2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 94.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 09, 2022, 02:21:41 PM

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There is recent news that Ecuador is likely to be removed from upcoming World Cup because one of their players wasn't eligible to play for Ecuador:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1622632/ecuador-world-cup-qatar-2022-chile-international-football-news
Chile is going to replace them, I hate when decisions who will play in tournament is solved off the pitch, but rules are rules...

If indeed Fifa's investigation later finds Ecuador wrong, then there is no hope for them other than being removed from the list of participants.
But in this case, there is also a lot of speculation that if they are dropped, it is likely that Italy will appear as a replacement because from some news I read, if Ecuador is removed, the team with the highest FIFA ranking will replace it.

If they kick them out they will probobly add Ukraine because of the war situation and get politics again into football.
So i wouldnt be surprised it they give them a wild card or something or maybe even Italy to get into the World cup because they got knocked out surprisingly

If Ecuador is eliminated, they still have to send a team from the Americas to the tournament. It should be fairer that this new upcoming team is not one of the European teams. There are already too many European teams. +1 European country would not be more fair when Ecuador is eliminated. Maybe if they vote, Ukraine will participate, but this decision will be purely political, and I'm against it. The country that deserves it must go. Maybe a selection should be made among the candidate countries.

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It is very nice for Wales that they have qualified for the World Cup. Yet it makes little difference whether Wales goes to the World Cup or Ukraine, since both countries will not play any significant role there. from my head Wales now joins the group with England and America. There they could still be 2nd, but then they play against the number 1 from the group in the Netherlands and that will be the final station. Especially for Bale it is nice that he can finally go to the World Cup.

Wales' qualification for the Qatar world cup this year was a tremendous achievement for Gareth Bale and his friends after a 64-year wait of course that time was not a short time but finally they were able to qualify for Qatar after beating Ukraine in the play-offs through Gareth's single goal. Bale also ensured Wales got a place in Qatar next November, of course this result was well deserved for Wales after they had to struggle to beat Ukraine where Wales' own game was so pressured by opponents Ukraine but Gareth Bale's single goal could change everything for the country, congratulations for Wales after 64 years of waiting

This was a great achievement for Gareth Bale. But it is possible because they are very lucky. I didn't think Wales will win against Ukraine. In the 34th minute of the match, Andriy Yarmolenko mistakenly sent the ball into their own net, so that Ukraine lost to 1-0. But I'm happy to see Gareth Bale on the World Cup stage. Gareth Bale is a great player, yet he has never had a chance to play in the World Cup. Hopefully this will be a memorable World Cup for Bale.

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It is very nice for Wales that they have qualified for the World Cup. Yet it makes little difference whether Wales goes to the World Cup or Ukraine, since both countries will not play any significant role there. from my head Wales now joins the group with England and America. There they could still be 2nd, but then they play against the number 1 from the group in the Netherlands and that will be the final station. Especially for Bale it is nice that he can finally go to the World Cup.

Wales' qualification for the Qatar world cup this year was a tremendous achievement for Gareth Bale and his friends after a 64-year wait of course that time was not a short time but finally they were able to qualify for Qatar after beating Ukraine in the play-offs through Gareth's single goal. Bale also ensured Wales got a place in Qatar next November, of course this result was well deserved for Wales after they had to struggle to beat Ukraine where Wales' own game was so pressured by opponents Ukraine but Gareth Bale's single goal could change everything for the country, congratulations for Wales after 64 years of waiting

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 09, 2022, 03:48:09 PM

At first I thought to completely refrain from this League of Friendly Games of Nations, but still I try to find interesting options for betting. Yesterday I bet all that winnings on the Netherlands and experienced interesting emotions at the end of the game (oddly enough, the rest of the games seemed less reliable to me). I think tomorrow I can find a couple of quieter options.

Yeah, same. NL was on my tickets both games so far, and the first win was a shame as it was a huge 35/10 one that easily won, whereas the second game was probably not good value and I thought it was all over when Wales equalised with 3 minutes injury time to go. Thankfully, they turned deadly with the final attack of the game but it's actually not odd the other games are less reliable, the results most certainly have.

