2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 657.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 29, 2019, 02:23:42 AM

Quote from: Botnake on September 29, 2019, 01:28:38 AM

2nd game SMB -13.5, well I guess that's a decent line given how the alaska played lately.

I think this is a risky bet, we know that SMB has been dominating lately but this is PBA where we don't see a lot of big margin happening or based on its trend. Based on my observation, there are of times that great teams cannot cover the spread and even if a certain team is in lead with double digit, its not guaranteed that they will win and cover.

Just like last night, when Phoenix was already in the lead at more than 20 points but gins rally and bring the game in a single digit game, that's an example that not team can really dominate consistently.

But SMB managed to win with 26 points deficit, Alaska is not showing greatly after Coach Jeff takeover, there's a lot of loopholes that's needed to resolve. Adjustment period might be happening right now from the entire franchise while with SMB, this team is showing more dominance with how all the players rotates and bring a good outcome, still hungry for winning another title.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 29, 2019, 05:46:26 AM

I believe we have a lot of gamblers in the forum who loves Philippines Basketball particularly PBA, that's why I'm bringing this outside the local.

SMB vs TNT - TNT lead the series at 2-1

What do you think about this series, which team is good to bet?

Just when it comes to PBA issues especially the Semi-finals and Championship Games, there is an increasing number of spinning ending called to us and to which betting team who will win, and I have been a fan of Beermen for decades. Samboy Lim, Fernandez and others are still playing Norman Black.

@mirakal - how about updating or editing the original post? Like a simple "2019 Governor's Cup betting and discussion" for new readers to have an idea what is being talked about now. Clearly, some did not even bother to check the whole thread.

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Quote from: Malsetid on September 29, 2019, 03:50:01 AM

Lol. Allowing a team to take a 20+ lead just so you can try to stage a comeback is never a good idea. They were outplayed. It's not about never say die attitude. That stigma is slowly fading from this Ginebra team. Their fans are still thinking of the robert jaworski era and the 90s team of david, aquino, hizon and company. A lot of teams now have done the same thing the current ginebra team is doing.

Ginebra were a bad team before Tim Cone took over, slowly they improve but like any good team, there are still time that they will lose and the fact that they come back and almost take the game to OT, I think that's a good attitude.

I still think they have the best import with them, but they should not fully rely on the import, Ginebra is not a good 3 point shooting team while other teams have already improve like TNT and NLEX, they should sign a good 3 point shooting player or develop their own.

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Quote from: Botnake on September 29, 2019, 01:28:38 AM

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Quote from: Botnake on September 28, 2019, 07:25:48 AM

What happen to the Ginebra San Miguel? They are down in the first quarter, its 41-24 Phoenix leading the game.
Is there any chance that they will come back and win this game?

What a nearmiss!! I thought Tenorio's 3 point shot on the last 2 min. mark can change their fate but it's not. Well, at least thy abe to minimize the lead of Phoenix from double digit to few points. However, it was not enough! I can see the frustration on Tim Cone's face during their game and while going to the dugout.

Going on Ginebra's last play, for me Anton del Rosario did a great plan and it was well executed too. What I think happened is just that Brownlee made an error which is understandabe tho because of the long range from the ring. That's really a tough shot.

Who would thought that this game will almost go to OT, that was a nice game, Ginebra showed their character of a NSD or never say die.
Moving on to games today, I think I will go with the underdog in the first game and will go with SMB in the 2nd game.

Blackwater is +6.5 now against NLEX, I will go with the moneyline, the winning streak will end today.
2nd game SMB -13.5, well I guess that's a decent line given how the alaska played lately.

Lol. Allowing a team to take a 20+ lead just so you can try to stage a comeback is never a good idea. They were outplayed. It's not about never say die attitude. That stigma is slowly fading from this Ginebra team. Their fans are still thinking of the robert jaworski era and the 90s team of david, aquino, hizon and company. A lot of teams now have done the same thing the current ginebra team is doing.

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Quote from: Botnake on September 29, 2019, 01:28:38 AM

2nd game SMB -13.5, well I guess that's a decent line given how the alaska played lately.

