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February 14, 2024, 07:52:19 AM
Seems to have a good basis, though if Magnolia manage to win game 6 SMB will be in trouble, they might know that and they might push game 6 and try all their best to win the game.
Right now, they are in a 50-50 chance although SMB is taking the lead in the series. A win by Magnolia in game 6 will not change the status of their match up in game 7. In fact, I believe the series will be more interesting since it has a game 7 and people will be watching, i think the right bet IMO is Magnoli with the spread because if it's going to be a close game, Magnolia might be able to cover the spread.

I guess if following the trend placing your bet for magnolia with a handicap might be possible as they already knew what to do its just so happened that the shooters of SMB got their shots fallen but if those shots did not surely Magnolia might take that game 5, its more on how good you are in taking the risk, we are seeing good competition even its a sister companies that competing for the title, both are hungry and really wanting to win.
They are a sister team, sure they can manipulate the outcome of the game by telling their players to "slow down". I guess I'm not betting now, will be watching it first and try to feel where's the rig favors, then I'll just do a live betting with a very attractive odds and line. Both teams are healthy, it just have to go down on what the league would want to happen, but I'm with "YES TO GAME 7".
It's been Magnolia so far, let's see if things will change in the 2nd half as the 3rd quarter has just started. By the looks of it, it seems like there's a game 7 as SMB hasn't been dominating the game unlike what happen in game 5. The 3 point shooting is still there but Cruz is not as hot as he was last game.

The ball movement of Magnolia is really impressive, they don't usually take 3 point attempts but they'll make sure they get some points inside despite JMF is there to block the shots, they just do some good passing of the ball to confuse JMF.
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February 13, 2024, 10:12:07 PM
Seems to have a good basis, though if Magnolia manage to win game 6 SMB will be in trouble, they might know that and they might push game 6 and try all their best to win the game.
Right now, they are in a 50-50 chance although SMB is taking the lead in the series. A win by Magnolia in game 6 will not change the status of their match up in game 7. In fact, I believe the series will be more interesting since it has a game 7 and people will be watching, i think the right bet IMO is Magnoli with the spread because if it's going to be a close game, Magnolia might be able to cover the spread.

I guess if following the trend placing your bet for magnolia with a handicap might be possible as they already knew what to do its just so happened that the shooters of SMB got their shots fallen but if those shots did not surely Magnolia might take that game 5, its more on how good you are in taking the risk, we are seeing good competition even its a sister companies that competing for the title, both are hungry and really wanting to win.
They are a sister team, sure they can manipulate the outcome of the game by telling their players to "slow down". I guess I'm not betting now, will be watching it first and try to feel where's the rig favors, then I'll just do a live betting with a very attractive odds and line. Both teams are healthy, it just have to go down on what the league would want to happen, but I'm with "YES TO GAME 7".
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February 13, 2024, 01:06:50 PM
Seems to have a good basis, though if Magnolia manage to win game 6 SMB will be in trouble, they might know that and they might push game 6 and try all their best to win the game.
Right now, they are in a 50-50 chance although SMB is taking the lead in the series. A win by Magnolia in game 6 will not change the status of their match up in game 7. In fact, I believe the series will be more interesting since it has a game 7 and people will be watching, i think the right bet IMO is Magnoli with the spread because if it's going to be a close game, Magnolia might be able to cover the spread.

I guess if following the trend placing your bet for magnolia with a handicap might be possible as they already knew what to do its just so happened that the shooters of SMB got their shots fallen but if those shots did not surely Magnolia might take that game 5, its more on how good you are in taking the risk, we are seeing good competition even its a sister companies that competing for the title, both are hungry and really wanting to win.
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February 13, 2024, 09:24:54 AM
Just a quick update on the line tomorrow. We can already see the full market of the game. I notice something strange, it seems like the line is moving on the favor of Magnolia, from +3.5 now at +2.5, probably people are believing that they'll take game 6 and we will see a game 7.
Sounds trappy  Grin lol

I guess I'm not pulling the trigger yet, we still have plenty of time, I'll be observing the line movement before I will make a conclusion. I'm reading all your replies guys, I liked the conspiracy theory you brought out, if Magnolia wins, that will prove it but bisdak could be right too because SMB relied so much on their outside shooting despite they are having the advantage inside, if they miss a lot, this will be Magnolia's night.


