2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 173.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on December 11, 2021, 02:53:37 AM

As it might be the last world cup for CR7 I want Portugal to reach the final tournament from Path C. Italy is in real danger on missing two straight world cups. On the other hand, I am not worried because, if CR7 fails, then also i'll get to see Messi & Neymar's super skills who have already got tickets to Qatar.

CR7 is one of most favorite players around the globe and peoples love to watch him in soccer ground with his skills and many other things related to him even Messi having some good number of awards but still not near CR7 about Naymar is already injury porn player, so it's not all about who is coming or who is not coming, but it's all about soccer and CR7 which is massive impact and if Portugal lost their spot then surely It's going to be big setback for this world cup but still all will be on as its usual business, and we will have some good new stars for future with many teams having their tickets for this mega even happening in 2022 in Qatar.

Italy is surely favorite but still with some good number of players also available into Portugal but just need some good strategy for doing some better.

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One great soccer nation is going to get kicked out. For the fans is actually sucks and I am not very keen to watch the play-offs either. It is cooler to watch those clashes at a regular tournament. For Ronaldo it would be a slap in his face at this stage of the career.

Seriously this is big setback for Portugal as recently they have few very talented players and these all are doing very good but still they fail to qualify for world cup and now facing some tough competition from team like Italy which is also having very bad period in last few years as they already miss the 2018 world cup and now again on verge of losing their place second time in a row, but now we have to wait for their next move how they respond and what is outcome of this all.

Few years back I was mad about Italian soccer but sadly now recently they are struggling but good thing recently they won European Cup which is again a good sign for them and their soccer fans.

Italy didn't have a very bad period in the last few years, they just won the European Championship. They won against Belgium, Spain and England at the EURO. I wouldn't call that a bad period to be honest! Cheesy

That is why I think first of all it is going to be a very close call between Portugal and Italy, and once a team qualified for the final round that team also has the chance to win the World Cup title. Both teams are strong and both should be part of the final round...

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Quote from: coco23 on December 11, 2021, 03:15:24 AM

I think Path A is pretty balanced. I don't see Austria as a huge favorite. In Path B it'll be the winner of the second match (Sweden or Czech). Patch C will be Italy vs Portugal and that'll be most likely Italy, as much as everybody is hoping for a last CR7 show Grin

Although I think Italy will be favorites against Portugal.

We cannot forget that at the individual level Portugal has a better team. There's CR7, Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Ruben Dias, Pepe, Rafa, and a couple of good players. The biggest problem for Portugal is the coach, who insists on a strategy that does not favor these players. But, if eventually he changes his strategy and puts these players to play in their usual positions, then we will have a very well-laid game.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 10, 2021, 10:42:04 PM

LOL.. we need to wait for another three and half months to find out whether we will be able to watch Cristiano Ronaldo during the 2022 World Cup at Qatar. If they somehow qualify, then that would mean that Italy will be eliminated. Path A and Path B doesn't feature any of the superpower teams. In all probability Austria would qualify from Path A, while either Sweden or Czechia looks probable from Path B. Path C is quite complicated. In addition to Portugal and Italy, they have two very good teams in Turkey and North Macedonia.

I think Path A is pretty balanced. I don't see Austria as a huge favorite. In Path B it'll be the winner of the second match (Sweden or Czech). Patch C will be Italy vs Portugal and that'll be most likely Italy, as much as everybody is hoping for a last CR7 show Grin

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I will obviously support and hope that Portugal wins this match against Turkey and Portugal should win this match because on point table they are a far better team than turkey. And obviously, Ronaldo is going to cause a lot of problems for Turkey's defense. Frankly, I don't think that Turkey's defense will be able to handle Portugal's attack.

There are still four whole months before this match, so now it is quite difficult to say who or which team will be in what form and to make a prediction. I do not think that Portugal is much stronger than Turkey to speak of a clear advantage, at least I hope that the match at home will give an additional advantage and Portugal will win.

In terms of ranking, Portugal is indeed superior because they are still in a fairly high position.
But in terms of performance at the moment I think like you said there is still a lot of time to see how they prepare well.
on the other hand i still see the dependence on ronaldo in the ranks of the portugal players which makes it very difficult for them to develop the game they do

As it might be the last world cup for CR7 I want Portugal to reach the final tournament from Path C. Italy is in real danger on missing two straight world cups. On the other hand, I am not worried because, if CR7 fails, then also i'll get to see Messi & Neymar's super skills who have already got tickets to Qatar.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 10, 2021, 10:42:04 PM

LOL.. we need to wait for another three and half months to find out whether we will be able to watch Cristiano Ronaldo during the 2022 World Cup at Qatar. If they somehow qualify, then that would mean that Italy will be eliminated. Path A and Path B doesn't feature any of the superpower teams. In all probability Austria would qualify from Path A, while either Sweden or Czechia looks probable from Path B. Path C is quite complicated. In addition to Portugal and Italy, they have two very good teams in Turkey and North Macedonia.

