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Quote from: alani123 on June 02, 2024, 06:15:43 PM

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It should not come as a surprise to you in the first place, though.
Don't you remember the reaction of the media and the establishment when Trump won the nomination of the Republican party ? He was all around the news, specially on CNN attacking all the flaw they could get from him,.from.his unfortunate comments on touching women and the way he even refered to his political companions within the Republican party, he even mocked the looking of the view of his opponents for the presidency. Now things have escalated and the media is focusing as much as possible in the fact he is a felon now (assuming he losses his appeal). At this point one can feel the desperation of the Democrat party and the establishment behind CNN.

Though, I think it is still too early to call him a winner just because the attention he his getting. As I had already mentioned, within the Republican party there is people who do not like Trump and they would have preferred Nikki Haley to continue as the nominee, she could not do it and she did not endorse Trump.
It is up to them to decide.

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's interesting how aligned against Trump all media in the US keep being.

It didn't work when they were supporting Hillary? Why would it work now? Are they insane or something? All this panic mode makes me think Trump is the wisest bet at this point. He really seems laser focused now and doesn't want to make any mistakes. Probably Biden will keep making mistakes and sliding. No election promises can actually save him if he keeps acting like that though. It just seems reckless and an abuse of power at this point.

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Quote from: cabron on June 01, 2024, 01:06:11 PM

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Quote from: FanEagle on May 31, 2024, 03:20:53 PM

Well, this is definitely scary and that is the problem. People who would like to vote for Trump, do not care that he is a criminal, and that is a very scary thing, this dude is a convicted felon and he is willing to go to distance and still have a big chance to be the president.

Looks like the sentiment is on him as people just want someone to replace the old man with dementia, as they say.

Quote from: FanEagle on May 31, 2024, 03:20:53 PM

We have never seen an American president that was a convicted felon, to be fair considering what most of them did, they should have been, but they were not and that is a quite dangerous thing to put, because it opens up the doors that "if you can get elected, then you can do anything, even commit crimes, it all depends if you can still get the votes". Trump is the root cause, and what happens after him will be very very dangerous because of the road that he started for every other criminal.

The time has changed and its sad and scary. Especially in elections, you'll really never know what the people would like to vote even it takes them to vote for someone who has past bad records.

I'm not from there but it seems that he's being liked due to his past administration and with that, they're forgetting those records that he's got whether he's a convicted one or not.

Possible to happen in the future that the standards are getting lower in almost every parts of the world.

Seem like that already. I think people already realized that during that time of Trump, things were much cheaper.
The verdict that Trump is a convict is backfiring already, just a day after he was sentenced guilty, his team gathered more than $50M for his campaign. And it seems like he is still running for the presidency. If he is going to be a president while inside a cell, there is nothing that he can do still for the country.

And about global politics, it's different from today and with his tagline, we all knew about it. I think there is an immunity for being a president and that's why he'll go out from there. I didn't know that he's inside a cell, isn't he?

Quote from: cabron on June 01, 2024, 01:06:11 PM

Do you guys think the debate will still happen?

That will happen in any platform or forum that they are going to be involved with.

There is no other candidates that are in the par of them so, this is the battle for just the two of them, Biden and Trump.

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Quote from: alani123 on June 01, 2024, 06:59:17 PM

I see now media are trying to use Trump's conviction in the supposed hush money trial against him, even going as far as to use a poll where people where asked if they approve the conviction or not against him politically. Well, people might approve of the conviction and still vote for him, has anyone thought of that? There's tons of reasons to dislike Biden (I like doing genocide) Joe and using political donations wrongly isn't worse than the things he has done. So even if the conviction was based on such evidence I don't think people voting will care. If anything, it'll probably give Trump more leverage.

I have thought about it and mentioned it before, there are countries in other parts of the planet where their presidents where actually imprisoned in a former administration. It takes to look at N. Mandela in South Africa and Chavez in Venezuela. They were both in prison and still climbed their way up to power and the head of their states.
CNN is not the most reliable source of information, I am even very cautious when I see news for them (some of their news are at the same level or political propaganda than Fox, but in the opposite political spectrum), they will try to convince themselves and their viewers this conviction is the end of the political career of Donald Trump, they believe the American public would never cross the line and vote for a candidate who is a convicted felon. However they are underestimating the devotion of the MAGA faction.
This election will be decided by moderate republicans and on whether they decide to give Trump a pass on this conviction or not .

The odds in the casinos still point to Trump as having a very good chance to pocket a victory this next November. At this pace, I am afraid I'll end up betting a week before the election... When comes to make money, I am pretty much undecided yet.

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I do not see "trump" himself as the trouble, to be fair how bad could he make the country in four years? We have seen him rule it for four years, and aside from the judge appointments which takes up a lot of effort to change after him, we could easily say that nothing else major changed.