As to the total, it's now at 189.5, quite similar to the line in the previous game.


Total hasn't change yet, it's a 50/50 bet, but if you are smart enough, you'll take the under as it could be the last game, and you know how Magnolia play, they are too physical. Given they have a good break, they'll have fresh legs when in game 6.

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I haven't seen an OT in this game, maybe let's try to consider betting on OT as well with the following odds.

SMB/DRAW x18
MAGNOLIA/DRAW x19..

Interesting odds, this is worth a try. I'll pick one I guess, I like the x19 (bigger by 1) because I think Magnolia will start strong and SMB will try to catch up, and maybe might end up in OT.
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February 13, 2024, 08:21:07 AM
Just a quick update on the line tomorrow. We can already see the full market of the game. I notice something strange, it seems like the line is moving on the favor of Magnolia, from +3.5 now at +2.5, probably people are believing that they'll take game 6 and we will see a game 7.

As to the total, it's now at 189.5, quite similar to the line in the previous game.

I haven't seen an OT in this game, maybe let's try to consider betting on OT as well with the following odds.

SMB/DRAW x18
MAGNOLIA/DRAW x19..
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February 12, 2024, 09:45:47 AM
However, on the business side, it would be nice to have a game 7 since it could be played on Friday or Saturday where people could go to the Arena to watch the game.
I like this idea too. They could give the game 6 to Magnolia and let them play in game 7, may the best team wins.
Anyway, looking at the line, SMB still open at -3.5 favorite, the -1.5 spread is already gone which was the game 1 and game 2 spread.

Smart idea, I haven't thought of that as I was just riding on the winning team, of course that's SMB. It's great that you also look outside the box, business is business as they say, and with game 7, they could fill the arena and they'll make a lot of money. There were rumors that PBA has been struggling to attract audience, so I don't think they'll waste this opportunity to get a game 7 for the series.

When Magnolia is winning the total is below 188, so this one is probably an opportunity for bettors to take advantage of. Personally, I'm betting on the under 188 and I have a feeling that this might decrease, so taking it at this early should be done.
Nice analysis, let's follow the under for this game. Their lowest was 168, that was when Magnolia won the game, so 188 is just too high for this game.
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February 12, 2024, 09:28:27 AM
If SMB wins the total will be over. Next game is a do or die game for Magnolia, they will not allow it for SMB to abuse them in the 3 point area. I got a quick look on the total, it is 188 currently, I think, 2 points lower compared to the line in game 5.

When Magnolia is winning the total is below 188, so this one is probably an opportunity for bettors to take advantage of. Personally, I'm betting on the under 188 and I have a feeling that this might decrease, so taking it at this early should be done.
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February 12, 2024, 09:14:24 AM

Yes, It was a good game plan kicking the ball out and allow your shooters to take the shots, it's tough job for Magnolia to adjust as if they will leave him he can easily make a basket.

It was good because the shots were falling, but if not, SMB will struggle again and loss 3rd straight. Last time, Boatwright had a lot of attempts and his FG percentage was very low, they didn't let it happen this time as he was only limited, he let the locals do the scoring and he just grab some rebounds and defend Bey.

He is still very effective as he finished with 21 points but not forcing shots since he was 6-14.
On the starters of SMB, both Perez and Lassiter struggled with poor shooting, but good thing Cruz, Enciso and Trollana save them.

Like what I mentioned,  I love the way SMB adjusted after suffering a back to back losses with Magnolia they finally find the best way to counter their opponents, especially the import he knows that he got everyone to support him and with the way he show up and bring good defense to a fellow reinforcement  that's being paid after this win.

Cruz got a hot hands and take the player of the game award, and just like what he said , not done yet still game/games to play.