I think this is a risky bet, we know that SMB has been dominating lately but this is PBA where we don't see a lot of big margin happening or based on its trend. Based on my observation, there are of times that great teams cannot cover the spread and even if a certain team is in lead with double digit, its not guaranteed that they will win and cover.

Just like last night, when Phoenix was already in the lead at more than 20 points but gins rally and bring the game in a single digit game, that's an example that not team can really dominate consistently.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on September 28, 2019, 10:16:23 AM

Quote from: Botnake on September 28, 2019, 07:25:48 AM

What happen to the Ginebra San Miguel? They are down in the first quarter, its 41-24 Phoenix leading the game.
Is there any chance that they will come back and win this game?

What a nearmiss!! I thought Tenorio's 3 point shot on the last 2 min. mark can change their fate but it's not. Well, at least thy abe to minimize the lead of Phoenix from double digit to few points. However, it was not enough! I can see the frustration on Tim Cone's face during their game and while going to the dugout.

Going on Ginebra's last play, for me Anton del Rosario did a great plan and it was well executed too. What I think happened is just that Brownlee made an error which is understandabe tho because of the long range from the ring. That's really a tough shot.

Who would thought that this game will almost go to OT, that was a nice game, Ginebra showed their character of a NSD or never say die.
Moving on to games today, I think I will go with the underdog in the first game and will go with SMB in the 2nd game.

Blackwater is +6.5 now against NLEX, I will go with the moneyline, the winning streak will end today.
2nd game SMB -13.5, well I guess that's a decent line given how the alaska played lately.

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Quote from: joromz1226 on September 28, 2019, 10:44:35 PM

Quote from: mirakal on July 29, 2019, 05:46:26 AM

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Just when it comes to PBA issues especially the Semi-finals and Championship Games, there is an increasing number of spinning ending called to us and to which betting team who will win, and I have been a fan of Beermen for decades. Samboy Lim, Fernandez and others are still playing Norman Black.

Mate it seem you're a little bit late on the recent happenings in PBA huh Grin

. I would like to inform you, just in case you are not aware, that Governor's Cup is already on going so I don't see any reason for you to bring this up. Anyway, have a good day you and I hope you keep yourself updated on the latest news inside or outside the crypto sphere

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Quote from: mirakal on July 29, 2019, 05:46:26 AM

I believe we have a lot of gamblers in the forum who loves Philippines Basketball particularly PBA, that's why I'm bringing this outside the local.

SMB vs TNT - TNT lead the series at 2-1

What do you think about this series, which team is good to bet?

Just when it comes to PBA issues especially the Semi-finals and Championship Games, there is an increasing number of spinning ending called to us and to which betting team who will win, and I have been a fan of Beermen for decades. Samboy Lim, Fernandez and others are still playing Norman Black.

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Quote from: Botnake on September 28, 2019, 07:25:48 AM

What happen to the Ginebra San Miguel? They are down in the first quarter, its 41-24 Phoenix leading the game.
Is there any chance that they will come back and win this game?

What a nearmiss!! I thought Tenorio's 3 point shot on the last 2 min. mark can change their fate but it's not. Well, at least thy abe to minimize the lead of Phoenix from double digit to few points. However, it was not enough! I can see the frustration on Tim Cone's face during their game and while going to the dugout.

Going on Ginebra's last play, for me Anton del Rosario did a great plan and it was well executed too. What I think happened is just that Brownlee made an error which is understandabe tho because of the long range from the ring. That's really a tough shot.

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What happen to the Ginebra San Miguel? They are down in the first quarter, its 41-24 Phoenix leading the game.
Is there any chance that they will come back and win this game?

What do you think, taking them ML in live betting is a good idea?
They are only 3.35 now ML, I think its not worth it.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 08:20:13 AM

Quote from: Viscore on September 27, 2019, 07:03:51 AM

2nd game, Im going with the hotshots here although I have to take the -5.5 to get 2.00 odds, they lost their first game and they are the defending champion, I think they will bounce back stronger now and will win this game with double digit.

