2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 76.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 19, 2024, 10:56:44 AM

I use to remember Mambatac before when he made that last shot in the dying seconds of the game, he was been threaten by those fans who lose their bets, I hope we won't hear another kind of a situation like this as it was already a good lead for those early birds who manage to take that -6.5 handicap but that last shot it ruined everything.

I don't know if there's a points quotient in that conference, because if there is, that shot he took was valid. Bettors will get angry because they lose; that's normal. However, a player getting threatened is already stupid. As we all know, PBA players are not allowed to gamble, so let's assume that they don't care about the spread or they don't have an idea about it, so they can do whatever they want.

Quote from: Fredomago on January 19, 2024, 10:56:44 AM

Good thing for Gin kings handicappers, as NP missed the shot if that happen and repeat the same situation that rumors of manipulation may appear again, luckily it did not and like what you said, one underdog and one favorite who covered the handicap.

That would be 2 in a row if they allow that to happen. I believe there could be some rig but not in every game, otherwise, that league's reputation will go down the sink.

Quote from: mirakal on January 19, 2024, 09:27:44 AM

Next game will be this Sunday, it's a do or die game for Meralco vs Phoenix. I think Meralco will win here as no MVP teams had advance in the quarter finals, reaching the semi finals probably their best chance only and it's going to be SMB teams in the Finals.

That's interesting. However, I've seen what I have to see already and I believe Phoenix could not stand in this do or die game after the momentum shifted to the Meralco Bolts, They are a better closer, they don't panic, so I doubt Phoenix will even start to lead a double digit this game.

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Quote from: Finestream on January 19, 2024, 07:14:08 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 19, 2024, 03:08:51 AM

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

Too bad you lose your bet. At one point, it looks like SMB are gonna win via blowout, and then the 4th quarter comes and SMB stop playing defense. After dominating the ROS in the 3rd quarter, they put their guard down in the 4th quarter allowing a 33-18 score in favor of the ROS.

It was an 8 point lead with few seconds remaining, it could have result to a "push", but ROS took the last shot with a 3 point shot, and bang! 5 point win only. Even the early line which is -6.5 for SMB wasn't miss. Grin

I use to remember Mambatac before when he made that last shot in the dying seconds of the game, he was been threaten by those fans who lose their bets, I hope we won't hear another kind of a situation like this as it was already a good lead for those early birds who manage to take that -6.5 handicap but that last shot it ruined everything.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 19, 2024, 08:10:00 AM

I think it's too obvious if they'll do the same pattern. And by the looks of the game now which is Ginebra is enjoying a 21 points lead, there's no way Northport will be able to comeback since they also miss their best local player which is Tolentino. There's still plenty of time, but when Ginebra is up this big, I don't anymore expect that their opponents will be able to come back, even losing on a single digit points.

Almost, if Northport were able to make their shots, they could cover the handicap as they are +8.5, so an 8 point win by Ginebra is enough for the bettors of Northport to win. I think the closest Northport had was 10 point deficit in the 4th quarter with few minutes remaining, if they were able to make one shot and Ginebra opt not to shoot the game, lots of bettors will cry.

So it's even, 1 for underdog and 1 for favorites that covered the spread.

Next game will be this Sunday, it's a do or die game for Meralco vs Phoenix. I think Meralco will win here as no MVP teams had advance in the quarter finals, reaching the semi finals probably their best chance only and it's going to be SMB teams in the Finals.

Good thing for Gin kings handicappers, as NP missed the shot if that happen and repeat the same situation that rumors of manipulation may appear again, luckily it did not and like what you said, one underdog and one favorite who covered the handicap.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 19, 2024, 08:10:00 AM

I think it's too obvious if they'll do the same pattern. And by the looks of the game now which is Ginebra is enjoying a 21 points lead, there's no way Northport will be able to comeback since they also miss their best local player which is Tolentino. There's still plenty of time, but when Ginebra is up this big, I don't anymore expect that their opponents will be able to come back, even losing on a single digit points.

Almost, if Northport were able to make their shots, they could cover the handicap as they are +8.5, so an 8 point win by Ginebra is enough for the bettors of Northport to win. I think the closest Northport had was 10 point deficit in the 4th quarter with few minutes remaining, if they were able to make one shot and Ginebra opt not to shoot the game, lots of bettors will cry.

So it's even, 1 for underdog and 1 for favorites that covered the spread.

Next game will be this Sunday, it's a do or die game for Meralco vs Phoenix. I think Meralco will win here as no MVP teams had advance in the quarter finals, reaching the semi finals probably their best chance only and it's going to be SMB teams in the Finals.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 19, 2024, 07:50:57 AM

Quote from: Finestream on January 19, 2024, 07:14:08 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 19, 2024, 03:08:51 AM

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

Too bad you lose your bet. At one point, it looks like SMB are gonna win via blowout, and then the 4th quarter comes and SMB stop playing defense. After dominating the ROS in the 3rd quarter, they put their guard down in the 4th quarter allowing a 33-18 score in favor of the ROS.