Yes, I also thought about it. It's hard for me to imagine the degree of psychological pressure on players who are waiting for a super important match to determine whether they will make it to their last World Cup or not. At the same time, they continue to play in regular games and cannot do anything to quickly come to this important match. Such situations are dangerous by psychological burnout - even before the event occurs, the player has time to spend all his mental strength and this affects the quality of his game.

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LOL.. we need to wait for another three and half months to find out whether we will be able to watch Cristiano Ronaldo during the 2022 World Cup at Qatar. If they somehow qualify, then that would mean that Italy will be eliminated. Path A and Path B doesn't feature any of the superpower teams. In all probability Austria would qualify from Path A, while either Sweden or Czechia looks probable from Path B. Path C is quite complicated. In addition to Portugal and Italy, they have two very good teams in Turkey and North Macedonia.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 09, 2021, 12:04:46 PM

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I will obviously support and hope that Portugal wins this match against Turkey and Portugal should win this match because on point table they are a far better team than turkey. And obviously, Ronaldo is going to cause a lot of problems for Turkey's defense. Frankly, I don't think that Turkey's defense will be able to handle Portugal's attack.

There are still four whole months before this match, so now it is quite difficult to say who or which team will be in what form and to make a prediction. I do not think that Portugal is much stronger than Turkey to speak of a clear advantage, at least I hope that the match at home will give an additional advantage and Portugal will win.

I agree in the sense that if the team of Turkey really plays to their best of their ability the distance between them and Portugal is not as large so they could win in a good day.

However the big difference is they do not have a player like Ronaldo, if Ronaldo wants to go to the world cup and say goodbye to his national team in the best possible way then he needs to be a huge factor during that game and the next one that they will most likely have to play against Italy, otherwise the chances to see Portugal at the world cup will not be as high as we think.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 09, 2021, 12:04:46 PM

Quote from: Minor Miner on December 09, 2021, 10:53:10 AM

I will obviously support and hope that Portugal wins this match against Turkey and Portugal should win this match because on point table they are a far better team than turkey. And obviously, Ronaldo is going to cause a lot of problems for Turkey's defense. Frankly, I don't think that Turkey's defense will be able to handle Portugal's attack.

There are still four whole months before this match, so now it is quite difficult to say who or which team will be in what form and to make a prediction. I do not think that Portugal is much stronger than Turkey to speak of a clear advantage, at least I hope that the match at home will give an additional advantage and Portugal will win.

In terms of ranking, Portugal is indeed superior because they are still in a fairly high position.
But in terms of performance at the moment I think like you said there is still a lot of time to see how they prepare well.
on the other hand i still see the dependence on ronaldo in the ranks of the portugal players which makes it very difficult for them to develop the game they do

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 09, 2021, 10:21:34 PM

if Portugal wants to win then they need their entire team to fire and support Ronaldo, because he can’t help them win each and every match without their support. Furthermore I too am wishing Portugal makes it, but the road for the World Cup is very tough and they’ll need some solid performances and some luck too.

Luck all time favours braves, so I am feeling which team will play bravely surely going to be winner of this match and having entry into FIFA World Cup 2022 right now Italy is having some better chance but Ronaldo and home factor surely giving some better chance to Portugal as well.

If Portugal wants to win then surely they have to be fully supported for their main player because Italy will try to check on him for having some better strategy and chance to be in World Cup. Soccer pundits feeling good about Italy but still nothing is sure as on game day any upset is possible because of all circumstances.

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There are still four whole months before this match, so now it is quite difficult to say who or which team will be in what form and to make a prediction. I do not think that Portugal is much stronger than Turkey to speak of a clear advantage, at least I hope that the match at home will give an additional advantage and Portugal will win.

Turkey having some good players with good team but still not able to handle top ranked European teams those are having massive advantage in quality with some very skilled players I am sure Portugal will never have any issue against Turkey, and they can beat them easily but still issue is Italy where they are going to have some very tough competition and these both teams are level in quality and skill but in my view Italy is some better as they won recently European Championship, but we can't predict about any match which is going to play after nearly 3 months with many things can happen like injuries and some other hopefully this could be entertaining match for soccer fans around the globe.

It all depends on the form in which the teams will be in a particular match - this is not a tournament where the result is more or less predictable and fair, this is just one match where each team has a chance.
Even if Portugal is really much stronger than Turkey and has, say, a 75% chance of winning, then given the match with Italy (I estimate it much stronger than Portugal as about 75 to 25 in Italy's favor), Portugal's chances of getting a ticket to the World Cup are about 0.75x0. 25 = ~ 19% Cry

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I'm favouring Portugal and Italy in their draws against Turkey and North Macedonia respectively. Because Italy are already far stronger than North Macedonia and they would even beat them by a big score gap if they would like. And Portugal wouldn't get an easy win vs Turkey but they are still the better club in this draw. If Ronaldo plays good, I see Turkey's chance being low. And after that, I think Italy would get past Portugal by a decent score and join the World Cup finally.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 09, 2021, 10:21:34 PM

@alegotardo if Portugal wants to win then they need their entire team to fire and support Ronaldo, because he can’t help them win each and every match without their support. Furthermore I too am wishing Portugal makes it, but the road for the World Cup is very tough and they’ll need some solid performances and some luck too.