Good luck to me... Grin

Nice pick you got there, -5.5 is like a sure win now.
Northport lead in the first quarter but they only manage to score 8 points in the 2nd quarter while the hotshots scored 37 points.
This kind of team will not take it easy even in the 2nd half so I expect they will win 20+ points in his game.

The Hotshots won 96-80, if you bet live on that game there are that market of +20 for North Port which is very tempting to take (which i did) because every team won't allow a big margin because it might lead to complications in case of a triple tie. Fortunately for me my gamble paid off as the Hotshots lead only by 16.

Todays game is between the TNT Katropa and Rain or Shine, though Rain or Shine is very underdog here but still i will go for them but with a handicap, Rain or Shine +7.5 2.05 odds. Good luck to us...

Meanwhile here is an article from my favorite bisdak sports writer based in Chicago.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/after-marcial-lifeline-it-s-abueva-s-turn-to-prove-he-deserves-second-chance-a2244-20190926?ref=feed_1_section

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Quote from: asu on September 27, 2019, 06:04:43 AM

I have this question in my mind. Do calvin abueva regret everything he has done for? like it went start to his wife in calvin abueva instagram hurting his wife. Then, occasionally lots of bad news and bad actions came from calvin.

It’s kinda hurtful, lot’s of regretful (for me) what he did.

It's kind of regretful but as he is now, he has made his decisions and that's what make him what he is now. But as far as his sanctions from his recent actions, I think it's better to give this man a chance. I mean the sanction is too much since he is just retaliating what Jones has done to him.

If we talks for fairly judgement from what PBA commissioners cup given the suspension for calvin abueva. I agreed that its better to give calvin a chance to get play again in PBA. He got a suspension where the PBA commissioners cup says “ A definitely suspension” means like applying a job, where they will said at the end of your interview to call you later... knowing that there is no set of date for your being suspended where its either no chance for calvin to play again or there is.

I like to correct you a bit, it's actually called "indefinite suspension" where there is no given date on which he will be allowed to play again.
A player can also make his indefinite leave but that is his discretion, this penalty that was imposed to him is a management will, meaning they are the only one who knows when this will end. Actually its better to get suspended with definite time so you know when you will return and you can prepare for it.

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Aside from the indefinite suspension, Abueva has also been fined P50,000 for the flagrant foul penalty 2 on Terrence Jones, and P20,000 for engaging with a fan in a verbal altercation

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/basketball/pba/232276-calvin-abueva-suspended-indefinitely

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 27, 2019, 06:35:19 AM

Quote from: asu on September 27, 2019, 06:04:43 AM

I have this question in my mind. Do calvin abueva regret everything he has done for? like it went start to his wife in calvin abueva instagram hurting his wife. Then, occasionally lots of bad news and bad actions came from calvin.

It’s kinda hurtful, lot’s of regretful (for me) what he did.

It's kind of regretful but as he is now, he has made his decisions and that's what make him what he is now. But as far as his sanctions from his recent actions, I think it's better to give this man a chance. I mean the sanction is too much since he is just retaliating what Jones has done to him.

If we talks for fairly judgement from what PBA commissioners cup given the suspension for calvin abueva. I agreed that its better to give calvin a chance to get play again in PBA. He got a suspension where the PBA commissioners cup says “ A definitely suspension” means like applying a job, where they will said at the end of your interview to call you later... knowing that there is no set of date for your being suspended where its either no chance for calvin to play again or there is.

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Quote from: Viscore on September 27, 2019, 07:03:51 AM

2nd game, Im going with the hotshots here although I have to take the -5.5 to get 2.00 odds, they lost their first game and they are the defending champion, I think they will bounce back stronger now and will win this game with double digit.

Good luck to me... Grin

Nice pick you got there, -5.5 is like a sure win now.
Northport lead in the first quarter but they only manage to score 8 points in the 2nd quarter while the hotshots scored 37 points.
This kind of team will not take it easy even in the 2nd half so I expect they will win 20+ points in his game.

You are right, they bounce back stronger.

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Quote from: Malsetid on September 27, 2019, 07:30:25 AM

It almost felt like yeng guiao was just preparing keifer for the pba season during the fiba world cup lol.

