2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 168.

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Quote from: yayayo on December 29, 2021, 03:48:29 PM

I'm more worried about the players and the injuries next year in Qatar. They have just come out of the competition (95% of all players) and then they have to start again at the World Cup within 1 week. That can never be healthy and never go well, that is an invitation to open injuries. In England they normally play in the month of December, but in other countries they have a winter break. It's there for a reason. Sub-top clubs are not bothered by this, but the strong teams do risk something by letting their strongest players go to the World Cup. Ultimately the choices and responsibility of the player(s) themselves.

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It won't be like that. The championships will start early next season, mainly in Europe. Most leagues are planning to take a break before the start of the world cup.
The injury problem will not be so much because of the month in which the championship takes place, but because of the climate in Qatar. Low humidity and very high temperature. Not to mention the time difference, bearing in mind that the games will all be played late into the night.

Probably when they return to the clubs, they will be able to feel the problems.

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I'm more worried about the players and the injuries next year in Qatar. They have just come out of the competition (95% of all players) and then they have to start again at the World Cup within 1 week. That can never be healthy and never go well, that is an invitation to open injuries. In England they normally play in the month of December, but in other countries they have a winter break. It's there for a reason. Sub-top clubs are not bothered by this, but the strong teams do risk something by letting their strongest players go to the World Cup. Ultimately the choices and responsibility of the player(s) themselves.

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Quote from: diyetisman on December 29, 2021, 03:13:48 PM

I don't support the idea to organize the World Cup biennially. I mean that it wouldn't be good for the players in terms of having a much tighter fixture ahead of them. In terms of spectators, it would be great of course. Because everyone loves to watch the World Cup. But I don't want to be selfish about this topic of course. But we will see what FIFA will do. Maybe they will really give this formula a try and then decide the future.

I have a similar opinion, a big tournament every two years can be very exhausting for players and teams ... but it is definitely a good thing for us spectators! It is still a tournament with strong national teams and top players, it would be nice to watch them more often and bet on them of course! I don't know what kind of decision we can expect, from what I've read and watched it looks like people are divided, half like the new idea and the other half prefer the traditional way! It will be interesting to see the final decision about this matter!

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I don't support the idea to organize the World Cup biennially. I mean that it wouldn't be good for the players in terms of having a much tighter fixture ahead of them. In terms of spectators, it would be great of course. Because everyone loves to watch the World Cup. But I don't want to be selfish about this topic of course. But we will see what FIFA will do. Maybe they will really give this formula a try and then decide the future.

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Quote from: yayayo on December 29, 2021, 12:49:18 PM

I've read of some influential players complaining about a World Cup being held every 2 years. I just don't understand the problem, normally you just play a European Championship and in South America they have the Copa Libertadores. Logistically, it shouldn't be a problem either. You play a tournament every 2 years anyway, then just combine everything with a World Cup every time, just as easy. Just don't think it has enough support.

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Well, there is some appeal in having more localized tournaments like the Eurocup or the South America Cup as it gives smaller teams from those regions a chance to competein a big tournament. Also there is the aspect of shorter travelling distances to the location for fans and teams. Ultimatively it is a question of power though. FIFA is trying to get all tournaments and essentially wants UEFA (and others) to submit

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Quote from: joker_josue on December 29, 2021, 12:37:06 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on December 29, 2021, 04:38:59 AM

I agree. FIFA is making an effort to change the cycle of this most special tournament in football. This is going to be a big problem for the participant teams if the cycle is decided as two years. I absolutely don't support this idea. Because this is going to make things difficult for the players as they would have a much tighter schedule. And we could see more injury problems etc.. I believe that the World Cup should stay the way as it's always been.

That's true. And although I don't agree with this idea of a World Cup every 2 years either, this could open up other interesting opportunities.

Increasing the load of games will force teams to start turning more players. This could motivate the emergence of more quality players, or give the opportunity to other good players who don't have that opportunity now. The teams and selections, had to start to have more rotating teams, with not just an 11 base, but several possibilities.

So, although I don't think it's a good idea, it could be a new opportunity for more players.