It was an 8 point lead with few seconds remaining, it could have result to a "push", but ROS took the last shot with a 3 point shot, and bang! 5 point win only. Even the early line which is -6.5 for SMB wasn't miss. Grin

Can that happen again in the 2nd game?

Ginebra is up 20 points after the first half, the spread was -8.5, so northport needs to come back in the 3rd quarter, or at least make it a close quarter so if they can't come back in the 3rd, there's still a 4th quarter for them to cover the spread. I'm thinking of some rigged show right now, but hopefully it's not the case in this game.

I think it's too obvious if they'll do the same pattern. And by the looks of the game now which is Ginebra is enjoying a 21 points lead, there's no way Northport will be able to comeback since they also miss their best local player which is Tolentino. There's still plenty of time, but when Ginebra is up this big, I don't anymore expect that their opponents will be able to come back, even losing on a single digit points.

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Quote from: Finestream on January 19, 2024, 07:14:08 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 19, 2024, 03:08:51 AM

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

Too bad you lose your bet. At one point, it looks like SMB are gonna win via blowout, and then the 4th quarter comes and SMB stop playing defense. After dominating the ROS in the 3rd quarter, they put their guard down in the 4th quarter allowing a 33-18 score in favor of the ROS.

It was an 8 point lead with few seconds remaining, it could have result to a "push", but ROS took the last shot with a 3 point shot, and bang! 5 point win only. Even the early line which is -6.5 for SMB wasn't miss. Grin

Can that happen again in the 2nd game?

Ginebra is up 20 points after the first half, the spread was -8.5, so northport needs to come back in the 3rd quarter, or at least make it a close quarter so if they can't come back in the 3rd, there's still a 4th quarter for them to cover the spread. I'm thinking of some rigged show right now, but hopefully it's not the case in this game.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 19, 2024, 03:08:51 AM

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

Too bad you lose your bet. At one point, it looks like SMB are gonna win via blowout, and then the 4th quarter comes and SMB stop playing defense. After dominating the ROS in the 3rd quarter, they put their guard down in the 4th quarter allowing a 33-18 score in favor of the ROS.

It was an 8 point lead with few seconds remaining, it could have result to a "push", but ROS took the last shot with a 3 point shot, and bang! 5 point win only. Even the early line which is -6.5 for SMB wasn't miss. Grin

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 19, 2024, 02:28:36 AM

Big line movement for SMB. From -6.5, currently it's -8. ROS has a decent lineup also, so it's really hard to decide if we would think that SMB will win \

I could not say no to this line movement, it simply tells that SMB is gonna win, maybe on a huge margin. SMB has a lot of players that could defend the ROS import, not sure if whom they'll put to minimize the output of SMB's import who scored 44 points last game. It's a quarter finals game, I expect this game to be a physical game, so I'm also leaning on the under.

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

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Big line movement for SMB. From -6.5, currently it's -8. ROS has a decent lineup also, so it's really hard to decide if we would think that SMB will win because they also need to cover the spread, winning 10+ points will make our bet safe, and they have to start strong so they'll not fall short in the end.

As we can see on the standing https://pba.ph/standings.. ROS are on a 6 winning streak, while SMB are on 5 win streak.

In terms fo import competition, I like the import of SMB as although he is new but you can see how hardworking he is on the floor. In their last game, their import has 44 points and 12 rebounds, he is probably a double double machine.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 18, 2024, 09:32:26 AM

The quarter finals continues, and we have 2 games tomorrow.

First game at 4:00 PM
Rain or Shine vs San Miguel Beer (-6.5)

2nd game at 8:00
Batang Pier vs Barangay Ginebra (-8.5)

Calling all sports handicappers, do you guys have a prediction on these games?

Seems that the handicap for both games are challenging, I mean it's tough to predict how both heavy favorite will play the game, stats wise both underdogs are performing well and we can't tell if they will continue to bring that good games that they are showing, I think for me, it's best to wait for the live games and then assess whether the blends of players are good to support either the handicap of the ML.

PBA games most of the time bring surprises to their fans and bettors.. hahaha! You know what I mean right? Good luck kabayan!

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Quote from: Maslate on January 18, 2024, 05:47:36 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on January 18, 2024, 04:58:21 AM

Finally!

COLUMN: Tim Cone is SBP choice to be permanent Gilas coach

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CHICAGO - Sometime next week, when all the wrinkles are smoothened, the Samahang Basketbol Ng Pilipinas (SBP) will announce a new head coach to lead Gilas Pilipinas through the next Fiba cycle.

Tim Cone, multiple sources told me, is the chosen one. Once he formally assumes the position, Cone will also be given the free hand to pick a team manager to replace the retired Butch Antonio.

There's nothing to worry now because it was alreay named that Tim Cone is the permanent head coach of the Gilas Pilipinas. We can be confident that our team will be more competitive in the long run, great news for the basketball community here.

