Topic: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 170. (Read 35010 times)
Betting on some team by thinking emotionally could be one of the most dangerous actions to take. This can cause the bettor to lose a lot of money. Bookmakers nearly always know what they are doing and we should always take their data into account also. For example, I see Ukraine as the favourite side against Wales here but bookmakers think the opposite. And I bet so many people think the same as me like Ukraine would advance to the final stage.
From what people write here, it seems to be easy money to bet against Russia and Austria 
The vast majority of people bet on emotion and not rationality. They easily bet against countries they don't like, especially if they are going to play against someone they like.
Haha, you are right about that, I still make the same mistake from time to time but try to avoid it. When you are a fan of a team, you will be inclined that they will win everything with ease.
I don't think bookmakers look at the U17, these are completely different teams after all. I suppose to some extend the quotes could be affected by hedging (if a lot of people put money on Team A it might be good to offer a better rate for Team B and a worse rate for Team A) but also by which team is playing in their home country. In fact the latter seems to have a huge influence when looking at the quotes discussed here as home teams have much smaller quotes than away teams. I wonder how big this influence in times of Covid and (at least semi-)empty stadiums is?
From what people write here, it seems to be easy money to bet against Russia and Austria
I agree, bookies don't care about the U17 teams; they have their own team of analysts that analyse all news/stats/... of all the teams and based on that, they make their judgement. They can be wrong sometimes and than you can win with nice odds, but it is up to the player to find them.
Italy really got surprising results in the World Cup Qualifiers. But they are still a very strong team. And as we are talking about the chance to join the World Cup now, I expect them to improve their performance a lot compared to before. They would eliminate North Macedonia easily. But let's say that they have a matchup against Portugal in the final round of the playoffs, then things are going to get really interesting. But I still believe in Italy to advance.
It is normal for Italia to perform better in the final stages of major competitions than in qualifying. Even so, this qualifying didn't go so well.
Either way, although I prefer Portugal, I believe it's Italy that we'll see in Qatar.
Italy was playing world cup qualifiers terribly, they were unable to win most games, achieving only boring ties against considered weak teams such as Northern Ireland and Bulgaria. And even though Switzerland isn't a weak team, Italy should have been superior to them, but they were unable to do it as well, staying in second position in group C. Considering it, Portugal seems to have some advantage over them.
However, at same time, Italy has played Eurocopa 2021 brightly and that is a very strong factor at their favour. I could even believe Italy has totally focused their effort and energy in Eurocopa until now and since it's over, they can fully concentrate their skills in world cup from this phase on.
However, at same time, Italy has played Eurocopa 2021 brightly and that is a very strong factor at their favour. I could even believe Italy has totally focused their effort and energy in Eurocopa until now and since it's over, they can fully concentrate their skills in world cup from this phase on.
Italy really got surprising results in the World Cup Qualifiers. But they are still a very strong team. And as we are talking about the chance to join the World Cup now, I expect them to improve their performance a lot compared to before. They would eliminate North Macedonia easily. But let's say that they have a matchup against Portugal in the final round of the playoffs, then things are going to get really interesting. But I still believe in Italy to advance.
Italy was playing world cup qualifiers terribly, they were unable to win most games, achieving only boring ties against considered weak teams such as Northern Ireland and Bulgaria. And even though Switzerland isn't a weak team, Italy should have been superior to them, but they were unable to do it as well, staying in second position in group C. Considering it, Portugal seems to have some advantage over them.
However, at same time, Italy has played Eurocopa 2021 brightly and that is a very strong factor at their favour. I could even believe Italy has totally focused their effort and energy in Eurocopa until now and since it's over, they can fully concentrate their skills in world cup from this phase on.
You are right in this concern, but sadly Italy is facing some serious trouble with too many injuries which are occurring these matches, and they have to face few unwanted draws against weak teams, so now they are in qualifiers for next world cup after losing their spot in last world cup, but surely we all know in few things no one can do any magic, so this happens in Italy case they are facing some terrible injuries with too many players but now good luck they have some good time hopefully during this period they will have some better options or alternative, so they will be able to play against strong opponent like Portugal and will qualify for next world cup.However, at same time, Italy has played Eurocopa 2021 brightly and that is a very strong factor at their favour. I could even believe Italy has totally focused their effort and energy in Eurocopa until now and since it's over, they can fully concentrate their skills in world cup from this phase on.
@uneng in my personal opinion both the teams are starting fresh, because now it doesn’t matter what happened in the past few games as all that will matter is how they perform in their upcoming fixtures knowing that if they drop their guard down they’ll be eliminated. Furthermore as a Ronaldo fan I’m biased to say I want Portugal to qualify for the World Cup, but as a football fan I would be happy to see Italy qualify too if Portugal fails to qualify.