I've read of some influential players complaining about a World Cup being held every 2 years. I just don't understand the problem, normally you just play a European Championship and in South America they have the Copa Libertadores. Logistically, it shouldn't be a problem either. You play a tournament every 2 years anyway, then just combine everything with a World Cup every time, just as easy. Just don't think it has enough support.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on December 29, 2021, 04:38:59 AM

I agree. FIFA is making an effort to change the cycle of this most special tournament in football. This is going to be a big problem for the participant teams if the cycle is decided as two years. I absolutely don't support this idea. Because this is going to make things difficult for the players as they would have a much tighter schedule. And we could see more injury problems etc.. I believe that the World Cup should stay the way as it's always been.

That's true. And although I don't agree with this idea of a World Cup every 2 years either, this could open up other interesting opportunities.

Increasing the load of games will force teams to start turning more players. This could motivate the emergence of more quality players, or give the opportunity to other good players who don't have that opportunity now. The teams and selections, had to start to have more rotating teams, with not just an 11 base, but several possibilities.

So, although I don't think it's a good idea, it could be a new opportunity for more players.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on December 29, 2021, 04:38:59 AM

Quote from: Boristhecat on December 29, 2021, 04:31:49 AM

Quote from: wxa7115 on December 28, 2021, 02:50:23 PM

We must remember that FIFA has in a way already resolved this, the 2022 world cup to be held at Qatar seems to be the last world cup with 32 teams.

The world cup of 2026 which will be held at Canada, Mexico and the US will hold 48 teams, the format is kind of odd but if successful then this means that the increase of 16 spots will allow us to see a more diverse set of countries making it to the tournament, while at the same time increasing the revenue they will get out of it, while the fans get even more soccer to watch, so it seems like a decision everyone can get behind.

We must also remember that FIFA is trying to move the World Cup from a four-year cycle to a two-year one. This will deal a serious blow to the clubs and to the prestige of this competition, it seems to me that sooner or later it will lead to the fact that the meaning of playing for the national teams will gradually disappear.

I agree. FIFA is making an effort to change the cycle of this most special tournament in football. This is going to be a big problem for the participant teams if the cycle is decided as two years. I absolutely don't support this idea. Because this is going to make things difficult for the players as they would have a much tighter schedule. And we could see more injury problems etc.. I believe that the World Cup should stay the way as it's always been.

@ILuckyGuyI wasn’t this idea shot down by all, and honestly it would cause player’s to withdraw from the tournament because their yearly fixture list is already congested. Also I’m not sure if fans are open to seeing more teams, because if those teams perform poorly then they won’t attract more viewers, and it’s a risky but a bold move nevertheless.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on December 29, 2021, 04:31:49 AM

Quote from: wxa7115 on December 28, 2021, 02:50:23 PM

We must remember that FIFA has in a way already resolved this, the 2022 world cup to be held at Qatar seems to be the last world cup with 32 teams.

The world cup of 2026 which will be held at Canada, Mexico and the US will hold 48 teams, the format is kind of odd but if successful then this means that the increase of 16 spots will allow us to see a more diverse set of countries making it to the tournament, while at the same time increasing the revenue they will get out of it, while the fans get even more soccer to watch, so it seems like a decision everyone can get behind.

We must also remember that FIFA is trying to move the World Cup from a four-year cycle to a two-year one. This will deal a serious blow to the clubs and to the prestige of this competition, it seems to me that sooner or later it will lead to the fact that the meaning of playing for the national teams will gradually disappear.

I agree. FIFA is making an effort to change the cycle of this most special tournament in football. This is going to be a big problem for the participant teams if the cycle is decided as two years. I absolutely don't support this idea. Because this is going to make things difficult for the players as they would have a much tighter schedule. And we could see more injury problems etc.. I believe that the World Cup should stay the way as it's always been.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on December 28, 2021, 02:50:23 PM

We must remember that FIFA has in a way already resolved this, the 2022 world cup to be held at Qatar seems to be the last world cup with 32 teams.

The world cup of 2026 which will be held at Canada, Mexico and the US will hold 48 teams, the format is kind of odd but if successful then this means that the increase of 16 spots will allow us to see a more diverse set of countries making it to the tournament, while at the same time increasing the revenue they will get out of it, while the fans get even more soccer to watch, so it seems like a decision everyone can get behind.

