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legendary
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May 09, 2020, 06:22:48 PM
Precisely. The issue regarding to abs-cbn is still fresh and if tv5 is planning to offer PPV they needed to make sure that the offer is included to their franchise contract as the cable company can also sue them. With how the government handled abs-cbn issue it's not impossible that it can also be applied to other network who will commit same cases.

I guess you have a point here, so if the PBA organization, can't make money from the crowd, then they will only get if from their usual advertisers, so if they still think that would be alright to pursue the return of the PBA, then so be it.

I remember about ABS CBN, I guess TV stations now are more than careful as the biggest network is currently down.
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May 09, 2020, 10:26:20 AM
No live audience equals limited profit and imagine how big amount will lose to the management if they will rely on advertisements or in other forms since for sure the payments of players,staff and the venue cost huge so implementing this is bit suicide for them and the game is so different since I would not enjoy the game without a crowd shouting or cheering their favorite teams.
Maybe they can sell the subscription, like a PPV, I think those sports fans would rather subscribe and pay than not seeing anything at all.
Also, I know some people are gambling heavily on these sports, so those who like to gamble will surely avail on the subscription,I don't know how much they are going to make but at least they are making an income despite of the situation we are facing now.
They also have to be careful with that, offering a PPV service might not be based on their franchise, if they know what happen to ABS CBN, they got criticized for asking payment on a free to air channels that they got from a free frequency, so TV5 should be careful with this.
Precisely. The issue regarding to abs-cbn is still fresh and if tv5 is planning to offer PPV they needed to make sure that the offer is included to their franchise contract as the cable company can also sue them. With how the government handled abs-cbn issue it's not impossible that it can also be applied to other network who will commit same cases.
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May 09, 2020, 07:50:32 AM
No live audience equals limited profit and imagine how big amount will lose to the management if they will rely on advertisements or in other forms since for sure the payments of players,staff and the venue cost huge so implementing this is bit suicide for them and the game is so different since I would not enjoy the game without a crowd shouting or cheering their favorite teams.
Maybe they can sell the subscription, like a PPV, I think those sports fans would rather subscribe and pay than not seeing anything at all.
Also, I know some people are gambling heavily on these sports, so those who like to gamble will surely avail on the subscription,I don't know how much they are going to make but at least they are making an income despite of the situation we are facing now.
They also have to be careful with that, offering a PPV service might not be based on their franchise, if they know what happen to ABS CBN, they got criticized for asking payment on a free to air channels that they got from a free frequency, so TV5 should be careful with this.
legendary
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May 09, 2020, 06:04:14 AM
No live audience equals limited profit and imagine how big amount will lose to the management if they will rely on advertisements or in other forms since for sure the payments of players,staff and the venue cost huge so implementing this is bit suicide for them and the game is so different since I would not enjoy the game without a crowd shouting or cheering their favorite teams.
Maybe they can sell the subscription, like a PPV, I think those sports fans would rather subscribe and pay than not seeing anything at all.
Also, I know some people are gambling heavily on these sports, so those who like to gamble will surely avail on the subscription,I don't know how much they are going to make but at least they are making an income despite of the situation we are facing now.
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May 09, 2020, 05:56:01 AM
It's very sad and unfortunate for us waiting for the games to start especially waiting for our favorite team schedule to play and also their road games but we cannot do nothing with this since this is global issue and worse case scenario will come if we or they will not follow what the experts orders so for the safety of all and if we want to make fast to get back our normal life we should cooperate as well the other to stop the social gatherings for now and let this case controlled so that if the vaccine became available the games for sure came back with different intensity.

It is not the priority, a lot of people are struggling right now, the PBA players will survive as they have good salary and hopefully they have savings as well.
PBA has been an entertainment for us but the measures impose by the government is necessary to keep the number of infection to be limited only, so as soon as the covid-19 will be defeated, maybe that's the time we can see this league to resume again.