Italy was playing world cup qualifiers terribly, they were unable to win most games, achieving only boring ties against considered weak teams such as Northern Ireland and Bulgaria. And even though Switzerland isn't a weak team, Italy should have been superior to them, but they were unable to do it as well, staying in second position in group C. Considering it, Portugal seems to have some advantage over them.
However, at same time, Italy has played Eurocopa 2021 brightly and that is a very strong factor at their favour. I could even believe Italy has totally focused their effort and energy in Eurocopa until now and since it's over, they can fully concentrate their skills in world cup from this phase on.
You are right in this concern, but sadly Italy is facing some serious trouble with too many injuries which are occurring these matches, and they have to face few unwanted draws against weak teams, so now they are in qualifiers for next world cup after losing their spot in last world cup, but surely we all know in few things no one can do any magic, so this happens in Italy case they are facing some terrible injuries with too many players but now good luck they have some good time hopefully during this period they will have some better options or alternative, so they will be able to play against strong opponent like Portugal and will qualify for next world cup. However, at same time, Italy has played Eurocopa 2021 brightly and that is a very strong factor at their favour. I could even believe Italy has totally focused their effort and energy in Eurocopa until now and since it's over, they can fully concentrate their skills in world cup from this phase on.
I'm going to be excited about a probable Portugal - Italy matchup. It would be the biggest one among all of the paths to qualify for the World Cup. These teams are champion teams in the first place. It is really difficult to make a certain prediction about which team would be able to advance for sure. They both have almost the same chance actually. But still, it feels like Italy have a slightly bigger chance.
Italy was playing world cup qualifiers terribly, they were unable to win most games, achieving only boring ties against considered weak teams such as Northern Ireland and Bulgaria. And even though Switzerland isn't a weak team, Italy should have been superior to them, but they were unable to do it as well, staying in second position in group C. Considering it, Portugal seems to have some advantage over them.However, at same time, Italy has played Eurocopa 2021 brightly and that is a very strong factor at their favour. I could even believe Italy has totally focused their effort and energy in Eurocopa until now and since it's over, they can fully concentrate their skills in world cup from this phase on.
From what people write here, it seems to be easy money to bet against Russia and Austria
The vast majority of people bet on emotion and not rationality. They easily bet against countries they don't like, especially if they are going to play against someone they like.
Maybe bookmakers are guided by the mood of the fans (or rather, the money that they bet on various outcomes). Perhaps fans from rich countries generate a greater flow of money for these European teams (Ukraine is also an Europe but eastern), so bookmakers are forced to give such odds. It will be interesting to see who is right in the end.
Bookmakers are probably relying on the U17 result. Where Wales beat Ukraine 3-1. And then you should also take into account the fact that Wales has Gareth Bale in their team. But honestly, I see Ukraine as having a better chance of winning this match than Wales. Now, it won't be an easy game, it will certainly be a very unbeatable match until the last minute.
From what people write here, it seems to be easy money to bet against Russia and Austria
I'm going to be excited about a probable Portugal - Italy matchup. It would be the biggest one among all of the paths to qualify for the World Cup. These teams are champion teams in the first place. It is really difficult to make a certain prediction about which team would be able to advance for sure. They both have almost the same chance actually. But still, it feels like Italy have a slightly bigger chance.
Maybe bookmakers are guided by the mood of the fans (or rather, the money that they bet on various outcomes). Perhaps fans from rich countries generate a greater flow of money for these European teams (Ukraine is also an Europe but eastern), so bookmakers are forced to give such odds. It will be interesting to see who is right in the end.
Bookmakers are probably relying on the U17 result. Where Wales beat Ukraine 3-1. And then you should also take into account the fact that Wales has Gareth Bale in their team. But honestly, I see Ukraine as having a better chance of winning this match than Wales. Now, it won't be an easy game, it will certainly be a very unbeatable match until the last minute.
In fact, I agree with you, but the bookmakers have a diametrically opposite opinion:
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
Bookmakers think the complete opposite thing that I think seemingly.
Because I'm expecting to see Wales defeating Austria and Ukraine moving Scotland out of their way. I definitely expect two competitive games here. But Wales and Ukraine have better attacking lines than their opponents I think. They can close their weaknesses in their defenses like this. And after that, Ukraine can beat Wales and join the World Cup.Maybe bookmakers are guided by the mood of the fans (or rather, the money that they bet on various outcomes). Perhaps fans from rich countries generate a greater flow of money for these European teams (Ukraine is also an Europe but eastern), so bookmakers are forced to give such odds. It will be interesting to see who is right in the end.
I think that bookmakers might have a point there. They wouldn't determine these odds just for fun in the end. It would be better for us to bet on the games taking this information into account. I am not sure about the Wales - Austria matchup yet but I believe that Ukraine have a bigger chance to eliminate their opponent. I really like their attacking players as they are very talented.
