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Quote from: mirakal on September 27, 2019, 04:56:18 AM

But they allowed him to join their practice, with this kind action, they are showing signs that they are not getting rid of abueva and they even have no plans of trading him. If import like Renaldo Balkman that was ban in the NBA for a years were given a chance to come back and play with the SMB in the previous season, I think the PBA management could give a little consideration to our own, and IIRC Renaldo Balkman ban was permanent ban but was lifted by the organization.

Out of good gesture, maybe that's the reason why the commissioner allowed Calvin to joined the team for practice. With so many controversies involving Calvin i think this time the commissioner will prolong his suspension to the point where he would beg for pardon and apologizes for what he have done (Calvin seems to me is unapologetic) in order to get back to the PBA. The PBA had already given him a lot of chances, i remembered that he vanished for weeks/months without notice when he is still with Alaska.

GAB 's eyes are on him, maybe one or a couple of controversy involving him, we could see an exit of Calvin in the PBA, hope it won't happen.

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GAB chief threatens to 'permanently revoke' Calvin Abueva license

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I think this one is reliable, so we can celebrate early.

There is nothing to celebrate yet. The PBA Commissioner was kind enough that he granted Calvin to practice upon his request because he is getting out of shape. It's no where near an approal that he will be allowed to play again. Maybe in the next conference Cheesy

I'm quoting this from another article posted earlier https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/27703991/abueva-returns-practice-phoenix

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Though PBA commissioner Willie Marcial approved Abueva's request to return to practice, Abueva doesn't expect to return to the court any time soon.

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He told me, 'Commissioner, I'm gaining weight. Maybe you could allow me.' I said sure, he can practice but he can't play in any tune-ups or anything. Just practice. Get in condition," Marcial said. "But him being allowed to practice doesn't mean he's allowed to come back. This is still going to be a long discussion.

Lol, Calvin Abueva's return to the PBA will take a long time if ever he will return and let's hope that the Games and Amusement Board won't get in the way after that news involving Calvin beating his wife. That is a very serious accusation that could make Calvin be ban forever in the PBA.

Phoenix Fuel Master must forget now that they have Calvin Abueva and learn to live without him, he might be a important piece on their team but he is also a liability because of his volatile attitude.

But they allowed him to join their practice, with this kind action, they are showing signs that they are not getting rid of abueva and they even have no plans of trading him. If import like Renaldo Balkman that was ban in the NBA for a years were given a chance to come back and play with the SMB in the previous season, I think the PBA management could give a little consideration to our own, and IIRC Renaldo Balkman ban was permanent ban but was lifted by the organization.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 27, 2019, 02:27:49 AM

Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 02:00:42 AM

I think this one is reliable, so we can celebrate early.

There is nothing to celebrate yet. The PBA Commissioner was kind enough that he granted Calvin to practice upon his request because he is getting out of shape. It's no where near an approal that he will be allowed to play again. Maybe in the next conference Cheesy

I'm quoting this from another article posted earlier https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/27703991/abueva-returns-practice-phoenix

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Though PBA commissioner Willie Marcial approved Abueva's request to return to practice, Abueva doesn't expect to return to the court any time soon.

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He told me, 'Commissioner, I'm gaining weight. Maybe you could allow me.' I said sure, he can practice but he can't play in any tune-ups or anything. Just practice. Get in condition," Marcial said. "But him being allowed to practice doesn't mean he's allowed to come back. This is still going to be a long discussion.

Lol, Calvin Abueva's return to the PBA will take a long time if ever he will return and let's hope that the Games and Amusement Board won't get in the way after that news involving Calvin beating his wife. That is a very serious accusation that could make Calvin be ban forever in the PBA.

Phoenix Fuel Master must forget now that they have Calvin Abueva and learn to live without him, he might be a important piece on their team but he is also a liability because of his volatile attitude.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 27, 2019, 02:27:49 AM

Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 02:00:42 AM

I think this one is reliable, so we can celebrate early.

