he will get signed by a certain team, then for sure that team still sees he can contribute.
This guy is not active as well with the Bolts, and even if he will get sign, for sure he will only get a very small playing time.

Here is some information on Chris Lutz.

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Meralco holds the rights to Lutz, who the franchise picked from the free-agency list after being let go by San Miguel.

Unfortunately, Lutz hasn’t played a single game for the Bolts since landing there in 2017, no thanks to an assortment of injuries to the foot, ankle and back that kept him from making a comeback.

This guy plays like Marcio Lassiter, good defender and a good wingman as well when he was healthy. As I've read in the article, a comeback is a slim possibility since he is not yet on basketball shape and father time is catching up on him.

Chris Lutz interested in a PBA comeback by next season, says agent

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Quote from: Finestream on May 18, 2020, 06:32:15 PM

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Lutz was a good defender as well, if I am not mistaken, he was part of the first 5 of the SMB line up? and he was just on and off because of injury, IIRC, I've seen him played with Marcio Lassiter in a line up, and this guy is quick as well. I checked on google and he is already 35 years old now, this means his life with the PBA is very short in case he will come back, but it would give a boost of the current line up and they need that since Fajardo is out, they will be a faster team now.

First of all, he is not an SMB player anymore so if he will come back, he will play for the Meralco Bolts, the team that signed him after SMB.

But for let's say the subject here is playing with SMB, that will be a bad move for SMB. 2 years of break, coming from injury, not ready to play yet, almost in the retirement season, why should they sign him. They even put Lutz as an unrestricted free agent.

I see that his desire for a comeback is not 100% but just a consideration. He likes to play but injuries keeping him off.

After all, he has a nice run as a PBA player with 3 championships.

My bad, maybe because I only see him actively playing in SMB and wasn't really playing with the Meralco Bolts.
I don't understand why meralco are signing players that are injury prone, 2 players I know that did great in their previous team but wasn't really contributing a lot when sign by the Meralco, De Ocampo and Luts maybe.

if he will come back, maybe he can help with his experience, he wasn't playing for 2 years already? that's long but as a player with the passion in basketball, I guess he can still get back and contribute to his team, 2 years of not playing in the PBA but if active outside the PBA then we can still expect something from him.

They see a good potential on him that's why they signed them up but sadly he still cannot get up on his shoes and maybe this is a career ending injury for him since even up till know he's still not back in action, He's aging now and provably the boltz would get another player if things will not go as there plan, But I still doubt if he can perform well after he came back since it's been a long time he's out on the court and provably he will struggle.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 18, 2020, 06:59:14 PM

I can't believe that Luts is not officially retired yet. I thought he is gone for good as he is out of the country for quite some time. I just only remember him because of the thread lol.

I knew he wasn't retired yet but I haven't seen him actively playing, even before the time when he was still in the SMB, he is not active anymore.

Quote from: chaser15 on May 18, 2020, 06:59:14 PM

Reading articles around him, I think he is not capable of a comeback. It will take some time as he needs to practice and be used to play again. His physical activities are all stopped because of the injury.

Maybe a comeback at the age of 37-38 with a 1-year contract. Still, he is under contract with the Bolts so no problem with signing. But until when he is signed by the Bolts?

I think if he is out of contract now and he will get signed by a certain team, then for sure that team still sees he can contribute.
This guy is not active as well with the Bolts, and even if he will get sign, for sure he will only get a very small playing time.

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I can't believe that Luts is not officially retired yet. I thought he is gone for good as he is out of the country for quite some time. I just only remember him because of the thread lol.

Reading articles around him, I think he is not capable of a comeback. It will take some time as he needs to practice and be used to play again. His physical activities are all stopped because of the injury.

Maybe a comeback at the age of 37-38 with a 1-year contract. Still, he is under contract with the Bolts so no problem with signing. But until when he is signed by the Bolts?

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Quote from: harizen on May 18, 2020, 06:14:35 PM

Quote from: Finestream on May 18, 2020, 05:34:55 PM

Lutz was a good defender as well, if I am not mistaken, he was part of the first 5 of the SMB line up? and he was just on and off because of injury, IIRC, I've seen him played with Marcio Lassiter in a line up, and this guy is quick as well. I checked on google and he is already 35 years old now, this means his life with the PBA is very short in case he will come back, but it would give a boost of the current line up and they need that since Fajardo is out, they will be a faster team now.