Bookmakers think the complete opposite thing that I think seemingly. Because I'm expecting to see Wales defeating Austria and Ukraine moving Scotland out of their way. I definitely expect two competitive games here. But Wales and Ukraine have better attacking lines than their opponents I think. They can close their weaknesses in their defenses like this. And after that, Ukraine can beat Wales and join the World Cup.
In recent matches Austria is doing some better just because of this, Bookmakers are feeling into this way. Austria and Scotland can go for final of this Path as well but if this happens then surely Austria could be better team and can win this, but Ukraine is also having very good squad with some good players, and they can win this match and go for final against other winner. But still good thing from 55 tough European teams ten already qualified and now 3 more need to do this through this qualification which is not easy, let's watch how these teams prepare and done for their qualification. Because I'm expecting to see Wales defeating Austria and Ukraine moving Scotland out of their way. I definitely expect two competitive games here. But Wales and Ukraine have better attacking lines than their opponents I think. They can close their weaknesses in their defenses like this. And after that, Ukraine can beat Wales and join the World Cup.In fact, I agree with you, but the bookmakers have a diametrically opposite opinion:
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
Bookmakers think the complete opposite thing that I think seemingly.
Because I'm expecting to see Wales defeating Austria and Ukraine moving Scotland out of their way. I definitely expect two competitive games here. But Wales and Ukraine have better attacking lines than their opponents I think. They can close their weaknesses in their defenses like this. And after that, Ukraine can beat Wales and join the World Cup. 
In fact, I agree with you, but the bookmakers have a diametrically opposite opinion:
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
I am surprised by those quotes, I thought Ukraine is considered stronger. I suppose there is also some influence on which team plays in their home country.Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
I was just checking the other paths and Protugal (1.9) is slightly ahead of Italy (2.0). In the 3rd path Russia (2.55) is favored against Poland (3.55) and Sweden (3.55). Czechia is an outsider (7.25)
Yes, absolutely all quotes are surprising. Is Portugal slightly better than Italy? How? I think the odds of Portugal and Italy are about 25% to 75%. But the funniest thing is the favorite of path B - Russia. I am from Russia and I do not understand why our team is rated so highly, I thought it would be rated as 3rd.
I would not say that there is a clear favorite in that game. Both will be motivated, but Italy just won a big title. I don't know if all the players can really give their very best. Ronaldo will be extremely motivated for sure. He is the one who could make the difference. No matter which team has to leave in the end, it will be a loss for the fans in front of the TVs.
In fact, I agree with you, but the bookmakers have a diametrically opposite opinion:
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
I am surprised by those quotes, I thought Ukraine is considered stronger. I suppose there is also some influence on which team plays in their home country.Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
I was just checking the other paths and Protugal (1.9) is slightly ahead of Italy (2.0). In the 3rd path Russia (2.55) is favored against Poland (3.55) and Sweden (3.55). Czechia is an outsider (7.25)
Yes, absolutely all quotes are surprising. Is Portugal slightly better than Italy? How? I think the odds of Portugal and Italy are about 25% to 75%. But the funniest thing is the favorite of path B - Russia. I am from Russia and I do not understand why our team is rated so highly, I thought it would be rated as 3rd.
In fact, I agree with you, but the bookmakers have a diametrically opposite opinion:
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
I am surprised by those quotes, I thought Ukraine is considered stronger. I suppose there is also some influence on which team plays in their home country.Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
I was just checking the other paths and Protugal (1.9) is slightly ahead of Italy (2.0). In the 3rd path Russia (2.55) is favored against Poland (3.55) and Sweden (3.55). Czechia is an outsider (7.25)
Yes, absolutely all quotes are surprising. Is Portugal slightly better than Italy? How? I think the odds of Portugal and Italy are about 25% to 75%. But the funniest thing is the favorite of path B - Russia. I am from Russia and I do not understand why our team is rated so highly, I thought it would be rated as 3rd.
In fact, I agree with you, but the bookmakers have a diametrically opposite opinion:
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
It seems really interesting. I don't think that Austria are a little more favourite than Wales. I think the opposite. And I think the same thing for the other match also. Ukraine are powerful enough to beat Scotland. I don't think that Scotland are good at their attacking side but they are good at defending. I still see Ukraine's attacking power being one step ahead of Scotland's defense.
In fact, I agree with you, but the bookmakers have a diametrically opposite opinion:
Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
I am surprised by those quotes, I thought Ukraine is considered stronger. I suppose there is also some influence on which team plays in their home country.Austria 3.00
Wales 3.50
Scotland 3.75
Ukraine 4.50
Ukraine is considered an outsider of the A. In my opinion, this is an underestimation of Ukraine and perhaps it makes sense to bet on it, although I have no desire to freeze money for such a long period.
I was just checking the other paths and Protugal (1.9) is slightly ahead of Italy (2.0). In the 3rd path Russia (2.55) is favored against Poland (3.55) and Sweden (3.55). Czechia is an outsider (7.25)
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