Magnolia is again on a position that put them on a do or die game starting in game 6. And based on statistics, a team that started with 2-0 in the Finals usually wins the series. Therefore, if we follow the trend and bet on SMB in game 6, in case they lose, they might still win game 7. Not sure what will happen in game 6 as Magnolia remained competitive in the game but SMB could not afford to extend this series, they should consider game 6 as the last game so they'll give everything they can.
Both teams are probably thinking it's their last game so they'll everything they can. It's a matter on how hungry a team will want to win in a championship, and Magnolia is hungrier for me as they have less championship wins compared to the SMB. However, it's hard to imagine that JMF will be losing in the Finals, last time I remember they loss is against Ginebra San Miguel who had a very exceptional import of JB, these two imports are good but JB is way better than them.

However, on the business side, it would be nice to have a game 7 since it could be played on Friday or Saturday where people could go to the Arena to watch the game.
I like this idea too. They could give the game 6 to Magnolia and let them play in game 7, may the best team wins.
Anyway, looking at the line, SMB still open at -3.5 favorite, the -1.5 spread is already gone which was the game 1 and game 2 spread.
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February 12, 2024, 08:48:24 AM

Yes, It was a good game plan kicking the ball out and allow your shooters to take the shots, it's tough job for Magnolia to adjust as if they will leave him he can easily make a basket.

It was good because the shots were falling, but if not, SMB will struggle again and loss 3rd straight. Last time, Boatwright had a lot of attempts and his FG percentage was very low, they didn't let it happen this time as he was only limited, he let the locals do the scoring and he just grab some rebounds and defend Bey.

He is still very effective as he finished with 21 points but not forcing shots since he was 6-14.
On the starters of SMB, both Perez and Lassiter struggled with poor shooting, but good thing Cruz, Enciso and Trollana save them.

Like what I mentioned,  I love the way SMB adjusted after suffering a back to back losses with Magnolia they finally find the best way to counter their opponents, especially the import he knows that he got everyone to support him and with the way he show up and bring good defense to a fellow reinforcement  that's being paid after this win.

Cruz got a hot hands and take the player of the game award, and just like what he said , not done yet still game/games to play.

Magnolia is again on a position that put them on a do or die game starting in game 6. And based on statistics, a team that started with 2-0 in the Finals usually wins the series. Therefore, if we follow the trend and bet on SMB in game 6, in case they lose, they might still win game 7. Not sure what will happen in game 6 as Magnolia remained competitive in the game but SMB could not afford to extend this series, they should consider game 6 as the last game so they'll give everything they can.

However, on the business side, it would be nice to have a game 7 since it could be played on Friday or Saturday where people could go to the Arena to watch the game.
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February 12, 2024, 08:07:33 AM
Seems to have a good basis, though if Magnolia manage to win game 6 SMB will be in trouble, they might know that and they might push game 6 and try all their best to win the game.
Right now, they are in a 50-50 chance although SMB is taking the lead in the series. A win by Magnolia in game 6 will not change the status of their match up in game 7. In fact, I believe the series will be more interesting since it has a game 7 and people will be watching, i think the right bet IMO is Magnoli with the spread because if it's going to be a close game, Magnolia might be able to cover the spread.
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February 12, 2024, 07:49:05 AM
Like what I mentioned,  I love the way SMB adjusted after suffering a back to back losses with Magnolia they finally find the best way to counter their opponents, especially the import he knows that he got everyone to support him and with the way he show up and bring good defense to a fellow reinforcement  that's being paid after this win.

Cruz got a hot hands and take the player of the game award, and just like what he said , not done yet still game/games to play.

Yeah, Jericho Cruz needs to duplicate his output in game 5 to close out the series in game 6. If not, they are in big trouble as Bennie Boatwright is struggling with his 3-point shooting here in the last three games.
If Jericho didn't shoot well, SMB might struggle because Boatwright was already lock down on offense, probably at least 50% was down based on his performance. Magnolia don't settle a lot on 3 point shooting, I like their style of playing as they seemed to be very aggressive and always go for a high percentage shot.