First of all, he is not an SMB player anymore so if he will come back, he will play for the Meralco Bolts, the team that signed him after SMB.

But for let's say the subject here is playing with SMB, that will be a bad move for SMB. 2 years of break, coming from injury, not ready to play yet, almost in the retirement season, why should they sign him. They even put Lutz as an unrestricted free agent.

I see that his desire for a comeback is not 100% but just a consideration. He likes to play but injuries keeping him off.

After all, he has a nice run as a PBA player with 3 championships.

My bad, maybe because I only see him actively playing in SMB and wasn't really playing with the Meralco Bolts.
I don't understand why meralco are signing players that are injury prone, 2 players I know that did great in their previous team but wasn't really contributing a lot when sign by the Meralco, De Ocampo and Luts maybe.

if he will come back, maybe he can help with his experience, he wasn't playing for 2 years already? that's long but as a player with the passion in basketball, I guess he can still get back and contribute to his team, 2 years of not playing in the PBA but if active outside the PBA then we can still expect something from him.

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Quote from: Finestream on May 18, 2020, 05:34:55 PM

Lutz was a good defender as well, if I am not mistaken, he was part of the first 5 of the SMB line up? and he was just on and off because of injury, IIRC, I've seen him played with Marcio Lassiter in a line up, and this guy is quick as well. I checked on google and he is already 35 years old now, this means his life with the PBA is very short in case he will come back, but it would give a boost of the current line up and they need that since Fajardo is out, they will be a faster team now.

First of all, he is not an SMB player anymore so if he will come back, he will play for the Meralco Bolts, the team that signed him after SMB.

But for let's say the subject here is playing with SMB, that will be a bad move for SMB. 2 years of break, coming from injury, not ready to play yet, almost in the retirement season, why should they sign him. They even put Lutz as an unrestricted free agent.

I see that his desire for a comeback is not 100% but just a consideration. He likes to play but injuries keeping him off.

After all, he has a nice run as a PBA player with 3 championships.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 18, 2020, 04:56:14 PM

About Chris Lutz, have also read that he is making a PBA comeback but is stalled because of the pandemic. I will try to find the link and post it here if possible.

Lutz was a good defender as well, if I am not mistaken, he was part of the first 5 of the SMB line up? and he was just on and off because of injury, IIRC, I've seen him played with Marcio Lassiter in a line up, and this guy is quick as well. I checked on google and he is already 35 years old now, this means his life with the PBA is very short in case he will come back, but it would give a boost of the current line up and they need that since Fajardo is out, they will be a faster team now.

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Quote from: Sanitough on May 18, 2020, 05:03:39 AM

TBH I'm never seen Biboy Ravanes played even a vintage video, have never seen him and don't know him but those guys listed together with him, of course I've seen them all and I miss Chris Luts, he was one of the favorite in SMB, don't know what happen to him already.

Neither I have seen him play live bro

, just read articles and heard from PBA anchors on how good of a defender he is and was amazed to see this article about him being the best rookie the SMB had stats-wise.

About Chris Lutz, have also read that he is making a PBA comeback but is stalled because of the pandemic. I will try to find the link and post it here if possible.

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TBH I'm never seen Biboy Ravanes played even a vintage video, have never seen him and don't know him but those guys listed together with him, of course I've seen them all and I miss Chris Luts, he was one of the favorite in SMB, don't know what happen to him already.

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Found an interesting article, i never thought that Biboy Ravanes was once an offensive player. I have known him for being a defensive player, seen him shut down opponent's ace player and import in a reinforced PBA conference.

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This player had the best all-Filipino conference by an SMB rookie

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/this-smb-player-had-the-best-all-filipino-conference-as-a-rookie-a1396-20200513?ref=home_hybrid_1

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Quote from: ultrloa on May 16, 2020, 05:14:20 AM

But in other hand if they will pursue their NBA dream them we might gonna struggle getting them just like clarkson since they have certain restrictions with their players.

These players are going for NBA, about the restriction, I think it can be work out, getting even 2 or 3 of them would already give a boost to the team.
Although I like the PH team to get stronger, I would still love to see a pure blooded Filipino carry the team and show their heart in a big competition.