We need vaccine to fully stop the virus, but if the virus will just die because it cannot be spread anymore, maybe it could help our economy to recover again and though sports is not the priority, but sooner it will re open and we will once again enjoy it.

I am sure the owners or the organization in any sports and in any part of the world already understands that if they will wait for the vaccine, they will loss their business, so its expected that they are already planning now on how to put a certain measures that will make players safe and people involve when they will resume the game.

TBH, I thought that there is no chance for it to happen, only the vaccine will keep the sports to resume but it's not realistic if we will wait years for them to resume, and just like other countries are doing, they are still resuming the sports despite of the covid-19 threat.

For sure it will that's why we cannot see any games running right now and if they insist to continue this still the president will not allow since he know how dangerous this plan is, We know our president will not let any gatherings to happen so we should really expect anything back to normal once this vaccine will became available.

There are potential came out already and I think we are near to have a cure and provably we will have that in next following months.
I think possibilities to continue the season is indeed but of course for live streaming only and for the audience?limiting to 1/3 of the capacity can prevent the spreading of virus.

So basically this can be done but of course with assurance to the public that administration will assure the safety and health of players and fans.

Lets accept that having a management system every event can be done.

No live audience equals limited profit and imagine how big amount will lose to the management if they will rely on advertisements or in other forms since for sure the payments of players,staff and the venue cost huge so implementing this is bit suicide for them and the game is so different since I would not enjoy the game without a crowd shouting or cheering their favorite teams.
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May 09, 2020, 05:19:43 AM
For sure it will that's why we cannot see any games running right now and if they insist to continue this still the president will not allow since he know how dangerous this plan is, We know our president will not let any gatherings to happen so we should really expect anything back to normal once this vaccine will became available.

There are potential came out already and I think we are near to have a cure and provably we will have that in next following months.
Definitely, worst is that they might get fined for insisting on resuming the league although the President's decision were sometimes odd, so we can't be certain, IMO. But whatever, best bet that remains here is having the league to remain shutdown at all cost until as @Russlenat mentioned, vaccines became available and be released in the market, and/or when the virus die since there were no transmissions anymore which would be very difficult to happen but possible by ordering strict rules and having a disciplined and law abiding citizens (high hopes for it to happen lol). They might be able to fulfill the interest of missin' the game but when they mistakenly let a single player, staff or whoever it is get inside the stadium unknowingly that it carries the virus, it would be an end game for 'em, and they must fixed as soon as possible.
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May 09, 2020, 04:56:57 AM
I think possibilities to continue the season is indeed but of course for live streaming only and for the audience?limiting to 1/3 of the capacity can prevent the spreading of virus.
They have their channel which is TV 5 , we can watch it for free but if they will not cover it for free then we would understand as they are not making money from the crowd to watch the game, of course I am in favor of no crowd event.


So basically this can be done but of course with assurance to the public that administration will assure the safety and health of players and fans.

Lets accept that having a management system every event can be done.

True, I am optimistic that soon PBA will make a decision and to hear a good news that they'll resume the season.
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May 09, 2020, 04:13:52 AM
It's very sad and unfortunate for us waiting for the games to start especially waiting for our favorite team schedule to play and also their road games but we cannot do nothing with this since this is global issue and worse case scenario will come if we or they will not follow what the experts orders so for the safety of all and if we want to make fast to get back our normal life we should cooperate as well the other to stop the social gatherings for now and let this case controlled so that if the vaccine became available the games for sure came back with different intensity.

It is not the priority, a lot of people are struggling right now, the PBA players will survive as they have good salary and hopefully they have savings as well.
PBA has been an entertainment for us but the measures impose by the government is necessary to keep the number of infection to be limited only, so as soon as the covid-19 will be defeated, maybe that's the time we can see this league to resume again.

We need vaccine to fully stop the virus, but if the virus will just die because it cannot be spread anymore, maybe it could help our economy to recover again and though sports is not the priority, but sooner it will re open and we will once again enjoy it.