Luckily Cruz manage to hit that crucial three point shot, as Magnolia is knocking they manage to cut the lead to 4 points. Just like how Paul Lee sealed game 4, it was then Cruz sealed it the same way. In terms of game execution, Magnolia really playing smart, not forcing their shots and allow players to rotate before taking the shots, just so happen that SMB's outside shooting is falling that's why they manage to win the game.

After seeing the 5 games of the series, I am more inclined this time to bet on Magnolia to win the series because the Beermen seem to live and die on their shooting from the outside that seldom they go to their big man in Junemar Fajardo to create an opening for those wide open 3's.

I won game 5 as i bet for the Beermen but i think i'm going to bet for Magnolia ML this coming Wednesday.

This made me thinking about my bet in game 6 since I'm still believing that SMB will take the win and cover the spread. In terms of rebounding, there's no big disparity although SMB had the advantage. I think the turning factor here was really the good 3 point shooting of Cruz.

Seems to have a good basis, though if Magnolia manage to win game 6 SMB will be in trouble, they might know that and they might push game 6 and try all their best to win the game.
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February 12, 2024, 07:42:29 AM
Like what I mentioned,  I love the way SMB adjusted after suffering a back to back losses with Magnolia they finally find the best way to counter their opponents, especially the import he knows that he got everyone to support him and with the way he show up and bring good defense to a fellow reinforcement  that's being paid after this win.

Cruz got a hot hands and take the player of the game award, and just like what he said , not done yet still game/games to play.

Yeah, Jericho Cruz needs to duplicate his output in game 5 to close out the series in game 6. If not, they are in big trouble as Bennie Boatwright is struggling with his 3-point shooting here in the last three games.
If Jericho didn't shoot well, SMB might struggle because Boatwright was already lock down on offense, probably at least 50% was down based on his performance. Magnolia don't settle a lot on 3 point shooting, I like their style of playing as they seemed to be very aggressive and always go for a high percentage shot.

After seeing the 5 games of the series, I am more inclined this time to bet on Magnolia to win the series because the Beermen seem to live and die on their shooting from the outside that seldom they go to their big man in Junemar Fajardo to create an opening for those wide open 3's.

I won game 5 as i bet for the Beermen but i think i'm going to bet for Magnolia ML this coming Wednesday.

This made me thinking about my bet in game 6 since I'm still believing that SMB will take the win and cover the spread. In terms of rebounding, there's no big disparity although SMB had the advantage. I think the turning factor here was really the good 3 point shooting of Cruz.
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February 12, 2024, 05:57:01 AM
Like what I mentioned,  I love the way SMB adjusted after suffering a back to back losses with Magnolia they finally find the best way to counter their opponents, especially the import he knows that he got everyone to support him and with the way he show up and bring good defense to a fellow reinforcement  that's being paid after this win.

Cruz got a hot hands and take the player of the game award, and just like what he said , not done yet still game/games to play.

Yeah, Jericho Cruz needs to duplicate his output in game 5 to close out the series in game 6. If not, they are in big trouble as Bennie Boatwright is struggling with his 3-point shooting here in the last three games.

After seeing the 5 games of the series, I am more inclined this time to bet on Magnolia to win the series because the Beermen seem to live and die on their shooting from the outside that seldom they go to their big man in Junemar Fajardo to create an opening for those wide open 3's.

I won game 5 as i bet for the Beermen but i think i'm going to bet for Magnolia ML this coming Wednesday.
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February 11, 2024, 05:58:22 PM

Yes, It was a good game plan kicking the ball out and allow your shooters to take the shots, it's tough job for Magnolia to adjust as if they will leave him he can easily make a basket.

It was good because the shots were falling, but if not, SMB will struggle again and loss 3rd straight. Last time, Boatwright had a lot of attempts and his FG percentage was very low, they didn't let it happen this time as he was only limited, he let the locals do the scoring and he just grab some rebounds and defend Bey.