Anyway, nothing much left till the Peru-Aus playoff in Qatar. I put in a slightly dumb bet on both Oceania teams at around 31/10

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 09, 2022, 10:53:19 PM

I would like to have New Zealand playing in the World Cup. Australia may or may not qualify (they need to defeat Peru in the playoff), but we need at least one team from the Oceania region.

I would also love to see New Zealand again at the World Cup even they have a small Team and that great players.

Quote from: nullama on June 09, 2022, 10:22:42 PM

The rules are very specific. It's not like they just ban the country and pick a new one to replace them.

I heard that there is a specific rule for exactly this case now with what happend to Ecuador , and if they get banned for this World Cup.
The rule says that best World ranked team that not playing already in the World Cup will getting this place.
But you know the UEFA ( they are like politicans sometimes ) its possible that they give Ukraine also the spot because of the War.

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Quote from: tomos81 on June 09, 2022, 08:32:42 PM

Of course, Costa Rica and New Zealand have the most opportunities this time around. If New Zealand and Costa Rica work a little harder, their fortunes could be decided. So these two teams must work a little harder and if they can give good service, they are more likely to win the trophy.

Checked the odds, and I could see that Costa Rica is a clear favorite. But for the sake of diversity, I would like to have New Zealand playing in the World Cup. Australia may or may not qualify (they need to defeat Peru in the playoff), but we need at least one team from the Oceania region. And New Zealand is not a very bad team. Watched some of their matches during the 2010 World Cup, and they put up a strong performance back then (never lost a match in the group phase but failed to qualify to the next stage).

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 09, 2022, 02:21:41 PM

If they kick them out they will probobly add Ukraine because of the war situation and get politics again into football.
So i wouldnt be surprised it they give them a wild card or something or maybe even Italy to get into the World cup because they got knocked out surprisingly

Football and sports always been mixed, it's nothing new. But I don't see Ukraine added to World Cup in place of Ecuador. Italy would be more likely, but I doubt that it will happen. Most likely IMO that team from same confederation will be added and it will be Chile. And it would be most fair decision in this situation.

I disagree with several option what happening with Ecuador, I know made mistake but replace with Ukraine as humanity or change with Italy as strong country and Chile are not good option. Third countries above totally failed on World Cup qualifier and how come they can participant on 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar? better keep giving chance for Ecuador and give punishment for player have made mistake, give penalty points for Ecuador after 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar edition. Crazy reason if giving chance to Ukraine, Italy or Chile participant on 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar after bad performance on qualifier.

The rules are very specific. It's not like they just ban the country and pick a new one to replace them.

If Ecuador is found to have used a foreign national player while playing the qualifiers, then FIFA will exchange the results of the matches where the player was in the field, with a 3-0 win for the other country.

If you do the numbers, Ecuador ends up outside of the qualification zone, and Chile ends up 4th, which is a direct qualification.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 09, 2022, 07:15:13 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on June 09, 2022, 02:21:41 PM

If they kick them out they will probobly add Ukraine because of the war situation and get politics again into football.
So i wouldnt be surprised it they give them a wild card or something or maybe even Italy to get into the World cup because they got knocked out surprisingly

Football and sports always been mixed, it's nothing new. But I don't see Ukraine added to World Cup in place of Ecuador. Italy would be more likely, but I doubt that it will happen. Most likely IMO that team from same confederation will be added and it will be Chile. And it would be most fair decision in this situation.

I disagree with several option what happening with Ecuador, I know made mistake but replace with Ukraine as humanity or change with Italy as strong country and Chile are not good option. Third countries above totally failed on World Cup qualifier and how come they can participant on 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar? better keep giving chance for Ecuador and give punishment for player have made mistake, give penalty points for Ecuador after 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar edition. Crazy reason if giving chance to Ukraine, Italy or Chile participant on 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar after bad performance on qualifier.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 09, 2022, 07:03:07 AM

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NZ losing is a clearer outcome for me than Australia losing, but I think both are likely.

both Costa Rica and New Zealand have almost equal chances this time.