We must also remember that FIFA is trying to move the World Cup from a four-year cycle to a two-year one. This will deal a serious blow to the clubs and to the prestige of this competition, it seems to me that sooner or later it will lead to the fact that the meaning of playing for the national teams will gradually disappear.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on December 29, 2021, 02:33:25 AM

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 23, 2021, 04:38:46 AM

Portugal and Italy, one of these teams are going to be eliminated from the World Cup Qualifiers and this makes me really sad. I would really like to see both of them competing in the World Cup. Because they both deserve to be a part of this tournament. But there is nothing we can do about this unfortunately. And if I choose one of them to join the World Cup, I'd prefer seeing Italy there.

Yes, one of the two great teams can be sure will be eliminated more quickly in the 2022 world cup, the two teams are currently in one lane in the play-offs, and if we look at it they will most likely face each other in the final of the play-off route C later, now there are only 3 tickets left and the final winners from each lane will get the remaining 3 tickets from the European zone to the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

In fact, Italy and Portugal are to blame for not being able to qualify directly for the World Cup and now they have to worry until the last minute.
They didn't have difficult groups, but they played very poorly in the qualifications and now they only have this last chance through additional qualifications.
Italy is the current European champion but failed to qualify for the last World Cup in Russia in 2018.
That's why I'm cheering for Italy because I think it would be a disaster for them not to qualify for the World Cup again.

if you look at their matches in the qualifying phase, it's actually not too difficult considering that the team that is in the same group as them is still below them.
However, their reality is different, such as losing their spurs in yesterday's phase which made them thrown into the KnockOut Phase.
I myself saw in the last few matches Italy and Portugal seemed lacking in tactics and their formation was too monotonous

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Quote from: poldanmig on December 28, 2021, 06:18:39 PM

Quote from: skscengeng on December 23, 2021, 04:38:46 AM

Portugal and Italy, one of these teams are going to be eliminated from the World Cup Qualifiers and this makes me really sad. I would really like to see both of them competing in the World Cup. Because they both deserve to be a part of this tournament. But there is nothing we can do about this unfortunately. And if I choose one of them to join the World Cup, I'd prefer seeing Italy there.

Yes, one of the two great teams can be sure will be eliminated more quickly in the 2022 world cup, the two teams are currently in one lane in the play-offs, and if we look at it they will most likely face each other in the final of the play-off route C later, now there are only 3 tickets left and the final winners from each lane will get the remaining 3 tickets from the European zone to the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

In fact, Italy and Portugal are to blame for not being able to qualify directly for the World Cup and now they have to worry until the last minute.
They didn't have difficult groups, but they played very poorly in the qualifications and now they only have this last chance through additional qualifications.
Italy is the current European champion but failed to qualify for the last World Cup in Russia in 2018.
That's why I'm cheering for Italy because I think it would be a disaster for them not to qualify for the World Cup again.

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 23, 2021, 04:38:46 AM

Portugal and Italy, one of these teams are going to be eliminated from the World Cup Qualifiers and this makes me really sad. I would really like to see both of them competing in the World Cup. Because they both deserve to be a part of this tournament. But there is nothing we can do about this unfortunately. And if I choose one of them to join the World Cup, I'd prefer seeing Italy there.

Yes, one of the two great teams can be sure will be eliminated more quickly in the 2022 world cup, the two teams are currently in one lane in the play-offs, and if we look at it they will most likely face each other in the final of the play-off route C later, now there are only 3 tickets left and the final winners from each lane will get the remaining 3 tickets from the European zone to the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Quote from: wxa7115 on December 28, 2021, 02:50:23 PM

We must remember that FIFA has in a way already resolved this, the 2022 world cup to be held at Qatar seems to be the last world cup with 32 teams.

The world cup of 2026 which will be held at Canada, Mexico and the US will hold 48 teams, the format is kind of odd but if successful then this means that the increase of 16 spots will allow us to see a more diverse set of countries making it to the tournament, while at the same time increasing the revenue they will get out of it, while the fans get even more soccer to watch, so it seems like a decision everyone can get behind.

Honestly, despite having commented on this before, I think it is an exaggeration to increase the list of countries in this way.
I agree that this is more an ambition for money than an honest intention to diversify football across more countries.

FIFA should focus more efforts on making the qualifiers fairer for all continents, that would be a "heroic act".

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Quote from: wxa7115 on December 28, 2021, 02:50:23 PM

We must remember that FIFA has in a way already resolved this, the 2022 world cup to be held at Qatar seems to be the last world cup with 32 teams.