He is still very effective as he finished with 21 points but not forcing shots since he was 6-14.
On the starters of SMB, both Perez and Lassiter struggled with poor shooting, but good thing Cruz, Enciso and Trollana save them.

Like what I mentioned,  I love the way SMB adjusted after suffering a back to back losses with Magnolia they finally find the best way to counter their opponents, especially the import he knows that he got everyone to support him and with the way he show up and bring good defense to a fellow reinforcement  that's being paid after this win.

Cruz got a hot hands and take the player of the game award, and just like what he said , not done yet still game/games to play.
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February 11, 2024, 04:36:09 PM
What a game, Jericho Cruz was the hero of this game. 30 points for him.

On the starters of SMB, both Perez and Lassiter struggled with poor shooting, but good thing Cruz, Enciso and Trollana save them.
Yeah, it was good that Trollano, Cruz, Encison and don't forget about Junemar and Boatwright. Everyone has contributed that we've mentioned while the others have got little score but still good contribution. We're going on the game 6 and will this be the last game for Magnolia and SMB will be the champion this time?
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February 11, 2024, 09:15:17 AM

Yes, It was a good game plan kicking the ball out and allow your shooters to take the shots, it's tough job for Magnolia to adjust as if they will leave him he can easily make a basket.

It was good because the shots were falling, but if not, SMB will struggle again and loss 3rd straight. Last time, Boatwright had a lot of attempts and his FG percentage was very low, they didn't let it happen this time as he was only limited, he let the locals do the scoring and he just grab some rebounds and defend Bey.

He is still very effective as he finished with 21 points but not forcing shots since he was 6-14.
On the starters of SMB, both Perez and Lassiter struggled with poor shooting, but good thing Cruz, Enciso and Trollana save them.
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February 11, 2024, 08:30:39 AM
Is JMF playing? I just tune in and I didn't see him on the floor, so far, SMB had a good start, and if they will continue this, we might see the same scenario that happened in game 1 and 2. They need to win to be ahead on the series, because if they lose, I feel their confidence will drop as 3 losing streak would destroy a team's confidence. Maybe even if JMF is limited or will not play, I think SMB still are capable of winning since they have a good back up players like Jericho Cruz and Don Trollana who are both great defenders and rebounder as well.
Looks like SMB has been dictating the pace so far. Their is still not scoring much but the ball movement of SMB now is better. Not only Trollana and Cruz who are helping the team but they also have Simon Enciso who only earn a decent minutes tonight and he is hot from beyond the arc. I can see that the SMB are very confident now, they are eager to take the lead in the series.

Good thing that Cruz step up and help the entire team to less than a minute now and the lead is 6 seems that SMB will going to take
this game though still enough time for Magnolia to try pushing the last run.
His 3 point shooting was hot, that's why he is the best player of the game. That was his playoffs best or finals best, he deserve to be given a spot with SMB since he is a complete player not only on offense but on defense as well. According to him now "job's not finish yet"... there's still one to make, hopefully they'll make it in 6.

Again, the 3 point shooting was the key for the team.

Yeah, Cruz is a complete package a smart player who can bring both help either offense or defense he can contribute, same eith Encizo and Trollano they are smart players who's always ready to contribute whatever the designated role the coach will call for them, I like the outside shot when you know that your big man is letting you to build your confidence, Boatwright and Fajardo are doing it well, if you leave them free they'll take the shot while if they attract the defense they will kick it out and let the shooters to take it, good that they are bagging and not wasting the opportunities. Congrats to all SMB handicappers well covered handicap!