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Coach Tab knows how to balance his players he can now pick the best one and trained them back, He already have knowledge with players that can be competitive and knows to play internationally, it's not hard for him to call those deserving players to play again and regroup, only those who are retired and already aging that's needed to be replaced and we all know that there are lots of new players who can fill in.

I'm not expecting much from coach Tab when he take over the Gilas head coaching job. We might be disappointed because however beautiful his system is but he don't have the kind of player suitable for this, then it's useless. But if in 2023 he could get the likes of Kai Sotto, Jalen Green, Jordan Ckarkson, Remy Martin and AJ Edu this could be huge to Philippine basketball.

True, those Players are ready to compete internationally and if they are willing to represent our country just like Clarkson, combination of good system plus competitive players. Those mentioned names plus our locals who are also capable to represent our country.
He can combined new and old gilas then add fresh legs that also fits his system.

Do they have PH passport already I heard some of them got issue with their passport so maybe this issue will come out on future, If they will be successfully inserted on Gilas system for sure this is a great boost with the PH team since they might reach up to the finals since this kids are pretty solid. But in other hand if they will pursue their NBA dream them we might gonna struggle getting them just like clarkson since they have certain restrictions with their players.

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Coach Tab knows how to balance his players he can now pick the best one and trained them back, He already have knowledge with players that can be competitive and knows to play internationally, it's not hard for him to call those deserving players to play again and regroup, only those who are retired and already aging that's needed to be replaced and we all know that there are lots of new players who can fill in.

I'm not expecting much from coach Tab when he take over the Gilas head coaching job. We might be disappointed because however beautiful his system is but he don't have the kind of player suitable for this, then it's useless. But if in 2023 he could get the likes of Kai Sotto, Jalen Green, Jordan Ckarkson, Remy Martin and AJ Edu this could be huge to Philippine basketball.

True, those Players are ready to compete internationally and if they are willing to represent our country just like Clarkson, combination of good system plus competitive players. Those mentioned names plus our locals who are also capable to represent our country.
He can combined new and old gilas then add fresh legs that also fits his system.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 15, 2020, 05:35:50 PM

We might be disappointed because however beautiful his system is but he don't have the kind of player suitable for this, then it's useless.

You have a valid point here. But exposing Gilas players to a system that they aren't used to might change the phase of the game compare sticking to their usual. Tab knows the majority of all Gilas players so he already has that idea where he will assign a player on a specific role.

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But if in 2023 he could get the likes of Kai Sotto, Jalen Green, Jordan Ckarkson, Remy Martin and AJ Edu this could be huge to Philippine basketball.

That was a tough job and I doubt Tab have that big influence for that to happen. But who knows and I hope too that will happen. A big boost to our National team.

Jordan Clarkson as an NBA player, under contract, will surely again go in a tough process before he will be allowed to play for the country.

As for Jalen Green, I don't know if he will meet the FIBA eligibility requirements to be considered a Filipino citizen. But for other international cups, maybe he will be considered.

For Remy Martin, he is somehow eligible as he has dual citizenship. But our Nationals already have lots of guards although we need young ones.

AJ Edu is a big thing. At his height, he is athletic and defensive. The National should get this kid in the future.

Kai Sotto, no comment for now. Still watching his progress.

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Quote from: Golftech on May 15, 2020, 05:35:06 AM

Coach Tab knows how to balance his players he can now pick the best one and trained them back, He already have knowledge with players that can be competitive and knows to play internationally, it's not hard for him to call those deserving players to play again and regroup, only those who are retired and already aging that's needed to be replaced and we all know that there are lots of new players who can fill in.

I'm not expecting much from coach Tab when he take over the Gilas head coaching job. We might be disappointed because however beautiful his system is but he don't have the kind of player suitable for this, then it's useless. But if in 2023 he could get the likes of Kai Sotto, Jalen Green, Jordan Ckarkson, Remy Martin and AJ Edu this could be huge to Philippine basketball.

Wow, this could be a great support for the Philippine team, only if possible. Kai Sotto is the only true full blooded filipino here but that's alright, we will all be proud as long as the Philippines will be able to raise their flags in the international competition. I have seen some highlights of the young fellas like Remy Martin and Jalen Green but haven't seen AJ Edu yet, I'll check this guy out...