The world cup of 2026 which will be held at Canada, Mexico and the US will hold 48 teams, the format is kind of odd but if successful then this means that the increase of 16 spots will allow us to see a more diverse set of countries making it to the tournament, while at the same time increasing the revenue they will get out of it, while the fans get even more soccer to watch, so it seems like a decision everyone can get behind.

If FIFA is going to take a decision like this, surely it's going to be very good for soccer fans and many other countries with very good increase in revenue and fans bank. Because with current quota we are missing some good number of quality teams those deserve to be in this mega event which is playing after every four years.

But, maybe they face some big issue with time frame because surely this will increase duration for this even as well which is not helpful for many European countries as their leagues have no enough time for this all but if they settled this all with mutual understanding then surely it's going to be very exciting time for soccer fans around the globe.

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Quote from: alegotardo on December 22, 2021, 06:09:30 PM

Quote from: emrecemsan on December 16, 2021, 07:35:53 PM

To see the World Cup's quality to increase, I think that Fifa need to increase the quota that they have given to European teams. I hope that we can watch many more European teams in the World Cup after the next format of the tournament.

I don't think it's fair!
For those who want to see top-level Europe football, just follow UEFA.

As several people have already commented here, FIFA's intention is to increasingly open space for all confederations to have a fair opportunity to participate in the World Cup.
If there is any continent that should benefit from more teams qualifying, in my opinion it would be the one with the most countries interested in participating in the championship, and not the best.

We must remember that FIFA has in a way already resolved this, the 2022 world cup to be held at Qatar seems to be the last world cup with 32 teams.

The world cup of 2026 which will be held at Canada, Mexico and the US will hold 48 teams, the format is kind of odd but if successful then this means that the increase of 16 spots will allow us to see a more diverse set of countries making it to the tournament, while at the same time increasing the revenue they will get out of it, while the fans get even more soccer to watch, so it seems like a decision everyone can get behind.

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Bookmakers think the complete opposite thing that I think seemingly. Grin

Because I'm expecting to see Wales defeating Austria and Ukraine moving Scotland out of their way. I definitely expect two competitive games here. But Wales and Ukraine have better attacking lines than their opponents I think. They can close their weaknesses in their defenses like this. And after that, Ukraine can beat Wales and join the World Cup.

In recent matches Austria is doing some better just because of this, Bookmakers are feeling into this way. Austria and Scotland can go for final of this Path as well but if this happens then surely Austria could be better team and can win this, but Ukraine is also having very good squad with some good players, and they can win this match and go for final against other winner. But still good thing from 55 tough European teams ten already qualified and now 3 more need to do this through this qualification which is not easy, let's watch how these teams prepare and done for their qualification.

If we see an Austria - Scotland matchup in the final round of their path, then my favourite side would be Austria. They seem to be a little ahead of Scotland in terms of strength. But we never know. We witness so many surprises happening in the Qualifiers or tournaments like this. And I still think about whether it would be good to increase the quota for the European teams to join the World Cup. Because we see very strong teams being eliminated in the Qualifiers too.

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 23, 2021, 04:38:46 AM

Portugal and Italy, one of these teams are going to be eliminated from the World Cup Qualifiers and this makes me really sad. I would really like to see both of them competing in the World Cup. Because they both deserve to be a part of this tournament. But there is nothing we can do about this unfortunately. And if I choose one of them to join the World Cup, I'd prefer seeing Italy there.

I'd like to see them both there, too. But if all the big European teams were guaranteed to qualify, then what's the point of the qualification process? If there's no jeopardy, there's no point to it. This time one of those two won't make it, and they'll have to wait to try again next time around.

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 23, 2021, 04:38:46 AM

Portugal and Italy, one of these teams are going to be eliminated from the World Cup Qualifiers and this makes me really sad. I would really like to see both of them competing in the World Cup. Because they both deserve to be a part of this tournament. But there is nothing we can do about this unfortunately. And if I choose one of them to join the World Cup, I'd prefer seeing Italy there.

I agree with you, both teams should be in the tournament. Italy is the bigger name on paper and with a more successful history, but Portugal has its appeal because of Christiano Ronaldo. I would love to see him one last time in a big tournament.

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Portugal and Italy, one of these teams are going to be eliminated from the World Cup Qualifiers and this makes me really sad. I would really like to see both of them competing in the World Cup. Because they both deserve to be a part of this tournament. But there is nothing we can do about this unfortunately. And if I choose one of them to join the World Cup, I'd prefer seeing Italy there.

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