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Hmmm.. timeout now, I saw JMF on the bench, probably had played but with limited minutes only.
He is playing and has been contributing, and it doesn't look like he had an injury as he is still playing with the same intensity like in the previous games.
JMF added 18 points and his presence really help SMB to get this game pace to thier advantage. Like you said, seems like he doesn't have that injury "Pagpag lang okay na" in our own language..
He is fine, he probably has took a medicine and some physical theraphy so he can still play as normal. He was huge that game, because he attracted defense, and a kick out outside works wonder for him as their 3 point shots were falling.
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Yes, It was a good game plan kicking the ball out and allow your shooters to take the shots, it's tough job for Magnolia to adjust as if they will leave him he can easily make a basket.
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February 11, 2024, 08:10:10 AM
Big win by SMB, they can't dominate the Magnolia anymore but they came up with a great strategy this game. Making Boatwright more of a defender than a shooter works well for SMB. Expect the same strategy will be made in game 6 Boatwright and Fajardo has been huge on the floor with getting rebounds. As long as the 3 point shooters of SMB are clicking, winning should be on their favor.

They now have a lot of 3 point shooters and it's hard to predict on who will get hot.

1- Cruz
2- Enciso
3- Lassiter
4- CJ Perez.

How can they guard these players. See you in game 6, and it could be the end of the series.
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February 11, 2024, 08:01:25 AM
Is JMF playing? I just tune in and I didn't see him on the floor, so far, SMB had a good start, and if they will continue this, we might see the same scenario that happened in game 1 and 2. They need to win to be ahead on the series, because if they lose, I feel their confidence will drop as 3 losing streak would destroy a team's confidence. Maybe even if JMF is limited or will not play, I think SMB still are capable of winning since they have a good back up players like Jericho Cruz and Don Trollana who are both great defenders and rebounder as well.
Looks like SMB has been dictating the pace so far. Their is still not scoring much but the ball movement of SMB now is better. Not only Trollana and Cruz who are helping the team but they also have Simon Enciso who only earn a decent minutes tonight and he is hot from beyond the arc. I can see that the SMB are very confident now, they are eager to take the lead in the series.

Good thing that Cruz step up and help the entire team to less than a minute now and the lead is 6 seems that SMB will going to take
this game though still enough time for Magnolia to try pushing the last run.
His 3 point shooting was hot, that's why he is the best player of the game. That was his playoffs best or finals best, he deserve to be given a spot with SMB since he is a complete player not only on offense but on defense as well. According to him now "job's not finish yet"... there's still one to make, hopefully they'll make it in 6.

Again, the 3 point shooting was the key for the team.


Hmmm.. timeout now, I saw JMF on the bench, probably had played but with limited minutes only.
He is playing and has been contributing, and it doesn't look like he had an injury as he is still playing with the same intensity like in the previous games.
JMF added 18 points and his presence really help SMB to get this game pace to thier advantage. Like you said, seems like he doesn't have that injury "Pagpag lang okay na" in our own language..
He is fine, he probably has took a medicine and some physical theraphy so he can still play as normal. He was huge that game, because he attracted defense, and a kick out outside works wonder for him as their 3 point shots were falling.
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Is JMF playing? I just tune in and I didn't see him on the floor, so far, SMB had a good start, and if they will continue this, we might see the same scenario that happened in game 1 and 2. They need to win to be ahead on the series, because if they lose, I feel their confidence will drop as 3 losing streak would destroy a team's confidence. Maybe even if JMF is limited or will not play, I think SMB still are capable of winning since they have a good back up players like Jericho Cruz and Don Trollana who are both great defenders and rebounder as well.
Looks like SMB has been dictating the pace so far. Their is still not scoring much but the ball movement of SMB now is better. Not only Trollana and Cruz who are helping the team but they also have Simon Enciso who only earn a decent minutes tonight and he is hot from beyond the arc. I can see that the SMB are very confident now, they are eager to take the lead in the series.

Good thing that Cruz step up and help the entire team to less than a minute now and the lead is 6 seems that SMB will going to take
this game though still enough time for Magnolia to try pushing the last run.
Hmmm.. timeout now, I saw JMF on the bench, probably had played but with limited minutes only.
He is playing and has been contributing, and it doesn't look like he had an injury as he is still playing with the same intensity like in the previous games.
JMF added 18 points and his presence really help SMB to get this game pace to thier advantage. Like you said, seems like he doesn't have that injury "Pagpag lang okay na" in our own language..

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