Things like roe v wade type of stuff are all judge appointments, and as long as you look at other stuff, he didn't do much. Hell if I have to congratulate him for one thing, which is that USA is a nation of war, and rarely stops, because if they stop, then why are they spending a trillion dollars on military, and military will not let you stop. However, what I see as issue is still the same, this opens up the doors for any criminal to be a president in the future, as long as they can get the votes, that's terrifying.

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I see now media are trying to use Trump's conviction in the supposed hush money trial against him, even going as far as to use a poll where people where asked if they approve the conviction or not against him politically. Well, people might approve of the conviction and still vote for him, has anyone thought of that? There's tons of reasons to dislike Biden (I like doing genocide) Joe and using political donations wrongly isn't worse than the things he has done. So even if the conviction was based on such evidence I don't think people voting will care. If anything, it'll probably give Trump more leverage.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 01, 2024, 12:57:57 PM

Quote from: FanEagle on May 31, 2024, 03:20:53 PM

Well, this is definitely scary and that is the problem. People who would like to vote for Trump, do not care that he is a criminal, and that is a very scary thing, this dude is a convicted felon and he is willing to go to distance and still have a big chance to be the president.

Looks like the sentiment is on him as people just want someone to replace the old man with dementia, as they say.

Quote from: FanEagle on May 31, 2024, 03:20:53 PM

We have never seen an American president that was a convicted felon, to be fair considering what most of them did, they should have been, but they were not and that is a quite dangerous thing to put, because it opens up the doors that "if you can get elected, then you can do anything, even commit crimes, it all depends if you can still get the votes". Trump is the root cause, and what happens after him will be very very dangerous because of the road that he started for every other criminal.

The time has changed and its sad and scary. Especially in elections, you'll really never know what the people would like to vote even it takes them to vote for someone who has past bad records.

I'm not from there but it seems that he's being liked due to his past administration and with that, they're forgetting those records that he's got whether he's a convicted one or not.

Possible to happen in the future that the standards are getting lower in almost every parts of the world.

Seem like that already. I think people already realized that during that time of Trump, things were much cheaper.
The verdict that Trump is a convict is backfiring already, just a day after he was sentenced guilty, his team gathered more than $50M for his campaign. And it seems like he is still running for the presidency. If he is going to be a president while inside a cell, there is nothing that he can do still for the country.

Do you guys think the debate will still happen?

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Quote from: FanEagle on May 31, 2024, 03:20:53 PM

Well, this is definitely scary and that is the problem. People who would like to vote for Trump, do not care that he is a criminal, and that is a very scary thing, this dude is a convicted felon and he is willing to go to distance and still have a big chance to be the president.

Looks like the sentiment is on him as people just want someone to replace the old man with dementia, as they say.

Quote from: FanEagle on May 31, 2024, 03:20:53 PM

We have never seen an American president that was a convicted felon, to be fair considering what most of them did, they should have been, but they were not and that is a quite dangerous thing to put, because it opens up the doors that "if you can get elected, then you can do anything, even commit crimes, it all depends if you can still get the votes". Trump is the root cause, and what happens after him will be very very dangerous because of the road that he started for every other criminal.

The time has changed and its sad and scary. Especially in elections, you'll really never know what the people would like to vote even it takes them to vote for someone who has past bad records.

I'm not from there but it seems that he's being liked due to his past administration and with that, they're forgetting those records that he's got whether he's a convicted one or not.

Possible to happen in the future that the standards are getting lower in almost every parts of the world.

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Quote from: FanEagle on May 31, 2024, 03:20:53 PM

Well, this is definitely scary and that is the problem. People who would like to vote for Trump, do not care that he is a criminal, and that is a very scary thing, this dude is a convicted felon and he is willing to go to distance and still have a big chance to be the president.

We have never seen an American president that was a convicted felon, to be fair considering what most of them did, they should have been, but they were not and that is a quite dangerous thing to put, because it opens up the doors that "if you can get elected, then you can do anything, even commit crimes, it all depends if you can still get the votes". Trump is the root cause, and what happens after him will be very very dangerous because of the road that he started for every other criminal.

Yes. It is quite scary. But this is how thing are now, people from a decade ago would never considered to vote for a president who was being indicted of a crime, let alone being found guilty in a criminal case and being tagged a felon. Ironically, has Trump is a felon it means he loses his rights to bear weapons, the same weapons he happens to defend ao much as a way of life, within the Republican party.
He would be a president who is pro guns, who is not allowed by law to own a gun by myself.
And I also agree with you, the precedent Trump is going to leave behing as gmhis legacy is going to be serious, the is lowering the bar as much as one could imagine when comes to who is elegible for the presidency of the country. At this pace, we could have convicted murderers running for president in the future and having a fair chance of winning.

anyways, this is a thread about betting on him or not, as it stands for now, It is quite possible to pocket a buck on Trumps possible victory.