There is nothing to celebrate yet. The PBA Commissioner was kind enough that he granted Calvin to practice upon his request because he is getting out of shape. It's no where near an approal that he will be allowed to play again. Maybe in the next conference Cheesy

I'm quoting this from another article posted earlier https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/27703991/abueva-returns-practice-phoenix

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Though PBA commissioner Willie Marcial approved Abueva's request to return to practice, Abueva doesn't expect to return to the court any time soon.

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He told me, 'Commissioner, I'm gaining weight. Maybe you could allow me.' I said sure, he can practice but he can't play in any tune-ups or anything. Just practice. Get in condition," Marcial said. "But him being allowed to practice doesn't mean he's allowed to come back. This is still going to be a long discussion.

At least there's some improvement, if he continue to show some changes of his attitude, he might be able to play again.
He is not expecting that he will return soon but the commissioner is just observing him, they are in a business and fans would always want to see the "beast" in the court so for sure they will allow him to play soon, it's been too long of waiting already.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 02:00:42 AM

I think this one is reliable, so we can celebrate early.

There is nothing to celebrate yet. The PBA Commissioner was kind enough that he granted Calvin to practice upon his request because he is getting out of shape. It's no where near an approal that he will be allowed to play again. Maybe in the next conference Cheesy

I'm quoting this from another article posted earlier https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/27703991/abueva-returns-practice-phoenix

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Though PBA commissioner Willie Marcial approved Abueva's request to return to practice, Abueva doesn't expect to return to the court any time soon.

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He told me, 'Commissioner, I'm gaining weight. Maybe you could allow me.' I said sure, he can practice but he can't play in any tune-ups or anything. Just practice. Get in condition," Marcial said. "But him being allowed to practice doesn't mean he's allowed to come back. This is still going to be a long discussion.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 02:00:42 AM

I know you all miss Calvin Abueva, it looks like he will be back soon as he is already allowed to join the practice with his team.
We have some article here, I think this one is reliable, so we can celebrate early.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/09/25/19/pba-calvin-abueva-maaari-nang-mag-practice-kasama-ang-phoenix

That's a good news, so its expected that he will back again this conference, I wonder who's import he will hit again, lol..just kidding.
Anyway, with the way his team perform, it seems like they lack some good energy and that is the masterpiece of Calvin, so his team badly needed him.

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I know you all miss Calvin Abueva, it looks like he will be back soon as he is already allowed to join the practice with his team.
We have some article here, I think this one is reliable, so we can celebrate early.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/09/25/19/pba-calvin-abueva-maaari-nang-mag-practice-kasama-ang-phoenix

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Accidentally reads this article. Thoughts about Calvin abueva “the beast” for he’s suspension? I remember that I asked here if Abueva would be allowed to play in PBA.

He totally deserves the indefinite suspension imo. A heavy penalty for the "revenge" on Jones would have been enough if only he did not took it too far with the dancing. It wasn't also the first time he was involved with incidents on the court and that definitely pushed the hands of PBA management.

Sad to say but with his attitude regarding to this things in need for the commissioner to take actions. Being part of this professional league needs him to showcase not only his basketball skill but also a good manners to set example for the youth and fans who idolizing him. There's still no clarity with his condition to play still on the process whether his former team will keep him or another franchise to buy him up.

That is Calvin Abueva, he is a bad boy on and off the floor so he suffer the consequences of his action now.
Though I like to see him play again as I'm pretty sure he will be a big help for his team but we can't do anything, the management have decided to still put him in indefinite suspension, we don't know how long it will last but I'm sure this is a serious punishment that might lead to their player eventually be out in the league.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 26, 2019, 11:57:56 PM

Quote from: asu on September 26, 2019, 11:35:49 PM

Accidentally reads this article. Thoughts about Calvin abueva “the beast” for he’s suspension? I remember that I asked here if Abueva would be allowed to play in PBA.

He totally deserves the indefinite suspension imo. A heavy penalty for the "revenge" on Jones would have been enough if only he did not took it too far with the dancing. It wasn't also the first time he was involved with incidents on the court and that definitely pushed the hands of PBA management.