Of course, Costa Rica and New Zealand have the most opportunities this time around. If New Zealand and Costa Rica work a little harder, their fortunes could be decided. So these two teams must work a little harder and if they can give good service, they are more likely to win the trophy.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 09, 2022, 02:21:41 PM

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If they kick them out they will probobly add Ukraine because of the war situation and get politics again into football.
So i wouldnt be surprised it they give them a wild card or something or maybe even Italy to get into the World cup because they got knocked out surprisingly

It doesn't work like that.

It's very specific, if they find Ecuador was using a foreign national playing for their team, then FIFA would cancel the results of any match where that player was in the field, swapping it for a 3-0 victory for the other team.

If you run the math, considering every game that player was in the field, Chile ends up in fourth position, direct qualification, and Ecuador ends up out of the qualification.

It's not like they just choose a country to replace them.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 09, 2022, 02:21:41 PM

If they kick them out they will probobly add Ukraine because of the war situation and get politics again into football.
So i wouldnt be surprised it they give them a wild card or something or maybe even Italy to get into the World cup because they got knocked out surprisingly

Football and sports always been mixed, it's nothing new. But I don't see Ukraine added to World Cup in place of Ecuador. Italy would be more likely, but I doubt that it will happen. Most likely IMO that team from same confederation will be added and it will be Chile. And it would be most fair decision in this situation.

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It is very nice for Wales that they have qualified for the World Cup. Yet it makes little difference whether Wales goes to the World Cup or Ukraine, since both countries will not play any significant role there. from my head Wales now joins the group with England and America. There they could still be 2nd, but then they play against the number 1 from the group in the Netherlands and that will be the final station. Especially for Bale it is nice that he can finally go to the World Cup.

Finally there is some life in the forum too. Wales and Ukraine match happened a few days ago - but hype is still felt.
What is next upcoming match?
Looking fwd to the amzing matches.

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It is very nice for Wales that they have qualified for the World Cup. Yet it makes little difference whether Wales goes to the World Cup or Ukraine, since both countries will not play any significant role there. from my head Wales now joins the group with England and America. There they could still be 2nd, but then they play against the number 1 from the group in the Netherlands and that will be the final station. Especially for Bale it is nice that he can finally go to the World Cup.

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What can you say about today's games? Maybe the Netherlands? The rest of the pairs look risky even Scotland - Armenia.

Well done, friend! Saw your ticket, and thanks to Weghorst the damned tall abomination, I had my first winning acca in a long, long time -- that does happen to be Nations League but yeah, we don't care haha. All the favourites in Group A and B won finally.

At first I thought to completely refrain from this League of Friendly Games of Nations, but still I try to find interesting options for betting. Yesterday I bet all that winnings on the Netherlands and experienced interesting emotions at the end of the game (oddly enough, the rest of the games seemed less reliable to me). I think tomorrow I can find a couple of quieter options.

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Quote from: Alanaz on June 09, 2022, 12:41:24 PM

Quote from: LTU_btc on June 08, 2022, 06:21:04 PM

There is recent news that Ecuador is likely to be removed from upcoming World Cup because one of their players wasn't eligible to play for Ecuador:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1622632/ecuador-world-cup-qatar-2022-chile-international-football-news
Chile is going to replace them, I hate when decisions who will play in tournament is solved off the pitch, but rules are rules...

If indeed Fifa's investigation later finds Ecuador wrong, then there is no hope for them other than being removed from the list of participants.
But in this case, there is also a lot of speculation that if they are dropped, it is likely that Italy will appear as a replacement because from some news I read, if Ecuador is removed, the team with the highest FIFA ranking will replace it.