Great news! I so loved it. Tim Cone will have a bigger responsibility but since he proved himself to be a worthy coach, the support of the Filipinos is expected to be 100%. No matter what trials he'll encounter with the team, people will never forget that he was a big reason why Gilas won gold during Asian game.

Maybe no more politics in the Gilas, no more favoritism and only those who are capable of making a good team will join. However, we have no idea yet as to when would Brownlee will come back, I believe he was sanction due to the substance seen during the test.

This is a good decision cause we all know once timcone is in the position we can see a good progress not just in the team performances but the progress of selecting good players that can contribute very well in the game. And we all know how good coach Tim is he can build trust, confidence and chemistry for his players to him so that's the advantages of gillas nowadays if coach timcone will handled. Also he has a good strategy on his plays and he will use all his players to have a chance to contribute Their Best.

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The quarter finals continues, and we have 2 games tomorrow.

First game at 4:00 PM
Rain or Shine vs San Miguel Beer (-6.5)

2nd game at 8:00
Batang Pier vs Barangay Ginebra (-8.5)

Calling all sports handicappers, do you guys have a prediction on these games?

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 18, 2024, 04:58:21 AM

Finally!

COLUMN: Tim Cone is SBP choice to be permanent Gilas coach

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CHICAGO - Sometime next week, when all the wrinkles are smoothened, the Samahang Basketbol Ng Pilipinas (SBP) will announce a new head coach to lead Gilas Pilipinas through the next Fiba cycle.

Tim Cone, multiple sources told me, is the chosen one. Once he formally assumes the position, Cone will also be given the free hand to pick a team manager to replace the retired Butch Antonio.

There's nothing to worry now because it was alreay named that Tim Cone is the permanent head coach of the Gilas Pilipinas. We can be confident that our team will be more competitive in the long run, great news for the basketball community here.

Great news! I so loved it. Tim Cone will have a bigger responsibility but since he proved himself to be a worthy coach, the support of the Filipinos is expected to be 100%. No matter what trials he'll encounter with the team, people will never forget that he was a big reason why Gilas won gold during Asian game.

Maybe no more politics in the Gilas, no more favoritism and only those who are capable of making a good team will join. However, we have no idea yet as to when would Brownlee will come back, I believe he was sanction due to the substance seen during the test.

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Finally!

COLUMN: Tim Cone is SBP choice to be permanent Gilas coach

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CHICAGO - Sometime next week, when all the wrinkles are smoothened, the Samahang Basketbol Ng Pilipinas (SBP) will announce a new head coach to lead Gilas Pilipinas through the next Fiba cycle.

Tim Cone, multiple sources told me, is the chosen one. Once he formally assumes the position, Cone will also be given the free hand to pick a team manager to replace the retired Butch Antonio.

There's nothing to worry now because it was alreay named that Tim Cone is the permanent head coach of the Gilas Pilipinas. We can be confident that our team will be more competitive in the long run, great news for the basketball community here.

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Unfortunately TNT loss, it turns out that the high handicap for them was just a trapped. At the first quarter, TNT were able to compete with the energy of Magnolia, but they don't have the consistency unlike the Magnolia who are still relentless with their defense. It was a very physical game, even RHJ struggled due to the suffucating defense employed to him. It's just that Magnolia played strong defense and good ball movement, and the lack of good point guard has been a problem for TNT resulting to more turnovers than usual.

Magnolia -8.5 won, (FINAL SCORE 109-94).

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on January 17, 2024, 06:30:10 AM

Quote from: Finestream on January 17, 2024, 06:17:33 AM

What an exciting game between Meralco and Fuelmasters.

Currently in a triple overtime now, both team wants to win so it's a very close game. I'm having fun now, but if you are a bettor, you will certainly enjoy watching it if you are in the side of Fuelmasters as they have +4.5 handicap during pre-game.

Edit : looks like Meralco already have a 6 points lead now with less than 4 minutes left.

You have to admit, these unreal comebacks in almost every PBA game smell very fishy.

FM was leading for over 47 minutes straight , by 15 points in the last quarter and then suddenly they fall apart. Last possession by Meralco being down by 3 points and 10sec to go and FM doesn't foul, let them shoot the 3 for the tie and after it of course can't make the game winner .

1st OT, starting 5:0 and tied at the end to miss the game winner
2nd OT leading again just to get tied and miss the game winner for the 3rd straight time Roll Eyes

3rd OT, they finally totally fall apart starting 0:10, just as expected. Shameful.

This is PBA it its' s best (worst).

Something that really missing is the experience they can foul and let meralco to shot the ft then gamble for the rebound just in case meralco will try missing the last shot, it's really annoying that the coach allow that 3point shot and let the game to OT, personally it's something that might lead me any doubt that the game was been manipulated its just the maturity of the coaches and how they will handle pressure like this, it's almost a win for FM just so happened that they are not well equip in terms of finishing the kind of situation that they've encountered against the bolts.

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