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Quote from: FanEagle on May 31, 2024, 03:20:53 PM

Well, this is definitely scary and that is the problem. People who would like to vote for Trump, do not care that he is a criminal, and that is a very scary thing, this dude is a convicted felon and he is willing to go to distance and still have a big chance to be the president.

We have never seen an American president that was a convicted felon, to be fair considering what most of them did, they should have been, but they were not and that is a quite dangerous thing to put, because it opens up the doors that "if you can get elected, then you can do anything, even commit crimes, it all depends if you can still get the votes". Trump is the root cause, and what happens after him will be very very dangerous because of the road that he started for every other criminal.

I absolutely hate Donald Trump, with a passion ( I hate Biden too, just not quite as much), but I fear he's still got a very good chance of winning the election. The felony conviction will be over ruled by a higher court, and at most he'll get a fine and a slap on the wrist.

I wonder how much the odd's have gone down since he was convicted guilty on all accounts in his latest trial ( I can't keep track of them all).

One bet that's a sure bet, all Governments suck and are corrupt as all hell. So sad.

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Well, this is definitely scary and that is the problem. People who would like to vote for Trump, do not care that he is a criminal, and that is a very scary thing, this dude is a convicted felon and he is willing to go to distance and still have a big chance to be the president.

We have never seen an American president that was a convicted felon, to be fair considering what most of them did, they should have been, but they were not and that is a quite dangerous thing to put, because it opens up the doors that "if you can get elected, then you can do anything, even commit crimes, it all depends if you can still get the votes". Trump is the root cause, and what happens after him will be very very dangerous because of the road that he started for every other criminal.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 11, 2024, 07:53:17 AM

I am surprised that Donald Trump odd is lower than Joe Biden odd. Joe Biden is the present US president. I am not good in this type of betting and I will not just bet it. If I should take someone to win, Joe Biden. If I should wish someone to win, I will take Donald Trump. But I am not going for anyone than to stick with my football and casino games.

Exactly bud, exactly, and it feels like you took the words off my mind, for this was exactly what I was thinking while reading the op.
I am not a political person and as such, matters concerning politics usually is non of my business, but all the same, and for the sake of this discussion, it's exactly as you have said it for me as well, I personally wish that Trump wins, I am not a US citizen and does not live in the US, but I do have some friends from the US and they are like complaining about Joe Biden's policies and tagging his government and rulership as a bad one, they want Donald Trump back as their president, and if anything, I wish they get their heart desires meet.

But then, from personally experiences with such presidential elections, it's always kind of hard for an incumbent president to be defeated in an election, though I don't know how the US electoral system is or was designed, but at least, this is how it is in my country.

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Quote from: dansus021 on May 31, 2024, 10:02:44 AM

2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets! Trump wins again, and Biden loses I believe this way Im not from the United States but the US president election is crucial to the world since US has biggest economy right now so the any president can direct the economy, war and etc.

When biden get elected so many wars is happening and geopolitics is boiling hot and when trump takes the seat trump only hate china because he doesn't want china to be number one in my opinion

I think you went to far with your assumption but it's really hard to predict who will win especially with Trump having legal problems so even if he wins , he cannot pardon himself from jail as far as I know ( in case he goes to jail ).

I don't think the war from ukraine or what is currently going on in Israel and Gaza has something to do with Biden but as always USA has a very big influence across the world but saying that Biden is a war guy is kinda too much. I would say that Obama and Bush were true war presidents but things were so much simple back then and it's really hard to compare those times with the current times we are living.

The best option is to simply skip the USA election and just watch them because each party will say to the other one that elections are rigged...

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Quote from: dansus021 on May 31, 2024, 10:02:44 AM

2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets! Trump wins again, and Biden loses I believe this way Im not from the United States but the US president election is crucial to the world since US has biggest economy right now so the any president can direct the economy, war and etc.

When biden get elected so many wars is happening and geopolitics is boiling hot and when trump takes the seat trump only hate china because he doesn't want china to be number one in my opinion

That is a very shallow analysis on the current and possible future of the politics in the United States, to be honest. The presidential period of Donald Trump was not only about everything going fine and having economical turmoils with China. there was more things going on which further erode the world peace. For example, The United States broke the nuclear agreement they had with Iran, in spite Iran was actually following the deal and not developing their nuclear program even further, because of Trump now Iran has free political/international path towards further nuclear development.
Also, you have to conside the strange pattern Trump has when comes to praising dictators and regimes around the world, while at the same time saying the USA (one of the freest) countries in the hemisphere is bad and a nest of corruption .