Sad to say but with his attitude regarding to this things in need for the commissioner to take actions. Being part of this professional league needs him to showcase not only his basketball skill but also a good manners to set example for the youth and fans who idolizing him. There's still no clarity with his condition to play still on the process whether his former team will keep him or another franchise to buy him up.

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This PBA Governors' Cup 2019 is exciting, I would like to see more on rosters of every team especially those high tier teams like SAN MIGUEL BEERMAN and BRGY. GINEBRA.
I would still love to see more changes on the roster especially on each import player of the respective team.

About on the Calvin Abueva case, he is really out of his mind, still impossible that he can play on this commissioner. Maybe there are no more team that want to take Calvin Abueva ? Because before on the issue about Terrence Jones, the reason also why he is suspended, his even own teammates feel bad to him when he committed those actions against Terrence Jones.

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Quote from: asu on September 26, 2019, 11:35:49 PM

Accidentally reads this article. Thoughts about Calvin abueva “the beast” for he’s suspension? I remember that I asked here if Abueva would be allowed to play in PBA.

He totally deserves the indefinite suspension imo. A heavy penalty for the "revenge" on Jones would have been enough if only he did not took it too far with the dancing. It wasn't also the first time he was involved with incidents on the court and that definitely pushed the hands of PBA management.

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Accidentally reads this article. Thoughts about Calvin abueva “the beast” for he’s suspension? I remember that I asked here if Abueva would be allowed to play in PBA.

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Calvin Abueva practices with Phoenix for first time since suspension

Abueva said he wants to turn over a new leaf if he is allowed to return to the active roster. The enigmatic forward said his run-in with Jones at the Ynares Center in Antipolo is always on his mind.

"How to avoid the same incident and to improve myself from being branded as a dirty player," Abueva told reporters in Filipino Thursday afternoon. "What people saw then in me inside as a player, I aim to change that, show it for the better."

Though PBA commissioner Willie Marcial approved Abueva's request to return to practice, Abueva doesn't expect to return to the court any time soon.

Read more here: https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/27703991/abueva-returns-practice-phoenix

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NLEX @ +3.5
MERALCO @ -4.5

These are confusing as both teams can surely cover this. This teams can be seen as equal. And agree above, only few references available.

And with these confusions, will also do the same to skip handicap but put a shot on Moneyline or maybe Overall Points if available.

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Quote from: harizen on September 26, 2019, 06:54:13 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 26, 2019, 05:59:59 PM

We have 2 games for today, let's analyze the line early so we can get a good value here.

NLEX vs Meralco Both. Favorites here is the Meralco bolts at -4.5, but I'm not betting my money on them, I like the NLEX here, they also have a good import and Ravena is back, so they might be a different team in this conference.

I'm with NLEX over Bolts in terms of overall lineup firepower but just a bit especially that Kiefer is back, however, let's not forget what Meralco did to the current defending champion Magnolia Hotshots during their opener. I will not take the reason that it's just a first game why the defending champ loss.

Talking about the lines, I can't comment much about the score spread since we have only a few references since the conference just start. But if we take a look at those only single game as a reference, Meralco's -4.5 seems to be the closest thing that can happen, "at least". Don't want to take NLEX past game as a reference because that game is more of a deciding game since Phoenix is not performing well, as always.

I'd rather skip the handicap but instead go for ML on this match.

This is gonna be a great match, an offensive team vs a defensive team.
And.... suddenly the line changes, NLEX already now at +3.5 only, @Japinat might be lucky to get a good value if he bet right after he post in this thread.

NLEX moneyline at 2.36 and 2.50 with price boost, I think this is a good odds already.
Good luck, I'm also with the NLEX moneyline, I'm tailing your pick @harizen.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 26, 2019, 05:59:59 PM

We have 2 games for today, let's analyze the line early so we can get a good value here.

NLEX vs Meralco Both. Favorites here is the Meralco bolts at -4.5, but I'm not betting my money on them, I like the NLEX here, they also have a good import and Ravena is back, so they might be a different team in this conference.