But that preparation has cost the team since we never have a single win during the FIBA world cup, yeng being the head coach was being bias and get his man who was not active in the PBA that time, if they would have get Terrence Romeo, its gonna be a more improve Gilas 2.0 which is not really an upgrade. Tongue

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 06:42:43 AM

Quote from: harizen on September 26, 2019, 06:54:13 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 26, 2019, 05:59:59 PM

We have 2 games for today, let's analyze the line early so we can get a good value here.

NLEX vs Meralco Both. Favorites here is the Meralco bolts at -4.5, but I'm not betting my money on them, I like the NLEX here, they also have a good import and Ravena is back, so they might be a different team in this conference.

I'm with NLEX over Bolts in terms of overall lineup firepower but just a bit especially that Kiefer is back, however, let's not forget what Meralco did to the current defending champion Magnolia Hotshots during their opener. I will not take the reason that it's just a first game why the defending champ loss.

Talking about the lines, I can't comment much about the score spread since we have only a few references since the conference just start. But if we take a look at those only single game as a reference, Meralco's -4.5 seems to be the closest thing that can happen, "at least". Don't want to take NLEX past game as a reference because that game is more of a deciding game since Phoenix is not performing well, as always.

I'd rather skip the handicap but instead go for ML on this match.

Winner, you predicted it right, NLEX were in double digit lead in the 3rd quarter and Bolts are trying to make a run but they fell short as they committed a lot of mistakes. With Ravena, they have a good start now at 2-0 and I really like the ball movement now, there's no hesitation and even the big man can shoot 3s.

Good for them. The exposure this kid got from his recent gilas stint proved to be a wise move for his current coach now. It almost felt like yeng guiao was just preparing keifer for the pba season during the fiba world cup lol. It's just the start of the season and 2-0 is nothing in conference like this. Let's see how long cyg can keep this up.

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2nd game, Im going with the hotshots here although I have to take the -5.5 to get 2.00 odds, they lost their first game and they are the defending champion, I think they will bounce back stronger now and will win this game with double digit.

Good luck to me... Grin

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Quote from: harizen on September 26, 2019, 06:54:13 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 26, 2019, 05:59:59 PM

We have 2 games for today, let's analyze the line early so we can get a good value here.

NLEX vs Meralco Both. Favorites here is the Meralco bolts at -4.5, but I'm not betting my money on them, I like the NLEX here, they also have a good import and Ravena is back, so they might be a different team in this conference.

I'm with NLEX over Bolts in terms of overall lineup firepower but just a bit especially that Kiefer is back, however, let's not forget what Meralco did to the current defending champion Magnolia Hotshots during their opener. I will not take the reason that it's just a first game why the defending champ loss.

Talking about the lines, I can't comment much about the score spread since we have only a few references since the conference just start. But if we take a look at those only single game as a reference, Meralco's -4.5 seems to be the closest thing that can happen, "at least". Don't want to take NLEX past game as a reference because that game is more of a deciding game since Phoenix is not performing well, as always.

I'd rather skip the handicap but instead go for ML on this match.

Winner, you predicted it right, NLEX were in double digit lead in the 3rd quarter and Bolts are trying to make a run but they fell short as they committed a lot of mistakes. With Ravena, they have a good start now at 2-0 and I really like the ball movement now, there's no hesitation and even the big man can shoot 3s.

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Quote from: asu on September 27, 2019, 06:04:43 AM

I have this question in my mind. Do calvin abueva regret everything he has done for? like it went start to his wife in calvin abueva instagram hurting his wife. Then, occasionally lots of bad news and bad actions came from calvin.

It’s kinda hurtful, lot’s of regretful (for me) what he did.

It's kind of regretful but as he is now, he has made his decisions and that's what make him what he is now. But as far as his sanctions from his recent actions, I think it's better to give this man a chance. I mean the sanction is too much since he is just retaliating what Jones has done to him.

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I have this question in my mind. Do calvin abueva regret everything he has done for? like it went start to his wife in calvin abueva instagram hurting his wife. Then, occasionally lots of bad news and bad actions came from calvin.

It’s kinda hurtful, lot’s of regretful (for me) what he did.

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