If they kick them out they will probobly add Ukraine because of the war situation and get politics again into football.
So i wouldnt be surprised it they give them a wild card or something or maybe even Italy to get into the World cup because they got knocked out surprisingly

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 08, 2022, 06:21:04 PM

There is recent news that Ecuador is likely to be removed from upcoming World Cup because one of their players wasn't eligible to play for Ecuador:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1622632/ecuador-world-cup-qatar-2022-chile-international-football-news
Chile is going to replace them, I hate when decisions who will play in tournament is solved off the pitch, but rules are rules...

If indeed Fifa's investigation later finds Ecuador wrong, then there is no hope for them other than being removed from the list of participants.
But in this case, there is also a lot of speculation that if they are dropped, it is likely that Italy will appear as a replacement because from some news I read, if Ecuador is removed, the team with the highest FIFA ranking will replace it.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on June 09, 2022, 06:28:41 AM

NZ losing is a clearer outcome for me than Australia losing, but I think both are likely.

Well.. it is not that simple. I haven't watched too many of Costa Rica's matches. But back in 2014, they shocked everyone when they topped Group D, ahead of Uruguay, England and Italy. Italy finished 3rd and failed to qualify for the knockout phase. Worse still, England finished at rock bottom with just 1 point. It was the "group of death" and Costa Rica managed to top that group. But then in 2018, they were pathetic. Once again they were placed in a tough group, but this time they failed to win even a single match. IMO, both Costa Rica and New Zealand have almost equal chances this time.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 08, 2022, 06:21:04 PM

I don't really know why Peru is so strongly favoured against Australia. I don't think that they're that much better. If I would have to predict, I would say that this game will got o Extra Time and maybe penalties. And yeah,
Costa Rica isn't something special, but they're still much better than New Zealand.

I don't think Peru are massively better, but they are certainly somewhat better. Anyone who can make it through to the play-offs from the South American section is a strong team. They have to be favourites.

Agree on Costa Rica vs New Zealand. Costa Rica are merely an okay team, nothing special, but New Zealand are generally not very good, and would be expected to lose.

NZ losing is a clearer outcome for me than Australia losing, but I think both are likely.

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Quote from: snipie on June 08, 2022, 02:22:34 AM

2 tickets left for the World Cup, Australia - Peru will play on June 13 followed by Costa Rica - New Zealand.
No need to mention that the American teams have the advantage tho.. Peru 1.8 vs 4.4 Australia and Costa Rica 1.6 vs 6.2 New Zealand.
The defeat of UAE was expected and 1 goal difference as the final score was a good one for them imo.

Australia was a bit lucky in the match against the United Arab Emirates where they played not so well but managed to get rid of the United Arab Emirates but with this result they were not allowed to bring because they had been waiting for the Latin American team, namely Peru, of course the quality of Peru and the United Arab Emirates was much different in the United Arab Emirates. where Peru is a subscriber to the world cup, of course Australia must not be careless if they want to compete in Qatar next November even though the statistics favor Australia to qualify.but Peru can surprise the kangaroo country

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 08, 2022, 08:26:43 AM

What can you say about today's games? Maybe the Netherlands? The rest of the pairs look risky even Scotland - Armenia.

Well done, friend! Saw your ticket, and thanks to Weghorst the damned tall abomination, I had my first winning acca in a long, long time -- that does happen to be Nations League but yeah, we don't care haha. All the favourites in Group A and B won finally.

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Who else thinks a Kiwi-Aussie acca is worth the money?

I think so. I'm surprised that Australia has a 4.6 odds of winning and a 2.9 overall odds of qualifying. Despite the fact that Peru is a strong team, these are too pessimistic estimates for Australia. I think that in such circumstances betting on Australia would be a logical move because winning looks more likely than the bookmakers show us.

Great! Then I'm definitely putting in a small bet on that -- Aussies and Kiwis both have always almost been put at high-value odds because they do end up losing/drawing a lot against UEFA and Concacaf teams. I should know, I pick them quite a lot when odds are above 5/1 on ML heh.

But they play in hot Qatar so I wonder is Australia might prefer that... if Peru play at home, the high altitudes always suck the life out of opponents but elsewhere their inferior height is a problem.

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