There both good things and bad things about Biden and Trump, but if you analysis is that simple, I would personally advice you to read and sereach further into politics before putting money onto the table and bet for Trump

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Quote from: dansus021 on May 31, 2024, 10:02:44 AM

2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets! Trump wins again, and Biden loses I believe this way Im not from the United States but the US president election is crucial to the world since US has biggest economy right now so the any president can direct the economy, war and etc.

When biden get elected so many wars is happening and geopolitics is boiling hot and when trump takes the seat trump only hate china because he doesn't want china to be number one in my opinion

Did you remember last five years ago Donald Trump loss from Joe Biden on president election? but has interested vision and mission from Donald Trump how to stop world war exactly what happening for Palestine recently.
No debate during Joe Biden become United State president last five years ago world is not secure behind many country get war invasion until few months left before his position as United President over.

Indeed many controversial of Donald Trump bet for him because give positive impact for the world, when became United President Donald Trump success reduce war issues and almost reach positive relationship with Iran.

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2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets! Trump wins again, and Biden loses I believe this way Im not from the United States but the US president election is crucial to the world since US has biggest economy right now so the any president can direct the economy, war and etc.

When biden get elected so many wars is happening and geopolitics is boiling hot and when trump takes the seat trump only hate china because he doesn't want china to be number one in my opinion

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 30, 2024, 11:41:10 PM

@Hispo. I reckon both of these candidates will be hyped by their followers and there certainly be Republican followers and Democrat followers in the cryptospace that will pump the memecoins that represent their candidate hehe. On November I speculate these memecoins might be more than 3x than their present price. Holding Boden or Tremp will certainly give you more profit than betting for Biden or Trump in sportsbooks.

Ha. It is funny you do such a comparison because with it you are kind of admitting the presidential candidates of the United States and the American politics itself has become something like a meme. They are now at the same level of speculation like the bastard children of Dogecoin: Shiba Inu, Bonk, ElonDoge or whatever.
Don't you think is that kind of sad for a place is which supposed to be the light tower and beacon of Democracy on the planet? I think a bit like that.
Anyways, regardless it is true one can pocket some money from memecoins associated with these two political clowns (memes), still I would not dare to put my money in a memecoin created by God knows who, casinos with betting features/sections are more reliable and you know that one's the match/election is settled, you get your money. Those tokens till continue to exist beyond the election, then what?

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Quote from: FanEagle on May 31, 2024, 02:00:26 AM

I do not think that debates will have that much power, USA as a nation is already very divided, which means that the worst case for any candidate would be that they would make their own voters fail to turn out, but nobody will lose voters to other side.

Right now, anyone who would like to vote Trump would ever consider voting for Biden, no matter what happens at the debates, you could only assume they may not go out to vote but there is ZERO chance they would vote for Biden. Same goes for someone who would vote Biden, it's impossible to make them vote for Trump, no matter what happens, Biden could drop Nuke somewhere on the nation itself, and they would still just not vote for Biden, but not go out and vote for Trump. Everyone already made their decision.

But it's the same with those who've voted for Biden and then they see the result of the administration, they will jump to the other side because they didn't see the changes that they wanted to see and the changes that they were promised. At the election day, it will all become clear and I think that what you're saying, it's never going to really happen, I mean that's my speculation. My bet will be on Biden though, I think that the foothold that he's got established during his presidency is enough time to make it so they can secure a second term by any means necessary.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 31, 2024, 01:30:41 AM

It might be the beginning of Trump's political failure, however, it is also mentioned that he can still run for the presidency. The US constitution allows a person to campaign and also to be elected if he is indicted or in prison. This does not stop Trump's candidacy.

On Trump's ratings, it might go down but the voters might be also thinking about the money the Democrats are overspending on Ukraine and Israel, the problems on the Southern border and Inflation. The Democrats might also be making Trump as something similar to a martyr if he is imprisoned.

There are a lot of US voters who hate both Biden and Trump in equal terms. What Democrats are doing here is that they are making Trump as a martyr. And this may swing votes from a number of independent voters. Those who are planning to vote for Robert F. Kennedy Jr, may tempted to vote for Trump instead. I would say this - "any sort of publicity is good for Trump". As long as he remains in the media, it is going to be a straight fight between him and Biden, with others nowhere in picture.

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I do not think that debates will have that much power, USA as a nation is already very divided, which means that the worst case for any candidate would be that they would make their own voters fail to turn out, but nobody will lose voters to other side.

Right now, anyone who would like to vote Trump would ever consider voting for Biden, no matter what happens at the debates, you could only assume they may not go out to vote but there is ZERO chance they would vote for Biden. Same goes for someone who would vote Biden, it's impossible to make them vote for Trump, no matter what happens, Biden could drop Nuke somewhere on the nation itself, and they would still just not vote for Biden, but not go out and vote for Trump. Everyone already made their decision.

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