I'm with NLEX over Bolts in terms of overall lineup firepower but just a bit especially that Kiefer is back, however, let's not forget what Meralco did to the current defending champion Magnolia Hotshots during their opener. I will not take the reason that it's just a first game why the defending champ loss.

Talking about the lines, I can't comment much about the score spread since we have only a few references since the conference just start. But if we take a look at those only single game as a reference, Meralco's -4.5 seems to be the closest thing that can happen, "at least". Don't want to take NLEX past game as a reference because that game is more of a deciding game since Phoenix is not performing well, as always.

I'd rather skip the handicap but instead go for ML on this match.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 26, 2019, 05:59:59 PM

We have 2 games for today, let's analyze the line early so we can get a good value here.

NLEX vs Meralco Both. Favorites here is the Meralco bolts at -4.5, but I'm not betting my money on them, I like the NLEX here, they also have a good import and Ravena is back, so they might be a different team in this conference.

NLEX and MERALCO bolts have an own different strategies how to get success their mission and I understand with you everyone have an favorite teams and have an freedom to choose what team they want to support but is only one mission for all team is to get the victory into the finals.

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We have 2 games for today, let's analyze the line early so we can get a good value here.

NLEX vs Meralco Both. Favorites here is the Meralco bolts at -4.5, but I'm not betting my money on them, I like the NLEX here, they also have a good import and Ravena is back, so they might be a different team in this conference.

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First game was not an exciting game, TNT dominated the Blackwater by winning in a score of 135-107, I won my over but I loss that parlay as I choose blackwater to win in the first game. Moving on to the last game of the night, both are good import, SMB vs Phoenix, I think I'll go with the Phoenix here, moneyline and point spread, and betting also on the over as that is the trend so far.

So far, SMB is dominating the game with their import doing the job done. Up by 15 most of the time and hopefully they will not choke at the end.

SMB Beermen is a team on a mission this conference so we can expect them to give their all every game but i have a doubt on their import's attitude but still early to say, let see on the coming days maybe he will change.

Every team is on a mission, it just happen that SMB is the best team in the PBA so we have noticed them more.
I like to see the SMB battling the more improve Ginebra, and I think these new good imports from SMB and TNT are good to watch if they play against Brownlee and I think Brownlee will be having a hard time to score against these imports and I doubt he will win the import of the conference award, I almost forgot, we still have Durham which is a good all around import.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 25, 2019, 08:20:58 AM

Quote from: mirakal on September 25, 2019, 06:39:12 AM

First game was not an exciting game, TNT dominated the Blackwater by winning in a score of 135-107, I won my over but I loss that parlay as I choose blackwater to win in the first game. Moving on to the last game of the night, both are good import, SMB vs Phoenix, I think I'll go with the Phoenix here, moneyline and point spread, and betting also on the over as that is the trend so far.

So far, SMB is dominating the game with their import doing the job done. Up by 15 most of the time and hopefully they will not choke at the end.

SMB Beermen is a team on a mission this conference so we can expect them to give their all every game but i have a doubt on their import's attitude but still early to say, let see on the coming days maybe he will change.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 25, 2019, 08:20:58 AM

Quote from: mirakal on September 25, 2019, 06:39:12 AM

First game was not an exciting game, TNT dominated the Blackwater by winning in a score of 135-107, I won my over but I loss that parlay as I choose blackwater to win in the first game. Moving on to the last game of the night, both are good import, SMB vs Phoenix, I think I'll go with the Phoenix here, moneyline and point spread, and betting also on the over as that is the trend so far.

So far, SMB is dominating the game with their import doing the job done. Up by 15 most of the time and hopefully they will not choke at the end.

SMB won the game with 11 points lead. The impressive teamwork still upfront defeating the Phoenix fuel master. Even there's some good run at the fourth quarter, SMB still showed the supremacy dictating the outcome of the ball game. The presence of Fajardo and Cabagnot together with Wells are impressive, they did execute the game really well.

After that terrific 12 league that they've been, this team has become more solid, both from offense and defense. Nice to see everything works well, and there's a lot more to expect from SMB.

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