That's the point, the team isn't playing together. Everyone is waiting for Ronaldo to solve everything, and that can't be. The coach continues to bet on a style of play, which is not at all suited to the type of players that Portugal has.

I would like Portugal to reach the world cup, but honestly, if they win Torquia, they will almost certainly lose to Italy. This will only happen if the coach completely changes his game strategy. And honestly I find this difficult.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 09, 2021, 06:53:01 PM

I believe that there is not a gigantic gap between Portugal and Turkey now. If Portugal were really good enough, they wouldn't be performing in the playoffs now in the end. I must admit that Portugal are still one step ahead. But it is going to be depending on Turkey's performance level also. Because if Turkey show a performance like in the old times, Portugal would have a really hard time against them surely.

I also feel that Portugal actually doesn't deserve to be a qualifier, but that's how football is, even though it's studded with star players and filled with good European players, it can't guarantee easy entry into the World Cup qualifiers, but I'm optimistic that Portugal will be able to win against Turkey, I'm also optimistic about it. ronaldo, bruno fernandes, able to bring portugal to the world cup Qatar..

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Quote from: alegotardo on December 09, 2021, 07:27:36 PM

Quote from: Minor Miner on December 09, 2021, 10:53:10 AM

I will obviously support and hope that Portugal wins this match against Turkey and Portugal should win this match because on point table they are a far better team than turkey. And obviously, Ronaldo is going to cause a lot of problems for Turkey's defense. Frankly, I don't think that Turkey's defense will be able to handle Portugal's attack.

I wouldn't be so optimistic...
Turkey has a team that I consider to be quite strong and that usually gives the big teams work. I think Portugal will have a lot of work to do on this game. The advantage of Portugal is that it will have the fans on its side to give support, this can help a little.
But... we still have 3 months to speculate about it and for now my bet is still to see Portugal classified, despite the difficulties.

@alegotardo if Portugal wants to win then they need their entire team to fire and support Ronaldo, because he can’t help them win each and every match without their support. Furthermore I too am wishing Portugal makes it, but the road for the World Cup is very tough and they’ll need some solid performances and some luck too.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on December 09, 2021, 10:53:10 AM

I will obviously support and hope that Portugal wins this match against Turkey and Portugal should win this match because on point table they are a far better team than turkey. And obviously, Ronaldo is going to cause a lot of problems for Turkey's defense. Frankly, I don't think that Turkey's defense will be able to handle Portugal's attack.

I wouldn't be so optimistic...
Turkey has a team that I consider to be quite strong and that usually gives the big teams work. I think Portugal will have a lot of work to do on this game. The advantage of Portugal is that it will have the fans on its side to give support, this can help a little.
But... we still have 3 months to speculate about it and for now my bet is still to see Portugal classified, despite the difficulties.

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I believe that there is not a gigantic gap between Portugal and Turkey now. If Portugal were really good enough, they wouldn't be performing in the playoffs now in the end. I must admit that Portugal are still one step ahead. But it is going to be depending on Turkey's performance level also. Because if Turkey show a performance like in the old times, Portugal would have a really hard time against them surely.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 09, 2021, 12:04:46 PM

There are still four whole months before this match, so now it is quite difficult to say who or which team will be in what form and to make a prediction. I do not think that Portugal is much stronger than Turkey to speak of a clear advantage, at least I hope that the match at home will give an additional advantage and Portugal will win.

Turkey having some good players with good team but still not able to handle top ranked European teams those are having massive advantage in quality with some very skilled players I am sure Portugal will never have any issue against Turkey, and they can beat them easily but still issue is Italy where they are going to have some very tough competition and these both teams are level in quality and skill but in my view Italy is some better as they won recently European Championship, but we can't predict about any match which is going to play after nearly 3 months with many things can happen like injuries and some other hopefully this could be entertaining match for soccer fans around the globe.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on December 09, 2021, 10:53:10 AM

I will obviously support and hope that Portugal wins this match against Turkey and Portugal should win this match because on point table they are a far better team than turkey. And obviously, Ronaldo is going to cause a lot of problems for Turkey's defense. Frankly, I don't think that Turkey's defense will be able to handle Portugal's attack.

There are still four whole months before this match, so now it is quite difficult to say who or which team will be in what form and to make a prediction. I do not think that Portugal is much stronger than Turkey to speak of a clear advantage, at least I hope that the match at home will give an additional advantage and Portugal will win.

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Quote from: kayiboyu on December 09, 2021, 05:44:10 AM

When it comes to the draw between Portugal and Turkey, I see Portugal as the favourite side. Ronaldo is going to be the biggest threat to the Turkey defense. Turkey's recent look wasn't the best but they were recovering slowly after the manager change. We don't know what kind of a team we will watch against Portugal. If they don't improve their usual performance, they don't have much chance vs Portugal.

I will obviously support and hope that Portugal wins this match against Turkey and Portugal should win this match because on point table they are a far better team than turkey. And obviously, Ronaldo is going to cause a lot of problems for Turkey's defense. Frankly, I don't think that Turkey's defense will be able to handle Portugal's attack.

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