I am sure the owners or the organization in any sports and in any part of the world already understands that if they will wait for the vaccine, they will loss their business, so its expected that they are already planning now on how to put a certain measures that will make players safe and people involve when they will resume the game.

TBH, I thought that there is no chance for it to happen, only the vaccine will keep the sports to resume but it's not realistic if we will wait years for them to resume, and just like other countries are doing, they are still resuming the sports despite of the covid-19 threat.

For sure it will that's why we cannot see any games running right now and if they insist to continue this still the president will not allow since he know how dangerous this plan is, We know our president will not let any gatherings to happen so we should really expect anything back to normal once this vaccine will became available.

There are potential came out already and I think we are near to have a cure and provably we will have that in next following months.
I think possibilities to continue the season is indeed but of course for live streaming only and for the audience?limiting to 1/3 of the capacity can prevent the spreading of virus.

So basically this can be done but of course with assurance to the public that administration will assure the safety and health of players and fans.

Lets accept that having a management system every event can be done.
legendary
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May 09, 2020, 04:03:24 AM
It's very sad and unfortunate for us waiting for the games to start especially waiting for our favorite team schedule to play and also their road games but we cannot do nothing with this since this is global issue and worse case scenario will come if we or they will not follow what the experts orders so for the safety of all and if we want to make fast to get back our normal life we should cooperate as well the other to stop the social gatherings for now and let this case controlled so that if the vaccine became available the games for sure came back with different intensity.

It is not the priority, a lot of people are struggling right now, the PBA players will survive as they have good salary and hopefully they have savings as well.
PBA has been an entertainment for us but the measures impose by the government is necessary to keep the number of infection to be limited only, so as soon as the covid-19 will be defeated, maybe that's the time we can see this league to resume again.

We need vaccine to fully stop the virus, but if the virus will just die because it cannot be spread anymore, maybe it could help our economy to recover again and though sports is not the priority, but sooner it will re open and we will once again enjoy it.

I am sure the owners or the organization in any sports and in any part of the world already understands that if they will wait for the vaccine, they will loss their business, so its expected that they are already planning now on how to put a certain measures that will make players safe and people involve when they will resume the game.

TBH, I thought that there is no chance for it to happen, only the vaccine will keep the sports to resume but it's not realistic if we will wait years for them to resume, and just like other countries are doing, they are still resuming the sports despite of the covid-19 threat.

For sure it will that's why we cannot see any games running right now and if they insist to continue this still the president will not allow since he know how dangerous this plan is, We know our president will not let any gatherings to happen so we should really expect anything back to normal once this vaccine will became available.

There are potential came out already and I think we are near to have a cure and provably we will have that in next following months.
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May 09, 2020, 03:58:18 AM
It's very sad and unfortunate for us waiting for the games to start especially waiting for our favorite team schedule to play and also their road games but we cannot do nothing with this since this is global issue and worse case scenario will come if we or they will not follow what the experts orders so for the safety of all and if we want to make fast to get back our normal life we should cooperate as well the other to stop the social gatherings for now and let this case controlled so that if the vaccine became available the games for sure came back with different intensity.

It is not the priority, a lot of people are struggling right now, the PBA players will survive as they have good salary and hopefully they have savings as well.
PBA has been an entertainment for us but the measures impose by the government is necessary to keep the number of infection to be limited only, so as soon as the covid-19 will be defeated, maybe that's the time we can see this league to resume again.

We need vaccine to fully stop the virus, but if the virus will just die because it cannot be spread anymore, maybe it could help our economy to recover again and though sports is not the priority, but sooner it will re open and we will once again enjoy it.

I am sure the owners or the organization in any sports and in any part of the world already understands that if they will wait for the vaccine, they will loss their business, so its expected that they are already planning now on how to put a certain measures that will make players safe and people involve when they will resume the game.