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Quote from: Golftech on May 15, 2020, 05:35:06 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on May 15, 2020, 04:55:46 AM

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last time, coach yeng were not able to handle the team as what people are expected, so the love was lost.

I was also disappointed the last time, looks like the Gilas team was not compose by the best players in the PBA, so I wasn't so excited to watch them play.
With coach Tab, I am sure there is going to be an improvement, better result than the last time for sure, and I think the suspension for our Gilas players was already over, so the Gilas coaching staff will be able to pick the best players in the PBA to represent the country again.

Coach Tab knows how to balance his players he can now pick the best one and trained them back, He already have knowledge with players that can be competitive and knows to play internationally, it's not hard for him to call those deserving players to play again and regroup, only those who are retired and already aging that's needed to be replaced and we all know that there are lots of new players who can fill in.

Good that he is not coaching a PBA team so there will be no bias in the selection process, people will be happy to know if he will be the one to officially handle the team. Can't wait to see the Gilas play then, hopefully this pandemic will be over soon so they can start flexing their muscles in the court.

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Quote from: Golftech on May 15, 2020, 05:35:06 AM

Coach Tab knows how to balance his players he can now pick the best one and trained them back, He already have knowledge with players that can be competitive and knows to play internationally, it's not hard for him to call those deserving players to play again and regroup, only those who are retired and already aging that's needed to be replaced and we all know that there are lots of new players who can fill in.

I'm not expecting much from coach Tab when he take over the Gilas head coaching job. We might be disappointed because however beautiful his system is but he don't have the kind of player suitable for this, then it's useless. But if in 2023 he could get the likes of Kai Sotto, Jalen Green, Jordan Ckarkson, Remy Martin and AJ Edu this could be huge to Philippine basketball.

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Quote from: Vaculin on May 15, 2020, 04:55:46 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2020, 12:32:30 AM

last time, coach yeng were not able to handle the team as what people are expected, so the love was lost.

I was also disappointed the last time, looks like the Gilas team was not compose by the best players in the PBA, so I wasn't so excited to watch them play.
With coach Tab, I am sure there is going to be an improvement, better result than the last time for sure, and I think the suspension for our Gilas players was already over, so the Gilas coaching staff will be able to pick the best players in the PBA to represent the country again.

Coach Tab knows how to balance his players he can now pick the best one and trained them back, He already have knowledge with players that can be competitive and knows to play internationally, it's not hard for him to call those deserving players to play again and regroup, only those who are retired and already aging that's needed to be replaced and we all know that there are lots of new players who can fill in.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2020, 12:32:30 AM

last time, coach yeng were not able to handle the team as what people are expected, so the love was lost.

I was also disappointed the last time, looks like the Gilas team was not compose by the best players in the PBA, so I wasn't so excited to watch them play.
With coach Tab, I am sure there is going to be an improvement, better result than the last time for sure, and I think the suspension for our Gilas players was already over, so the Gilas coaching staff will be able to pick the best players in the PBA to represent the country again.

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Quote from: Nellayar on May 14, 2020, 06:34:56 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on May 14, 2020, 05:40:17 PM

I guess I have to agree with you, I've seen Coach Reyes and Yeng handle the Gilas, they are not anywhere near to the achievement of coach tab though he only handles in one time if I am not mistaken. The time coach Tab handles the Team Gilas, we were recognize in the FIBA world and that's the time where Romeo was so popular, I think we will again see that under Coach Tab, so I support the SBP's decision to put him back.

Coach Yeng and Coach Chot are really good coaches with different styles in rotating and selecting their best players. They have also their different stats and achievements regarding on how they brought the Philippines into a international stage like FIBA, SEABA and so on.

However, I agree with you @Vaculin. I also want coach tab baldwin to bring back because he knows the play in international setting. And when I saw how he coached the Gilas before, it is way too different than others. I would also like to get back the players handled by him in Gilas. They are more aggressive and real court players rather than the picks of Yeng (Belga) and Reyes (Gio).

Filipinos are good in criticizing coach, we don't love our own so maybe getting a foreigner coach would help the Gilas get the support.
I one saw a post when Gilas loss, it says "UTAK HINDI PUSO"... that would really hurt the coaches as in the eyes of the fans, it's the coach that should be blame.

last time, coach yeng were not able to handle the team as what people are expected, so the love was lost.

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