TBH, I thought that there is no chance for it to happen, only the vaccine will keep the sports to resume but it's not realistic if we will wait years for them to resume, and just like other countries are doing, they are still resuming the sports despite of the covid-19 threat.
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May 09, 2020, 03:26:08 AM
It's very sad and unfortunate for us waiting for the games to start especially waiting for our favorite team schedule to play and also their road games but we cannot do nothing with this since this is global issue and worse case scenario will come if we or they will not follow what the experts orders so for the safety of all and if we want to make fast to get back our normal life we should cooperate as well the other to stop the social gatherings for now and let this case controlled so that if the vaccine became available the games for sure came back with different intensity.

It is not the priority, a lot of people are struggling right now, the PBA players will survive as they have good salary and hopefully they have savings as well.
PBA has been an entertainment for us but the measures impose by the government is necessary to keep the number of infection to be limited only, so as soon as the covid-19 will be defeated, maybe that's the time we can see this league to resume again.

We need vaccine to fully stop the virus, but if the virus will just die because it cannot be spread anymore, maybe it could help our economy to recover again and though sports is not the priority, but sooner it will re open and we will once again enjoy it.
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May 08, 2020, 05:31:08 AM
Good news for the Kraken,

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/june-mar-fajardo-injury-update-spin-sidelines-a795-20200508?ref=feed_1_section

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Fajardo now walking on his own, but ECQ keeping him from starting therapy

He can walk now and he can maybe start practicing soon, this time just favor the SMB because once the reason will resume, Fajardo would be able to play again, but if the PBA will resume soon, maybe that will not happen but let's see if they can find a way to resume, if they'll be able to do that then maybe we can also expect some leagues will do the same, it's quite complicated but its possible and I know fans are hoping that PBA will return.
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May 08, 2020, 03:41:36 AM

See? There's no way for PBA to resume the games unless they've got a private island with appropriate facilities like UFC Grin.

UFC is different, it's the game of 2 fighters in the ring only, we are talking of basketball, there is a team with trainer and coaches, that means a lot of people are involve, so it's not gonna happen and there's no way they will break a law when they know how the government penalize law breakers.

Yeah I know, that's what I've said. I mentioned UFC just for a comparison Cheesy. Besides, I know that UFC is a bigger industry than PBA thus having more capabilities/resources to conduct events despite of the pandemic.

UFC is just like boxing right, maybe Philippines can follow this if they really want to still make money despite of the pandemic, and maybe it would be better if they will do it for a cause, we have a lot of Islands in the Philippines, if they will try it, then we might see it happening, this is just for the boxing, but I have doubt on basketball event.

What we are talking here is a basketball game, it's easy to move few number of people than the teams in the NBA, and in UFC or boxing, they only have to fight once for the belt or whatsoever, but in basketball there will be ranking and elimination then the Finals. I think we should just wait on the action of the NBA if they'll resume or not, then we can follow their system.
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May 08, 2020, 12:49:06 AM

See? There's no way for PBA to resume the games unless they've got a private island with appropriate facilities like UFC Grin.

UFC is different, it's the game of 2 fighters in the ring only, we are talking of basketball, there is a team with trainer and coaches, that means a lot of people are involve, so it's not gonna happen and there's no way they will break a law when they know how the government penalize law breakers.

Yeah I know, that's what I've said. I mentioned UFC just for a comparison Cheesy. Besides, I know that UFC is a bigger industry than PBA thus having more capabilities/resources to conduct events despite of the pandemic.

UFC is just like boxing right, maybe Philippines can follow this if they really want to still make money despite of the pandemic, and maybe it would be better if they will do it for a cause, we have a lot of Islands in the Philippines, if they will try it, then we might see it happening, this is just for the boxing, but I have doubt on basketball event.
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May 08, 2020, 12:38:22 AM

See? There's no way for PBA to resume the games unless they've got a private island with appropriate facilities like UFC Grin.

UFC is different, it's the game of 2 fighters in the ring only, we are talking of basketball, there is a team with trainer and coaches, that means a lot of people are involve, so it's not gonna happen and there's no way they will break a law when they know how the government penalize law breakers.

Yeah I know, that's what I've said. I mentioned UFC just for a comparison Cheesy. Besides, I know that UFC is a bigger industry than PBA thus having more capabilities/resources to conduct events despite of the pandemic.
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May 07, 2020, 10:58:15 PM

See? There's no way for PBA to resume the games unless they've got a private island with appropriate facilities like UFC Grin.

UFC is different, it's the game of 2 fighters in the ring only, we are talking of basketball, there is a team with trainer and coaches, that means a lot of people are involve, so it's not gonna happen and there's no way they will break a law when they know how the government penalize law breakers.
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May 07, 2020, 10:55:01 PM
I could bet with you guys, I am confident that the organization will cancel the season, they have to reason to continue this when the number of cases in the Philippines has been increasing consistently. As of now, the total number of cases already exceed 10,000, that's already alarming because despite of the measures the government has impose, we were not able to control the spread.
Indeed, the gap between the new cases over the recoveries is still far. That's why I'm not yet convinced that we are now flattening the curve. If you heard from the news, few areas in the Metro are now conducting a 1 week hard lockdown due to the increasing number of cases despite of the ECQ. Plus, mayors are discussing about the possible extension of the quarantine up to June 15.

See? There's no way for PBA to resume the games unless they've got a private island with appropriate facilities like UFC Grin.
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May 07, 2020, 10:20:55 PM
No problem as it's just an opinion based and like what you have said, I also agree that the government is more focus in avoiding the spread of this virus and they will do everything to prevent people to do gatherings, such acts will lessen the possibilities of spreading the virus. We should wait for now and see how the organization will decide about this situation.

I could bet with you guys, I am confident that the organization will cancel the season, they have to reason to continue this when the number of cases in the Philippines has been increasing consistently. As of now, the total number of cases already exceed 10,000, that's already alarming because despite of the measures the government has impose, we were not able to control the spread.
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May 07, 2020, 09:29:49 PM
It can consider but likewise PBA association will check and balance everything before deciding, it's hard to decide since even they'll try to work out outside Manila chances that it won't get enough profits are still there. We all know that each sides of the country are affected of this lockdown and after the lift entertainment will not be prioritize.

The possibility of this happening is very low, sorry but that's my opinion, transforming the players puts them in a lot of risk already and they are not essential people at this time so they can't find an exemption to this. It's been stated int the post above that business that will require gathering of people will be suspended under the GCQ, so that's it, they are looking for an exemption and they need some approval but the government is more focus on more important things now.
No problem as it's just an opinion based and like what you have said, I also agree that the government is more focus in avoiding the spread of this virus and they will do everything to prevent people to do gatherings, such acts will lessen the possibilities of spreading the virus. We should wait for now and see how the organization will decide about this situation.
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May 07, 2020, 07:16:37 PM
What do you think, if PBA wants to resume, can they do it outside Manila instead? Although the income is likely to be lower than their average.

If they will do it outside Manila, I can't think of a City that would be suitable  for the NBA, and that is going to be too expensive since they will also have to find a place to stay, they will bring their family and these players will also have to train or practice.

That being expensive is already given, only if they want to push it.

Plus, since they will not occupy Smart Araneta or MOA or any common event place here, they can use funds allocated here to rent other venues.

What do you think, if PBA wants to resume, can they do it outside Manila instead? Although the income is likely to be lower than their average.
It can consider but likewise PBA association will check and balance everything before deciding, it's hard to decide since even they'll try to work out outside Manila chances that it won't get enough profits are still there. We all know that each sides of the country are affected of this lockdown and after the lift entertainment will not be prioritize.

And even with the vaccine being available now, no one will dare to go to mass gather for now.

Well, that option of holding PBA outside Manila isn't just about gatherings. They can do it without the audience only if they are eager to push it despite no profit.

But since PBA is business, then they must not be thinking of resuming PBA this year. Wait for next year instead. During the healthy times, they can't able to sold tickets even at Finals unless the team will play is Ginebra so if ever we get back to new normal after, expect that their ticket sales will be much worst.
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